Hearing how Josh Powell used to treat his ex girlfriends sounds exactly like my ex. I was with this person for over 10 yrs, and it ended with me in the hospital. I then heard and read about Susan’s story. She saved me from going back to this horrible person. My heart is broken about what happened to her and her beautiful baby boys, but I owe her my life. I was actually going to go back to this person-but I didn’t because of her story. I left EVERYTHING I owned behind and wasn’t able to bring my child at first because I moved back in with my parents very far away. But Susan SAVED me. Her story convinced me to NEVER GO BACK. Out of this horrible tragedy birthed a brand new beautiful life for me, and I’m sure many others, free from the abuse. I’m free now!! I think about her and the boys all the time. Thank you Susan for inspiring me to be free from my prison. God bless you and your babies.
Knowing that there are people out there who summoned up the strength and courage to leave an abusive relationship because of this tragedy gives the senseless deaths of Susan, Charlie, and Braden real meaning and I hope that their family and friends can take comfort with that knowledge.
Darla McKenna Susan’s story, and those of many others, helped me to finally leave, too. I read nothing but books about domestic violence murders until I finally got the courage to leave.
I have a similar story which ended with me in the hospital with staples in my head. Always remember YOU saved YOU!! YOU had the courage and you were strong!! Give yourself credit !! Someone else failed you and YOU chose to save your life! Never forget how strong you are! Xoxo
Thank you COLD for providing these videos. I grew up knowing Susan at church and at school. I am still in shock of all the things that happened to her and her boys even years later. I wanted to thank you for providing these episodes First of all: So that we can see that Susan was an amazing women that was being mistreated over and over and yet she always had hope. What a strong person. It is very unfortunate that her strong will and beautiful personality was wasted on someone so selfish and unemotional. She could have had a great life if she could have been with someone that cared for her. Second of all. For you to take the time at the end of the episode to acknowledge if someone is living like this that they should get help. That is huge. I hope other women or men in this type of relationship will see it and realize what is happening and get out as soon as they can. RIP Susan, Charlie and Braden.
@Andro mache Then how do you explain the people of this world who go through all that and then decide NOT to treat their OWN FAMILIES...their wives and children ...in the same Godawful way that they were treated growing up. The true hypocrisy was that Josh himself was a COWARD and the lowest of the low...he was a sociopath in the making his whole life who was ruled by the ultimate of psychopaths, his father, and actually, although there are many, he is/was in the minority, thank God.
@Liza Tanzawa Yes, I would say that actually they are and "uncaring' is the right word. I write books about narcissism in relationships and the one variable that always seems to exist in a narc's story is a mother who was cold and narcissistic. It's not even about physical abuse although that often plays a part. It rarely is the father because as we know, although it is difficult, children can grow up just fine in a household with a mother who is single.
@BrittaOlson He says he’s better than most of the people he knows yet he hacks on his two little boys and blows up the house to kill them too!!? Josh must not know but a handful of people if he’s “better” than them. 🤦🏼♀️
1. Wife is missing 2.Husband does not show to work 3.Husband does not answer phone calls and does not respond to voice messages 3. Radio ON at loud volume while no one at home 4. Fans blowing which appear to be directed at couch 5. Wife belongings FOUND AT HOME 6. Husband not in a hurry to get back home after talking to a cop 7. Husband shows up WITH wife's phone and No SIM card 8. Husband's phone fully charged w/ charger inside van... dear and illustrious detectives....GET A FRIGGING SEARCH WARRANT and seize the van and gain full access to the home! and quite possibly... case solved as the husband cracks under pressure! But no, police gave him a an early Christmas gift allowing him to go back home and clean up his home and his van! Then days and days to dispose of evidence...This Police dept. and the Boulder Police Dept. should really team up and work on a Netflix documentary on how to really mess up a case!
A M Exactly Without a doubt Josh (FOR SURE) - and, likely, his father - were fully responsible for the murder of Susan Powell but AFTER THAT, the police department and social services should have been held fully accountable and responsible for the death of those boys.
I've noticed a very disturbing pattern when law enforcement agencies make such egregious errors with cases like this. I hesitate to mention it because it seems to crazy, not to mention none of us want to believe such a thing goes on in today's society. There is a luciferian network that exists, functions and hides within the same system of the rest of society. It includes police, judges, religious leaders, healthcare system, all levels of govt, entertainment, education, social services and on and on. They engage in the most evil deeds unimaginable to the human mind. When you see a person, such as Josh's father seemingly receive deferential treatment, as described by his daughter when discussing the judge's dismissive attitude towards allegations made against him, it is highly indicative of an occult network. No, the judge isn't the only sign. I recognized several as I listened to this first episode. There def seems to be something more sinister at play here.
Josh Powell chose a life of evil. His life turned into Darkness and Death. He resented the light inside of Susan. Every child deserves a happy productive home.
First 20 minutes and already impressed with the details I had not heard before about the case. Thank you for sharing this story and I look forward to more parts! Came from Stephanie Harlowe's channel and a new subscriber.
Stephanie Harlow, Kendall Rae, Bailey Sarian - they’re all cringe. Their true crime vids are always poorly researched, filled with material errors, and redundant.
So basically, Susan stayed with Josh for so long, and endured his bullshit, as well as his father's bullshit, because she was hopeful he would turn back into the guy she first fell in love with.... but... he was NEVER that guy!?! The guy she fell in love with was always just a possessive, controlling, narcissistic asshole, she just caught him when he was going through one of the religious/good guy phases that he retreated back to whenever he'd experience a setback or problem that he felt was significant enough to warrant it. That's incredibly sad. It's also a cautionary tale: to make sure you know WHO you're saying "I do" to.
Basically, yes ,where's this guy I fell in love with. He's here somewhere...so will hope and wait for him. Real deal...he never existed in the first place! It's all illusions and manipulation. They put on what facade they choose...but the truth is so different. They choose how they want ppl to perceive them...the good,nice guy...don't believe a word. Trouble is,if u r also only shown that, even if you take relationship slow...and think,by now there would have been a red flag, so he is actually a nice ,genuine guy. Once ur in, it's not as simple as ppl realise to get out...and can be getting out alive is even more difficult. It's like,someone's strapped a bomb to your leg, you never know when it's gonna go off....if leave likelihood is that bomb never quite gets dislodged, u realise it's attached and is following you. Takes a lot more then leaving to in end get them totally outta your life. Even, then u'll still at the odd occasion look over ur shoulder...just in case. But, once gone, you can breath and find yourself again...look bk and think wth & hth...did I ever get into that. But, don't let them stop u living ur life, once finally free....don't let them still affect ur life by the fear they leave...it then makes them powerless. And you can finally see the real picture..they are just a pathetic, imitation of a person.
After watching HeavyDSparks I started looking more into this case I haven't herd of you before but may unknowingly listened to your podcast thank you for following this case Susan needs to be brought home and with you and everyone who has interest in this case I pray this is possible I send love and good vibes to you HeavyDSparks Susan her family and everyone pushing and driving all that can be done to bring her home. Those babies and her parents friends and family deserve this if Josh is willing and knowing take the lives of his kids he had to have taken their mother from those babies, those babies knew to much and started to feel safe enough to remember what happened those babies never should have had to be exposed to their father they should have herd the concerns of those who truly loved then
There are a lot of what ifs in this story. Should've, would've, could've from most of the adults would have changed the outcome. That is the most infuriated thing about all of it.
He has such a fractured core. There is a tipping point for josh. On one side he realizes that he needs help in connecting with others. On the other side it’s the people around him who don’t understand him. Once it tipped one way he never went back to the other. This is the 3 rd time I’ve listen to this. As fascinated as I am by the case .... I am so sad Susan is not here. She isn’t just an object or character in a story. We didn’t forget you.
I am listening to this all over again as this Podcast had so many little details that the mainstream media never reported. I sincerely hope to hear from Dave C. in another Podcast soon.
You put in an incredible amount of work on this project, and it shows. Very impressive. Thank you for creating this masterpiece. I feel so badly for Susan and her baby boys.
I'm so excited to watch all of these. You are the only person deep diving into this case, thank you!!!! I have missed a lot. Time to dig in deep. I'm fully invested. Also, I'm positive her body is out in the area of Vernal.
This is amazing! How does this not have more views? I have always thought that Utah was a very peaceful place, with the abundance of LDS members, so this has really opened my eyes. It is cool to hear about stuff that I has happened in places that I am familiar with.
West Valley is probably one of the worst places in Utah. I have lived in Ogden my whole life and you could not pay me to live in the Salt Lake City or surrounding areas. A majority of the Mormons are the biggest hypocrites you will ever meet. Every one I dated thought i was a punching bag.
Mormonism is a cult. Any fundamentalist religion is totally messed up and the people get messed up mentally from it. Stuff like this is rampant in these types of religions.
Wish I could have known Susan. She was adorable and my heart hurts for her and those babies. They are with each other and God has them now. I love her and never even met her. It's okay to have love for others this way. We are all connected in the end loves.
Steve was straight evil and had the worst sex addiction I’ve ever seen. I mean *nothing* was off limits to him when it came to girls and women. Jennifer never mentioned in her book that her father had these feelings for her, but hearing this now it doesn’t surprise me.
Nobody mentions and questions about sex abuse.Father with sick port addiction might have abused boys too.Like Stockholm Syndrome.I feel.deeply sorry for Susan and boys just gone to death due to negligence of 911 dispatcher.Heartbreaking
Your channel was recommended by Stephanie Harlowe. She is my favorite channel and she gave you raving reviews. I can see why now that I have listen to some of your videos.
You know in a lot of ways I blame Josh's dad and grandparents for the tragedies and the evil person he became. I dont think he was ever loved and knew it. Not to mention the abuse. Not excusing Josh though.
I don't excuse him but his path was set by his own father. It was a mirror of exactly how his own parents dysfunctional violent abusive marriage was and he learned it oh so well.😱🤔🤢
It’s true Josh’s behavior was greatly influenced by his dad’s corrupt ways. His mother did try but by then it was too late. Pity they didn’t have child services called on Steve, he was horriable
What Steve did to his sons is called parental alienation. PA causes terrible mental illnesses in the children. Many grow up to have narcissistic personality disorder or worse. Josh was obviously turned out having worse than having NPD. Considering that he killed his sister's pet he probably had antisocial personality disorder, which is pathological. Sad. Let's change how we deal with parental alienation. It also sounds like Steve was raised with PA, which makes sense since PA is usually a learned behavior. In this case PA made a murderer 😥
I learned about this case from HeavyD’s channel. I hope they find Susan’s remains so her family can have closure. The Police dropped the ball on this one but I understand why. Without a body it’s very difficult to win.
I'm also here bc of HeavyD, his excavating that mine shaft looking for Susan. COLD Podcast, what an intricate series of details you've compiled and share...wow props.
This is my second time with this story on this podcast. I have to admit, that although I was fascinated the first time. .. I didn't actually have the full appreciation that I do now for the amazing work that COLD has accomplished with this exceptional piece of work. On the average scale of 1 thru 10 its definitely 100 plus. There is nothing average about the research, prep, interviews, content, presentation or delivery when it comes to this chanel. Seriously they should set the new standard since everything else just does NOT MEASURE UP, not even close! Love the work you guys do. Keep it up!
Why am I just finding this podcast? I have followed this case from the start and this is the best info I have heard on this heartbreaking case. I am just 25 mins into the first episode and definitely going to lose some sleep binging on this podcast tonight. Are their any other subjects on Cold Podcast beside the Powell case?
Had she been my daughter, Josh, his father and brother would have experienced the most prolonged pain until I got a confession. South Boston style. That’s how we handled these types of things in the city.
The clip of Josh’s audio diary or whatever it is at the beginning of the podcast is strange and alarming. Did the ex he is talking about die? The way he talks about her sounds like she is no longer alive. What did he mean about her brother making him happier than he had ever been? Was he having a relationship with her brother? Did they become friends? I have so many questions.
I found out about your podcast from Stephanie Harlowe. I wanted to know more about the Powell case and she encouraged us to go to your channel. I started listening to you last night. I love the way the facts are presented and how each podcast is put together with background music, voice actors as well as actual clips of audio, and the narrating of events. I subscribed. There aren't many true crime channels I follow and, the ones that I do are able to present cases in a way that are gentle and don't add to the heaviness of the cases I learn about. Thanks for uploading!
I hope so, she took this man's work and read it word for word!!! She didn't leave it all in but the main 90% of her video wasn't her own. Terrible, no wonder she credited him before the comments came in that she had all his content!!!
@@indigoblue4791 shes gross. I refuse to watch her. She complained saying that another creator Danielle Hallan copied her and stole her cases. Eye roll. Shes unoriginal and there are so many other better true crime youtubers out there like Lordan arts
@@pinkpugginz I couldn't believe it when l heard the original work. She hadn't bothered to change the order it was given, she hadn't used his work to then base her own on it. Oh no she didn't say it in her own words, hers is the very same as the original. It's absolutely disgusting to be passing it off as her own work. She should be called out but she won't of course and is ignorant enough to take no notice if she was. Sad!!
@April Yes!!! I was searching my brain to figure out who I had heard before talk like Josh and it is Warren Jeffs! Crazy how they sound alike. Ewwwww!!
The similarities to this girl dating him shocks me because he is EXACTLY like my ex-husband who is from and still in Utah. I was a prisoner with him. Everything she said, I went through. But I was actually kept in a room, I had to escape, I did. I've learned a lot since.
Can we all relish in the fact that Josh tried to publish Susan’s journals and now his journals are online for all to hear for the rest of time? Same with Steve’s journals. We should publish them in their entirety for all to read.
If it wasn’t for Church Josh would of never had a chance with someone as great as Susan, but the women are told to match with fellow believers and church members and think that what they are doing is right, it’s awful to see all the snakes that face been able to marry good women.
I just wanna take a moment to talk to every beautiful women who's reading this .. 🌸 U are a very unique and precious creation , u deserve happiness , care , and all the Joy of the universe please i just want u to be careful while loving or choosing someone to be one for u take ur time don't be deceived by his appearance, his beautiful way of speaking, or his treatment at the beginning, bcz all the beginnings are beautiful! Marry someone who respects u ،protects u not a beast that devours u! Make the family u deserve with who deserves! there are many Joshes in this world So please sweety don't be another susan 🥺 this poor wonderful woman who fell victim to a man devoid of humanity, A devil who ruined her and her two baby angles #RIP 😭🙏🏻
Rozadolce that was beautifully said. I absolutely agree with you. I was terribly abused as a child until I was out on my own. My first bf was very abusive also. I realized I was choosing men based on what I was used to as a child. It’s odd and I still don’t understand it but I am 49 now and I eventually stopped dating altogether. I don’t trust any man. I hope you are doing good in your life and have a wonderful partner. It’s lonely being alone.
@@stephanieann8115 oh i'm sorry for that ! that's hard i feel u but choosing yourself and ur inner peace is the best thing u did! What's gone is gone ur still young , ur soul is still fresh it's never too late to find the right person & age is only a number! don't feel lonely enjoy every moment of ur life with the family and friends , work on urself for urself ! dress well & laugh ! i'm sure u'll meet that beautiful soul one day that will love u truly and take a good care of u 🤍 and aww thanks sweety i'm doing well in my life and i've already found the right one for me i'm just waiting for a miracle to happen so we'll be together pray for us 🙏🏻
OMG I was thinking that the whole time and came to the comments to see if anyone else felt the same about Josh's voice being very similar to Warren Jeffs. So creepy!
You can hear how off Josh sounds in his voice. There's this sense of detachment along with a creepy, breathy inflection. Almost like he's daydreaming out loud but with an unsettling lilt. 🚩🚩🚩
I'm sorry but I have to say it... How stupid do you have to be to give all of your money to your boyfriend, and then get a student loan and sign the cheque for him to put in his account... and then after never seeing that money, continue signing the cheques for him every time they come?
That’s how narcissists work, they reel you in, isolate you from your friends and family, then make you rely on them for everything. It’s a mind f*ck, and it takes a lot of courage to leave.
@@CapricornGirl9 You could not be more correct. You do not see it - at first, esp. if you've never encountered it in such an exaggerated manner. Some manipulators are VERY devious, by using more covert methods, which happened to me - he was more subtle than most manipulators - very clever.
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Hard to believe Josh had a background. He was troubled and screwed by his dad. I still feel like he didn’t have to follow the family dysfunction, what he did to his sons and wife was evil. He was a narcissist
Mooching, pulling off insurance scams via staging car accidents. He lost more jobs than most have in a normal lifespan. By the way Catherine is ny wife of 22.5 years. If I knew half of what I found out later(along with everyone else)about Josh during that quick Seattle trip to retrieve Catherine's things, I wouldve wasted his sorry ass right there and then
He sounds like mr. Rodger but creepy as fuck not soothing .. I might get hate for saying that but I swear that’s what his voice is reminding me of like he’s trying to come off as the nice guy but pushing nice beyond it’s limits just in voice. I don’t understand how the kids were left in his care just with that alone I wouldn’t trust his own kids left alone with him.
There used to be a commercial for some insurance company where a man was lying on a couch like he was in a therapists office. He was whining and said, "And that's why yellow makes me sad..." The therapist looks like a drill sargeant. He picked up a box of tissues and whipped it at the guy calling him some things. One was "jackwagon" and the other was "Namby-Pamby". I never knew what a jackwagon was, I have now found the person to fit that description. Sorry this is long, but I know someone, somewhere, has seen this commercial and will most likely be shooting pop out their nose as I did when I heard him speak. Have a great day!
How can any man well sorry ur not a man if u treat any woman like that my dad would hit my mum when I was a wee boy and of course I seen it one day a smashed an old milk bottle over his head a was only 10 am 42 now and I have never treated any woman like these 🤡's out their and yes not seen that thing it my dad in over 30 years my mum is better of with out him me to for my mum safety???So please to any woman going through this get away from these monsters how they hit u then aww am sorry a will never do it again I till nxt time get out of their asap???
Good for you for protecting your Mom. I’m sure that means the world to her. I seen a billboard that had a big bouquet of roses on it and it said “just waiting for the next I’M SORRY” Women Leave Now!! Then it had a telephone number for a crisis center. Isn’t that so true?! I could totally resonate with it, unfortunately.
I'm convinced him and his brother were molested by there father and that's why he struggled with women fast forward to Susan I believe everything with his dad and her hit a breaking point I think him and his father both played a part in this. When he was talking to his sister when she was wearing a wire he says I know what I have done and I haven't done anything....the way he says it is so telling. Like he didn't but he knows who did....his father
He was definitely molested as well as Michael. in the 1992 divorce record the mom was talking about how Steve was making Michael and Josh sleep in the bed with him.. Then Josh had Charlie and Braden sleep in the bed with him and they were all naked.
I am listening to the podcast for the 2nd time. Question: who is the man that Josh is talking about in his audio journal?? "You sent your brother to me and he filled me up. He replaced my broken heart with incredible joy." ??
He took her student loans, took her paychecks, REFUSED to let her go to her uncle's funeral... no matter ow much she TRIED to persuade him. Yeah, he was obviously a controlling & possessive piece of shit, buuut wtf was wrong with her?!? They weren't married, no kids, she had no ties to him. He wasn't even hitting her. Why did she LET him treat her like that? Why did she LET him steal thousands of dollars that she'd have to pay back. She would've had to go to his bank with him for that one, and she would've had to sign her paychecks every single time. This reminds me of that ''Surviving R Kelly docuseries, on Lifetime. A bunch of women that LET themselves be victimized, then sat there and complained about it, minimized their own responsibility & maximized his. And yes, in both cases, the men ARE dicks, but the women allowed their treatment of them. They absolutely allowed it. And in R Kelly's case, he had fetishized that dynamic, so I'm sure he thought they were into it to. While Josh's situation with his ex wasn't fetishized in that way, maybe he didn't realize how controlling he'd been, since she just allowed herself to be his doormat. Anyway, I'm glad she finally wised up & decided to not return to him. I'm just tired of women letting some dude rule their lives, then complaining about each and every example of that, as if they're the ultimate victim. I just don't have any sympathy for this chick.
Has anyone checked to make sure the guy josh father says Susan ran away with wasn’t killed by the Powell’s ? Trying to make a story to explain her missing?
Hearing how Josh Powell used to treat his ex girlfriends sounds exactly like my ex. I was with this person for over 10 yrs, and it ended with me in the hospital. I then heard and read about Susan’s story. She saved me from going back to this horrible person. My heart is broken about what happened to her and her beautiful baby boys, but I owe her my life. I was actually going to go back to this person-but I didn’t because of her story. I left EVERYTHING I owned behind and wasn’t able to bring my child at first because I moved back in with my parents very far away. But Susan SAVED me. Her story convinced me to NEVER GO BACK. Out of this horrible tragedy birthed a brand new beautiful life for me, and I’m sure many others, free from the abuse. I’m free now!! I think about her and the boys all the time. Thank you Susan for inspiring me to be free from my prison. God bless you and your babies.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Knowing that there are people out there who summoned up the strength and courage to leave an abusive relationship because of this tragedy gives the senseless deaths of Susan, Charlie, and Braden real meaning and I hope that their family and friends can take comfort with that knowledge.
Darla McKenna Susan’s story, and those of many others, helped me to finally leave, too. I read nothing but books about domestic violence murders until I finally got the courage to leave.
I have a similar story which ended with me in the hospital with staples in my head. Always remember YOU saved YOU!! YOU had the courage and you were strong!! Give yourself credit !! Someone else failed you and YOU chose to save your life! Never forget how strong you are! Xoxo
god bless.
Thank you COLD for providing these videos. I grew up knowing Susan at church and at school. I am still in shock of all the things that happened to her and her boys even years later. I wanted to thank you for providing these episodes
First of all: So that we can see that Susan was an amazing women that was being mistreated over and over and yet she always had hope. What a strong person. It is very unfortunate that her strong will and beautiful personality was wasted on someone so selfish and unemotional. She could have had a great life if she could have been with someone that cared for her.
Second of all. For you to take the time at the end of the episode to acknowledge if someone is living like this that they should get help. That is huge. I hope other women or men in this type of relationship will see it and realize what is happening and get out as soon as they can.
RIP Susan, Charlie and Braden.
May Susan and her children rest in peace, may they know true untouched peace together in the afterlife 🙏🏻
Diesel bros are doing a series right now! Going into that mine to hopefully find her! Go check it out
@@kochsdetailing OMG thank you for letting me know. I found the show you were talking about. It is wonderful to know that she has not been forgotten.
His voice is so creepy! Thank you for making this available on UA-cam
Google Account Sounds like his father😳
Creeper and Creeper Jr
“I’m better than most of the people I know. I’m not being conceited either. It’s just a fact.” (Josh Powell).
What a jerk!
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@Andro mache Then how do you explain the people of this world who go through all that and then decide NOT to treat their OWN FAMILIES...their wives and children ...in the same Godawful way that they were treated growing up. The true hypocrisy was that Josh himself was a COWARD and the lowest of the low...he was a sociopath in the making his whole life who was ruled by the ultimate of psychopaths, his father, and actually, although there are many, he is/was in the minority, thank God.
@Liza Tanzawa Yes, I would say that actually they are and "uncaring' is the right word. I write books about narcissism in relationships and the one variable that always seems to exist in a narc's story is a mother who was cold and narcissistic. It's not even about physical abuse although that often plays a part. It rarely is the father because as we know, although it is difficult, children can grow up just fine in a household with a mother who is single.
@BrittaOlson He says he’s better than most of the people he knows yet he hacks on his two little boys and blows up the house to kill them too!!?
Josh must not know but a handful of people if he’s “better” than them. 🤦🏼♀️
Another murderous incel made the same statement but I can't remember which. Maybe Elliot Rodgers
1. Wife is missing 2.Husband does not show to work 3.Husband does not answer phone calls and does not respond to voice messages 3. Radio ON at loud volume while no one at home 4. Fans blowing which appear to be directed at couch 5. Wife belongings FOUND AT HOME 6. Husband not in a hurry to get back home after talking to a cop 7. Husband shows up WITH wife's phone and No SIM card 8. Husband's phone fully charged w/ charger inside van... dear and illustrious detectives....GET A FRIGGING SEARCH WARRANT and seize the van and gain full access to the home! and quite possibly... case solved as the husband cracks under pressure! But no, police gave him a an early Christmas gift allowing him to go back home and clean up his home and his van! Then days and days to dispose of evidence...This Police dept. and the Boulder Police Dept. should really team up and work on a Netflix documentary on how to really mess up a case!
I couldn’t agree more
A M Exactly Without a doubt Josh (FOR SURE) - and, likely, his father - were fully responsible for the murder of Susan Powell but AFTER THAT, the police department and social services should have been held fully accountable and responsible for the death of those boys.
I've noticed a very disturbing pattern when law enforcement agencies make such egregious errors with cases like this.
I hesitate to mention it because it seems to crazy, not to mention none of us want to believe such a thing goes on in today's society.
There is a luciferian network that exists, functions and hides within the same system of the rest of society. It includes police, judges, religious leaders, healthcare system, all levels of govt, entertainment, education, social services and on and on. They engage in the most evil deeds unimaginable to the human mind.
When you see a person, such as Josh's father seemingly receive deferential treatment, as described by his daughter when discussing the judge's dismissive attitude towards allegations made against him, it is highly indicative of an occult network.
No, the judge isn't the only sign. I recognized several as I listened to this first episode. There def seems to be something more sinister at play here.
Weren't they somehow, his friends?
Just like chris watts..shanann purse at home
Can we take a minute and just think about Jennifer Graves? What a survivor you are!! 💕
I read Jennifer's book amazing.
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Josh Powell chose a life of evil. His life turned into Darkness and Death. He resented the light inside of Susan. Every child deserves a happy productive home.
You're exactly right! He resented her light.
Great insight! I agree.
First 20 minutes and already impressed with the details I had not heard before about the case. Thank you for sharing this story and I look forward to more parts! Came from Stephanie Harlowe's channel and a new subscriber.
InsaneCrazyZombieDeer , same!
I love stephanie! However, I came across this podcast thru profiling evil, they're relatively new and really good x
@@samwallaceofscotland I looked "cold" up because I'm watching ABC 20/20 profile special of the case
Stephanie Harlow, Kendall Rae, Bailey Sarian - they’re all cringe. Their true crime vids are always poorly researched, filled with material errors, and redundant.
So basically, Susan stayed with Josh for so long, and endured his bullshit, as well as his father's bullshit, because she was hopeful he would turn back into the guy she first fell in love with.... but... he was NEVER that guy!?!
The guy she fell in love with was always just a possessive, controlling, narcissistic asshole, she just caught him when he was going through one of the religious/good guy phases that he retreated back to whenever he'd experience a setback or problem that he felt was significant enough to warrant it. That's incredibly sad. It's also a cautionary tale: to make sure you know WHO you're saying "I do" to.
Nailed it.
Basically, yes ,where's this guy I fell in love with. He's here somewhere...so will hope and wait for him. Real deal...he never existed in the first place! It's all illusions and manipulation.
They put on what facade they choose...but the truth is so different.
They choose how they want ppl to perceive them...the good,nice guy...don't believe a word.
Trouble is,if u r also only shown that, even if you take relationship slow...and think,by now there would have been a red flag, so he is actually a nice ,genuine guy.
Once ur in, it's not as simple as ppl realise to get out...and can be getting out alive is even more difficult.
It's like,someone's strapped a bomb to your leg, you never know when it's gonna go off....if leave likelihood is that bomb never quite gets dislodged, u realise it's attached and is following you.
Takes a lot more then leaving to in end get them totally outta your life.
Even, then u'll still at the odd occasion look over ur shoulder...just in case.
But, once gone, you can breath and find yourself again...look bk and think wth & hth...did I ever get into that.
But, don't let them stop u living ur life, once finally free....don't let them still affect ur life by the fear they leave...it then makes them powerless. And you can finally see the real picture..they are just a pathetic, imitation of a person.
Boom
Josh’s voice gives me chills.
HotMessMama so is his sisters voice, the one that is brainwashed by her Dad, not the one that supported Susan
He sounded like a nerd
After watching HeavyDSparks and his team, I had to listen to this Podcast. Very Enlightening.
After watching HeavyDSparks I started looking more into this case I haven't herd of you before but may unknowingly listened to your podcast thank you for following this case Susan needs to be brought home and with you and everyone who has interest in this case I pray this is possible I send love and good vibes to you HeavyDSparks Susan her family and everyone pushing and driving all that can be done to bring her home. Those babies and her parents friends and family deserve this if Josh is willing and knowing take the lives of his kids he had to have taken their mother from those babies, those babies knew to much and started to feel safe enough to remember what happened those babies never should have had to be exposed to their father they should have herd the concerns of those who truly loved then
If only Josh's suicide attempt at age 14 had succeeded Susan would still be alive.
i think about it everytime
There are a lot of what ifs in this story. Should've, would've, could've from most of the adults would have changed the outcome. That is the most infuriated thing about all of it.
And the boys
Thinking along those lines, I wonder how many women, and people are a live today, because some successful suicides.
@@kari7403 Or a successful justice system eh?
When I listen to his voice I hear no emotion in it. Pure cold that makes chills in my spine.
I'm here from the Heavy D series. I'm less than half way through this episode and it's great!
Here because of Stephanie! New subscriber now, she’s just that good at knowing what we like!
Same here!!
He has such a fractured core. There is a tipping point for josh. On one side he realizes that he needs help in connecting with others. On the other side it’s the people around him who don’t understand him.
Once it tipped one way he never went back to the other.
This is the 3 rd time I’ve listen to this. As fascinated as I am by the case .... I am so sad Susan is not here. She isn’t just an object or character in a story. We didn’t forget you.
I am listening to this all over again as this Podcast had so many little details that the mainstream media never reported. I sincerely hope to hear from Dave C. in another Podcast soon.
Excellent podcast. Kudos, Dave!
You put in an incredible amount of work on this project, and it shows. Very impressive. Thank you for creating this masterpiece. I feel so badly for Susan and her baby boys.
I'm so excited to watch all of these. You are the only person deep diving into this case, thank you!!!! I have missed a lot. Time to dig in deep. I'm fully invested.
Also, I'm positive her body is out in the area of Vernal.
You deserve more likes. This is so well done.
This is amazing! How does this not have more views? I have always thought that Utah was a very peaceful place, with the abundance of LDS members, so this has really opened my eyes. It is cool to hear about stuff that I has happened in places that I am familiar with.
West Valley is probably one of the worst places in Utah. I have lived in Ogden my whole life and you could not pay me to live in the Salt Lake City or surrounding areas. A majority of the Mormons are the biggest hypocrites you will ever meet. Every one I dated thought i was a punching bag.
@@stacibrailsford8302 Seems like a lot of anger. Anger at the perfectionism required.
Mormonism is a cult. Any fundamentalist religion is totally messed up and the people get messed up mentally from it.
Stuff like this is rampant in these types of religions.
LDS cops are hesitant to arrest LDS members. A lot.
Wish I could have known Susan. She was adorable and my heart hurts for her and those babies. They are with each other and God has them now. I love her and never even met her. It's okay to have love for others this way. We are all connected in the end loves.
yes she is so sweet on every video
Best podcast heard so far. Well done
He turned into his father.
Steve was straight evil and had the worst sex addiction I’ve ever seen. I mean *nothing* was off limits to him when it came to girls and women. Jennifer never mentioned in her book that her father had these feelings for her, but hearing this now it doesn’t surprise me.
Emi Sumida. I just read it and thought the exact same thing maybe its still to raw for her to talk about.
Nobody mentions and questions about sex abuse.Father with sick port addiction might have abused boys too.Like Stockholm Syndrome.I feel.deeply sorry for Susan and boys just gone to death due to negligence of 911 dispatcher.Heartbreaking
@@elizabethgray5624 it’s probably hard for her to come to grips with. Her very own father was into her.
@@ayselondon3754 josh and his older brother sexually abused Alina when she was 4 years old. SA was rife in the family
Omg this is Gold, had it not been for Profiling Evil, I'm not sure if i wld have found this chqnnel, tysm omg cant wait to dive deep , ty
This is so well put together! Well done!! Love listening! 😊
Your channel was recommended by Stephanie Harlowe. She is my favorite channel and she gave you raving reviews. I can see why now that I have listen to some of your videos.
Can’t believe I haven’t found this before! The work you put into it is amazing👍🏼. Great job! Can’t wait to hear the next one!
I can NOT believe this only has 49k views. Great info and great story telling from a narcissistic abuse survivor 🥰
You know in a lot of ways I blame Josh's dad and grandparents for the tragedies and the evil person he became. I dont think he was ever loved and knew it. Not to mention the abuse. Not excusing Josh though.
yes typical narcissistic disorder
I don't excuse him but his path was set by his own father. It was a mirror of exactly how his own parents dysfunctional violent abusive marriage was and he learned it oh so well.😱🤔🤢
It’s true Josh’s behavior was greatly influenced by his dad’s corrupt ways. His mother did try but by then it was too late. Pity they didn’t have child services called on Steve, he was horriable
What Steve did to his sons is called parental alienation. PA causes terrible mental illnesses in the children. Many grow up to have narcissistic personality disorder or worse. Josh was obviously turned out having worse than having NPD. Considering that he killed his sister's pet he probably had antisocial personality disorder, which is pathological. Sad. Let's change how we deal with parental alienation. It also sounds like Steve was raised with PA, which makes sense since PA is usually a learned behavior. In this case PA made a murderer 😥
You've just described the majority of killers. Seriously?
You have HeavyD and the entire DPG on the case now let's hope he gets closure for everyone involved!!!!
I never realized how interesting this was until I saw it on his channel. Now I can't get enough of it, there's so much information to be learned.
I learned about this case from HeavyD’s channel. I hope they find Susan’s remains so her family can have closure. The Police dropped the ball on this one but I understand why. Without a body it’s very difficult to win.
I'm also here bc of HeavyD, his excavating that mine shaft looking for Susan. COLD Podcast, what an intricate series of details you've compiled and share...wow props.
This is my second time with this story on this podcast. I have to admit, that although I was fascinated the first time. .. I didn't actually have the full appreciation that I do now for the amazing work that COLD has accomplished with this exceptional piece of work. On the average scale of 1 thru 10 its definitely 100 plus. There is nothing average about the research, prep, interviews, content, presentation or delivery when it comes to this chanel. Seriously they should set the new standard since everything else just does NOT MEASURE UP, not even close! Love the work you guys do. Keep it up!
Ditto plus
I couldn't agree more Jenna, it's also my second time listening to the whole series.
Why am I just finding this podcast? I have followed this case from the start and this is the best info I have heard on this heartbreaking case. I am just 25 mins into the first episode and definitely going to lose some sleep binging on this podcast tonight. Are their any other subjects on Cold Podcast beside the Powell case?
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Came over from the fabulous Stephanie Harlows channel . Subscribed to this.
Had she been my daughter, Josh, his father and brother would have experienced the most prolonged pain until I got a confession. South Boston style. That’s how we handled these types of things in the city.
I LOVE this! I’m moving(across several states) in May. Texas is my first choice but you are making me reconsider🤣
Great job! Very interesting and helpful to people experiencing the same situation.
Monica Rust Yes, it is. Susan’s story helped me get the courage to leave my husband.
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I’ve just subscribed! Very cool channel! Impressive research and interesting facts!! On to part 2
My 1st "subscribed" - an impressive, engaging & comprehensive product. Compliments to all involved. Powell Family extremely sad & unsettling.
Wow the detail. Thank you
HeavyDSparks sent me!
He’s so creepy man.
The clip of Josh’s audio diary or whatever it is at the beginning of the podcast is strange and alarming. Did the ex he is talking about die? The way he talks about her sounds like she is no longer alive. What did he mean about her brother making him happier than he had ever been? Was he having a relationship with her brother? Did they become friends? I have so many questions.
I’m so confused, what was he implying???
Same here!! I thought I had missed something and was going to go back and listen again🤣 but apparently I’m not the only one that is confused 🤔
he must have made sweet love to her brother
I found out about your podcast from Stephanie Harlowe. I wanted to know more about the Powell case and she encouraged us to go to your channel. I started listening to you last night. I love the way the facts are presented and how each podcast is put together with background music, voice actors as well as actual clips of audio, and the narrating of events. I subscribed. There aren't many true crime channels I follow and, the ones that I do are able to present cases in a way that are gentle and don't add to the heaviness of the cases I learn about. Thanks for uploading!
New sub from steph. She did an amazing job crediting you guys!
I hope so, she took this man's work and read it word for word!!! She didn't leave it all in but the main 90% of her video wasn't her own. Terrible, no wonder she credited him before the comments came in that she had all his content!!!
@@indigoblue4791 shes gross. I refuse to watch her. She complained saying that another creator Danielle Hallan copied her and stole her cases. Eye roll. Shes unoriginal and there are so many other better true crime youtubers out there like Lordan arts
@@pinkpugginz I couldn't believe it when l heard the original work. She hadn't bothered to change the order it was given, she hadn't used his work to then base her own on it. Oh no she didn't say it in her own words, hers is the very same as the original. It's absolutely disgusting to be passing it off as her own work. She should be called out but she won't of course and is ignorant enough to take no notice if she was. Sad!!
Oooo Josh's voice gives me the creeps, sounds like that Warren Jeff's perv...yuk.😟
Omg it does! I couldn't put my finger on it but you're so right
April, I thought the same as you, Warren Jeff!😱
I thought of Warren Jeff immediately too!
Exactly what I thought. Gave me the willies.
@April Yes!!! I was searching my brain to figure out who I had heard before talk like Josh and it is Warren Jeffs! Crazy how they sound alike. Ewwwww!!
The similarities to this girl dating him shocks me because he is EXACTLY like my ex-husband who is from and still in Utah. I was a prisoner with him. Everything she said, I went through. But I was actually kept in a room, I had to escape, I did. I've learned a lot since.
Very Very Interesting!!
At least the 4th or 5th time I've watched this! Brilliant work!!
Referred Stephanie Harlowe. You have a new subscriber.
#metoo
Can we all relish in the fact that Josh tried to publish Susan’s journals and now his journals are online for all to hear for the rest of time? Same with Steve’s journals. We should publish them in their entirety for all to read.
Where are they? I've fell in this rabbit hole, but can't find but a few pages.
@ idk where the whole journals are published, but in this podcast COLD they read a lot from Josh’s journals.
If it wasn’t for Church Josh would of never had a chance with someone as great as Susan, but the women are told to match with fellow believers and church members and think that what they are doing is right, it’s awful to see all the snakes that face been able to marry good women.
Who’s here because of heavyd?
Same
Nope - "That Chapter"
Those audio journals freak me out. Remind me of the Warren Jeff jailhouse tapes . same eerie tone
I just wanna take a moment to talk to every beautiful women who's reading this .. 🌸
U are a very unique and precious creation , u deserve happiness , care , and all the Joy of the universe
please i just want u to be careful while loving or choosing someone to be one for u
take ur time
don't be deceived by his appearance, his beautiful way of speaking, or his treatment at the beginning, bcz all the beginnings are beautiful!
Marry someone who respects u ،protects u not a beast that devours u!
Make the family u deserve with who deserves!
there are many Joshes in this world
So please sweety don't be another susan 🥺
this poor wonderful woman who fell victim to a man devoid of humanity,
A devil who ruined her and her two baby angles #RIP 😭🙏🏻
Rozadolce that was beautifully said. I absolutely agree with you. I was terribly abused as a child until I was out on my own. My first bf was very abusive also. I realized I was choosing men based on what I was used to as a child. It’s odd and I still don’t understand it but I am 49 now and I eventually stopped dating altogether. I don’t trust any man. I hope you are doing good in your life and have a wonderful partner. It’s lonely being alone.
@@stephanieann8115 oh i'm sorry for that !
that's hard i feel u but choosing yourself and ur inner peace is the best thing u did! What's gone is gone
ur still young , ur soul is still fresh it's never too late to find the right person & age is only a number!
don't feel lonely enjoy every moment of ur life with the family and friends , work on urself for urself ! dress well & laugh ! i'm sure u'll meet that beautiful soul one day that will love u truly and take a good care of u 🤍
and aww thanks sweety i'm doing well in my life and i've already found the right one for me i'm just waiting for a miracle to happen so we'll be together pray for us 🙏🏻
Josh Powells voice reminds me so much of Warren Jeff's voice.
The cult leader that had multiple underage wives?
@@d-staxworldwidestax7112 yeah lol
OMG I was thinking that the whole time and came to the comments to see if anyone else felt the same about Josh's voice being very similar to Warren Jeffs. So creepy!
You can hear how off Josh sounds in his voice. There's this sense of detachment along with a creepy, breathy inflection. Almost like he's daydreaming out loud but with an unsettling lilt. 🚩🚩🚩
Please where can I find the music for all these episodes? It's too good! too!
Same creapy voice as Chad Daybell same voice as Warren Jeff's.. Why don't these men speak up and use a manly voice......
Listen to mormon general conference twice a year and you will know why they speak that way.
I can't decide if Josh is gay, or just a mormon
@@Annasea666 both.
Great podcast! I, also cannot believe I've never came across this. Great details and presentation. New subscriber!♡☆¤
Katherine’s voice sounds like Chris watts’ girlfriends, Nicole. Do you hear it or is it just me?
Laurie Blenkle yes!! I just made the same comment before reading this. Totally
I agree.
I wad just going to leave that comment!
Laurie Blenkle yes lol
Yes! However, she doesn't say "like" every other word.
Thank you.
I'm here from Psychology in Seattle :)
My first video like this. I love it! Well done 👍
I'm sorry but I have to say it... How stupid do you have to be to give all of your money to your boyfriend, and then get a student loan and sign the cheque for him to put in his account... and then after never seeing that money, continue signing the cheques for him every time they come?
Manipulation. Thats how
That’s how narcissists work, they reel you in, isolate you from your friends and family, then make you rely on them for everything. It’s a mind f*ck, and it takes a lot of courage to leave.
@@CapricornGirl9 You could not be more correct. You do not see it - at first, esp. if you've never encountered it in such an exaggerated manner. Some manipulators are VERY devious, by using more covert methods, which happened to me - he was more subtle than most manipulators - very clever.
She was only 19 when they got together
@@CapricornGirl9 crap
This is absolutely brilliant. Good show lad. Cheers from 🥝 country 🇳🇿 🧑🏻🎤🔥❤️🍻🍻🍻🍻
Where's the next two episodes?
On their way! But you can go and download them for free on the KSL Newsradio app or wherever you get podcasts by searching for us.
EDIT: We've got all those links in the description too.
Best podcast Well done. Do you have more like cold
Susan was so beautiful. She was wayyyy too good for that loser Josh.
Josh sounds so much like warren jeffs
All these Mormon dudes do.
please it looks so interesting but i need french subtitles 😭
Hard to believe Josh had a background. He was troubled and screwed by his dad. I still feel like he didn’t have to follow the family dysfunction, what he did to his sons and wife was evil.
He was a narcissist
Does anyone know where I can find the subscription of this podcast and others chapters?
What was Josh doing for work during all this?
Mooching, pulling off insurance scams via staging car accidents. He lost more jobs than most have in a normal lifespan. By the way Catherine is ny wife of 22.5 years. If I knew half of what I found out later(along with everyone else)about Josh during that quick Seattle trip to retrieve Catherine's things, I wouldve wasted his sorry ass right there and then
RIP 🙏❤ Susan and the Boys.
He sounds like mr. Rodger but creepy as fuck not soothing .. I might get hate for saying that but I swear that’s what his voice is reminding me of like he’s trying to come off as the nice guy but pushing nice beyond it’s limits just in voice. I don’t understand how the kids were left in his care just with that alone I wouldn’t trust his own kids left alone with him.
There used to be a commercial for some insurance company where a man was lying on a couch like he was in a therapists office. He was whining and said, "And that's why yellow makes me sad..." The therapist looks like a drill sargeant. He picked up a box of tissues and whipped it at the guy calling him some things. One was "jackwagon" and the other was "Namby-Pamby". I never knew what a jackwagon was, I have now found the person to fit that description. Sorry this is long, but I know someone, somewhere, has seen this commercial and will most likely be shooting pop out their nose as I did when I heard him speak. Have a great day!
Just starting this podcast and read the about section. Does anyone know who or what KSL is?
ETA found the answer to my own question. KSL News radio.
Came to your podcast after a praising reference from Stephanie Harlowe and her 3 part take on this tragic case.
How can any man well sorry ur not a man if u treat any woman like that my dad would hit my mum when I was a wee boy and of course I seen it one day a smashed an old milk bottle over his head a was only 10 am 42 now and I have never treated any woman like these 🤡's out their and yes not seen that thing it my dad in over 30 years my mum is better of with out him me to for my mum safety???So please to any woman going through this get away from these monsters how they hit u then aww am sorry a will never do it again I till nxt time get out of their asap???
Good for you for protecting your Mom. I’m sure that means the world to her. I seen a billboard that had a big bouquet of roses on it and it said “just waiting for the next I’M SORRY” Women Leave Now!! Then it had a telephone number for a crisis center. Isn’t that so true?! I could totally resonate with it, unfortunately.
I'm convinced him and his brother were molested by there father and that's why he struggled with women fast forward to Susan I believe everything with his dad and her hit a breaking point I think him and his father both played a part in this. When he was talking to his sister when she was wearing a wire he says I know what I have done and I haven't done anything....the way he says it is so telling. Like he didn't but he knows who did....his father
He was definitely molested as well as Michael. in the 1992 divorce record the mom was talking about how Steve was making Michael and Josh sleep in the bed with him.. Then Josh had Charlie and Braden sleep in the bed with him and they were all naked.
Did Josh and Catherine live together? and if so is that considered OK by the LDS community?
I am listening to the podcast for the 2nd time. Question: who is the man that Josh is talking about in his audio journal?? "You sent your brother to me and he filled me up. He replaced my broken heart with incredible joy." ??
By the way- I heard about your podcast when you were in a news clip with Nate Eaton from the East Idaho News station.
I’m tellin u..this family been killn people and pets for yrrrrs! Beautiful girl took a shot with the almost retard look what happened. So fcn sad
Is it just me or does some of his audio tapes sound eerily similar to Warren Jeffs
Exactly like Warren Jeffs! I came to the comments just to see if anyone else noticed this too.
NOTE : **stalk/stalking/stalker** 😦 😟
**Predator**
5:50 ickkk. That voice is frightening.
He sounds like a female Donald Sutherland.
28:20. My man got addicted to computers.
He took her student loans, took her paychecks, REFUSED to let her go to her uncle's funeral... no matter ow much she TRIED to persuade him. Yeah, he was obviously a controlling & possessive piece of shit, buuut wtf was wrong with her?!? They weren't married, no kids, she had no ties to him. He wasn't even hitting her. Why did she LET him treat her like that? Why did she LET him steal thousands of dollars that she'd have to pay back. She would've had to go to his bank with him for that one, and she would've had to sign her paychecks every single time.
This reminds me of that ''Surviving R Kelly docuseries, on Lifetime. A bunch of women that LET themselves be victimized, then sat there and complained about it, minimized their own responsibility & maximized his. And yes, in both cases, the men ARE dicks, but the women allowed their treatment of them. They absolutely allowed it. And in R Kelly's case, he had fetishized that dynamic, so I'm sure he thought they were into it to. While Josh's situation with his ex wasn't fetishized in that way, maybe he didn't realize how controlling he'd been, since she just allowed herself to be his doormat. Anyway, I'm glad she finally wised up & decided to not return to him. I'm just tired of women letting some dude rule their lives, then complaining about each and every example of that, as if they're the ultimate victim. I just don't have any sympathy for this chick.
Christine 16 You have no idea what domestic violence is.
What a nasty way to blame and shame the victims, wow.
Loser.
Impressive, new subscriber
So we're not going to talk about the fact that Katherine sounds *exactly* like Nichol Kessinger?
They both give me strong druggie vibes
Go listen to audio tapes of Warren Jeffs he sounds just like this creepy
Has anyone checked to make sure the guy josh father says Susan ran away with wasn’t killed by the Powell’s ? Trying to make a story to explain her missing?
I was a close neighbor of Susan Powell and I would like to talk to you. Just want to tell you something
You can contact Dave directly by sending an email to cold at ksl.com, or message us on Facebook or Instagram.
Keeps freezing. Ty. M
Man. Fighting over the sewing machine. I think weve all been there. Friday night fight over prime sewing machine hours.
My heart :(
Katherine sounds like Nicole Kessinger
Josh, his brother and father were sooooo creepy 😳
He sounds like Warren Jeffs 🤮
That’s what I thought !!
Second time I’m listening to this. How many of these creepy guy are there?
Stephanie Harlowe sent me here