Why They Are GASLIGHTING You About Georgia | David X. Noack

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  • Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
  • Georgia is not playing along with the Neocon plan of becoming a second front in their proxy-war against Russia. The country is actively trying to escape the grip of Western malign influence through a NGO legislation which Western media portrays as "pro-Russian". what they are often leaving out is that Georgia has not even direct diplomatic relations with Russia and is it self thoroughly anti-Russian in several aspects. But since neocons really only can think in binary terms-you are either with us or against us-any non-compliance by pesky local politicians has of course to be framed as being for the other side.
    Listen to David X. Noack, a German political analyst picking apart the stupid narrative of the West and giving some real background to what is going on politically in the Caucasus country.
    Dr. David Noack, is a German Historian. He wrote his PhD Dissertation about the second tournament of Shadows in central Asia and he is also a great expert on eastern Europe. he reads and speaks Russian and has observed the political process in the states of the former Soviet Union for over a decade.
    Link to David's talk about his dissertation: neutralitystudies.com/2022/11...

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  • @neutralitystudies
    @neutralitystudies  Місяць тому

    Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Georgian Protests against Foreign Agent Law
    00:03:57 - Funding of NGOs and Government Concerns
    00:07:56 - Georgia's Multi-Party System and the Possibility of an Authoritarian Turn
    00:11:57 - Georgia's Relations with Russia
    00:16:09 - Georgia's Independence and Neutrality
    00:20:10 - Sanctions and Wealth Blockage
    00:24:21 - Economic Perspectives for Georgia
    00:28:29 - Georgia's Economic Orientation and Political Landscape
    00:32:37 - Georgia's Weak President
    00:36:36 - A Georgian Maidan

  • @johnhume4346
    @johnhume4346 Місяць тому +123

    Its crazy how the usa & eu are angry that Georgia wants more transparency.

    • @boost4774
      @boost4774 Місяць тому +28

      Because the legislation reveals who finances who. So far it has been done covertly. Simple.

    • @adz-ql6kv
      @adz-ql6kv Місяць тому +1

      @@boost4774 that's right. they want to use Goergia as proxy like they did Ukraine, and this halts their plans. it's all about taking down Russia and dividing the spoils. this isn't going to happen.

    • @dinf8940
      @dinf8940 Місяць тому +8

      @@boost4774 yep, this is somehow hopeful sign for georgia. after attaining certain level of control they no longer care about staying in the shadows

    • @Abshir1it1is
      @Abshir1it1is Місяць тому +1

      It’s anathema to western “democracy”. Your politicians are _supposed_ to be deeply corrupt and easily bribable by shady capitalists in a smokey backroom. The peasants aren’t meant to know who buys the people making the law.

    • @JJ_S-io1hq
      @JJ_S-io1hq Місяць тому +5

      I especially remember Transparency International in Georgia (partially funded by Western governments ) condemned the legislation.

  • @etunaeto
    @etunaeto Місяць тому +42

    There is no ambiguity in the law whatsoever. It's not a pro-Russian law. It's a well-written Georgian law and leaves no space for ambiguity. The Georgian Government speaks for the people of Georgia 🇬🇪

    • @NewOrleansSeptember
      @NewOrleansSeptember Місяць тому +2

      The bill, which passed with 84 members of parliament out of 150 voting in favour, requires non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and media outlets with more than 20 percent of their funding coming from outside Georgia to register as bodies “pursuing the interests of a foreign power”.15 May 2024

  • @roll-outcommanders6520
    @roll-outcommanders6520 Місяць тому +75

    This is the same pattern that has been played out by the US and EU in many Asian countries over the years. We see it now playing out in Gerogia and Serbia currently in Europe. There has even been reports of direct threats by leading EU officials to the current Georgian president Kobakhidze that if he did not comply with the Wests "wishes" by dropping the new law, he would end up like Fico. Any country that does not have NGO oversight laws will be targetted for regime change, if they have not already been regime changed. Wake up world to the new colonialisation process of the West!

    • @adz-ql6kv
      @adz-ql6kv Місяць тому

      i'm here in Georgia and the young people are completely brainwashed with whatever the EU says and everything bad is "Russia's fault."

    • @danielhutchinson6604
      @danielhutchinson6604 Місяць тому +5

      Georgia seems to be tired of being used?

    • @KitJBenn
      @KitJBenn Місяць тому

      NGOS and no constituency appointed appointee's European Commissioner's are all part of Government destablising overthrow culture!! The back door to Neocolonialism Imperialism!!
      The Western Elites incompetents are desperate for a return to the good old slavery days!! (Plantation owner and plantation manager relationship!!

    • @IliyaOsnovikov
      @IliyaOsnovikov Місяць тому

      Kobakhidze is a prime minister. President is Salome Zourabichvili.

    • @roll-outcommanders6520
      @roll-outcommanders6520 Місяць тому +1

      @@IliyaOsnovikov Correct, comrade. Kobakhidze is the prime minister and Salome Zourabichvili is an EU/Western plant who cannot speak the Georgian language and who never grew up in Georgia. Zourabichvili also was ratioed when she tried veto the current NGO law.

  • @AzizAziz-lc2qk
    @AzizAziz-lc2qk Місяць тому +97

    Why the hell would the Georgian government have to negotiate anything with the EU given they're not an EU member!!

    • @Jean-rg4sp
      @Jean-rg4sp Місяць тому +4

      To allow migrant workers to move to the EU for manual labor opportunities.

    • @adz-ql6kv
      @adz-ql6kv Місяць тому

      they are a now a "candidate" to enter the EU. they've been given a carrot and will have to behave and bend over for the next 7 years.

    • @uchennaabosi7651
      @uchennaabosi7651 Місяць тому +1

      Also the prevent EU sanctions on certain individuals in the ruling party.

    • @roll-outcommanders6520
      @roll-outcommanders6520 Місяць тому +12

      It seems that Georgia would like to "join" the EU. For that process to start, Georgia must drop all laws that will stop the political and economical "rape and pillage" of the country by the EU, comrade.

    • @Samaa-os7hx
      @Samaa-os7hx Місяць тому

      ​@@roll-outcommanders6520They already have EU candidate status😒

  • @4-SeasonNature
    @4-SeasonNature Місяць тому +51

    Georgia is waking up to the realities.

  • @merocaine
    @merocaine Місяць тому +32

    It's scary, in a globalised world a small country could easily be overwhelmed by this kind of external influence operation. It's like the pretender to the throne calling on the help of an outside power to restore them to the throne.

    • @Abshir1it1is
      @Abshir1it1is Місяць тому

      That is one for one what they tried to do in Venezuela. Juan Guaido wasn’t even on the election ticket. A pretender through and through. Just a tool for US regime change of the long despised Venezuela who committed the unforgivable sin of making independent decisions for itself as a sovereign country.

    • @Sandalphon777
      @Sandalphon777 Місяць тому

      Same thing "little hat" people have done for decades...difference being they're usually prone to "poke it with a stick" relentlessly until it bites back amd then they play victim like a toddler would while their parents were inside as they were "poking it with a stick"

    • @aliciaczechowski3281
      @aliciaczechowski3281 Місяць тому +1

      US just loves "a small country...easily overwhelmed". US has gotten all its "power" by overwhelming one small (or militarily weak) country after another.

    • @petermeter9890
      @petermeter9890 Місяць тому +4

      I guess nothing really has changed

    • @TheSpiralnotebook
      @TheSpiralnotebook Місяць тому +3

      Corrupt traitors wanted. Top dollar . Room for advancement.

  • @05cotran
    @05cotran Місяць тому +17

    Westerners are determined to form a public opinion in Georgia that suits their goals, and they are investing a lot of money and propaganda in this. This is what non-governmental organizations are for.

  • @patricklarsen8078
    @patricklarsen8078 Місяць тому +28

    The Norwegian ambassador to Georgia did not even know how much money Norway put in NGO's in Georgia. But it was "a lot"

  • @Sequence322
    @Sequence322 Місяць тому +12

    People protesting for less transparency is elfin nuts to me. It's crazy that people will go out and protest for something they don't know any of the details about.

    • @aliciaczechowski3281
      @aliciaczechowski3281 Місяць тому +1

      US pays protesters to demand, in essence: "WE WANT MORE BAD INFLUENCE FROM USA".

    • @prestonyoung3807
      @prestonyoung3807 Місяць тому +1

      Those are paid EU anarchists. This remains me of 2014 and 2019 Hong Kong riots

  • @elladowling2005
    @elladowling2005 Місяць тому +15

    Even if Georgian people wish to go to Russian side so what , that Georgia people have rights to do what they wish, parliament is backing them 😊

  • @toveirenestrand3547
    @toveirenestrand3547 Місяць тому +7

    The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) was enacted in 1938, so that was before WWII. And now when it is well known that America wants to overthrow governments all over the world, a similar law proposed in Georgia leads to an outcry! The (foreign) NGOs who are involved in this type of illegal activities (interfering in internal affairs of other countries) have now proposed that the government resigns and is replaced with a 'caretaker government' - ridiculous! ~ David X. Noack

  • @sophiemariekung5086
    @sophiemariekung5086 Місяць тому +30

    Wondering if Mr. Noack and Mr. Lottaz go deeper into comparing Georgia's protest to that of the 'No Leader Movement' in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Myanmar, Ukraine, and Georgia: To explain the plan of the invisible hands behind World War III geopolitics against China and Russia.

    • @aliciaczechowski3281
      @aliciaczechowski3281 Місяць тому +4

      Brian Beletic of The New Atlas has done a number of videos addressing US meddling in the internal affairs of Taiwan, Myanmar, and in Thailand where he lives.

  • @philipambler3825
    @philipambler3825 Місяць тому +14

    Go the Georgians!!!

  • @judithmackay7158
    @judithmackay7158 Місяць тому +8

    I hope Georgia will be able to resist the interference of these western nations and stay neutral and able to trade with whomever they like, this push to belong to on block or the other serves no country well, they all need to be independent and make their own decisions that best serve their people.

  • @MarinaZolotarjova
    @MarinaZolotarjova Місяць тому +14

    Thank you Pascal, you always have interesting guests.

    • @neutralitystudies
      @neutralitystudies  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks. Really glad you enjoy the conversations :)

  • @jamessmithers4456
    @jamessmithers4456 Місяць тому +5

    The Georgian President is a descendant of the defunct "White" Georgian nobility which fled the country at the time of the Revolution and settled largely in France. She was born in France, and attended French schools, and subsequently joined the French foreign ministry rising eventually to the rank of ambassador, serving in a small sub-Sahale country for 2 yrs. She has currently dual citizenship -French-Georgian ..

    • @Samaa-os7hx
      @Samaa-os7hx Місяць тому +1

      And she is cyborg.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Місяць тому +1

      These are who CIA send "back" as their agents.

    • @roll-outcommanders6520
      @roll-outcommanders6520 Місяць тому

      She also has been part of the French permanent mission to NATO, part of the French embassy in Chad at the time of the French coup d'état in Chad, as well as being banned from travelling abroad due to persuing her own agenda without the government's permission, Finally, she was impeached for violating the Georgian constitution. All in all, she is a glove puppet for Western countries and has been exposed as such, comrade.

  • @herbertsteffen5815
    @herbertsteffen5815 Місяць тому +8

    Where are these NGO's coming from. US and EU.

  • @americanexile
    @americanexile Місяць тому +8

    Look forward to Dr. Noack revising and publishing his dissertation for a popular audience.

    • @nkosipwl
      @nkosipwl Місяць тому

      He is a Dr in BS…

  • @susanarupolo2212
    @susanarupolo2212 Місяць тому +4

    I see that the EU is so easy to be manipulated by the US because has so many small “countries “. Also so many oligarchs.Thanks

  • @user-ge2op7ho8p
    @user-ge2op7ho8p Місяць тому +4

    "Never beg for anything, especially from those more powerful than you. They themselves will offer everything and they themselves will give everything." - Woland, by Mikhail Bulgakov

  • @connor1414
    @connor1414 Місяць тому +6

    Love hearing about politics in the Caucuses, central Asia would be interesting too

  • @galileo_rs
    @galileo_rs Місяць тому +2

    China has a free trade agreement with Serbia and has just signed another one during the Chinese president visit, so that club is a bit bigger. The president of Georgia is not just another Georgian born abroad, she was the ambassador of France in Georgia.

  • @betsyslaughter76
    @betsyslaughter76 Місяць тому +2

    I am so glad you are talking about this. My oldest son married a Georgian woman & currently lives there. He said it's very difficult to talk with people there about the Foreign Agent Bill because many are so anti-russian.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 Місяць тому +2

    Same thing happen to HongKong in 2019 , when HK try to install a "lock“ to prevent/protect/defend from U$A meddling

  • @paulmicks7097
    @paulmicks7097 Місяць тому +2

    Fantastic discussion to kept the world public informed.

  • @JJ_S-io1hq
    @JJ_S-io1hq Місяць тому +3

    The American State of Georgia also adopted a foreign agent law recently😂. But it didn't raise any eyebrows. "It's fine when we do it".

  • @johnsichounidis7881
    @johnsichounidis7881 Місяць тому +2

    Is there more authoritarian countries then the US and the EU

  • @NewOrleansSeptember
    @NewOrleansSeptember Місяць тому +2

    The bill is vague as your guest says. "The bill, which passed with 84 members of parliament out of 150 voting in favour, requires non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and media outlets with more than 20 percent of their funding coming from outside Georgia to register as bodies “pursuing the interests of a foreign power”.15 May 2024
    As a matter of fact why does he not quote the law if it's so vague? Seems a glaring omission from an "expert".

  • @mediastudiesnetwork
    @mediastudiesnetwork Місяць тому +2

    Highly informative :) a great and timely interview

  • @jamessmithers4456
    @jamessmithers4456 Місяць тому +1

    Scott Ritter has a deep and well informed and documented analysis of the Georgian situation

  • @Captain8159
    @Captain8159 Місяць тому +7

    Enestående!

  • @michaeltse321
    @michaeltse321 Місяць тому +6

    They should ask Russia to come and clean house lol. So my friend said.

  • @malaydhar917
    @malaydhar917 Місяць тому +3

    Well analysed by David. He should be given doctorate on this month ! 😄-bmd

  • @patinosndr6274
    @patinosndr6274 Місяць тому

    This Georgia situation between Europe and Russia is a complicated matter

  • @maremue111
    @maremue111 Місяць тому +9

    Schade, dass dieses Gespräch nicht in Deutsch stattfindet und dann in Englisch overvoiced wird.

    • @neutralitystudies
      @neutralitystudies  Місяць тому +6

      Stimmt. Hab ich gar nicht dran gedacht, weil ich mit David schon mehrere Gespräche auf Englisch gemacht hab. Eigneltich hätten wir das besser auf DE gemacht. Denn jetzt wird das Gespräch auf DE overvoiced. haha.

  • @barryshaw5660
    @barryshaw5660 25 днів тому

    Georgia wants to maintain some sovereignty for their citizens future, you got a respect that they’re under a lot of pressure

  • @julietaaboka3285
    @julietaaboka3285 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this refreshingly honest interview with such knowledgeable Westerner!

  • @ChrisHalden007
    @ChrisHalden007 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Thanks

  • @mohammadashraf1671
    @mohammadashraf1671 Місяць тому +1

    May be Georgians should consider the NGO Registration Act of India as model? Basically state bodies should know about the origin, objectives, amount of the foreign funds of the NGOs. Also need regular audits on how these funds were utilized. This is the basic elements of financial transparency.

  • @megthornton1371
    @megthornton1371 Місяць тому +8

    The NGOs are not in charge

    • @huwpatt3817
      @huwpatt3817 Місяць тому +2

      Interesting that they r
      fronts 4 oligarchs

    • @dinf8940
      @dinf8940 Місяць тому +6

      course not, thats not their function. puppets need to be visible in charge - 'driving the car' so to speak, ngo just serve as the traffic signs that limit where and how those drivers can go

  • @PubliusUSA
    @PubliusUSA 23 дні тому

    Thanks!

    • @neutralitystudies
      @neutralitystudies  23 дні тому +1

      Oh wow! Thank you so much!! The support is really fantastic and very much appreciated!!

  • @johnsichounidis7881
    @johnsichounidis7881 Місяць тому +2

    Do as a say not as i do

  • @nicolasjuandecardenas7921
    @nicolasjuandecardenas7921 Місяць тому

    has there ever been a period in modern history were one country has demanded a certain behaviour from another country without a treaty or diplomatic negotiations?

  • @redwine2664
    @redwine2664 Місяць тому +1

    Two years ago I was dinning somewhere in the Mediterranean, there restaurant all the staff were Georgian. My waitress who served me, I thanked her in Russian, and her reply, "That is Russian"! Go figure.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Місяць тому +1

      Let those who love the West live in the West.

    • @redwine2664
      @redwine2664 Місяць тому

      @@crhu319 Lol the funny thing, the island were I was vacationing, benefited from exporting its citizens to the four corners of the globe, 70 years ago. Presently because tourism is their main bread and butter, the exploitation of eastern Europeans, as cheap labor including that waitress from Georgia, has become the norm! The locals do not want to do that work and other various labor. The day I landed at the airport, I thought I took the wrong flight because the ground crew at the airport were Filipinos!

    • @petardetar5191
      @petardetar5191 28 днів тому

      Until the problem with Russia, most of Georgians were speaking Russian only, but after a conflict they become hostile against Russia, same thing like Ukraine, now. But I can bet that at home they still speak Russian :)
      Had a coworker here in Canada who recently came from western Ukraine, I spoke to him on Russian and he is answering me on bad and broken English hard to understand, after we finished talk, his wife was calling him on cellphone and they were speaking on Russian :) ha, ha !
      So much about them !

  • @bjabbbjabb1286
    @bjabbbjabb1286 Місяць тому +1

    Its never the governments.

  • @Gmx92
    @Gmx92 Місяць тому

    This was very interesting, you really helped me to connect the dots on what I already knew about the situation

  • @alanhamford2538
    @alanhamford2538 Місяць тому +7

    Some peeps are muchly envious of Ukraine.

  • @davidotness6199
    @davidotness6199 Місяць тому +1

    I shared this on other platforms, it is an excellent presentation, but unfortunately the opening segment left me confused as to what its long form content would be. In other words, it was a bad choice to start with "...The Georgians always voted to condemn the Russian aggression in Ukraine..."
    I think starting it in mid-sentence without any previous context, I think it might be off-putting for its ambiguity, especially as Russia was baited into inevitably defending its own ethnic Russians in the Donbass. You can do better.

  • @jamesdewane1642
    @jamesdewane1642 Місяць тому

    3.7 million people in Georgia.

  • @BanzoUnchained
    @BanzoUnchained Місяць тому

    Interesting guest

  • @Samaa-os7hx
    @Samaa-os7hx Місяць тому

    How is it David doesn't know about Tegeta Motors and that Georgia is home of wine? 😂

  • @johnk949
    @johnk949 Місяць тому

    Smarter then my fellow Armenians in this regard.

  • @stavrosk.2868
    @stavrosk.2868 Місяць тому +3

    Interesting but please mr Noack, communicate more clearly and with less tangents.

  • @janineskywalker527
    @janineskywalker527 Місяць тому +1

    Sorry the sound is disjointed. Difficult to hear. J

  • @wynetsang
    @wynetsang Місяць тому

    Gaslighting is education.

  • @Free2BHuman
    @Free2BHuman Місяць тому +1

    Desperation (oh no) will🇺🇲device schemes to be come Georgia actual law makers.....underhand no zero regard always amount to the best laugh💯the arrogance 🇺🇲🇮🇱......keep the faith just observe💪

  • @russellk.bonney8534
    @russellk.bonney8534 Місяць тому +1

    Neolibs.

  • @prestonyoung3807
    @prestonyoung3807 Місяць тому

    When is transparency a crime😂?

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 Місяць тому +2

    U$A has the same law , but its policy is like ...
    "Itself can install lock for its house , but Georgia cannot install lock to prevent/protect/defend from U$A meddling "

  • @peetsnort
    @peetsnort Місяць тому +3

    There's a new choice for an American president.
    Professor michael Recktenwalt
    He's a libertarian
    I think its going to be americas redemption

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 Місяць тому

      Fuck no. Libertarians are everything that made this mess, on steroids.
      Same old same old capitalist crap, wearing a shiny new coat.

    • @macrosense
      @macrosense Місяць тому +2

      I do not take libertarian ideology seriously.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 Місяць тому

      He should have been campaigning for much longer. There are 3 more visible 3rd party candidates now...

  • @alxdava2004
    @alxdava2004 Місяць тому +3

    Moldova is a Romanian territory along with the space between Danube and Moldova and north of Moldova.

  • @walterjohnson6357
    @walterjohnson6357 Місяць тому

    Trust the people on the streets of Tbilisi. They know better than experts on podcasts.

  • @dianal3542
    @dianal3542 Місяць тому +3

    Georgia is not pro-Russian. Georgian government is.

    • @adz-ql6kv
      @adz-ql6kv Місяць тому

      and who votes for this government? exactly. I mostly see young people protesting on the street and they don't really understand what for. "Russia is evil and EU/West will save us. we want freedom and democracy!" just propaganda and emotional anger. they are not looking at what's being proposed with any logic which will be their downfall.

    • @marcobsomer5574
      @marcobsomer5574 Місяць тому +5

      Staline venait d'où ? de la lune ?

    • @LightCrasher
      @LightCrasher Місяць тому +8

      If Georgia is not pro-Russian, then its a big mistake by Georgia. The closer the country is to you, the better relations you should have, especially if its bigger and stronger country. Just look at Bbelarus, they prosper, despite all the pressure. And then look at EU that gets riped off by the US.