I think raising the boat is real. The rest is just an artistic way of showing her guilt and regrets. It feels very dream-like. Anyway, it's a beautiful piece of art.
To be honest, true Horde players understand the lore and the characters on both sides. The part of the community you are referring to, are the angry roleplayers with orcish names in their UA-cam accounts, that throw random insults and try to act cool.
the horde only have themselves to blame. Jaina was the only real ally they had in the alliance. their paranoia and poor leadership decisions brought them to this path.
There is so much symbolism in this video it's insane. The first off the necklace's symbol is the symbol of Kul'tiras and Theramore. The sword in the ground was jaina's sword that she thrust into the ground after the bombing of theramore. The figure guiding the boat is a duel representation of the ferryman from Greek mythology notated by the payment given in return for transport through, in this case jaina's memories of the dead, and her acceptance of her father's point of view from warcraft 3 that there can never be peace between the horde and the alliance. The ship that she raised was her father's Galleon. And last but not least the actual song, is a sea shanty from Kul'tiras that starts off with her singing in reminiscences of her betrayal to her father and people the middle refrain with many voices is the perspective of the Kul'tirans and the last phrases are basically jaina adding in her own verse rephrasing the words "beware the daughter of the sea" from a warning to the people of Kul'tiras of her betrayal, into a warning to the horde stating that she's changed her mind about peace and she's coming to destroy them. I LOVE this video.
It is the same boat presumably. At the very least it is the same boat that hangs out in Stormwind to take people to Kul'Tiras. The Boat has a unique model now too on beta. It is a recolour of the standard Kul'Tiran ship (more green) and has moss/seaweed on it from being under the water. This was the video I was least excited for because I didn't see what they could show with Jaina that would be new, but the minimalist and symbolic thing was great for this.
The Horde murdered Daelin Proodmoore's son and destroyed many of his people. Admiral Proudmoore saw the atrocities which the Horde inflicted to Stormwind (Warcraft 1), Southshore/ Lordaeron(Warcraft 2), and the Eastern Kingdoms. He watched in horror at the brutality and depravity of the Horde. Orcs allied with trolls and ogres murdered their way across the continent. He then saw them on Kalimdor. To him, these were the same aliens who descended upon his people with genocide. He loathed the Horde and could only see the orcs as animals stained in his son's blood. Then before him at the first battle for Theramore he witnessed his daughter, his blood, his baby girl stand aside as the Horde convinced her with lies of peace. He warned her. Begged HER! He pleaded her to stand with him. Rexxar then plunged his axes and butchered the Admiral in the most brutal of acts. As he died, gushing blood from his wounds he cried, "You'll (Jaina) regret this....Beware, Beware the daughter of the sea." Imagine being Jaina and watching the life from your father drain upon the grounds of Theramore whom the Horde promise never to lay siege again.... Remember Theramore and the cratered ruins of the city the Horde destroyed. The city Jaina partook in patricide to protect. Now she rides her father's flagship in memory and vengeance against the Horde.
Mehmet Avşar she is rather attuned to water magic; all of her spells involve use of a water elemental or water or ice. I don't see why she shouldn't be able to raise a massive ship from the depths. She's an incredibly powerful mage
I love how in the comment section of the official video, there are loads of people complaining that this song breaks the lore. It is a shanty sung by Kul Tirans about their beloved leader... of course it's not going to be 100% accurate.
I mean it is pretty true to how they saw the events of Daelin's death. And even if Admiral Proudmoore was wrong about wanting to exterminate all of the Horde, his death kind of proves his point, from their point of view.
Yeah it's kinda odd if you think about it, I play Horde myself but 17 ( should be around 17 years I guess but im not sure how much time passed within the warcraft 3 games ) years later the Horde did change in some ways but not in the ways it would matter to a point peace is an option for anyone. So Daelin was right in the end and Jaina just finally realised it.
In many ways that's the point. It's the song of a nation broken by assumptions, misunderstandings and the lack of being able to grieve properly for the death of their leader. It's honestly very tragic and heartbreaking.
I like how they used the imagery of Charon the Ferryman of the Underworld in greek mythology, to ferry jaina from theramore to (what i oresume to be) the final resting place of Daelins flagship. I dont think daelin was truly there as a ghost, but jaina imagining her having to pay the toll and travel to her fathers old ship, scuttled sometime before or after his death. And if you ask me it all fits bery well with the horror theming of bfa. Just the shear atmosphere of forboding. If legion was an action movie, bfa is a horror movie. And i love it.
What happened as I understand it was that she goes to her father's grave, took his necklace, used to invoke his ghost and tell her where his boat was sink, Then she raises the boat and tell her father, i'm listening now and he dessapears with his necklace.
I love your reactions, sir! This cinematic gets me so hyped for how Kul'tiras will end up as an overall area. P.S.: That's most likely the boat she'll use in the battle for Lordaeron.
This Jaina stuff both in BFA and this cinematic is almost enough to get me to play BFA on its own. Jaina = best character, laura bailey = best voice actress - all other opinions are wrong!!
Even though this shanty is heavily slanted to the Kul Tiran viewpoint, its still spell binding and bone chilling, so nice to see the return of Jaina, I have always been a major fangirl for her, and yes, that is indeed her fathers ship, and you are right, it is totally awesome.
I really like the method by which she found the ship. It's got a lot of cool mystical symbolism to it. She takes the medallion of her father from his grave, apparently called up his shade, and gave the shade his medallion. Then she retraced the final voyage of the shade, who would likely repeat that voyage as a lost soul forever. Then, finding the ship via ghost tracking basically, she summons it to honor her father, and have a powerful weapon too.
Heh, welcome to the internet I guess xD Not sure what else to say on that point. I know I've seen a few people say "He didn't say 'beware the daughter of the sea' with his last breath". They seem to forget this song isn't being sung by the Blizzard staff who know precisely what voicelines were used. In-universe, it's being sung by the people of her homeland. And like all folk lore and legends, and oral history, things get clouded and dramatized. They don't know the details of why she left, they just know she wasn't there when her father needed her, and thus he died. And thus, this song, vilifying her in a way, but also just carrying on the history of that fateful day in their kingdom's history, when they lost one of their greatest admirals. And then the final line, of Jaina basically foreshadowing that she's going to give the song a new meaning, as she unleashes her wrath on those who she feels wronged her family. It will no longer just mean "beware the daughter of the sea, because she's an untrustworthy woman who will abandon you." It's also now going to mean "Beware the daughter of the sea, because she will straight up destroy you if you get in her way." It's a fantastic bit of storytelling in musical form, that really captures the spirit of those old songs that were sung, and why they sang them.
That was her father's ship, and the creature on the boat is actually her father's spirit who finally can rest in peace, after Jaina's acceptance that she should've listened to him. It makes sense that Jaina has magical affinity with the water element; she was born in Kul'Tiras, a seaside nation, characterized by their prowess as sailors and their fleet of warships. The sea shanty in this animated short represents the Kul'Tirans view of what happened during the battle between Kul'Tiras fleet and the Horde. Daelin Proudmoore was a national hero, so obviously they consider Jaina a traitor for stepping aside and basically letting the Horde kill her father. The shanty is singed by the Kul'Tirans; it expresses their scorn against her. Obviously, she knows of this; she knows they sing songs about her and her betrayal. In this journey, she's trying to exorcise her demons, and come in good terms with who she really is.
Its really interesting how much Blizzard seems to be trying to humanize Daelin's blatant genocidal desire from Frozen Throne. For as bad as he was, his death threw Kul Tiras into chaos. And as we see in BfA, the wolves descend in that chaos and nearly destroy the country from within. Reminds me a bit of something Cersei says to Tirion in the latest season of Game of Thrones. So, he was wrong and clearly a villain, but his death caused many, many innocent people to suffer in his absence.
"Can she actually raise a boat out of the ocean?" Two weeks later Jaina flies that boat over to a battlefield, completely wipes away the plague and conjures cannons onto it to blast down the walls of Lordaeron.
I love Kul Tiras, it's so enigmatic! I remember playing through the Founding of Durotar Campaign in WC3 and still question whether or not killing the Admiral was the right thing to do. I mean I get that Daelin wanted to put the orcs back in internment camps but Jaina really sold her father off on that one! Pardon my Common, but Kul Tirans are right to see her as a traitor.
Gul'dan originally 'raised' the Broken isles from the sea. I'm pretty sure a powerful mage like Jaina could raise a boat. :) EDIT: This video takes place right after the comic. If you look at the swords they are the same swords in the last panels of the Jaina comic. The "Grim Reaper" or "Ferryman of the Dead" is symbolized as her father, Daelin Proudmoore who disappears when Jaina tells him that she is "Listening now."
There are a lot of things that mage can do that there are not in the game, Kael'thas was a fire mage and he could control gravity easily, Antonidas and two others Archmages made a force field that covered the entire dalaran and destroy any undead who entered. If mages could do everything in the game would be kind of overpowered.
i'm guessing her controlling of the waters is the same magic she was using in her attempt on destroying Orgrimmar using a giant tidal wave after Theramore was destroyed..... maybe that ability is not so new, after all. Perhaps now she has mastered it.
Ligerwolf Beasttamer She learned the spell to manipulate water elementals from Antonidas. While studying she naturally excelled with it. Even in game when you fought her, she had a mass water elemental summon in combat. She manipulated the elements of the ocean to lift the boat for her. Nothing new. Her mastery of the spell has improved leagues though.
His last words to her were "Maybe in time, you will understand." And honestly. What is happening now is proving Daelin right. The reason Daelin was like he was, was that the horde killed his son, Tandred.. Jainas brother.... And Daelin watched Stormwind burn to ground the first time.. he's a veteran of the wars... believe me. Daelin has his reason to hate.. and now the horde is only proving him right. No matter how you look at it. Would you trust someone who did that to you? Fast forward all the events up until now. Legitemately. There is nothing you can compare or say to prove to me that her actions now aren't justified. Without being viewed as out of your bloody mind people.
Well, Jaina is a very powerful mage, so raising some boat out of the ocean, I don't think is something beyond her capabilities. It could also just be a metaphor for regaining believe in her father's cause.
And hey one of that will be boss so i think sylvanas is the one cuz illidan aint boss at the harbinger same as khadgar. So jaina,azshara and sylvanas hmmmmmmmm i wonder
I think her fathers ghost is meant to represent the Ferryman from greek mythos.. where you pay him to get to the afterlife.. and you can see Jaina pays him, with the necklace of Theramore/Kul Tiras.. And when he disappears at the end and she says I'm listening, I think it's meant to represent the part at WC3, where her father died, and she says to him ''Why didnt you listen''.. cuz he always told her that peace wouldn't last with the horde.. So now she finally listens to him.. But that's what I got out of this cinematic.
i know you where probably thinking of something at the time, how did you miss when she looked back and said Father and referring to the guy behind her ?
I didn't...? I directly say "Daelin or the Grim Reaper." When, thematically, its both. Directly looks like Charon from greek mythology but its also her father.
Great reaction, I hope we will see a lot of storylines in BfA...some old,some new characters and build it slowly together. And it is ironic that Daelin helped unite The Horde in his actions...
Im guessing the ship she uses in bfa is the ship she just rose up like a boat necromancer and that being daelins ship also guldan raised and island so a boat is easy lol
I love the new Jaina too. She has tried peace enough times and the horde have always fucked her one way or another. Its about time she has this mentality and I absolutely love her character the way she is. I'm just worried Blizzard will say this Jaina is just pure evil so they Garrosh her even though she has every right to be the way she is. Also I think she is actually practicing Necromancy magic because that had to be her father and it would honestly make her even cooler if she not only knows just frost magic but also picked up some Necromancy to combat the horde, kinda fighting Fire with Fire in a case with Sylvanas.
I don't think she's practicing Necromancy. I believe all of the ghost imagery is in her own head by her PTSD and self-reflection. She comes from a land of Tidesages who have command over the sea, so its not really that surprising to see her be able to raise the ship up. You could also argue she did so with water elementals (Like she used to create the tidal wave in Tides of War).
The ship is definitely water i was just referring to her father standing behind her. The only reason I think she might be doing necromancy is cause she handed a physical object (the anchor necklace) to that ghostly figure in the beginning, then we find out it was her father as an undead. I mean maybe the whole thing is just a dream and even that necklace wasnt actually real (even though im convinced it was). Either way this was awesome and I love this new Jaina.
The spirits can't be real. Daelin Proudmoore's soul was taken from the Shadowlands by the Death Knights and consumed in Legion. Furthermore there's zero reference to a resurrected Admiral Proudmoore ghost in BfA at any point.
I think raising the boat is real. The rest is just an artistic way of showing her guilt and regrets. It feels very dream-like.
Anyway, it's a beautiful piece of art.
I love that song so much. It really feels like some colonial sea shanty. Kul Tiras has officially become my new favorite human nation.
I actually laughed so hard when I read your name. Almost got fired at work because of it.
Lol sorry about that man. Glad you like the name though!
/salute /bow /clap
I love the heartfelt expression of love of this lore....by Big DIck Danath Trollbane....rofl that name....
I think that like 80% of people who hate new Jaina are mainly horde players probably
im horde and I sympathize.
To be honest, true Horde players understand the lore and the characters on both sides. The part of the community you are referring to, are the angry roleplayers with orcish names in their UA-cam accounts, that throw random insults and try to act cool.
I'm forsaken since 2005 and i love that Jaina.
FOR THA HORRRRDE!!!!
But for real, I loooved this video. Jaina is such a badass. I want more Warbringers videos xD
the horde only have themselves to blame. Jaina was the only real ally they had in the alliance. their paranoia and poor leadership decisions brought them to this path.
LONG LIVE THE NEW ADMIRAL PROUDMOORE!!!
There is so much symbolism in this video it's insane. The first off the necklace's symbol is the symbol of Kul'tiras and Theramore. The sword in the ground was jaina's sword that she thrust into the ground after the bombing of theramore. The figure guiding the boat is a duel representation of the ferryman from Greek mythology notated by the payment given in return for transport through, in this case jaina's memories of the dead, and her acceptance of her father's point of view from warcraft 3 that there can never be peace between the horde and the alliance. The ship that she raised was her father's Galleon. And last but not least the actual song, is a sea shanty from Kul'tiras that starts off with her singing in reminiscences of her betrayal to her father and people the middle refrain with many voices is the perspective of the Kul'tirans and the last phrases are basically jaina adding in her own verse rephrasing the words "beware the daughter of the sea" from a warning to the people of Kul'tiras of her betrayal, into a warning to the horde stating that she's changed her mind about peace and she's coming to destroy them. I LOVE this video.
It is the same boat presumably. At the very least it is the same boat that hangs out in Stormwind to take people to Kul'Tiras. The Boat has a unique model now too on beta. It is a recolour of the standard Kul'Tiran ship (more green) and has moss/seaweed on it from being under the water.
This was the video I was least excited for because I didn't see what they could show with Jaina that would be new, but the minimalist and symbolic thing was great for this.
The Horde murdered Daelin Proodmoore's son and destroyed many of his people. Admiral Proudmoore saw the atrocities which the Horde inflicted to Stormwind (Warcraft 1), Southshore/ Lordaeron(Warcraft 2), and the Eastern Kingdoms. He watched in horror at the brutality and depravity of the Horde. Orcs allied with trolls and ogres murdered their way across the continent. He then saw them on Kalimdor. To him, these were the same aliens who descended upon his people with genocide. He loathed the Horde and could only see the orcs as animals stained in his son's blood. Then before him at the first battle for Theramore he witnessed his daughter, his blood, his baby girl stand aside as the Horde convinced her with lies of peace. He warned her. Begged HER! He pleaded her to stand with him. Rexxar then plunged his axes and butchered the Admiral in the most brutal of acts. As he died, gushing blood from his wounds he cried, "You'll (Jaina) regret this....Beware, Beware the daughter of the sea." Imagine being Jaina and watching the life from your father drain upon the grounds of Theramore whom the Horde promise never to lay siege again.... Remember Theramore and the cratered ruins of the city the Horde destroyed. The city Jaina partook in patricide to protect. Now she rides her father's flagship in memory and vengeance against the Horde.
Yeah, the boat-raising DEFINITELY happened. It's her daddy's ship, and she's putting it back in service.
jimboa20 as we know jaina has master degree at water magic. So she can easily raise a ship from water right?
Mehmet Avşar she is rather attuned to water magic; all of her spells involve use of a water elemental or water or ice. I don't see why she shouldn't be able to raise a massive ship from the depths. She's an incredibly powerful mage
jimboa20 I dont understand why people shocking after raising ship
I love how in the comment section of the official video, there are loads of people complaining that this song breaks the lore. It is a shanty sung by Kul Tirans about their beloved leader... of course it's not going to be 100% accurate.
I mean it is pretty true to how they saw the events of Daelin's death. And even if Admiral Proudmoore was wrong about wanting to exterminate all of the Horde, his death kind of proves his point, from their point of view.
Most of them probably didn't understand what the song actually means and how it affects Jaina either.
Necroxis I mean he was right as we’ve seen time and time again. Daelin the rightest man in WoW.
Yeah it's kinda odd if you think about it, I play Horde myself but 17 ( should be around 17 years I guess but im not sure how much time passed within the warcraft 3 games ) years later the Horde did change in some ways but not in the ways it would matter to a point peace is an option for anyone. So Daelin was right in the end and Jaina just finally realised it.
In many ways that's the point. It's the song of a nation broken by assumptions, misunderstandings and the lack of being able to grieve properly for the death of their leader. It's honestly very tragic and heartbreaking.
Awesome and clever reaction as always Necroxis. It's nice to see there are some reactors still with a brain out there.
Gul dan raised the tomb of Sargeras from the ocean floor. I am sure Jaina can manege raising a boat.
I like how they used the imagery of Charon the Ferryman of the Underworld in greek mythology, to ferry jaina from theramore to (what i oresume to be) the final resting place of Daelins flagship. I dont think daelin was truly there as a ghost, but jaina imagining her having to pay the toll and travel to her fathers old ship, scuttled sometime before or after his death.
And if you ask me it all fits bery well with the horror theming of bfa. Just the shear atmosphere of forboding.
If legion was an action movie, bfa is a horror movie. And i love it.
and the whole of Theramore was the price she had to paid
What happened as I understand it was that she goes to her father's grave, took his necklace, used to invoke his ghost and tell her where his boat was sink, Then she raises the boat and tell her father, i'm listening now and he dessapears with his necklace.
I love your reactions, sir!
This cinematic gets me so hyped for how Kul'tiras will end up as an overall area.
P.S.: That's most likely the boat she'll use in the battle for Lordaeron.
Thanks :) And I agree!
For the alliance lets goo!!!
This Jaina stuff both in BFA and this cinematic is almost enough to get me to play BFA on its own.
Jaina = best character, laura bailey = best voice actress - all other opinions are wrong!!
Even though this shanty is heavily slanted to the Kul Tiran viewpoint, its still spell binding and bone chilling, so nice to see the return of Jaina, I have always been a major fangirl for her, and yes, that is indeed her fathers ship, and you are right, it is totally awesome.
Proud to be human,time to slaughter some green Porks! BTW that happened, ship she uses in game is this one. ;)
nikola prcic lets go dude lets fuck em up . My blades is thirsty for some horde bloods
Cezar Corpuz kill the back bloods
How are you going to slaughter horde when your a 210 Ilvl lfr raider?
Alex Wells I'm PvP player,and just little pve for story.
its is the boat she uses in the BfL, that was her dads ship "The ProudMore"
The ghosts are in her mind, haunting her out of her guilt and regrets... As for the boat, you see the cinematic about it in Arathi Battle cinematic ;)
Jaina is a Jedi confirmed. Raising the ship like how Yoda was raising Luke's ship.
I really like the method by which she found the ship. It's got a lot of cool mystical symbolism to it. She takes the medallion of her father from his grave, apparently called up his shade, and gave the shade his medallion. Then she retraced the final voyage of the shade, who would likely repeat that voyage as a lost soul forever. Then, finding the ship via ghost tracking basically, she summons it to honor her father, and have a powerful weapon too.
Yeah I'm totally down with it, I dont really get the people who are hyper-analyzing the incredibly small details so they could complain about it.
Heh, welcome to the internet I guess xD Not sure what else to say on that point. I know I've seen a few people say "He didn't say 'beware the daughter of the sea' with his last breath". They seem to forget this song isn't being sung by the Blizzard staff who know precisely what voicelines were used. In-universe, it's being sung by the people of her homeland. And like all folk lore and legends, and oral history, things get clouded and dramatized. They don't know the details of why she left, they just know she wasn't there when her father needed her, and thus he died. And thus, this song, vilifying her in a way, but also just carrying on the history of that fateful day in their kingdom's history, when they lost one of their greatest admirals.
And then the final line, of Jaina basically foreshadowing that she's going to give the song a new meaning, as she unleashes her wrath on those who she feels wronged her family. It will no longer just mean "beware the daughter of the sea, because she's an untrustworthy woman who will abandon you." It's also now going to mean "Beware the daughter of the sea, because she will straight up destroy you if you get in her way." It's a fantastic bit of storytelling in musical form, that really captures the spirit of those old songs that were sung, and why they sang them.
That was her father's ship, and the creature on the boat is actually her father's spirit who finally can rest in peace, after Jaina's acceptance that she should've listened to him. It makes sense that Jaina has magical affinity with the water element; she was born in Kul'Tiras, a seaside nation, characterized by their prowess as sailors and their fleet of warships. The sea shanty in this animated short represents the Kul'Tirans view of what happened during the battle between Kul'Tiras fleet and the Horde. Daelin Proudmoore was a national hero, so obviously they consider Jaina a traitor for stepping aside and basically letting the Horde kill her father. The shanty is singed by the Kul'Tirans; it expresses their scorn against her. Obviously, she knows of this; she knows they sing songs about her and her betrayal. In this journey, she's trying to exorcise her demons, and come in good terms with who she really is.
I never really felt it before, but this video actually made me feel legit sorry for Daelin.
Its really interesting how much Blizzard seems to be trying to humanize Daelin's blatant genocidal desire from Frozen Throne.
For as bad as he was, his death threw Kul Tiras into chaos. And as we see in BfA, the wolves descend in that chaos and nearly destroy the country from within. Reminds me a bit of something Cersei says to Tirion in the latest season of Game of Thrones.
So, he was wrong and clearly a villain, but his death caused many, many innocent people to suffer in his absence.
Yeah attempting to build a peacful nation through bloodshed and war, totally not a hypocrite.
I forgot to leave a link to the original video in the description like I usually do, sorry! That's been fixed!
"Can she actually raise a boat out of the ocean?"
Two weeks later
Jaina flies that boat over to a battlefield, completely wipes away the plague and conjures cannons onto it to blast down the walls of Lordaeron.
This makes me more proud(no pun attended) to be alliance! Good video man.
daniel Moreno same here bro for the alliance
She probably does know a little of the Tide magic like the Tide mages they have on Kul Tiras.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I really hope we see a bit more of that.
Maybe she used ice as boyance
I love Jaina!
I love Kul Tiras, it's so enigmatic! I remember playing through the Founding of Durotar Campaign in WC3 and still question whether or not killing the Admiral was the right thing to do. I mean I get that Daelin wanted to put the orcs back in internment camps but Jaina really sold her father off on that one!
Pardon my Common, but Kul Tirans are right to see her as a traitor.
They definitely have a valid reason to hate her. Especially when you see what happens to Kul Tiras after Daelin's gone.
Gul'dan originally 'raised' the Broken isles from the sea. I'm pretty sure a powerful mage like Jaina could raise a boat. :)
EDIT: This video takes place right after the comic. If you look at the swords they are the same swords in the last panels of the Jaina comic. The "Grim Reaper" or "Ferryman of the Dead" is symbolized as her father, Daelin Proudmoore who disappears when Jaina tells him that she is "Listening now."
There are a lot of things that mage can do that there are not in the game, Kael'thas was a fire mage and he could control gravity easily, Antonidas and two others Archmages made a force field that covered the entire dalaran and destroy any undead who entered. If mages could do everything in the game would be kind of overpowered.
Not to be picky bit it is a ship she brings up and uses, not a boat. As ship can carry a boat but a boat can not carry a ship.
the Figurehead of her fathers ship was a Siren
The Warcraft Sirens (As seen in Tirisgarde Sound) are almost identical to harpies visually.
We will be riding that boat to Kul Tiras.
i'm guessing her controlling of the waters is the same magic she was using in her attempt on destroying Orgrimmar using a giant tidal wave after Theramore was destroyed..... maybe that ability is not so new, after all. Perhaps now she has mastered it.
Ligerwolf Beasttamer She learned the spell to manipulate water elementals from Antonidas. While studying she naturally excelled with it. Even in game when you fought her, she had a mass water elemental summon in combat. She manipulated the elements of the ocean to lift the boat for her. Nothing new. Her mastery of the spell has improved leagues though.
yep. my thought exactly!
THAT is the ship that we ride on into Kul'Tiras.
His last words to her were "Maybe in time, you will understand." And honestly. What is happening now is proving Daelin right. The reason Daelin was like he was, was that the horde killed his son, Tandred.. Jainas brother.... And Daelin watched Stormwind burn to ground the first time.. he's a veteran of the wars... believe me. Daelin has his reason to hate.. and now the horde is only proving him right. No matter how you look at it.
Would you trust someone who did that to you? Fast forward all the events up until now. Legitemately. There is nothing you can compare or say to prove to me that her actions now aren't justified. Without being viewed as out of your bloody mind people.
Well, Jaina is a very powerful mage, so raising some boat out of the ocean, I don't think is something beyond her capabilities. It could also just be a metaphor for regaining believe in her father's cause.
well, ice swims.
Harbinger were the short films from Legion, with Khadgar, Illidan and Gul'dan.
I know :P
And hey one of that will be boss so i think sylvanas is the one cuz illidan aint boss at the harbinger same as khadgar. So jaina,azshara and sylvanas hmmmmmmmm i wonder
I think her fathers ghost is meant to represent the Ferryman from greek mythos.. where you pay him to get to the afterlife.. and you can see Jaina pays him, with the necklace of Theramore/Kul Tiras.. And when he disappears at the end and she says I'm listening, I think it's meant to represent the part at WC3, where her father died, and she says to him ''Why didnt you listen''.. cuz he always told her that peace wouldn't last with the horde.. So now she finally listens to him.. But that's what I got out of this cinematic.
i know you where probably thinking of something at the time, how did you miss when she looked back and said Father and referring to the guy behind her ?
I didn't...? I directly say "Daelin or the Grim Reaper." When, thematically, its both. Directly looks like Charon from greek mythology but its also her father.
perhaps I miss understood, you looked kind of confused, I thought you missed what she said, my bad
lov ur vids man, keep it up
That is the proudmore , the kultiras flagship, her father's
confirmed jaina is a jedi
Great reaction, I hope we will see a lot of storylines in BfA...some old,some new characters and build it slowly together. And it is ironic that Daelin helped unite The Horde in his actions...
Im guessing the ship she uses in bfa is the ship she just rose up like a boat necromancer and that being daelins ship also guldan raised and island so a boat is easy lol
I love the new Jaina too. She has tried peace enough times and the horde have always fucked her one way or another. Its about time she has this mentality and I absolutely love her character the way she is. I'm just worried Blizzard will say this Jaina is just pure evil so they Garrosh her even though she has every right to be the way she is.
Also I think she is actually practicing Necromancy magic because that had to be her father and it would honestly make her even cooler if she not only knows just frost magic but also picked up some Necromancy to combat the horde, kinda fighting Fire with Fire in a case with Sylvanas.
I don't think she's practicing Necromancy. I believe all of the ghost imagery is in her own head by her PTSD and self-reflection.
She comes from a land of Tidesages who have command over the sea, so its not really that surprising to see her be able to raise the ship up. You could also argue she did so with water elementals (Like she used to create the tidal wave in Tides of War).
The ship is definitely water i was just referring to her father standing behind her. The only reason I think she might be doing necromancy is cause she handed a physical object (the anchor necklace) to that ghostly figure in the beginning, then we find out it was her father as an undead. I mean maybe the whole thing is just a dream and even that necklace wasnt actually real (even though im convinced it was). Either way this was awesome and I love this new Jaina.
Pirates of the Caribbean 3 intro
Nice video. Jaina is the best. *.*
Lorderon isn't on the coast
Yes it is. The Alliance land their entire army on the northern coast and march through Brill to get to the Capital City.
Lordaeron starts from arathi and ends at gates of ghost lands
Ok i ment the castle isn't its on a lake so crashing the ship into the castle is not likely
I mean...whelp...just wait until the battle for lordaeron :P
OF COURSE the ghosts are real! It's WARCRAFT! Spirits etc ya...YES JAINA can raise a damn boat...she is one of the most powerful on the planet.
The spirits can't be real. Daelin Proudmoore's soul was taken from the Shadowlands by the Death Knights and consumed in Legion. Furthermore there's zero reference to a resurrected Admiral Proudmoore ghost in BfA at any point.
worse reaction in long time of reaction videos
Thanks :)