Yes, very much. Too bad it wasn't the year before when he was 39 and turned 40 in December. I mean he only hit .236, but had better power numbers, and led the league in SB and Walks.
Might not have made the list, but at age 41 in 1962, Stan Musial batted .330 with a .924 OPS, made both All-Star games, and finished 10th in NL MVP. Raul Ibanez in 2013 at age 41 slugged 29 Homers. In the year he turned 40, Paul Molitor led the league with 225 Hits, batted .341, scored 99, and drove in 113 runs despite only 9 Homers. But that wasn't until August 22, so it doesn't really count. In 1997 though, he dropped to .305 and added just 1 more Homer and fell off in everything else.
How about some of the managers of yore , we can even throw in a "Commish'' or two ..Sparky Anderson , Earl Weaver and Bowie Kuhn come readily to mind. There are tons more _and better_ examples, nonetheless, these dudes looked ancient or at least had the 'mature man look' down pat while still in their 30's. Whether they were plagued by a perennial "dad-bod" prematurely gray hair, hair barely there, no hair at all atop their respective noggins, the effect while perhaps mildly unsettling at the time and only to a handful of observers becomes especially disturbing, frightening even, in retrospect @@HummBabyBaseball
Agreed. He was still pulling 100 plus fastballs in his last season. He will forever have the gratitude of the Rangers and the Express for making baseball fun to watch.
It was a strike-shortened season, but the year he turned 40, Pete Rose led the NL in hits with 140, which would have projected to over 200. Hit .325 with an OBP of .391 and finished 10 in MVP balloting. Phil Niekro won 20 games at age 40, finished 5th in Cy Young voting at age 43, and was an All-Star at age 45.
I would still lean towards Williams' final season as the best. Although he had only 390 plate appearances, he still finished 6th in homers and walks. He would have finished 2nd in average, just 4 points off the pace. His on base and slugging would lead the league by a large margin. I also think it's way more difficult to be an everyday player in their 40's compared to a pitcher (especially a lefty). Taking nothing away from Spahn and Moyer. They're wonderful. But what Williams did was extraordinary.
Awesome stuff. You do outstanding work. Watching all these Warriors and I do mean Warriors. All of them regardless of all the players who used steroids, they still deserve credit for their achievements. Baseball is America's favorite pastime and the way you do your videos I doubt anyone does a better job. Keep those vids coming I love em.
Speaking of Barry Bonds video game-like seasons, I re-created his video game replacement, MVP Baseball legend Jon Dowd at age 48 in MLB 2K11. Coming out of retirement to help the Giants chase down a second consecutive World Series, Dowd batted in 89 RBI and had a respectable 21 HR, on the way to winning his first ever Pennet.
Where's Carlton Fisk's 1990 season? At 43 he caught 3/4 of the Chisox's games, .285/18HR/65RBI as clubhouse leader. His 1991 season (44) was nearly as good, a year long fight with the Twins (WS winners) for the division. I looked up Evans. Only hit .257, but ONE HUNDRED BB and only 84 Ks. Maturity and knowledge counts.
Goose Gossage's 1991 season (and three after that) weren't as good as many of these, but FOUR good seasons after 40 from the bullpen, being the team leader?
Satchel's 52 season is more remarkable when you consider the fact that he was the main reason the Browns didn't lose 100 games and finish last place that year.
Pete *Rose* hit .325 at age 40 in the strike-shortened 1981 season which limited his AB's to 486. Who knows whether without the disruption he would have maintained the pace or tailed off
He wouldn't have made the team if he weren't Schott's personal plaything. And as a lifelong gambling cheat, his numbers should be scrubbed from the record books.
@@guessundheit6494Rose hit 325 the year before, lead the league in hits and made the all star team. He was also an all star in 82. Do you still think he couldn't make the team on merit?
I remember 2003 for him, as the NYC media wanted NYY to get him, but he went to CHW instead. At least we had one season with him like 8 years later lol.
A few of these players were steroid users .... I have more respect for Fisk, Yastrzemski, Henderson , Winfield and a few others but not those that juiced up
this is why i support roid use it allowed players to bounce back from injury and play longer looks like craw is going to have to retire this season and he is only 36
Rickey Henderson's age 40 season with the Mets was pretty impressive: 37 SB, 89 runs scored, 12 HR, .315 batting average, .889 OPS
Yes, very much. Too bad it wasn't the year before when he was 39 and turned 40 in December. I mean he only hit .236, but had better power numbers, and led the league in SB and Walks.
Might not have made the list, but at age 41 in 1962, Stan Musial batted .330 with a .924 OPS, made both All-Star games, and finished 10th in NL MVP.
Raul Ibanez in 2013 at age 41 slugged 29 Homers.
In the year he turned 40, Paul Molitor led the league with 225 Hits, batted .341, scored 99, and drove in 113 runs despite only 9 Homers. But that wasn't until August 22, so it doesn't really count. In 1997 though, he dropped to .305 and added just 1 more Homer and fell off in everything else.
Yep, and Stan Musial at that age had to face pitchers like Drysdale, Koufax, Spahn and Marichal in 1962.
you should have a special list of players in their 40s who looked like they were 60, including Charlie Hough, Gaylord Perry, and Phil Niekro.
Ohh for sure; I'm 43 and can't believe some of them were the same age as me.. they looked at least 60!
How about some of the managers of yore , we can even throw in a "Commish'' or two ..Sparky Anderson , Earl Weaver and Bowie Kuhn come readily to mind. There are tons more _and better_ examples, nonetheless, these dudes looked ancient or at least had the 'mature man look' down pat while still in their 30's. Whether they were plagued by a perennial "dad-bod" prematurely gray hair, hair barely there, no hair at all atop their respective noggins, the effect while perhaps mildly unsettling at the time and only to a handful of observers becomes especially disturbing, frightening even, in retrospect @@HummBabyBaseball
Great job!
I would like to mention Harold Baines 1999 season at age 40.
Oops I think you meant 1999. Yeah 25 Homers, 103 RBI, .312 Avg, .919 OPS, and he made his final All-Star team.
Ohh yeah I think I considered that one; Baines was incredible and had great longevity which got him in the Hall of Fame.
I'm just amazed at seeing how helpless The Ryan Express made hitters look in his 40s, legends never die.
Agreed. He was still pulling 100 plus fastballs in his last season. He will forever have the gratitude of the Rangers and the Express for making baseball fun to watch.
It was a strike-shortened season, but the year he turned 40, Pete Rose led the NL in hits with 140, which would have projected to over 200. Hit .325 with an OBP of .391 and finished 10 in MVP balloting.
Phil Niekro won 20 games at age 40, finished 5th in Cy Young voting at age 43, and was an All-Star at age 45.
Moyer pitching until he was 49 is insane. He had some great 40+ years too.
I would still lean towards Williams' final season as the best. Although he had only 390 plate appearances, he still finished 6th in homers and walks. He would have finished 2nd in average, just 4 points off the pace. His on base and slugging would lead the league by a large margin. I also think it's way more difficult to be an everyday player in their 40's compared to a pitcher (especially a lefty). Taking nothing away from Spahn and Moyer. They're wonderful. But what Williams did was extraordinary.
That is an excellent point.. Pitchers do have a longer peak age-wise.. And many pitcheers are better from age 30-40 than earlier in said career
Love your videos Eric. Go Giants💯⚾😎
Appreciate it!!
I had a feeling the Big Unit would be on here. Glad he's at least on the Top 5.
1999 Harold Baines 25 HR 103 RBI . 312 AVE Age 40 AS
1979 Lou Brock 123 H 21 SB .304 BA Age 40
Hoyt Wilhelm may not have had an MVP caliber season after age 40, but the guy played until he was almost 50.
Awesome stuff. You do outstanding work. Watching all these Warriors and I do mean Warriors. All of them regardless of all the players who used steroids, they still deserve credit for their achievements. Baseball is America's favorite pastime and the way you do your videos I doubt anyone does a better job. Keep those vids coming I love em.
great video. lot of thought put into your videos
Thanks!!
Speaking of Barry Bonds video game-like seasons, I re-created his video game replacement, MVP Baseball legend Jon Dowd at age 48 in MLB 2K11.
Coming out of retirement to help the Giants chase down a second consecutive World Series, Dowd batted in 89 RBI and had a respectable 21 HR, on the way to winning his first ever Pennet.
Where's Carlton Fisk's 1990 season? At 43 he caught 3/4 of the Chisox's games, .285/18HR/65RBI as clubhouse leader. His 1991 season (44) was nearly as good, a year long fight with the Twins (WS winners) for the division.
I looked up Evans. Only hit .257, but ONE HUNDRED BB and only 84 Ks. Maturity and knowledge counts.
Goose Gossage's 1991 season (and three after that) weren't as good as many of these, but FOUR good seasons after 40 from the bullpen, being the team leader?
Always waiting to see your next list.......
Satchel's 52 season is more remarkable when you consider the fact that he was the main reason the Browns didn't lose 100 games and finish last place that year.
Pete *Rose* hit .325 at age 40 in the strike-shortened 1981 season which limited his AB's to 486. Who knows whether without the disruption he would have maintained the pace or tailed off
Ah, now I see this has been covered in previous commentary🙃
Great stuff Erik!
Thank you!
Great video. Colon, Cruz and Ortiz all tested positive for steroids as well.
Paul Molitor had a excellent season at 40, hitting .305
Pete Rose playing in all 162 games at age 41 in 1982 is also very impressive.
Definitely
He wouldn't have made the team if he weren't Schott's personal plaything. And as a lifelong gambling cheat, his numbers should be scrubbed from the record books.
@@guessundheit6494Rose hit 325 the year before, lead the league in hits and made the all star team. He was also an all star in 82. Do you still think he couldn't make the team on merit?
Didn't know that about Rivera - the comeback. wow
Relief Pitching is a joke; made for those that can't "cut it" as *real* pitchers.
You should do the worst seasons next
Nah, that would be too depressing.
@@ericrakestraw664 yea but it would probably get good amount of views ,, glass half empty type vids typically do pretty good
@@James_Ford4815 yea u got a good point
Jamie Moyer may be the last great "crafty" left handers in the game.
Thumbnail is off on Bartolo. He was 30 in 2003.
I can't believe you noticed that, but thank you - I fixed it.
I remember 2003 for him, as the NYC media wanted NYY to get him, but he went to CHW instead. At least we had one season with him like 8 years later lol.
I like how you didn't give Barry B his own label on the timer and just lumped him into Roger Clemens section... you must really hate the Barry B Boy.
Seems to me era is a defunct stat, no one pitches 9 innings anymore, need a new stat like "runs per start".
Ton y gwynn and Rickey Henderson.
A few of these players were steroid users .... I have more respect for Fisk, Yastrzemski, Henderson , Winfield and a few others but not those that juiced up
this is why i support roid use
it allowed players to bounce back from injury and play longer
looks like craw is going to have to retire this season and he is only 36
No , steroids will eventually tear you apart , lots of athletes of died before their time , lots have lost their mind
Roid rage SHORTENS careers. Players like Rod Carew wouldn't have lasted as long if they had to play against cheats.
No, if you can't do it without it you should retire. Steroids give you greater peaks but a harder fall when your career is over.