Makram Rabah: Conflict on Mount Lebanon: The Druze, The Maronites & Collective Memory | Sarde

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  • @sardeafterdinner
    @sardeafterdinner  Рік тому +17

    We love you all. Don't forget to like and subscribe for the Algorithm! You can check out Makram’s Books here: English: a.co/d/62rSiIf | Arabic: a.co/d/h170NCu Here are the timestamps:
    00:00 | The Myth of War
    06:17 | Maronite & Druze narratives put them on a collision course
    09:31 | Should our differences stop us from being inclusive towards each other?
    12:38 | Understanding the origins of Druze & Maronites in the region
    16:10 | Did Lebanese nationalism exist under Ottoman rule?
    20:52 | The international element of the Mount Lebanon wars
    23:38 | Why was “Greater Lebanon” of 1920 rejected by Muslims?
    27:32 | From producing knowledge to exporting c*ptagon
    31:12 | Why did Makram choose to write about the Mount Lebanon war?
    33:37 | The Druze/Maronite experiment
    38:57 | The Gemayels, Joumblatts, & the 1982 Mount Lebanon war
    45:07 | Isr@el, Sabra & Chatila massacres, and the aftermath
    47:01 | Who was the real victor of the Druze Maronite war?
    50:35 | The assassination of Kamal Joumblatt & the Syrian entry to Lebanon
    51:28 | Explaining the Right/Left nuance of Maronites & Druze
    55:28 | Did the PLO cause the Lebanese Civil War?
    56:40 | Our silence enables their violence
    59:34 | Why H.A killed Lokman & targeted others
    1:02:16 | The Lebanese Crisis is an “Ethical Crisis”
    1:05:35 | We don’t want a superhero/savior we need a super system
    1:12:03 | Iran, KSA and Walid Joumblatt
    :17:30 | Crises of succession - From the Iranian to the Lebanese
    1:22:20 | Our power lies in our pluralism.
    1:24:11 | Is there hope?

    • @danyfrenn7817
      @danyfrenn7817 Рік тому

      Can you invite someone who can talk history from a right point of view. Too many feftists

    • @ayoub6434
      @ayoub6434 Рік тому

      ااال إلى

  • @Roonii82
    @Roonii82 9 місяців тому +4

    I applaude the editors for adding pictures to help visualize the narrative. I applaude the hosts for deeply listening and probing the guest at the right moments. It's rare to have a host who doesn't insert his ego and disturb the guest, and it's even more rare to have two hosts who are coming in at the right moment with nice curiousity that resonates with the listener. Thank you for the guest who is spoon feeding us the extract of years of hard academic work. Thank you Sarde, you guys are precious!

  • @alexlutfi3830
    @alexlutfi3830 Рік тому +15

    I'll never get bored listening to you guys for hours. Love you Midea and Muaen and respect to your gust.❤❤❤

  • @ronimounz
    @ronimounz Рік тому +10

    Every time I watch sarde I tell myself this is the best episode, then I watch the next episode, and I say no, this is the best episode. So thanks sarde for giving us amazing episodes every time.❤❤❤

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому +1

      Funding, good lighting, nice voice rec and translation, etc... can make nice episodes but they can't change facts and sometimes cannot hide ignorance. Thank you

    • @Harout.Joulakian
      @Harout.Joulakian Рік тому

      ditto!

    • @useru9404
      @useru9404 6 місяців тому

      Are you gay?

  • @bububoudi
    @bububoudi Рік тому +4

    I really enjoyed listening to Makram definitely bring him back.

  • @inassesalloum8076
    @inassesalloum8076 Рік тому +7

    I watched it twice and I enjoyed it so much. One of my favourite episodes so far!
    I feel so hopeful watching people like Makram. Maybe one day I will be back to Lebanon with my kids😅

  • @Firashelou
    @Firashelou Рік тому +5

    Great guest Makram Rabah ! very open minded analyst and historian ! Makram Rabah is a must have on Sarde like Charles Hayek ! great job !

  • @igarlic
    @igarlic Рік тому +5

    Insightful episode. Re - on investing back in Lebanon: We were in the process of opening an office in Beirut back in 2019 and hiring local talent, then put everything on hold since the explosion. It's extremely hard to us to make sure we get our work done on time with all issues with stability, collapsed banking sector, power outage and weak internet. We're still looking forward to that day when it comes.

  • @Rushopium
    @Rushopium Рік тому +3

    What an incredible guy Makram , full of knowledge ! Enjoyed. Every single minute of this episode , as always !

  • @Ramishtine
    @Ramishtine Рік тому +2

    Dr. Makram Rabah possesses an extraordinary level of knowledge in the field. It was a privilege to hear him share stories that are rarely articulated in such detail. I am grateful for team Sarde for providing the platform to people like Makram. The amount of information he shared was so rich and informative that I had to listen to it twice to fully grasp it all 🙏🏻
    keep going strong and we need Makram back la nesrod 3a more of his “blast from the past” stories.
    Liked and Subscribed

  • @carolea3782
    @carolea3782 Рік тому +2

    « It’s a journey & an invitation for debate » thank u Makram for your book & your invitation for dialogue between Lebanese & your respect for others & different perspectives.

  • @aou6499
    @aou6499 Рік тому +6

    Makram is a sample of Young and True Lebanese, regardless of their religion, who are the only hope and only bet for the Future of Lebanon.
    Lokman and the many lebanese martyrs would have loved hearing this important interview.
    Bon courage to the team Sardé.

  • @bananaparty928
    @bananaparty928 9 місяців тому +1

    C’est un des meilleurs épisodes de Sarde que j’ai visionné à ce jour. Les enjeux que font face les Libanais dans les quatre coins du globe sont plus réels que jamais. Keep it up!

  • @ebtihaljassim98
    @ebtihaljassim98 Рік тому +6

    You guys are always inroduced us to amazing guests and content! Thank you

  • @maryamalfakhrey6600
    @maryamalfakhrey6600 Рік тому +1

    Whenever I say " this is the best Sarde" you surprise us with a better one! Keep it up, history has never been more entertaining

  • @talal3438
    @talal3438 Рік тому +13

    سردة بتجنن ❤️ كمية كبيرة من المعلومات... مكرم موسوعة 👍🏻

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому +1

      الله يهديك

    • @rabiaabbas262
      @rabiaabbas262 Рік тому

      ​@@youtubeuser8027الله يهدينا كلياتنا بس شو قصدك؟ هو مش موسوعة؟ مين احسن منو؟ اعطيني أمثلة لأني بحب اسمع كزا حدا

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому

      @@rabiaabbas262 ما عم قيّم ع صعيد امتلاك المعلومات. ممكن تلاقي بالموسوعات الورقية او الالكترونية او اليوتيوب معلومات اكتر بكتير. لكن عم احكي ع شخص السيد مكرم. الرجل منحاز سياسيا وتحيزه صار واصل فيه لمطارح انو ممكن يكذب. مرة مثلا نشر تغريدة فيها خبر كاذب وكتار نبّهوا لكن بتذكر ما حذف التغريدة. هيدا مثال بسيييط عن كيف انو بعض المثقفين بكبّوا اخلاقياتهم وعلمهم وثقافتهم ع جنب وقت يصير في شي بعارض انحيازهم السياسي

  • @bakarmohamad8
    @bakarmohamad8 Рік тому +1

    Officially my favourite channel.

  • @husseinhijazi2319
    @husseinhijazi2319 Місяць тому

    Thank you for having a highly informed rebellion free man like Makram.

  • @Karkkuss
    @Karkkuss Рік тому +10

    I’m half lebanese. All the Lebanese I knew growing up were immigrants to US in the 80’s, and aren’t very in touch with the current and modern culture. Thanks for helping me learn Arabic, and about the real lebanese intellectual scene :)

  • @josephabourjeily
    @josephabourjeily 7 місяців тому

    Simply brilliant. Makram clearly shows how knowledgeable and analytical he is. He has a beautiful mind !!

  • @rollasabra307
    @rollasabra307 Рік тому +4

    Amazing and very interesting episode. Respect to Dr. Rabah. Thank you.

  • @monicakaram86
    @monicakaram86 Рік тому +2

    Great Sarde. Thanks for always introducing us to outstanding people!

  • @carolea3782
    @carolea3782 Рік тому +2

    We have to embrace diversity We have to acknowledge that diversity is within oneself ! Thank u Sardé ♥️& thank u for your guest

  • @pierrehage6032
    @pierrehage6032 24 дні тому

    Very interesting really,thank you so much ❤

  • @AbdullahAbdullah-rd9mm
    @AbdullahAbdullah-rd9mm 3 дні тому

    He is so informative

  • @nedjma3863
    @nedjma3863 Рік тому +6

    Merci pour cette magnifique émission très instructive, merci pour la grande qualité du débat, je vous souhaite tout le succès du monde

  • @ritouch1
    @ritouch1 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this amazing Sarde❤

  • @mahmoudelabed3793
    @mahmoudelabed3793 Рік тому +2

    فظيع فعلا حلقة منتعة، في أسألة كتير بتساورني من زمان جزء كبير منا تم الجواب عليها بالحلقة موسوعة معلومات و تحليل منطقي يصدق برافو سردة ❤

  • @tamarashinnawie6832
    @tamarashinnawie6832 Рік тому +2

    Great episode and very informative. Thank you

  • @ItsJounis
    @ItsJounis Рік тому +2

    the best one so far!

  • @msa590
    @msa590 Рік тому +3

    Great episode, I learnt so much! 🧡

  • @rosapoladian8105
    @rosapoladian8105 Рік тому +2

    Excellent , I love history and historians. . Thank you.

  • @alialibraheem6674
    @alialibraheem6674 Рік тому +2

    This Sarde is great
    !

  • @ifbbprosultanraydan45
    @ifbbprosultanraydan45 Рік тому +1

    Best episode ever, All the respect to Dr. Rabah

  • @hgh60727
    @hgh60727 Рік тому +4

    Great guests and wonderful people. After watching this sarde, I felt that I gained a wider approach on history, politics, and society. We are lucky to have people like you. All the best

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому

      Don't believe all what you hear

    • @hgh60727
      @hgh60727 Рік тому

      @@youtubeuser8027 I believe educated people , if you have another point of view please explain. Thank you

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому +1

      @@hgh60727 Educated people do not necessarily give you facts and good analysis. Sometimes they fail to. They are "people" so they are biased. For example, Makram posted some days ago a fake news tweet. Despite all the comments notifying him about it, he didn't delete the tweet. This is a small example of how political bias makes "educated peole" untrusted.

    • @hgh60727
      @hgh60727 Рік тому

      @@youtubeuser8027 ok it makes sense but why do you think makram is bias? He said we should learn from history. Let me hear your point of view regarding what he said please

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому +2

      @@hgh60727 I am not refering to this episode specifically since I didn't watch it till the end. I was talking in general that Makram is not that trusted speaker. My opinion is based on different past incidences where Makram showed illogical bias. Also you admired in your first comment the Sardin channel's guests, so my first reply was in relation to the channel itself.

  • @mariamoubarak
    @mariamoubarak Рік тому +1

    Loved this! Thank you guys ❤

  • @samim810
    @samim810 9 місяців тому +1

    سرده حلوه متل العاده، الله يعطيكن ألف عافيه. أنتم أقمارلبنان وفلسطين. و أنا وكتير ناس من العالم العربي فخورين فيكن...

  • @fatimadirani9834
    @fatimadirani9834 Рік тому +2

    Woowww❤❤❤ hal2a btjnin ! A lot of knowledge, history, .. so interesting!

  • @franco521
    @franco521 Рік тому +3

    BEAUTIFUL episode and Tier 1 guest

    • @sardeafterdinner
      @sardeafterdinner  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Franco! - Please e-mail us on sardeafterdinner@gmail.com

  • @mohammed-pl8zt
    @mohammed-pl8zt Рік тому +2

    شخص رائع أشكركم على استضافة مكرم رباح.

  • @MJDMFRH
    @MJDMFRH Рік тому +6

    THANK YOU FOR PROMOTING HISTORIANS

  • @yasminealmasry2303
    @yasminealmasry2303 Рік тому +2

    Incredible sarde!.❤️

  • @gianspina318
    @gianspina318 Рік тому +1

    we have all social classes at AUB it sounds like a pure delirium from M. Rabah....

  • @taimatammam9847
    @taimatammam9847 Рік тому +3

    Wonderful sarde

  • @WalidAboudargham
    @WalidAboudargham 7 місяців тому

    رائع استاذ مكرم ، عنوان حلقتك سرده ، شاهدتها وتمنيت ما تخلص السرده ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Julschiable
    @Julschiable Рік тому +1

    This is a brilliant episode, thank you! I've learned a lot and it gave me a new perspective on what's happening or what happened. In the end Prof. Rabah is right: We must make the decision of wanting to live together and then work on the necessary steps of getting there. And justice and accountability are the most important conditions to be successful.
    So thank you again ❤

  • @alessandrocolumbu
    @alessandrocolumbu Рік тому

    حلقة رائعة ودعاية كبيرة لكتابه والذي سأشتريه لأنه يبدو مثيراً للاهتمام شكراً

  • @namekarslanouk8396
    @namekarslanouk8396 Рік тому +1

    مقابلة رائعة .. و برنامج رائع...سلامات دايماً..

  • @noelle.zarifeh
    @noelle.zarifeh Рік тому +3

    very nice episode!

  • @JohnnyHarb
    @JohnnyHarb Рік тому

    Amazing episode!!!!!! Please continue to make episodes about the history of Lebanon and the Lebanese Civil War.

  • @ليلىعمر-ي3ف
    @ليلىعمر-ي3ف Рік тому

    ما أروعك دكتور مكرم ! كم نغتني بثقافتك ، كل التقدير

  • @farfalla4260
    @farfalla4260 Рік тому

    Azne akhle2iye, i vibe with what he said. Thank you for hosting such people. Enjoy sarde after dinner. Wish you continuous success

  • @koolword7477
    @koolword7477 Рік тому +2

    Great educational content

  • @khaledsaleh8241
    @khaledsaleh8241 Рік тому +2

    تحليل اكثر من رائع 👏👏👏

  • @eliebader1
    @eliebader1 3 місяці тому

    He did a drastic change in 21 days, he could have definitely changed the whole Lebanese cycle in 6 years!!! You don’t know him that much!

  • @nasrbadwan7927
    @nasrbadwan7927 Рік тому +1

    إنسان مثقف واعي مستنير غيور على وطنه، منفتح وغير طائفي، لديه رؤية لو طبقت لخرج لبنان من محنته.
    ألف تحيه له ولأمثاله.

  • @klmn1789
    @klmn1789 Рік тому

    Thank you Makram

  • @SasSbk-yf6xg
    @SasSbk-yf6xg Рік тому +1

    برنامج ممتاز ومعلومات قيمة

  • @للكلامبقية-ث9ر
    @للكلامبقية-ث9ر Рік тому +1

    سردة رائعة
    طويلة نسبيا
    وقصيرة ايضا
    كان افضل تقسم لحلقات الخ...
    جميل رغم عدم التوافق مع بعض ماطرح
    شكرااا...

  • @rabiaabbas262
    @rabiaabbas262 Рік тому

    I enjoyed this immensely❤

  • @maysoontughar6890
    @maysoontughar6890 Рік тому

    Loved the talk, very inspirational gives me hope in our nations ans people.

  • @francoismehchy
    @francoismehchy Рік тому

    it would be SO interesting to dig deeper into this student movement from 70s till 90s during the syrian regime

  • @msanioura
    @msanioura Рік тому

    just perfect interview ❤

  • @richardrassi3122
    @richardrassi3122 Рік тому

    سردة رائعة وغنية جدا ... شكرا استاذ مكرم

  • @alaanasr7505
    @alaanasr7505 Рік тому +9

    It would be very interesting if you make an episode about druze as a religion not as a culture

  • @agnessimigh4627
    @agnessimigh4627 Рік тому +1

    I enjoyed a lot this Sarde as well.Again, I learned a lot, Lebanese people deserve so much better than what they have to endure now.Wish all the best!

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому

      Not Lebanese, right? Don't believe all what you hear ;)

    • @youtubeuser8027
      @youtubeuser8027 Рік тому +1

      I read your comment before you deleted it.
      Sarde is biased. Most of their guests are from a similar political point of vue, while Lebanon is one of the most complicated situations that cannot be easily understood by an American/European. They also avoid some type of questions; Imagine they hosted a former prisoner in KSA (but he is now pro-MBS) but they didn't dare to ask him a simple question about his experience in jail, while they can make a full episode about a former prisoner in Syria. Funding, good lighting, nice voice and translation, etc... can make nice episodes but they can't change facts and sometimes cannot hide ignorance.

  • @xxxs8309
    @xxxs8309 Рік тому

    Excellent interview

  • @ahm911
    @ahm911 Рік тому +3

    As a non Druze who dated a Druze woman, this was fascinating. And I love Mr. Makram's pragmatic and in a way optimistic description. He is right, we need to strip down the myths of our leaders to understand how they got into the position(s) they do. As well as remembering that some of our conflicts are a drop in a long timeline of cooperation.

  • @WalidAboudargham
    @WalidAboudargham 6 місяців тому

    رائع استاذ مكرم ❤ ❤

  • @tonyantonio8596
    @tonyantonio8596 Рік тому

    Love your channal❤...all the respect to Mr Rabah.

  • @bako854
    @bako854 Рік тому

    Great episode

  • @sihama.8773
    @sihama.8773 11 місяців тому

    مكرم رباح ثروة ضخمة مضيئة في هذه الجغرافيا المظلمة ❤

  • @ayman2121
    @ayman2121 Рік тому

    Amazing ✨

  • @WalidAboudargham
    @WalidAboudargham 7 місяців тому

    تحيه لمقدمين البرنامج ❤❤

  • @bknr33
    @bknr33 Рік тому

    So interesting!

  • @samerghanem6014
    @samerghanem6014 Рік тому +4

    تحية من الساحل السوري

  • @nourbielal9120
    @nourbielal9120 Рік тому

    سردة حلوة و مكرم موضوعي يعطيكم العافية😊

  • @redarode840
    @redarode840 Рік тому

    حلقة رائعة.. مثقف تنويري وفاعل.

  • @randafarhat7635
    @randafarhat7635 Рік тому +1

    رائعة !! يا ريت بيصير مكرم sarde resident متل شارل حايك.

  • @mahditawil8127
    @mahditawil8127 7 місяців тому

    You are the best

  • @guilnarharb5849
    @guilnarharb5849 Рік тому +1

    I apologize Mr. Rabah I wasn’t patient enough thank you for mentioning the incident of the massacre that happen when kamal Junblat Who was assassinated and most of the victim was a Christian citizen participant at the social party and they were killed at in the ferociously……
    Amazing and very interesting interview respect to Dr. Rabah thank you for your invitation to dialogue between the Lebanese And your respect for others and different perspective I hope we can find your book on Amazon

  • @bettypapazian5940
    @bettypapazian5940 Рік тому

    Such a fast paced episode. Couldn't keep up with all the info

  • @سعيدالسعيد-ح7ن
    @سعيدالسعيد-ح7ن Рік тому

    قمة الثقافة
    راااااائع

  • @dorygemayel2469
    @dorygemayel2469 7 місяців тому

    Awesome

  • @lemon-ade3857
    @lemon-ade3857 Рік тому

    "روعة" أقل ما يمكن أن يُقال عن هالسردة..

  • @muradm9274
    @muradm9274 Рік тому

    من أروع السردات
    قد يمتلك المعرفة كُثُر لكن القدرة على معالجتها وإعادة سردها بصورة استنتاجية مهارة أجادها د. مكرم

  • @chahineatallah2636
    @chahineatallah2636 Рік тому

    حلو الحديث من احسن الحلقات 👍👏

  • @Ihavenolimits-qv3dq
    @Ihavenolimits-qv3dq Рік тому +1

    حلقة حلوه ❤

  • @AbdallahNammour
    @AbdallahNammour Рік тому

    من اجمل الحلقات ❤

  • @rasheedjalloul
    @rasheedjalloul 26 днів тому

    I think the speaker accidentally said that druze came in the19th century, which doesn't align with what he said later about the battle of the 18th or 17th century that gave power to Qaysis. Also the Abbasid caliphate ended in the 13th century. We would appreciate a correction on the era of Druze arrival to lebanon by abbasid solicitation please

  • @consultancy6434
    @consultancy6434 Рік тому +1

    There is a proverb in english: if something works, you don't fix it.
    The country that was born which was called Lebanon, and after it took independence from France, it was a very poor country, because the Ottomans did nothing to it.
    Whilst Lenanon after the French mandate it became a rich country, and it became rich because of the help of the French.
    Once the Lebanese discovered that their country can buy gold, they all wanted to control it.
    Mr. Makram talks about a relationship between the Maronites and the Druze, that was only in mount Lebanon, but not in Kesrouane, or Jbeil, or the north. Or the south.

  • @mariamsaab7001
    @mariamsaab7001 6 місяців тому

    والله انك انسان مثقف جدآ رهيب أنتا ❤❤❤❤

  • @djm3371
    @djm3371 8 місяців тому

    رائع مكرم

  • @nayefabuabeid3975
    @nayefabuabeid3975 Місяць тому +1

    اللبنانيون في كل مراحل الاشتباك فما بينهم يعزون ذلك الي سبب غير لبناني ، فلسطيني ، سوري، مصري الخ
    لكن الحقيقة والواقع ان البنية السياسية والاجتماعية والاقتصادية داخل المجتمع اللبناني هي المحرك الأساسي للاشتباك فيما بينهم

  • @adirice4636
    @adirice4636 Рік тому

    I might not agree with everything he says, but nonetheless he’s one of my favorite. Thanks for bringing him on

  • @faissalelosman5081
    @faissalelosman5081 Рік тому +1

    هيدا الزلمي عظيم!! حلقة رائعة

  • @ghassansafadi29
    @ghassansafadi29 Рік тому +1

    Great guest. All Sarde episodes would be much stronger if the hosts prepare and learn about the subject ahead of the podcast

  • @Ramibatal982
    @Ramibatal982 4 місяці тому

    12:54 During the 19th century, there was no Abbasid Caliphate. What I know is that the Druze community began to establish itself in Lebanon in the early 11th century. I appreciate if someone can clarify.

  • @sbleb761
    @sbleb761 Рік тому

    This sarde made me realize how ignorant we are about our history as Lebanese people. Our current history only dates from 1975 and a little bit before that.
    But there's a reason why we are so much divided, and that reason is not arbitrary, it had been cooking since israel came to the region, and we fell for it

  • @salemmosley5833
    @salemmosley5833 Рік тому +7

    12:58 *9th century not 19th, زلة لسان.