I found that he would always talk over her while she was trying to get her point across, so she kept going anyways to finish what she was saying, as she should. Maybe it was just edited this way to speed up to video, who knows.
@@isabellaetenberg740 or maybe you are looking for oppression where there is none. They are clearly deeply excited by the subject matter and the style of exposition aims to convey that excitement 800 years later. Whether it works or not is a matter of opinion, but clearly that is the shtick they are going for. No gold for you in the oppression Olympics.
@@isabellaetenberg740no way you live in that reality. She's talking over him all the time as well. It's probably some early stage awkwardness and wanting to be quick and engaging with their delivery
Wow, what an excellent break down. For the record our Stanford professor has us watching this for reference in our class. Amazing work thank you so much for breaking this down so simply and in such plain, laymen terminology.
UA-cam figured this might be the next video I want to see, so I manage to catch a new one anyway. 😄 Good for Cimabue, ushering in a new era by daring to be different. I love people who march to the beat of their own drum and innovate. I can't imagine the skill it would take to prepare the wood, handle the gold leaf, and use egg tempera to create something so beautiful. If you gave me the easiest medium ever, it still wouldn't look like this, lol. The note about perspective in Cimabue's Madonna was easier to understand this time, lol. I'd make a case for him doing that intentionally. Perhaps it's meant to remind you that God is with you, but above you simultaneously. It's meant to reflect the complex relationship we have to the divine (which I am still figuring out), best guess. This was kind of a perfect ending to the Madonna series. I love both versions of the Madonna in different ways and wanted to choose between them, but rested on being grateful I don't have to.
valuable opportunities to compare and to contrast . Interesting also in how people have many views about what goes to make evidence of the early renaissance
At 5:55 I think the speakers are mistaken. They say that, because you can see more of the right window on the throne, and because you can see less of the left window on the throne, that means that Giotto is placing the viewer in front of Jesus, instead of Mary. The speakers did not explicitly make the following connection just after saying that Giotto is placing the viewer's focus on Jesus. What I thought was that Giotto's decision to make the focus on Jesus was in keeping with one of the conventions or themes of the Renaissance, in which people started to ''worship'' or venerate Jesus, rather than Mary; during the medieval period, people feared Jesus and were intimidated by him. This is what the speakers said in another video, or maybe this one. Point being that, in this painting, as far as the left-right perspective is concerned, if you can see more of the right window, and not the left window, that means that you are actually standing LEFT of center, which means that you would be looking at Mary, not Jesus. Stand up in a hallway, or doorway, or room, and place yourself in the middle, and then take a big step to the left. You will see less of the left wall, and more of the right wall. This is what it looks like in the painting. So, I appreciate the speakers for pointing out this interesting detail in the painting, but either they made a mistake, or I did here. Because when you are standing closer to one of two parallel lines, that are perpendicular to you, you see less of it. So, if Giotto is placing the viewer's focus on Mary, what impact would that have? Would that inform the idea of people's veneration shifting from Mary to Jesus, as it supposedly happened, during the Renaissance? Would you call this a medieval painting, not a Renaissance painting? Or should we say that Giotto's obvious statement in putting the focus on Mary, rather than Jesus, something like an omen of what will soon be happening? He's saying, ''right now, people venerate Mary,'' which implies that one day maybe people will not any more.
pov: u r watching this for ur art class
I just love how these two are so enthusiastic 😂
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I feel like they were trying to talk over each other, and it made it a bit more difficult to focus on the content.
I found that he would always talk over her while she was trying to get her point across, so she kept going anyways to finish what she was saying, as she should. Maybe it was just edited this way to speed up to video, who knows.
@@isabellaetenberg740 or maybe you are looking for oppression where there is none. They are clearly deeply excited by the subject matter and the style of exposition aims to convey that excitement 800 years later. Whether it works or not is a matter of opinion, but clearly that is the shtick they are going for. No gold for you in the oppression Olympics.
@@isabellaetenberg740no way you live in that reality. She's talking over him all the time as well. It's probably some early stage awkwardness and wanting to be quick and engaging with their delivery
thank you so much for taking the time to make these! not much else on youtube is as informative, engaging and culturally contributive as these videos.
Wow, what an excellent break down. For the record our Stanford professor has us watching this for reference in our class. Amazing work thank you so much for breaking this down so simply and in such plain, laymen terminology.
This is mind-blowingly good exposition.
UA-cam figured this might be the next video I want to see, so I manage to catch a new one anyway. 😄
Good for Cimabue, ushering in a new era by daring to be different. I love people who march to the beat of their own drum and innovate.
I can't imagine the skill it would take to prepare the wood, handle the gold leaf, and use egg tempera to create something so beautiful. If you gave me the easiest medium ever, it still wouldn't look like this, lol.
The note about perspective in Cimabue's Madonna was easier to understand this time, lol. I'd make a case for him doing that intentionally. Perhaps it's meant to remind you that God is with you, but above you simultaneously. It's meant to reflect the complex relationship we have to the divine (which I am still figuring out), best guess.
This was kind of a perfect ending to the Madonna series. I love both versions of the Madonna in different ways and wanted to choose between them, but rested on being grateful I don't have to.
valuable opportunities to compare and to contrast .
Interesting also in how people have many views about what goes to make evidence of the early renaissance
It’s amazing what happened to art in 15 years.
Cimabue shines a light, hence the previous age was the Dark ages.
Dim, so very dim.
Ognasanti also has a restored crucifix by Giotto and its refectory has a Last Supper by Ghirlandaio that was a model for Leonardo.
At 5:55 I think the speakers are mistaken. They say that, because you can see more of the right window on the throne, and because you can see less of the left window on the throne, that means that Giotto is placing the viewer in front of Jesus, instead of Mary. The speakers did not explicitly make the following connection just after saying that Giotto is placing the viewer's focus on Jesus. What I thought was that Giotto's decision to make the focus on Jesus was in keeping with one of the conventions or themes of the Renaissance, in which people started to ''worship'' or venerate Jesus, rather than Mary; during the medieval period, people feared Jesus and were intimidated by him. This is what the speakers said in another video, or maybe this one. Point being that, in this painting, as far as the left-right perspective is concerned, if you can see more of the right window, and not the left window, that means that you are actually standing LEFT of center, which means that you would be looking at Mary, not Jesus. Stand up in a hallway, or doorway, or room, and place yourself in the middle, and then take a big step to the left. You will see less of the left wall, and more of the right wall. This is what it looks like in the painting. So, I appreciate the speakers for pointing out this interesting detail in the painting, but either they made a mistake, or I did here. Because when you are standing closer to one of two parallel lines, that are perpendicular to you, you see less of it. So, if Giotto is placing the viewer's focus on Mary, what impact would that have? Would that inform the idea of people's veneration shifting from Mary to Jesus, as it supposedly happened, during the Renaissance? Would you call this a medieval painting, not a Renaissance painting? Or should we say that Giotto's obvious statement in putting the focus on Mary, rather than Jesus, something like an omen of what will soon be happening? He's saying, ''right now, people venerate Mary,'' which implies that one day maybe people will not any more.
u are cool
Compare/contrast @ 2:08
why are you whispering
We are speaking in a low voice because we recorded this in a museum where a loud voice would have been inconsiderate of others.
cool
this is amazing
So many insights. Thank you.
Wonderful
Good idea but can we please stare at an image for more than 5 seconds? Good luck!
We design our videos knowing you have the option to pause the video when, and for as long as you like.
Please slow down when speaking, art history is a marathon not a sprint :)
You can set UA-cam to slow down. I suggest 0.75 if our pace is too fast for you. Click the gear icon to control the speed.
@@Margarita1988 Calm down.