Btw, the Ryzen 7 5700X has a TDP of 65W and NOT 105W, as you mistakenly mention in the descr and its an important factor cause it combines low consume, like a Ryzen 5, with high performance!😉
5700X3D is a 5800X3D that didn't bin out. That is how the 5700X3D came to be. They are chips that didn't quite make the cut. AMD found a way to sell it. Good for them.
Thats how all cpus are made bud. A 5900x was a failed 5950x, failed 5900x is a 5800x. 5800X3D by that train if thought is also a failed 5800x that could not clock high so they just slapped cache onto it. Its not something to worry about, the entire industry makes chips like this through testing and elimination. Its all good
If you already have a 5700X or 5600X. There is no reason to take 5700X3D, these CPU can be overclocked 4.65-4.75ghz very easily. But if you have Zen 2 or Lower, 5700X3D is the way to go with AM4 platform
@@soul0merk i already own a 5700x so its not worth it and its more like 80 - 100 difference. / c e x will buy my 5700x3d for £80 ebay = 100 - 120 so its still more and not worth it .
No. I have a 5700X3D , -30 curve optimizer, stock vcore is just too high for that low clockspeed . It doesn't do consistent 4.1Ghz turbo boost. More like constantly doing 4050Mhz on all-cores. 4.15Ghz only in split seconds in single threaded workload. The low clockspeed affects other task like web browsing experience though. But it shines in gaming.
@@fleurdewin7958 . . I appreciate the information. I don't do any heavy gaming, but I _Do_ do mostly online work and a lot of YT video watching. Sounds like I would not really benefit much from this cpu.
Regarding your Apex legends tests. You are not going to see much of a difference in the firing range. Best way to test is in the dropship at the start of a map. On my 5600x CPU usage remains at 100% until I land. With a rx 6600 xt I am bottlenecked by my CPU at 1440p. Not Shader caching or asset loading. This is a true test of what difference a CPU makes in that game.
Hi, which CPU would you recommend between the 5700x and 5700x3d for both gaming and overall usage like little bit of light compression - decompression, Coding, heavy browsing, video playback etc? Does the x3d feel little bit slow compared to the standard 5700x for day-to-day tasks because of its slower clock speed? I have a b450 mobo and rx 6700xt GPU. I'm confused between these two for my final upgrade on AM4. I sure want higher FPS in games but i do not want my system to feel slow/sluggish outside of gaming. I want to know your thoughts since you have both as i've seen in your videos. Thanks
the lower clock speed is not going to affect your normal day to day task, such as browsing, light compression, decompression, coding and even heavy browsing. If you really want to maximise your fps then go for X3D chips. Only go for the non X3D chips if you do other cpu intensive workload that requires that fast single core performance. In your case, I do not think that it will affect much.
@@oopsurdeadm8that is absolutely not true, when they tested fortnite on performance mode, ( a cpu based game on low graphics settings) the cpu does most of the work and gets 200 more fps on the x3d, and is literally $40 more than the 5700x
@@oopsurdeadm8 dude that is literally not what zosa said, look at the data provided in the video, the only case in which you will see little difference on FPS is when playing in 4k on GPU intensive games, if you want the CPU for gaming the X3D is WAY better, a lot of games give a 20% to 30% more fps when playing on 1080p (which is the most common resolution according to steam data). And if you are playing on 4k your budget is completely different and shouldn't be building a new PC on AM4 (unless upgrading). Answering the original question, on day to day usage you are never going to notice a difference on cpu clocks, if you use it for work and stuff it is your call to make, but if the thing is about games the X3D will be a noticeably better experience
Go 5700x and get dinner with what you saved. I have a 4070s with a 5700x and yeah, it bottlenecks a lil with it, nothing to worry about, but with a 6700xt you'll have a great match.
@@oopsurdeadm8100% not. Rust is the most cpu demanding game there is, and x3d is scored the most staple fps on rust. Facepunch them self said to buy x3d for rust
@@SsaYreX from gaming benchmarks it should tend to do more fps than the 5700x thanks to the 96mb cache even if the stock 5700x has 3.40 ghz while this one has 3.00 ghz
Why on r7 5700x the video card is used 60% and on r7 5700x3d it is used 95%? is it normal to have this difference in frames, it doesn't seem to be a bottleneck, opinions?
Just see this video with my r7 5700x..maybe next upgrade i go to am5..am4 i start from ryzen 2600 upgrade to 3600 - 5600 and last 5700x..slow by slow upgrade..
Stop doing your tests in Firing Range for Apex Legends, go into an actual match instead. In firing range there is no big map, of course your fps is not gonna drop below 300. Do your future tests in actual matches pls otherwise it's pointless.
@@agustincastro-gu8ni it might be a little overkill but my gpu is never getting fully utilized for the most part, so I could probably reach close to 100% utilization with it
I will never use an Nvidia TX 4090 with any 5700x or 5700x3d but I would use a GPU that works best with these two processors. If you have a video using an AMD 7800 XT or 7900 GRE or Nvidia 4070 12 gig Super or AMD 7900 XT or Nvidia 4070ti Super it would be appreciated. I already know Nvidia 4070 Super is the most recommended GPU for a 5700x, I just don't want to buy anything without more recommendations.
At 4k resolution (7900 xtx, 4080, 4080s and 4090), the 5700x or 5700x3d for single player games (sometimes multiplayer games as well) is the best choose. 98% of the time, at 4k resolution the bottleneck gonna be the VGA.
I bought the rtx 4070 super a couple months ago for my 5700X. I play cyberpunk 2077 in 1440p and so far it works VERY well for me. Coming from using a 3060 ti, to this card, i felt like it was worth the upgrade.
I have a 5700x with a 4070s. It works well going 1440p and up, I do get a bit of a bottleneck in some games but nothing to worry about, I play 1440p or 4k dlss3q at 60fps and I'm happy with it. The last game I've been playing is Warhammer space marines 2, and I get 60fps in crowded areas with the CPU being the limiting factor, it's not a deal breaker by any means. What people don't consider with the 5700x is that you can pbo it ez and get 5800x freq with a couple of clicks, the x3d aren't really cpus to toy around with pbo and stuff
No it’s not, go to 12:00 that’s the only part I saw where the test is actually cpu bound, everything else they showed is gpu dependent and when you max out graphics and play 4k it puts all the work on the gpu giving them similar numbers, when it’s cpu bound you see that the x3d literally has 200 more fps than the 5700x cope harder they’re a $40 difference right now for way better performance in real competitive gaming
@@ZosaFTW My reply I made under my other comment (you must have a crush on me) applies to this comment as well. Waste of money unless your rig is used for esports gaming only.
@@ZosaFTW@ZosaFN testing a 4090 on 1080p low is pointless, unless Fortnite is all you play, you even said this is the only time of the vid that the cpu is truly the bottleneck, so 95% of the time is not. So you have 2k$ on GPU and you pair it with a 90$ display and an am4 platform... If you spend 2k on GPU you can buy am5 x3d. I get what you say, this is testing CPU bottleneck, but it's a ridiculous system configuration, no one in their right mind would come close to put a 5700/x3d with a 4080, let alone a 4090, and if they do, they deserve the "bottleneck". And 40$ difference?? Where?
@@akafede4351 it’s not a 4090 test it’s a 5700x vs 5700x3d my point is that people are saying that the x3d is trash because of the numbers they see on the screen but not realizing what the intended target market for the 5700x3d is, and that is cpu bound gaming (esports for example) when doing a cpu comparison should you not use games or settings where the cpu actually uses its potential?
Dude, 5700x and 5700x3d have 30% and 23% bottleneck effect for the 4090 respectively, so I don't see what the point of this video is if both processors are keeping the card from running at full power.
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➤ Warzone 3 1080p: 0:00
➤ Warzone 3 1440p: 0:29
➤ Warzone 3 4k: 0:51
➤ Warzone 3 DLSS Quality 1080p: 1:13
➤ Warzone 3 DLSS Quality 1440p: 1:45
➤ Warzone 3 DLSS Quality 4k: 2:07
➤ Forza Horizon 5 1080p: 2:29
➤ Forza Horizon 5 1440p: 2:57
➤ Forza Horizon 5 4k: 3:19
➤ Cyberpunk 2077 1080p: 3:42
➤ Cyberpunk 2077 1440p: 4:07
➤ Cyberpunk 2077 4k: 4:29
➤ Apex Legends 1080p: 4:51
➤ Apex Legends 1440p: 5:16
➤ Apex Legends 4k: 5:38
➤ Rainbow Six Siege 1080p: 6:00
➤ Rainbow Six Siege 1440p: 6:27
➤ Rainbow Six Siege 4k: 6:49
➤ The Witcher 3 1080p: 7:11
➤ The Witcher 3 1440p: 7:37
➤ The Witcher 3 4k: 7:59
➤ BeamNG Drive 1080p: 8:22
➤ BeamNG Drive 1440p: 8:51
➤ BeamNG Drive 4k: 9:13
➤ CSGO 2 1080p: 9:35
➤ CSGO 2 1440p: 10:01
➤ CSGO 2 4k: 10:22
➤ Naraka Bladepoint 1080p: 10:45
➤ Naraka Bladepoint 1440p: 11:10
➤ Naraka Bladepoint 4k: 11:32
➤ Fortnite Chapter 5 S3 - Performance 1080p: 11:54
➤ Fortnite Chapter 5 S3 - Performance 1440p: 12:19
➤ Fortnite Chapter 5 S3 - Performance 4k: 12:41
➤ Red Dead Redemption 2 1080p: 13:03
➤ Red Dead Redemption 2 1440p: 13:31
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5700X3D is a 5800X3D that didn't bin out. That is how the 5700X3D came to be. They are chips that didn't quite make the cut. AMD found a way to sell it. Good for them.
How do they not make the cut tho
what cut? the fact they arent overly expensive?
That's straight up Gamer Nexus propaganda.
Thats how all cpus are made bud. A 5900x was a failed 5950x, failed 5900x is a 5800x. 5800X3D by that train if thought is also a failed 5800x that could not clock high so they just slapped cache onto it. Its not something to worry about, the entire industry makes chips like this through testing and elimination. Its all good
@Canis_Vulpesno shit, that's why it's 90$ more
If you already have a 5700X or 5600X. There is no reason to take 5700X3D, these CPU can be overclocked 4.65-4.75ghz very easily. But if you have Zen 2 or Lower, 5700X3D is the way to go with AM4 platform
i agree after s watching this only a 7800x3d would be worth the upgrade lol
what if the cost difference is only £50!
@@soul0merk i already own a 5700x so its not worth it and its more like 80 - 100 difference. / c e x will buy my 5700x3d for £80 ebay = 100 - 120 so its still more and not worth it .
Damn only a slight difference in CS2 😔
So ryzen 7 3700x could be survive?
Well , when the V-Cache helps, it helps a lot. But I just don't like that low 4.1Ghz turbo boost. However it doesn't seem to hurt performance by much.
I just bought one and I haven't hit with a game it couldn't plow its way through yet.
No. I have a 5700X3D , -30 curve optimizer, stock vcore is just too high for that low clockspeed . It doesn't do consistent 4.1Ghz turbo boost. More like constantly doing 4050Mhz on all-cores. 4.15Ghz only in split seconds in single threaded workload.
The low clockspeed affects other task like web browsing experience though. But it shines in gaming.
bro the ghz doesnt even matter
@@fleurdewin7958 . . I appreciate the information. I don't do any heavy gaming, but I _Do_ do mostly online work and a lot of YT video watching. Sounds like I would not really benefit much from this cpu.
@@danilukiee it might not to you, but it does impact how I use _MY_ computer.
How is it possible that Ryzen 7 5700X consumes more energy than Ryzen 7 5700X3D? If 1st has 65 W TDP and 2nd 105 W. 🤔
My 5700x consumes around 120w at 4.6ghz
@@MrPeacher213 cuz you just unlock more tdp manually
because tdp is not power consumption
Regarding your Apex legends tests. You are not going to see much of a difference in the firing range. Best way to test is in the dropship at the start of a map. On my 5600x CPU usage remains at 100% until I land. With a rx 6600 xt I am bottlenecked by my CPU at 1440p. Not Shader caching or asset loading. This is a true test of what difference a CPU makes in that game.
It's a shame you haven't tried it with STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor, it was ideal for measuring the cache.
Hi, which CPU would you recommend between the 5700x and 5700x3d for both gaming and overall usage like little bit of light compression - decompression, Coding, heavy browsing, video playback etc? Does the x3d feel little bit slow compared to the standard 5700x for day-to-day tasks because of its slower clock speed?
I have a b450 mobo and rx 6700xt GPU. I'm confused between these two for my final upgrade on AM4. I sure want higher FPS in games but i do not want my system to feel slow/sluggish outside of gaming.
I want to know your thoughts since you have both as i've seen in your videos. Thanks
the lower clock speed is not going to affect your normal day to day task, such as browsing, light compression, decompression, coding and even heavy browsing. If you really want to maximise your fps then go for X3D chips. Only go for the non X3D chips if you do other cpu intensive workload that requires that fast single core performance. In your case, I do not think that it will affect much.
@@oopsurdeadm8that is absolutely not true, when they tested fortnite on performance mode, ( a cpu based game on low graphics settings) the cpu does most of the work and gets 200 more fps on the x3d, and is literally $40 more than the 5700x
@@oopsurdeadm8 dude that is literally not what zosa said, look at the data provided in the video, the only case in which you will see little difference on FPS is when playing in 4k on GPU intensive games, if you want the CPU for gaming the X3D is WAY better, a lot of games give a 20% to 30% more fps when playing on 1080p (which is the most common resolution according to steam data). And if you are playing on 4k your budget is completely different and shouldn't be building a new PC on AM4 (unless upgrading).
Answering the original question, on day to day usage you are never going to notice a difference on cpu clocks, if you use it for work and stuff it is your call to make, but if the thing is about games the X3D will be a noticeably better experience
Go 5700x and get dinner with what you saved. I have a 4070s with a 5700x and yeah, it bottlenecks a lil with it, nothing to worry about, but with a 6700xt you'll have a great match.
@@oopsurdeadm8100% not. Rust is the most cpu demanding game there is, and x3d is scored the most staple fps on rust. Facepunch them self said to buy x3d for rust
in gaming the 5700x3d is better but in video rendering 5700x is better.
Why does it say rtx 4060 then rtx 4090? Is it for recording it?
in the Cyberpunk you have enabled the FSR of AMD... you forgot deactivated 3:42
What motherboard did you use for this test?
makes no dif in performance
Hi i buy r7 5700x because 3d don t was on stock in fisical shop i made a mistake ? 😢
no, not all games benefits with the 3d
Yesterday went to grab 5700x but came back with 5700x3D, guess my hunch was right
What hunch you talking about? Was that a good purchase?
Is it worth upgrading from a 5700x to a 5700x3d or not?
I also ask myself this question, most likely yes
No , if you have 5700x
@@gunemanbreak9121 I upgraded from 5700x to 5700x3d for free, was it a bad thing?
@@Alehanders Well, is there a difference?
@@SsaYreX from gaming benchmarks it should tend to do more fps than the 5700x thanks to the 96mb cache even if the stock 5700x has 3.40 ghz while this one has 3.00 ghz
Can you add assetto corsa benchmark for 5700x3d?
Why on r7 5700x the video card is used 60% and on r7 5700x3d it is used 95%? is it normal to have this difference in frames, it doesn't seem to be a bottleneck, opinions?
With the x3d version the video card can make more frames, increasing it's work rate and percentage
@@GiovaneOliveiraFodao yes, but it's not normal, it doesn't matter that it's x3d, the video card doesn't stress, it's not normal
Because the 5700x non 3d clearly bottlenecks the card
@@PanchoMngkn how to block if CPU is 65% used, you don't understand the term block
@@PanchoMngkn bottlenecks are when the cpu is at 100% no t 65%
Please made this video for rust
in games where you have ridiculous amount of fps, you can get even more. Around 100fps both cpus tie.
13:05 8gb vram 4090??
maybe he puts the same clip on every benchmarks just to show the settings
Just see this video with my r7 5700x..maybe next upgrade i go to am5..am4 i start from ryzen 2600 upgrade to 3600 - 5600 and last 5700x..slow by slow upgrade..
Stop doing your tests in Firing Range for Apex Legends, go into an actual match instead.
In firing range there is no big map, of course your fps is not gonna drop below 300. Do your future tests in actual matches pls otherwise it's pointless.
is it worthwhile to upgrade my ryzen 7 2700 to a ryzen 7 5700x3D? i have a rtx 2070 as my gpu currently
I would get a 5800x3d or 5800xt or r9 instead if i were to upgrade from a 2700
Get Ryzen 7 5700X3D first and then a newer gpu.
Even the 5600x would be a nice upgrade, even tough the 5700x3d is kinda overkill for that gpu
@@agustincastro-gu8ni it might be a little overkill but my gpu is never getting fully utilized for the most part, so I could probably reach close to 100% utilization with it
@@masterlee1988 thinking this too 👍
I will never use an Nvidia TX 4090 with any 5700x or 5700x3d but I would use a GPU that works best with these two processors. If you have a video using an AMD 7800 XT or 7900 GRE or Nvidia 4070 12 gig Super or AMD 7900 XT or Nvidia 4070ti Super it would be appreciated. I already know Nvidia 4070 Super is the most recommended GPU for a 5700x, I just don't want to buy anything without more recommendations.
At 4k resolution (7900 xtx, 4080, 4080s and 4090), the 5700x or 5700x3d for single player games (sometimes multiplayer games as well) is the best choose. 98% of the time, at 4k resolution the bottleneck gonna be the VGA.
I bought the rtx 4070 super a couple months ago for my 5700X. I play cyberpunk 2077 in 1440p and so far it works VERY well for me. Coming from using a 3060 ti, to this card, i felt like it was worth the upgrade.
I have a 5700x with a 4070s. It works well going 1440p and up, I do get a bit of a bottleneck in some games but nothing to worry about, I play 1440p or 4k dlss3q at 60fps and I'm happy with it. The last game I've been playing is Warhammer space marines 2, and I get 60fps in crowded areas with the CPU being the limiting factor, it's not a deal breaker by any means. What people don't consider with the 5700x is that you can pbo it ez and get 5800x freq with a couple of clicks, the x3d aren't really cpus to toy around with pbo and stuff
Интересно.В настройках графики 4060 а в геймплее 4090
when your cpu cant handle heavy grapgics card it leads to micro stuttering as iam seeing in this video.
Barely any more performance, and the drawback is way more wattage and price tag? 5700x is way better.
No it’s not, go to 12:00 that’s the only part I saw where the test is actually cpu bound, everything else they showed is gpu dependent and when you max out graphics and play 4k it puts all the work on the gpu giving them similar numbers, when it’s cpu bound you see that the x3d literally has 200 more fps than the 5700x cope harder they’re a $40 difference right now for way better performance in real competitive gaming
@@ZosaFTW My reply I made under my other comment (you must have a crush on me) applies to this comment as well. Waste of money unless your rig is used for esports gaming only.
@@ZosaFTW@ZosaFN testing a 4090 on 1080p low is pointless, unless Fortnite is all you play, you even said this is the only time of the vid that the cpu is truly the bottleneck, so 95% of the time is not. So you have 2k$ on GPU and you pair it with a 90$ display and an am4 platform... If you spend 2k on GPU you can buy am5 x3d. I get what you say, this is testing CPU bottleneck, but it's a ridiculous system configuration, no one in their right mind would come close to put a 5700/x3d with a 4080, let alone a 4090, and if they do, they deserve the "bottleneck". And 40$ difference?? Where?
@@akafede4351 it’s not a 4090 test it’s a 5700x vs 5700x3d my point is that people are saying that the x3d is trash because of the numbers they see on the screen but not realizing what the intended target market for the 5700x3d is, and that is cpu bound gaming (esports for example) when doing a cpu comparison should you not use games or settings where the cpu actually uses its potential?
@@akafede4351 amazon rn 5700x is $160 and 5700x3d is $200 that’s a $40 difference
Bro? you fucking genius
Dude, 5700x and 5700x3d have 30% and 23% bottleneck effect for the 4090 respectively, so I don't see what the point of this video is if both processors are keeping the card from running at full power.
smartest youtube comment xd
To point out that fact.
Basicly the same
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