$1,000 372XP Husqvarna vs $300 G372XP Holzfforma Clone. Big Spruce Removal in Oregon!

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  • @leonidas7281
    @leonidas7281 2 роки тому +67

    I was a Stihl guy for a long time. Then the guy who owns the local Husqvarna shop backed into my winter beater Chevy truck. I got him to give me a 372xp for the damage.
    Love that saw. I rarely use any of my other saws now.

  • @aaronmonroe2886
    @aaronmonroe2886 2 роки тому +21

    Its worth noting that the Husqvarna 372XP you have is an X-Torq, check out the black tag. It should say 372 X-Torq, the decompression button on top of the head is a giveaway. Husqvarna made a 372XP and 372XP X-Torq, while sharing a bunch of parts, are two completely different cases, cylinders, and pistons with different porting. They share the bore and stroke. The Holzfforma 372 is based off a non X-torq, the decomp button is on the side of the cylinder. The Holz seems very rich also. Great video!

    • @InWithBothFeet
      @InWithBothFeet 4 місяці тому +5

      A year later.. yea, the chinese saw is running rich. He should have tuned both of them before doing the comparison.

    • @rowdybroomstick6394
      @rowdybroomstick6394 Місяць тому

      09/01/2024 just looked online at the holzforma 372XP and it's only 329 to my front door. Going to order this coming Friday. Winter is coming and I want back up wood heat again

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 25 днів тому +1

      @@InWithBothFeet Should have used identical, new chain also.

    • @codyabbott4791
      @codyabbott4791 22 дні тому

      Go watch ironhores' video, these saws scream if you advance the timing, they come pretty retarded from the factory, possibly to meet EPA

    • @OhEtSpidermanTV
      @OhEtSpidermanTV 11 днів тому

      @@InWithBothFeetWhy doesn’t The Holzzfroma Chainsaw doesn’t Have a Wrap Handle

  • @jetobey5656
    @jetobey5656 2 роки тому +102

    Jacob is my professor. I have studied his videos so closely and frequently that I have begun climbing and felling. Studying for my arborist certification. I am 76, but have always been a risk taker.

    • @D45VR
      @D45VR 2 роки тому +13

      What??? 76? I'm 74 and no way would I climb like that. But, congrats!

    • @theknifeconnection9571
      @theknifeconnection9571 Рік тому +2

      Absolutely amazing. Very happy for you. Congrats

    • @ReaganElite
      @ReaganElite Рік тому +3

      I am 59, and now you're my inspiration..

    • @lorenzodelatorre3983
      @lorenzodelatorre3983 Рік тому

      ×)

    • @gulliver3644
      @gulliver3644 Рік тому +11

      I’m 76, was an Army Paratrooper. If they made a chute that would open at 10 ft I’d join you.

  • @richardhenderson5342
    @richardhenderson5342 9 місяців тому +7

    I built a Chinese 372 from a parts kit. Upgraded the cylinder and piston to 52mm instead of the 50mm (extra $15) to achieve about 78 cc. Have cut TONS of red oak lumber with it and about 20 cord of firewood over a 5 year period. I did eventually have a failure. Scored piston. Cracked intake boot caused it to start running lean. Rebuilt top end and replaced the boot. Replaced carb though it was probably okay. Pulls a 42” bar through sugar maple on a saw mill quite well. I don’t use it to make a living but I’ve been surprised that it’s held up as long as it has. Best $300 I have ever spent. Just couldn’t justify the cost of a real Husky though I love them. Thanks for the video. I would also lean it out a bit. Would keep the clutch engaged tighter and wouldn’t dog down like it was. IMHO.

    • @DuriensBane
      @DuriensBane Місяць тому

      Did the same but kept a 365 bottom end for the crank. Cant seem to get the carb to run correctly but its a shelf queen for now. Hopefully one day ill get it running.

  • @johnnyshell2839
    @johnnyshell2839 2 роки тому +163

    "I don't always swing 2 saws while climbing trees. But when I do I swing dos huskys. Keep climbing my friends" lol. Twin 28s. That's boss level

    • @keeganaldrich404
      @keeganaldrich404 2 роки тому +1

      😂😂

    • @lukelegg9915
      @lukelegg9915 2 роки тому +2

      clever lol

    • @Cwgriseta15
      @Cwgriseta15 2 роки тому +2

      This has to be one of the best comments I've ever read! 😂

    • @charlesmosely6297
      @charlesmosely6297 2 роки тому +2

      I've got lots of respect for you guys that do what you do. I get 10 feet up a latter, I'm quaking in my shoes. But, where would America be if not for your kind. Thanks a lot for your
      bravery.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 роки тому +1

      Best comment ever.

  • @erichd9460
    @erichd9460 2 роки тому +22

    Like a lot of people are saying the chinese saw's high jet was really rich, which prevented it from reaching full rpm, and thus cut slower. Retune it to 12.5k-13k rpm using a digital induction tachometer and I'd imagine they would be a lot more comparable.

    • @twistedtimber3129
      @twistedtimber3129 Рік тому +2

      Mine was very rich on the high jet when I got it. But I’m at 5000 ft elevation too

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 3 місяці тому

      Keeps from blowing up the saw I reckon

    • @kdcustoms1272
      @kdcustoms1272 29 днів тому

      Rich is good for break in, my g660 was 2 ¹/2 turns out, I hear it should be at about 1 ¹/4.. so yea very rich.

  • @JL20231
    @JL20231 2 роки тому +59

    The OEM 372xp model you have is an xtorq edition, which is a strato saw like the newer 562xp and 572xp. The older 372xp OE or original edition is a traditional quad transfer port closed piston saw, which is what Holzfforma copied. Two totally different engine designs to compare, although the plastics look the same.

    • @donutt2383
      @donutt2383 2 роки тому +7

      That being said which is better

    • @DavidBergman1776
      @DavidBergman1776 Рік тому +6

      @@donutt2383 Most say the OE is better. I agree. Simply longer lasting.

    • @dontarguewafool955
      @dontarguewafool955 Рік тому +3

      I've had my 372 x torque for 5 years now. Never let me down, and I worked it hard. It came with a 28 " bar , full skip square grind. A perfect match. Even use a 36" bar, full skip square grind on it and it doesn't slow her down. I've used Opti2 oil in both my huskys also. That oil is worth every penny. I do feel the x tourqe is much better than her older sister.

    • @DaveyBlue32
      @DaveyBlue32 Рік тому +7

      The Farmertec cylinder is a chrome bore cylinder just like every saw built was… they absolutely need 32:1 and they will greatly appreciate a semisynthetic oil like that RedMax which is your Husqvarna semisynthetic oil… or a dirtbike semisynthetic…. You’ll get 20 years out of that cylinder with the Caber rings and good oil at 32:1… the Xtorq 372 is a strato charged or modern engine,,, problem there is you’re dumping your fresh air charge in to the front side of the piston and it’s mixing in Combustion chamber which is just a super lean condition in your cylinder and that’s where they burn up on 50:1 in a couple years… we cut a little pocket into the cylinder intake face and make sure all that air is mixing with our fuel mixture charge in the intake and not getting any where near the piston without the oil molecules in it!!! All the strato designs benefit from your doing that on their intake face!!! MS261cm will absolutely be awesome with that little assistance!!!! 40:1 is the minimum amount of oil and a working saw needs more! We run 36:1… 7 Oz into 2.5 gallons of 90 octane and it’ll burn completely off and leave no carbon deposits on your exhaust port window… the 372 Xtorq is not the best saw in the world because they have been running that bigger and heavy piston on the same crank and counter weight so it’s just not going to work as long because it’s eventually going to be beating on your PTO side bearings with a longer bar..,, plastic race’s on that bearing don’t help matters much… buddy of mine says that he would highly recommend that all bearings be a plastic race so when they go you’ll have a better chance of them getting spit through the engine then binding and wiping a topend so I’m still mixed about that as I have always been fond of the metal race and I use SKF for my saw’s for my bearing supply in town?

  • @wrstew1272
    @wrstew1272 Рік тому +7

    Really need to tweak the high jet on the Clone Saw. To see you wrecking that Sitka Spruce almost brings me to tears! The bottom wood is perfect for guitar tops, and logs are what is used for airborne spars. Straight up great wood!

  • @SamRicks21
    @SamRicks21 2 роки тому +23

    I learned from a wise old climber that taught me to put my climbing line below my flip-line so if you cut one they’re not together so you don’t fall out of the tree, stay safe out there brother

  • @NathanVdV
    @NathanVdV 2 роки тому +24

    well the original husky is the XT version, the FT version is the XP version. that's why the comp release is different.
    and the FT one was really fat on the high just for break in, next time run a tank or 2 trough it, open up the high jet till it reaches 13k rpm and it will smoke that original XT, at least mine does.

  • @shaner67
    @shaner67 10 місяців тому +3

    Gotta say you are growing on me. Have watched your journey as an arborist and see that the skills you have learned from the previous crew has helped you develop as a pretty good tree guy. Keep working hard and learning from each job.. Much love to you brother.. Cheers

  • @PatrickMedley-g6n
    @PatrickMedley-g6n Рік тому +6

    Consider adjusting the carburetor and the saw will run just fine, almost guaranteed. I've got one, use it pretty high production cutting and does as good as my old husky 372xp. They are molded after the older ones. Hopefully you are healing well since the accident that happened to Jed, stay safe

  • @fmiwlf
    @fmiwlf Рік тому +5

    First thought, Dude your an animal, LOL. My favorite part was two saws running at the same time and cutting two limbs while way up high in a huge tree. Truly amazing to watch! Thanks for the review. I read the more expensive Pro Holz has a Walbro carb, Nikasil cylinder and Meteor piston ring. They say just changing the carb makes a big difference. However, instead of a third the cost its half the cost.

  • @briananonymous724
    @briananonymous724 2 роки тому +10

    Terrific video Jake. I believe comparisons like this are of great interest to a many amateurs like me, and are extremely valuable for some of us. So thanks again.

  • @1d1hamby
    @1d1hamby 2 роки тому +65

    The Holzforma saw was very fat in the carburetor. It would be nice to see once you get the carbs adjusted and a few more tanks through both the saws.

    • @DaveyBlue32
      @DaveyBlue32 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah man…you really can’t get a very good idea of what’s up when you’re right out the box like that… you need a dozen tanks to get broken in and tuned properly and really starting to jam out! If you are really watching and listening to engine rpm’s…you can actually see them both beginning to gain rpm’s and power as they chuck down these two sticks… think he was running 32:1 no synthetic two stroke oil in the fuel mixture?!? I will say this about the Farmertec saw’s… if you have some good saw Machacic knowledge and ability… have been building saw’s for a little while… you can build yourself a decent tool that you can actually use to make money for 1/2 of the new oem prices! I’ve been running mine 4 years commercial and some other saw’s with Farmertec engine repower’s for over 12 years without a hiccup!!! When you’re self employed sometimes shit happens and your 372 or 395 is down or stolen and you have work that you need to get done..,a g660 or a g395 is going to get your jobs done and keep food on your family’s table!!!
      Really look at what John did to the g200T.,, that saw runs good enough to keep the business going!!! I just don’t agree with what everyone else does in their building.,, that saw could actually be a little less powerful…it’s more power than is necessary.,, and it would get a whole lot better fuel mileage.., sure it’s got lots more power but it’s burning up and not fully utilizing like twice the amount of fuel.., so that’s more sending it up and down to refill the tanks and getting less work done in that waisted time of messing around with adding more fuel all day.,, porting is about achieving a balance within the engine that allows it to function more efficiently and fluidly…. Just my thinking… and there’s definitely several different ways to port a saw and there’s different reasons to do that port and polish job! Stay safe in the trees boy’s!!!

    • @DaveyBlue32
      @DaveyBlue32 2 роки тому +2

      @Schwalbe_262 I’ve had the 372’s and 660’s for 5 years now… I have a real 371,372’s 390,395… my point was these are awesome very inexpensive backup saw’s… I’ve built 5 660’s with meteor topend kits on them and they all have been doing residential tree removal work for 5 years without a hiccup they run better than factory because they are all lightly ported with timing number correction and polished exhaust ports… when the $400 dollar saw’s stronger than your $1200 dollar saw’s… you might want to pay attention… they can be a great deal… the 5800 Jonny cutter’s are 58cc ground saw’s… they are awesome for a rookie… who’s going to beat on a saw… he’s killing a $150 dollar saw… not the $800 dollar ms261cm or 362cm…

    • @DaveyBlue32
      @DaveyBlue32 2 роки тому +1

      @Schwalbe_262 and those 288’s can definitely be built into a decent long bar saw… I just really like the 300 series models… 371 single ring 50mm bore is the perfect 28” bar saw… Because the husky has that turbo air filtration which slingshots out the fines and helps
      keep your air filter cleaner for a little longer… that’s why I run the Husqvarna saw’s… less cleaning of my air filter system… if It’s a single tree takedown then the MS460 will really be screaming… take me… because it’s got that power… my 372’s are the 52mm popup piston version so they can run with the 460’s! A lot of west coast faller’s grabbed the Stihl saw’s because of their 13,500 to 14k top rpm’s… faster chain speed so a little faster in the cut but a husky is smoother…
      hand file so I’ll run skipper tooth even though it’s not as fast as full comp…. Husky 371 is the perfect feeling sea!!!

    • @justinhcase830
      @justinhcase830 2 роки тому +4

      I agree 100% it's running really REALLY rich. That's some what a fell safe tho lean running saws don't run long rich saws just fall plugs my g372xp was the same way it was backed out a little over 1 3/4 all most 2 turns on the hi side it's now at roughly 1 1/4 is the low side was good at first but as it got broken in I hat to run it in a little. Mine was a bet worse thin that one sounds but if you tune it in you will have a hole nother animal mine will out cut my buddy's real 572xp now thanks to you t teaching me how to square file LOL he's still hurt over his new 1200$ saw Bing out cut by a old stile 372xp nock off but im going to have some more fun out of it before I tell him it's bc of how I sharpened my chain.

    • @cecilsink9901
      @cecilsink9901 2 роки тому +3

      Mine was real rich when I got it, leaned it out and it eats!

  • @jimhurricane5831
    @jimhurricane5831 2 роки тому +20

    I have the 372 Holtzfforma too! It’s been a good saw for me. Was running super fat on the high jet out of the box and didn’t cut to well, but after a couple tanks of gas in, tuned in the high jet, and it rips! Also bought their 660 as well as their G111 and man they run good 👍 Great video and thank you for putting these together for us to enjoy!

    • @jimhurricane5831
      @jimhurricane5831 2 роки тому +4

      That’s the one I got👍 It’s been cutting great and absolutely no complaints. Some minor things such as lose nuts or fasteners here and there, but amazing saw for the price. Wish I bought more when I bought them. Only thing is they do run fat on the high jet, but after a few tanks of run time tune that high jet in and they rip👍 That’s my experience with these saws at least!

    • @DavidBaumgarner
      @DavidBaumgarner 2 роки тому +6

      Im no expert but having tuned a few carbs on different saws, and those both being almost the same saw..... the holzfforma clearly needed a little screw twisting. there were no rpms at all... she was choking. I would expect em to run the same, just not for the same hours before needing parts. Cylinder and piston are not as high quality, and the other thing is probably just double check every nut and bolt on the Holzfforma to be sure its torqued.

    • @DavidBaumgarner
      @DavidBaumgarner 2 роки тому +1

      Oh I also read a comment from a guy on this vid that builds them from kits and he said they need a bit taken off the cylinder base to bump compression... that would definitely make a difference in lower performance ( probably in an attempt to keep it more reliable... may be a good trade but if not. get it machined down a bit. YOUR CALL) I dont mind something that needs a bit of TLC / tuning...

    • @bixby9797
      @bixby9797 Рік тому +1

      @@DavidBaumgarner Not a pro by any means but I noticed this as soon as the cutting started.

    • @FormulaXFD
      @FormulaXFD Рік тому +1

      How hard are the knockoffs to tune? I'm looking at the 372xp knock off for an alaskan chainsaw mill edging mill (I run a genuine 392xp for the primary sawing) and figure a knockoff would be a good fit for the job.

  • @Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws
    @Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws 2 роки тому +8

    So the real husky came from a dealership where they typically assemble the saws, service them, start them, & tune them. The holz saw came out of a box from china. The Chinese saws are certainly not for everyone, but if you know what your doing & can tune a saw & properly service it. You will be just fine. 👍🏻 I have several real huskies (& Stihls) as well as several clone saws just for fun. I’m more apt to modify the clones,(big bore, popup piston, porting, etc) like a practice saw lol. But they work and I’m getting crazy power out of them after the mods. And they’ve been holding up well… so far 🤞🏻. Stay safe out there everyone, & keep the good content coming. Sore legs after climbing with (2) 372xp’s??? Wow, don’t think I’d want to climb with both.

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 роки тому

      the clones are the same as stolen merchandise. if the slopes want to market to the US they should do so under their own brand, such as Chairman Mao TM. YOU ARE BEING VERY SHORT SIGHTED IN BUYING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE US CORONAVIRUS

    • @AkiSan0
      @AkiSan0 2 роки тому

      yeah, i think this wasnt the fairest comparison, though i think the copy held up pretty decent. the power was there (most of the time) and if properly serviced and ported it will do its job just fine for probably less than half of the price.

    • @Morpheen999
      @Morpheen999 2 роки тому

      @@AkiSan0 But how long will it last?

    • @Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws
      @Kirks_Custom_Chainsaws 2 роки тому

      ​@@jimnaz5267 so I noticed that out of 448 comments, most of them were positive, several constructive, but still positive. It is a shame that you are offended by content & comments on a UA-cam video. You may try relaxing and enjoying the conversation of several chainsaw guys & gals & people, all here just to comment & share their experiences. 👍 So if you have some time, check out the 2 links below. The first one is about: "Husqvarna China Machinery Manufacturing Co. Ltd. manufactures garden equipment. The Company mainly produces and sells mowers, garden tractors, and more." more, like chainsaws???
      www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/0389276D:CH
      and of course the second one is about Stihl (we all love our Stihls too!) celebrating 10 years of manufacturing in ..... you guessed it; the same country that gave us coronavirus as you put it.
      www.stihl.com/stihl-factory-in-qingdao-china-celebrates-10th-anniversary.aspx
      So, my point is if you want us all to boycott brands made in china, you cannot be selective, it has to be all of them which would include Husqvarna & Stihl. Just thought I'd pass that info on because i had no idea until i researched it about a year or so ago.
      Saw safe everyone!

  • @briansullivan1621
    @briansullivan1621 Рік тому +5

    Old School
    Tree Service
    A climber , 2 good guys on the ground, a good chipper & a mason dump w a homemade chip box !!!!!
    I cant believe how the business had changed and the amount of expensive heavy machinery companies have now 😊

  • @aus71383
    @aus71383 2 роки тому +24

    "Be sure to cut off all your holding wood"
    "Ok!"
    "Tree shape" lol what a great video, you're such a good guy Jacob, stay safe and God bless you.

  • @kenhubbard7355
    @kenhubbard7355 2 роки тому +10

    Hard to tell in the short term , I started running Huskys when they 1st came out with the 1100 before that Homelites and 090 no anti vib and a 36 inch bar the old hardstips, 395 was the last saw I packed we use to hop them up , dual exhaust plug the governors, put a 10 sprocket plane the calender and take the gasket completely out sprocket noise bar 3/8 skip tooth chain WE GOT SOME RPM OUT OF THE 395s I'm 80 now so all I got left is my close call memories STAY SAFE BROTHERS OF DANGER RUN IN FOR YOUR MONEY AND OUT FOR YOUR LIFE I've fell timber from KETCHIKAN TO CHICO CALIFORNIA ALL THE B C COAST TASMANIA AUSTRALIA SOME EXOTIC WOOD IN COSTA RICA AND NOW I'M RETIRED IN VIETNAM

  • @MedicGeorge
    @MedicGeorge 2 роки тому +4

    Seriously better than most things on Netflix. Thanks for your videos which also is a lot of your time.

  • @brianquigley7336
    @brianquigley7336 2 роки тому +10

    The early 372 's had the decomp valve on the side like the Holzfforma.

  • @jbc1042
    @jbc1042 4 місяці тому +1

    It's a great experience to watch these professional loggers performing their trade. ❤

  • @Altair885
    @Altair885 2 роки тому +10

    I've built a few of these Chinese 372xp clones now, and one thing they all need before you even start is the cylinder machining to bring squish down to an acceptable figure. From the factory the cylinders are usually a mile out and compression is considerably lower than is desirable. But after being machined and some very mild porting these saws really do come alive.

    • @AndreasBrOlesen
      @AndreasBrOlesen Рік тому

      To bring down the squish, do you machine the bottom of the cylinder (near the crankcase)? Since there is no cylinder head. Just curious :-)

    • @Altair885
      @Altair885 Рік тому +2

      @@AndreasBrOlesen Normally yes, but if you have to take a lot of material away you also need to check opening and closing times for the ports, as lowering the entire cylinder affects timing.

    • @AndreasBrOlesen
      @AndreasBrOlesen Рік тому

      @@Altair885 That makes sense. Seems like a lot of work. Definitely not a DIY job. :-)
      I guess it is worth the effort, the price difference taken in consideration.

    • @Altair885
      @Altair885 Рік тому +2

      @@AndreasBrOlesen You would need access to a lathe to make this kind of modification. It's actually a very simple operation once you've made a mandrel to hold the cylinder straight, after that it only takes moments to do each cylinder once you've done your measurements and worked out the amount to take off.

    • @BryanClark-gk6ie
      @BryanClark-gk6ie Рік тому

      @@Altair885
      Why not base gasket delete?

  • @bryanchipps6572
    @bryanchipps6572 2 роки тому +5

    I've been a Stihl guy for almost 30 years but those 372s are fantastic saws

  • @SotTreeService
    @SotTreeService 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Jacob. I just passed my arborist test and wanted to say thanks for your help. Really appreciate the time you take to make videos. I’m now trying to go out and start my own company and I just want some insight on what to get gear wise. I’m just gonna focus on spiking and felling. But there’s so much to get. August and you are my favorite guys to watch. Could really use the the help. Thanks brother

    • @fanosoX
      @fanosoX 2 роки тому +1

      Congrats man, just passed mine too

    • @SotTreeService
      @SotTreeService 2 роки тому +1

      @@fanosoX good work man

  • @crazyfeller5704
    @crazyfeller5704 2 роки тому +5

    My experience. Holzforma took about 10 tanks to break in, tuned REALLY rich from the factory. Not overly impressed with the torque even after break in, but it gets the job done.
    You should take it to John and see what he can do for poops and laughter.

  • @StinkyPete69
    @StinkyPete69 2 роки тому +3

    Yeah the china saw definitely needs some carb adjustment. Husky is reving out higher but both would seem to be on par with each other with minor work

  • @robconant333
    @robconant333 2 роки тому +14

    The Husky is an xtorq model with decomp on the top. The Chinese 372 is a clone of the non xtorq model.

    • @DavidBergman1776
      @DavidBergman1776 2 роки тому +1

      Was about to comment this. Not the fairest comparison, but for most it'll work as a good comparison.

    • @GuiltyofTreeson
      @GuiltyofTreeson  2 роки тому +7

      They both said XP on them when I bought them lol 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @sawboatsndarmwrestling
      @sawboatsndarmwrestling 2 роки тому +3

      @@GuiltyofTreeson they’re both xp pro saw , but husky has a 372 xp original edition from early 2000 to 2010 I think then they made a 372 xp xt ( x torque) they are an emission model, they’re both 5.4 or 5.7 hp from the back of my head

    • @dr7477
      @dr7477 2 роки тому +1

      @@GuiltyofTreeson xp doesn't mean xtorq. I have a 372xp and my dad has a 372xp xtorq. Xtorq just means emmisions nonsense.

    • @gyulatimko2075
      @gyulatimko2075 2 роки тому

      @@GuiltyofTreeson the x-torq has different in take and cylinder. Out of the box it has a little more power :)

  • @EasyMoneyCrew
    @EasyMoneyCrew 2 роки тому +40

    love these videos when you do the clone saws vs the real deal keep them up!

  • @thebleeb1681
    @thebleeb1681 Рік тому +4

    The decomp on the Holzfforma is in the same spot as the older Husky 371XP. I would guess is that they cloned the 371XP rather than the 372XP. I have had a 371XP since 1998. Best all-around saw Husqvarna ever made!

  • @cecilsink9901
    @cecilsink9901 2 роки тому +2

    I've got two of the Holzforma 372xp saws. One I've been running hard on timber and firewood for two years the other is almost new. The only fault I've found is the starter assembly is not very robust. They both keep up with my Stihl MS 460

  • @tamaslaki6770
    @tamaslaki6770 2 роки тому +3

    The husky you bought is 372 xp xtorq the holzfforma is 372 xp non xtorq ( older model) btw you can buy both xtorq and non xtorq at them :D also port that husky and muffler mod it you will be satisfied with it for sure !

  • @dougfingerson
    @dougfingerson Рік тому +8

    Enjoyed the video. Have a question. Why wouldn't you make lumber from a great log?

  • @wadebarnes6720
    @wadebarnes6720 Рік тому +2

    I'm done that kind of work for 25 or 30 years but I was a big boy 350 lb and climb trees all day. About the last 10 years they gave me a bucket truck took a little while to get used to it but it only went 55 ft which was high enough for a lot of trees

  • @lindaarbogast6499
    @lindaarbogast6499 2 роки тому +2

    Jake I love that you are not doing this one solo! Glad you have help with a tea of men who you know and trust to help you! Loved this video a lot.nice work!

  • @danr308
    @danr308 2 роки тому +4

    Dr. Hingewood is a pretty righteous name for a tree service.

  • @halbritt
    @halbritt 2 роки тому +2

    The Husqvarna is the "XTorq" version of the 372XP, which has strato ports and has been in production since ~2010. The tell is that the decomp button is on the top. The Holzforma is a clone of the original 372XP made from ~1999-2010.
    There are a lot of differences between the two saws.

  • @randyschock7374
    @randyschock7374 2 роки тому +49

    I think the 372xp is one of the best saws of all time.

    • @eugenecrabs3954
      @eugenecrabs3954 2 роки тому +1

      Nahh.... Either the Echo 750evl, or the Pro Mac 10-10

    • @Sandberg11390
      @Sandberg11390 2 роки тому +1

      @@eugenecrabs3954 +1 for the ol pro Mac 10-10. Way ahead of it's time.

    • @MrThenry1988
      @MrThenry1988 Рік тому

      Indeed.

    • @Sandberg11390
      @Sandberg11390 Рік тому

      @@fella704 No, nostalgia doesn't pay the bills. But being a Man sure does. Who are YOU to assume you know my body build type or weight, or career?Who gives a shit if it's 3 lbs heavier. Maybe you haven't used a saw too much, especially in a professional setting. But if your actually Working, your saw is in a fucking tree. How much is the weight difference REALLY at that point. You must of been just a groundworker, carrying around the real men's saws for them all day, that's why 3 lbs matters to you.

    • @Sandberg11390
      @Sandberg11390 Рік тому

      @@fella704 Maybe you do. I didn't say I'd Rather run around with a 1010 walking through slashing and fallen timber.. didn't even say I'd Rather run a 10 10 all day.. I said I agree that it was way ahead of it's time and an all time favorite.

  • @hanktownsend7911
    @hanktownsend7911 Рік тому +2

    I bought the g660 pro and I felt the exact same way up until this past weekend mid cut the saw just completely changed mid cut. I never believed the whole “breaking in “ stuff but it was a complete different saw the screams now .

    • @hanktownsend7911
      @hanktownsend7911 Рік тому

      @@fella704 🤔🤔 pulled mine off to go through it. I didn’t see any metal shavings weird

    • @amphibdriver1
      @amphibdriver1 Рік тому +1

      hank townsend----> How did it take for the g600 to break in and you felt a big difference in the cutting ability of the g600?

    • @hanktownsend7911
      @hanktownsend7911 Рік тому +1

      @@amphibdriver1 about 4-6 tank range but it was like a light switch

    • @glenurquhart2300
      @glenurquhart2300 Рік тому

      I got a G660 last summer.
      It REALLY bluddered through the first Gallon of saw gas . And drank gas like an old smogger 460 Ford.
      I turned in the high speed 1/4 turn for 3 more tanks. Then tuned it properly.
      At about 4 1/2 gallons of gas it Set !!
      It's a screaming machine now !
      And I used to bushel with Ace Morgan hot rod 394 Huskies.
      China Blue can definately bushel now !
      I watched this because I used to cut timber with 371 + 372s also.
      I think I'll order one.

  • @nepaoutdoors8536
    @nepaoutdoors8536 2 роки тому +1

    Those pro 372 knock offs are awesome. Higher compression and better flow. They srsly tear through wood. Holzfforma makes a 660 pro now which those are pretty cool

  • @SteelCowboy
    @SteelCowboy 2 роки тому +1

    I love my G372 “so far” lol it’s done well for a clone , working on upgrades now. But they have different carbs sometimes, there are good ones and bad ones. I put a fully adjustable one on mine, and did some porting, muffler mod next. Had it for a year and have cut 60 cords with it so far, zero issues. Yours sounds pretty dogish compared to mine even before porting .

  • @kevinbprice7448
    @kevinbprice7448 2 роки тому +9

    Ok, gotta admit I was wincing a little when you were running both of those saws simultaneously. I could only picture a kickback and ripping your forearm open. But all went well!👍🏼 I've got 2 - 372xps but have never run them at the same time!😆 one of them is 11 yrs old and only changed the air filter and spark plug...

    • @jimbusmaximus4624
      @jimbusmaximus4624 Рік тому

      @@fella704 The only time he was in danger was when he was cutting with the TOP of the bar, pulling it towards him. But you're right, if you're cutting with the bottom and it "kicks" there's really nowhere for it to go except jam up against the dogs.

    • @j.jacobson
      @j.jacobson Рік тому +2

      No chance for kick back bar longer than wood and no other wood in the way

  • @HerosRisingDevelopment
    @HerosRisingDevelopment 7 місяців тому +1

    No way! I work at the county and we have used DR. Hingewood before. Awesome to see you in my area!

  • @05victorylly
    @05victorylly 2 роки тому +3

    love the videos. the knock off was running WAY rich. wasnt making any rpm and was 4 stroking

  • @DaveJohnsonad5nm
    @DaveJohnsonad5nm 2 роки тому +1

    Best way to do the Holtzforma is as a kit. A quality top end and bearings and seals with a oem carb. It will then cut and run as good as a Husky. It will still cost half the price. Worst part of the Holtzforma is the plastic.

  • @rickstafford5316
    @rickstafford5316 2 роки тому +1

    Good info.
    I think you should tweak and run another tank of gas after.
    Good brush out.

  • @tennessee_hillbilly3451
    @tennessee_hillbilly3451 2 роки тому +7

    I just found you’re Chanel about a week ago, and I love watching all you’re videos defiantly learning a lot! Keep up the great content sir!

  • @samphilp9809
    @samphilp9809 2 роки тому

    I've got the Holzfforma 372xp. Needed a bigger saw for a larger job but couldn't justify or afford a 'real' one, nor the experience I have now to get a second hand saw. First few cuts it almost ripped itself out of my hands. After about ten tanks of fuel, I did need to make some adjustments to the carb. Ended up being 1/8 turn in on the high jet. It's held up after 3 years though.

  • @gruntlifetruckingserio8914
    @gruntlifetruckingserio8914 2 роки тому +1

    Husqvarna saws have really good torque an they are very reliable . I believe you get what you pay for . Like I said earlier I have Husqvarna saw that is over 20 years old . An it runs just as good as my brand new one if not better . It’s a lot heavier in weight but dam good saw . I used to be all about still till my dad brought home a Husqvarna an I feel in love with it

  • @DaveyBlue32
    @DaveyBlue32 2 роки тому +1

    Husqvarna was always supplying the 372’s to the rest of the world they only stopped in the USA because of the 572 electronic carburetor because of emissions!!! then people spoke up so they continued to produce it in the USA… that’s an Xtorq oem strato saw your real one that clone is based upon the oe 372 design with the lighter weight pistons so it’s gonna be a lot better on your crank bearings because it’s the same crank with a much heavier and larger piston… that’s why the Xtorq design beats on the bearings… if you remove your cylinder and do the 48mm 365 special on those same case’s then you have really knocked down your power a little bit but you have greatly extended the bearings life!!! And I’ll pull a 24” or 28” with skipper just fine…

  • @yungsmile7546
    @yungsmile7546 5 годин тому

    The Holzfforma desperately needs the carb adjusted.😂

  • @BrandonBigB956
    @BrandonBigB956 5 місяців тому

    Love Husqvarna saws! spent hours last weekend helping my dad cut up firewood running a 272XP on some 36 inch red oak trees. The 72cc saws really get down for the weight. I hear the Holzfforma Stihl knock off is better than the Husqvarna knock off as they have been making them for a lot longer.

  • @chethoffman1124
    @chethoffman1124 2 роки тому +2

    The cheesy dogs are for bucking. Allows you to use two more inches of your bar. China saws don't have any environmental limitations on the carbs and don't come tuned. When they are broken in you can tune them to absolutely scream. I have the G372xp and G372 with 8T sprockets and 28 inch bars. They are both faster than stock huskies.

  • @jakerubino3233
    @jakerubino3233 2 роки тому +1

    Saws Akimbo! Nice 😂
    Also, tree shaped trees are definitely my favourite shape! 🤣

  • @jasonmichaeljimenez
    @jasonmichaeljimenez 2 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate you showing your mistakes. Mistakes and things not working out are my life.

  • @kobselzea176
    @kobselzea176 2 роки тому +3

    I’m pretty sure the older 372’s had the decomp button on the side like the Holz( or the couple I’ve ran did but they far from brand new

  • @brianhawes3115
    @brianhawes3115 6 місяців тому

    At some point I moved from my 372 husky, and started using a stihl, then went back, that husky sat in the garage for over ten years, with gas, and I decided one day to see if it would start, and by god the mother started! Now it’s pretty much my go to saw!

  • @kennethstephens8046
    @kennethstephens8046 2 роки тому +1

    The husky is an xtorq model while the China saw is modeled after the pre xtorq model. My 04 372xp original edition has the decomp in the same spot. Mine even has the low top filter setup and heated handles.

  • @Bearclaw_Jake
    @Bearclaw_Jake Рік тому +5

    Maybe a silly question, but does husky oem parts fit on the Chinese saw? If so, it might be worth buying one. Especially someone learning to mod saws.

  • @ThePope406
    @ThePope406 Рік тому +1

    God... I remember the days of using the old brush bandit. And having to use the safety bar to stop/start the feed wheel constantly. It's nice not having to babysit our new one so much.

  • @theegoliath2697
    @theegoliath2697 2 роки тому +2

    Wonderful job on the music and sight seeing video while traveling down to Oregon! I Love that style of editing!

  • @jameskay7370
    @jameskay7370 2 роки тому +5

    Honestly would love to see an upgraded carb and a bark box on the cheap saw, I reckon it would really liven it up

    • @cecilsink9901
      @cecilsink9901 2 роки тому +1

      I've got one stock and one ported, hi perfect muffler and Swedish carb. It makes a difference

  • @timbrown2637
    @timbrown2637 2 роки тому +1

    You need to adjust the high screw on the holzforms. Also for comparing you need to use the same bar and chain.

  • @shaneelson
    @shaneelson 2 роки тому +1

    He swings two chainsaws in a tree, 100 feet off the ground, but cant talk 'cause he has sawdust in his mouth 😂😂
    Legend Jake 👍

  • @deej7783
    @deej7783 Рік тому +1

    Amazing to watch. Your rigging rope looks like the rope I used to make a Yale cordage I see you love the blaze!!! Good work brother I have few trees hanging over my house I need gone one maple actually fell Christmas eve on my home. So brings me to UA-cam try to learn something!

  • @nepaoutdoors8536
    @nepaoutdoors8536 2 роки тому +1

    Usually those holzfformas need to be tuned some before using.

  • @55ATA3
    @55ATA3 2 роки тому

    I enjoy the videos on the saws, and I like you just cutting the trees. Just enjoy your videos..

  • @peanutbuttersanwhich1488
    @peanutbuttersanwhich1488 2 роки тому

    I got that holzzforma 372pro. It’s a good saw. Only thing I have done is tune carburetor and everything else is fine. It starts every time and it cuts, no complaints here. Love mines. No joke it’s a great saw overall

  • @zman8884
    @zman8884 2 роки тому +2

    Saw another comment I agree the Chinese one was running a little fat on the high adjustment on the carb. Definitely not getting the full potential but still I don’t think anything compares to the legendary 372xp. Or 371 for that matter

  • @TheJanope13
    @TheJanope13 2 роки тому +4

    That's some nice timber, would love to run a few tanks through my saw non stop through it. Definitely think the clone is way too rich, wouldn't stop 4 stroking through the cuts. I think the chinese tune them extremely rich to be on the safe side.

  • @markfeasel9431
    @markfeasel9431 2 роки тому

    I worked for a climber.. ground work... He always had brush below the tree... To absorb the trunk wood as it falls to not dig in to the ground... He would also cut longer chunks.. like six to eight feet instead of firewood.

  • @rdstngry
    @rdstngry Рік тому

    Never thought about cutting a rope with an axe. I've taped and cut rope before, but with wire cutters, cable cutters or a knife. My electricians cable shears work real well also. Once when cutting 1-1/2" hemp I taped it nice and tight then cut it with a fine tooth blade on a Sawzall.

  • @silasbaird
    @silasbaird 2 роки тому

    I used to drive chip trucks from Shelton down to Portland and back and man is it a beautiful drive.

  • @TheF1shh
    @TheF1shh 2 роки тому +4

    The carbs on the chinese saws are REALLY hit and miss. You put a OEM carb ($100ish) and muffler on the husky knock offs and they can run pretty good.

  • @crxer89able
    @crxer89able Рік тому

    These videos makes me nervous but I love watching this stuff.

  • @djbigdawg16
    @djbigdawg16 2 роки тому

    On the way home you should have been singing "I got a pocket, got a pocket full of sawdust" 😆😆😆

  • @anton_mishchenko
    @anton_mishchenko 2 роки тому

    I have that china 372 for backyard cleaning, with 28'' bar. After 3-or 4 trees I had to put the walbro carb on it instead of "stock" - it was not really usable to adjust it every start, and then after it warm up - tune it back again. After carb and spark (just in case) change it became stable and predictable - I did not adjust it since carb swap.
    I can not say how close it to the original husky - do not have one.
    But as homeowner I can say it is sufficient to fell down and chunk up to 26 in diameter oaks.
    Just for the stats:
    For the last 3 months I cut about 5 thick oaks, 2 or 3 similar size maples, and 3 or 4 pines in total, plus quite a lot smaller size trees. 6 gallons of gas total burned, I run it on 40 to 1 mix.
    Main issue I had - starter cord broke 2 times, Plus starting it takes 6-10 pulls.

    • @zackeryhills1311
      @zackeryhills1311 2 роки тому

      28inch bar for backyard cleaning???

    • @anton_mishchenko
      @anton_mishchenko Рік тому

      @@zackeryhills1311 Yep. why not? For the trees of 2+ feet diameter.

  • @OldMotorcycleAdventures
    @OldMotorcycleAdventures 10 місяців тому

    I can't help but laugh everytime I see Enumclaw😂 loving the comparison videos!

  • @livewithnick
    @livewithnick 2 роки тому

    You bought a copy of the original non xtorq 372 and the Husqvarna you bought is an xtorq saw. Which is why the decomp is in different places.I’m not a big fan of the Chinese saws but they have their place. It definitely needed the carb adjusted.

  • @garbizzi6868
    @garbizzi6868 2 роки тому +1

    So we could buy three of those holsformanators for the price of 1 husky 372xp, the 372xp was a great saw for in the tree , very light good power. Weight makes a huge difference for me in the tree

  • @iraagans3144
    @iraagans3144 2 роки тому

    Jake they are lot cheaper to buy from other websites other than Amazon, you end up paying the middle man when you get stuff from them.
    American made wedges are about the only exception I found for saving money buying from Amazon.

  • @svenshanah
    @svenshanah Рік тому

    My 371XP has the Decomp button in the barrel, my 372 has it on top.
    I was told by the local shop who employs one of the areas' saw hot rodders, that the 371 and 372 were the same saw (never even mentioned the cc difference? ) with exception to the 372 having a little over a pound of extra plastic..which he said was odd because it didn't need strengthening in his opinion, he'd never seen a 371 that broke itself.
    I've always wanted to strip my 2 saws and one of these China's down to see what plastic injection molding differences are or aren't.

  • @johnsweeney3060
    @johnsweeney3060 Рік тому

    Great video, hard work on men and machines… was feeling the heights while sitting on my couch.

  • @bixby9797
    @bixby9797 Рік тому

    Wondered about these saws. I bought an $89 50cc saw to keep at my hunting camp. No where near my 52cc Jonsered but it cuts wood and I won't cry if it's stolen. There seems to be good and bad reviews of Holzfforma. I think if you tune it then you can have a decent saw. Occasional home use, firewood for the year and a backup saw for professional use.

  • @StihlChainsaws
    @StihlChainsaws 2 роки тому +2

    RITE ON😎👍
    That mistake went perfect & couldn't of landed in a better spot. It's really cool that you are testing these along side the real product, because honestly that's the only true way to compare them. Just all around good content.
    STAY SAFE

  • @larrywarner9314
    @larrywarner9314 2 роки тому +1

    First thing Jake that's an xtorq model , the old school style is like the holtzforma model

  • @srankin8022
    @srankin8022 2 роки тому +1

    The Husqvarna 372xp looks to be an X-torq. The clone is a early 372xp.
    The top cover is taller on an X-torq saw

  • @fuddrucker74
    @fuddrucker74 5 місяців тому +1

    10:18 I felt that in my toes.

  • @vincentmingo1903
    @vincentmingo1903 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video I was wondering how good the Chinese saw was and you helped me make my decision

  • @aborntexan
    @aborntexan 2 роки тому +1

    I think the Holzfforma needs leaned out some more. I have the same saw and the Chinese carbs they come with are very finicky. So far I like mine but I've never ran a real 372XP for comparison. I really love the price! LOL

  • @GUCR44
    @GUCR44 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man! Hope you are good today.. Thanks for the videos.. It's alot of work

  • @garbizzi6868
    @garbizzi6868 2 роки тому

    I just got one of these hulzforma 372xpz and i definitly was a little doggish until i got it tuned in with a digital tach ,i think at the factory they just make sure tbey start . almost like they keep em running a little rich and undertuned. On the otherhand the real husky 372 i believe they tune it to spec before they give it the👍

  • @AndyMohlman
    @AndyMohlman 2 роки тому

    Wasn’t expecting to learn about rope on rope action! That was no joke.

  • @gregmislick1117
    @gregmislick1117 2 роки тому +3

    The compression release on the Holtz copy matches my 272XP exactly - so they must be using up old stock of cylinders ( hmmm, gotta go buy a spare asap)

  • @thebombcat
    @thebombcat 6 місяців тому

    Hi Jake,
    Could you do a video on how you set up your climbing gear and rigging while you're in the tree and what you consider before you climb? Awesome videos man! :)

  • @DerangedSalad
    @DerangedSalad 2 роки тому +1

    yeah i would give the chinese saw an adjustment. theres a guy on yt, afleetcommand, who builds the holzfformas quite a bit and he turns them into beasts quite honestly

  • @DaveyBlue32
    @DaveyBlue32 2 роки тому +1

    I wish I had the opportunity to port that Farmertec saw …it would be a totally different animal!!!

  • @jamesmclennan3618
    @jamesmclennan3618 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic yet again Jacob would love to see a 881 vs 3120

  • @travisfuesler2285
    @travisfuesler2285 2 роки тому +1

    Been running saws for a little while if there's one thing I found out recently since I just started using Husqvarna used to only use Stil 462ms is those husqvarnas got a lot more torque we use the 390 XP and the 395 XP those are some cutting machines we deal with white oak mostly.