The Pilot who defied Hitler - Hans Joachim Marseille - Forgotten History
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- During WW I fighter pilots were a new type of warrior, and they became national heroes. The same occurred in WW II, and like their predecessors, a few became legendary. One was a German, Luftwaffe Captain Hans-Joachim Marseille, known as The Star of Africa. Hosted by Colin D. Heaton. Forgotten History is a 10th Legion Pictures Production.
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Takes a certain level of personal courage to stand up for truth, especially nowadays.
You know it. Excellent comment.
Amen
"In an age of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell
No it used to be harder to stand up for the truth . Back then superiors where able to punish underlings severely because civil rights laws where very weak there where no snowflake protection policies like now.
@@peterloichtl4512 whistle blower policies or 'snowflake' policies were integrated into organizations because of the shut up and do it mentality. If someone sees something, they should be protected in reporting it, with no worry of retaliation. Not all progressive policies are bad. 'The measure of intelligence is the ability to change' - Einstein
Best story - As Marseille was getting the award from Hitler, Hitler stated "I heard you have had over 100 victories", Marseille asked "Women or planes?"
I love it. That is the best!
It was to Goering. Not hitler
God tier human being Marseille was!
Hitler: "Were they all Aryan?" 😅
Un crack
Wow that was an incredible story! Germans are often portrayed as if they were carbon copies of their leaders. It's great to hear a story of a German pilot that had heart and compassion for his enemy and yet still fought with such honor. Thank you very much, I'll tell you how much I like the book after I read it.
You must do your duty to your country, anyone who tells you that you have to loose your humanity to do so is the scurge of any military.What do have if you gain the world but loose your soul.
The Germans had everything that we know as modern technology of war ,all of them.Much of our moral superiority was lost when we embraced many Germans after the war.Not all were honorable men, although the children of them that I grew up around seemed to be.We have been controlled by those less honorable.They escaped scrutiny in 3-letter agencies, dragging us towards hell with them.Time we called it out and humbled ourselves as to our transgressions.Admit we may have been led down a dark road and turn on the light.Things like Paradise CA. and Mauwi Hawaii should never be allowed on earth,much less the United States.Push the evil from within our midsts.
Thanks for watching
Hollywood movies always have to make them seem like cold-hearted SOBs (e.g. Red Tails with that nasty looking pilot in the Me 109); I guess it's easier to hate the "bad guy" if you believe he's a monster. I hope Masters of the Air doesn't follow this same non-sense. The Battle of Britain movie did probably the most realistic portrayal of the Luftwaffe pilots, which were not much different for the Allied pilots, which is probably why numerous Luftwaffe aces became friends with British and US pilots after WW2.
He refused at first to be any part of the German army until his dad or step dad forced him to do it by threatening him ( some people believe his mom and sisters life was threatened of he didn't)
Many years ago I watched a South Africa report/opinion on HJ Marseille, they spoke of him in very respectful terms too.
Douglas Cecil Golding, whom Marseilles shot down in the same mission as Botha and Pare (all aces), still called Marseille "The Bastard" but acknowledged his skill.
What a chivalrous and honorable man. Let alone an incredibly skilled pilot.
The real Top Gun. There should be a non biased, no politics/woke, movie about this story ASAP.
Working on a 10 part series.
Royale7620 there is the movie "The Star of Africa" from the 50s. Nitvphatetic, no Nonsens. Take a look at it.
BR from Germany
The switch of aircraft was his downfall. Like a track star not being allowed to run in his favorite shoes at the most important race of his life.
I read about this fine wild young " radical " pilot ; with a soul. The man that escorted a wounded US AIR CORPS bomber back to the English Channel , was a friend of this man and remarked upon in Africa , and the East how this pilot constantly walked to his own moral compass , I have deep admiration for any fighter pilot , or pilots and crew , that thought about HONOR and the Human costs .... to their enemies as well as their own people during this huge war that wrung - out ... the humanity of many men on BOTH sides.
Even in the crucible , of madness in War ... there is a duty to be Human. Joachim Marseille is such a notable and honorable man. God be with him . 🇺🇸
Franz Stigler. I know about him from Adam Makos’s book No Higher Call.
Adam and I have been friends for years, and I helped him with the book, we help each other
Probably after they bombed Dresden.
What a talent & what a decent principled man. He was considered a maverick & a rebel due to his antics & radical tastes like his love of jazz😆 Yeah jazz was considered radical. He was a naturally gifted pilot & ace. He was a gallant warrior & truly a chivalrous gentlemen much like Adolf Galland. He died accidentally when he bailed out & hit the fuselage. As we know the Germans had no rotations like the Allies. Their feats of thousands of missions is insane. It must have been exhausting. Aces like Erich Hartmann, Werner Molders, Adolf Galland & Hans-Joachim are legends for their prowess & flying records which will in all probability never be matched again.
Thanks for the awesome video.🙂👍
You hear about fighter pilots being a different breed, but this man was truly unique. Brave, honorable, and and above all else, unpredictable.
Great story, My father tolded me about this guy way back in 1960s. Marseille is the German Version of Steve Mcqueen in the Great Escape but never getting captured. Yes he was a Mensch. We need this type of courage now.
Professor Heaton, when will your updated book on German, Luftwaffe Captain Hans-Joachim Marseille be available? So looking forward to that!!! Awesome!
We are currently working the contract details now.
Great show! I’m impressed with this warrior recognized by many Nations! Keep up your great reporting!
I am glad you made this. Marseille was incredibly cool.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You should also do a show on the Wehrmacht officer who also defied the Mr A H man- Bogislaw von Bonin, the Wehrmacht officer refused to obey the infamous Commando Order who was apart of a group of high-profile hostages like the former chancellor of Austria & the grandson of Guiseppe Garibaldi at Dachau to be used a bargaining chips. When the war changed, the SS moved both him & the other hostages they were moved into South Tyrol, Northern Italy to be used by a SS to bargain with the Allies until von Bonin outwitted them and escaped with the hostages to safety. Its a truly great story that you’ll enjoy researching Colin.
Not really especially brave to do that during the last weeks when everything was in free fall, rather opportunistic way to ingratiate himself to the victors in fact.
He would have been convicted of treason by any Western court if he’d done the same with Western hostages(there were many such cases).
@@Br1cht he refused to carry out the Commando Order which go him sent to Dachau as one of the hostages. He then outwitted their SS guards and freed the hostages. That’s pretty brave.
@Br1cht Had he been in western custody at the time, I doubt he would have been trying to escape or get the Jews away from westerners since we were trying to save them.
Possibly, but we have better examples.
An exceptional individual for an exceptional time, Marseille demonstrated gallantry that, though rare, made him notable on both sides of the war. We no longer see this type of respect in the world today, not even for those who are supposedly on the same side. Thank you. Colin, for reminding us all that there were men during times of great upheaval who demonstrated that chivalry on the battlefield had not yet died, when the term "gentlemen" still had meaning!
Speaking of his constant fighting as a kid: the USAF wanted to replicate the success of the US Army Air Corps when the former was formed in 1947. The USAF was shocked finding out that 1% of all Army Aviators were responsible for the destruction of 40% of all enemy aircraft. What made these supermen click? After exhaustive research they found one common trait: lots of fighting as kids. No other correlation. Not one.
I am ordering your book Star Of Africa and hope you look for mine when it becomes available.
S/F, ABY, WIHYW
I don’t doubt that at all. They’ve also looked at Victoria Cross/Medal of Honor recipients and found that they tended to be older brothers…so they did it out of love.
First of all, thank you very much for your excellent videos, Colin. I also like your choice of topics, many of which are truly forgotten or barely known at best. What came to my mind watching this video was the story of the "Black Baron" Kurt Knispel, who was a lot like Marseille in a number of respects. Knispel was a tank gunner and later commander, who was credited with a total of 168 tank kills, 126 of them with himself at the gun sights. Another 30 or so were not confirmed, some of which he had his younger comrades claim in order to boost their confidence and morale. He was famous for his incredible capabilities, which allowed him to spot, acquire and hit the target in no time, often even under the most unfavorable circumstances. Once he took out a T-34 over a distance of 3 kilometers. So, just like Marseille, he was perhaps the most efficient shot in his trade. Most probably, he was the most successful tanker of the Wehrmacht, maybe even of all time.
But... he was never promoted beyond Feldwebel and was never awarded even the Knight's Cross, because he didn't fit in as a Nazi role model. He could not have cared less about military demeanor, often not even taking his cigarette stub out of his mouth when addressed by an officer. He was everything but a Nazi, and is even said to have beaten up an SS officer in Poland, whom he caught mistreating Soviets POWs. Unlike German tank aces like Carius or Wittmann, He is barely known even here in Germany. I thought his story might fit here well, so you might be interested to do a video about him some time. I don't know if you've ever come across Knispel, so I added this little sketch of him.
I was friends with Otto Carius and Ernst Barkmann, and I know all about Knispel. Thanks for watching
What an amazing warrior. He checked out better than he checked in. With honor and how far............all the way!
A true chivalrous knight in a war where chivalry had long ceased to exist. Great video.
What a courageous young man. He was a reminder of a bygone era where honor and chivalry were the marks of a gentleman warrior. Thank you for this video Colin.
When his airplane had a defect while he's doing the escort sounded like a possible assassination
The investigation showed that there was a gearbox design failure. Many pilots had these failures until the redesign
A great story sir. From South Africa. Thank you 🙏
Colin I dont have much of a life and quit drinking 3 years back as such I watch alot of youtube channels,I got to tell you I look forward to each and every video , they are gold
Glad you enjoy them, stay well
Thank you for this video of an amazing man.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Here's a video topic that you should do. A video on Hitler's speech, "Last appeal to reason." His numerous peace attempts toward the British during 1940.
You should do a part 2 when the book comes out so we knows it's available and can hear more about this fascinating character of humanity.
If I do a part 2, it may just cover the practical jokes he pulled on everyone, and may a 3rd with greater detail on the pilots he shot down.
Great story. It is ashamed that countries/nations go to war against each other for one reason or the other. I've read and heard of many accounts, particularly from WW2 of the men fighting against each other (enemies) showing compassion for their fellow man. It is tragic that men get caught up in wars created by aggressive evil men/empires. We owe a GREAT Debt to ALL who have served our country with Dignity and Honor. Thanks for sharing this remarkable story
A full motion picture film about this legend would be deserved.
I first learned about Marseille when I read A Higher Call about 10 years ago.
Adam Makos and I are old friends, I shared a lot of information with him for the book, and we both knew Franz
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL WOW! That’s super cool.
Wow! I think this amazing fighter pilot was not only a hero he was a mensch.
A full motion picture film about this legend would be deserved. It's strange, but I shed a few tears by the end.
Decency: what else can you say about a young man who had to grow up early in life. Knew evil when he saw it and didn't let it change him into something that was all too common: the callous disregard for fellow human beings.I can see where he would have been a major league problem for that leadership, yet for all of Herman Goreing's shortcomings and many of them, he let it slide for this Luftwaffe Pilot. One of the Allied Pilots who would be directly affected by Hans-Joachim Marseille was USAF Col Charles Brown. I would like to one day go to that spot to see that memorial to one of history's most decent men.
Excellent story of a great warrior. One Who obviously was very good at what he did. His record of kills confirms that.
However he also showed that you could be chivalrous and a gentleman who had respect for your adversaries at the same time.
Without a doubt, he is the greatest fighter pilot who ever lived !!!
He deserve to remembered for ever….
Had to watch this again. Totally amazing, unforgettable story.
This brought tears to my eyes-as German born and Jew-and relative of great German and Polish soldiers, I wonder why this is now being revealed/honored- my great aunt, Erich‘s mother declined to speak-
Her Hartmut was destined to be the next defense minister
You should talk a little about The Red Baron of World War 1 .
Been done many times
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL yes it has, and I wouldn't mind seeing your take on him.
An amazing story that could not be imagined any better .
Excellent video- best pilot's bio I've seen in a long time. I want "The Star of Africa." If more men were like Joachim, less wars would happen
This was one of your best so far. Very informative and well researched enlightening another generation on heroic aspects of the enemy during WWII.
Fascinating story of a fascinating man. Brilliant piece from Colin- as ever.
Interesting story. I really enjoy learning beyond what we were taught in school. I appreciate your work.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow!!! At a great historical presentation! As always! This particular individual, though, is quite the man! What a beautiful human being! He beat to his own drum!! As well! Thank you for this! Very inspirational! It is so wonderful to learn about people in previous historic events, and so forth! It is probably somewhat infinite! A final note. Totally awesome! Thank you again stay well. Have a beautiful day.👍👍🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
Hey, it is beyond enjoyment!! Don’t even know how to describe the satisfaction of such a presentation! Really appreciate you using the gift of genius, you have!👍👍👍👍👍🙏
That guy was a total stud. Also had morals, something no shown often in Nazi Germany.
Jochen was UNIQE in every possible way
Thank you Colin for educating me about this amazing man, your channel is incredible. All the best from Uk
I think I read that the new Bf109G had different styles of engine bearings due to the bearing factories being constantly bombed. I read these new bearings would often seize and destroy the engine mid flight. Probably what happened to Marseilles aircraft.
Many thanks Colin for this video of my all time favourite human being. Can't wait for the new book to come off the press. All the very best. ⭐🌟
An incredible man, i have no more words to say, incredible.
Thank You Colin for helping keep history relevant. Best Wishes to You and Your Family.
Much appreciated
What an impressive story. I knew a little bit about him, but your presentation is by far the best I found on UA-cam. Congratulations for this very fine work.
That one was touching
So glad to see another Marseille video! The footage and photographs are amazing. Hell of a handsome guy, too.
His life needs to be a Christopher Nolan film. I’d watch the hell out of that.
We have been in discussions for a long time to turn my book into a film or limited series.
I'm looking forward to the updated book, as the last one I bought years ago is German Fighter Ace Hans-Joachim Marseille by Franz Kurowski....
Excellent video! 👍🏻👌🏼👏🏻
Franz wrote a good book, but of all the Marseille biographies, the vast majority believed that mine was better, mostly due to the many interviews I did with the people involved.
Fascinating story, one that I didn't know - thanks Colin!
My pleasure!
Great video Colin. Looking forward to when the full feature movie comes out
Right now we are looking at a Band of Brothers, Pacific and Masters of the Air type of 10 part series
He reminds me a little bit of Pappy Boyington. What a profoundly interesting character. A person that more people need to emulate. Thank you Marine. Awesome video!!!!!!!!
We have a video on Boyington
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL indeed. Precisely why I thought about him.
About halfway through your latest vid I started getting that dejavu feeling. Then it hit me. I recently watched an old black and white movie depicting the events you describe. I dont remember the name of it but it wasnt bad.
Der Stern von Afrika, 1957, and very well detailed.
I’ll have to get your book. Marseille and the RAF’s George Beurling were the 2 greatest pilots of WW2
Agreed, but I would about another 50 to that list.
Thank you for such great, informative content. You are single handedly keeping thought and curiosity alive in this crazy day and age.
Wow, thank you!
Gosh this was such a good video and a great but sad story. So many of the German Luftewaffe pilots were men of honor and respect. Even more so a lot of the times than our allied pilots.
I had never heard this story before but as soon as I heard he was a pilot in the early years I figured he would be killed at some point unfortunately. A Luftewaffe pilot making it through so many years of war coming out of it alive was almost unheard of it seems.
Something a lot of people don’t know is that so many of the Luftewaffe pilots that survived the war were absolutely hated in Germany. Being blamed by so many for losing the war.
For not stopping the bombers.
This channel is magnificent
I read the book several years ago, been a subscriber to this channel for the past year or so, but until now, never made the connection!
You are a breath of fresh air in a great world of over everything and the way you tell stories in history no matter what the outcome is gives me hope that we might eventually get to a better place in time than we are going today. Thanks for sharing this with us and I will say from my family of veterans to yours God bless you and your family and friends, we will be looking for that next breath 🫁 of fresh air from you and your stories of true and factual history. Good morning and have a great Tuesday today. I wish I could contact you about a story of a true Marine that was in the Iwo Jima Flag photo and made it through the battle for Iwo Jima and Okinawa to get to his home and later be snuffed out by events out of his and his family's control. His brother and niece are still alive and me and a few relatives in Texas who have his metals are still alive also but getting up there in age also. Brother is in his 80's and niece (My Mother) is almost 80 now also. Again thank you for sharing your hard work and time with making this happen again so future generations can enjoy the truth and facts of real World History.
Thank you kindly
Excellent video. I love all the archival photos and film. Thank you very much!!!
Thank you too!
Great show!!!
Amazing work! Never heard of him
Thanks Colin for an outstanding video on the life of this exceptional fighter pilot who displayed a strong character, bravery and chivalry towards his "enemies". I hope to one day visit Marseille's memorial pyramid in Egypt to pay my respects. The original edition of your book on Marseille was the best book I've read on Marseille and I can't wait to for the new edition. When do you expect it to be published?
Well, if we can complete the contract, late this year
Beautiful video, sadly,... that "Personally Delivered" 109G2 sounds like it was "Prigozhin'd".....
Thanks for watching
The German Luftwaffe was filled with chivalry. The more I learn about those original pilots who saw the beginning of the war, the more respect I have for them as a whole as many of them remained true to their morals and humanity to the end. I think the same can be said of the Kriegsmarine, u-boats and all. Both organizations seemed almost shielded from the intensity of the Nazi propaganda machine.
What an inspiring man and his story nearly brings me to tears every time I hear it. There needs to be a two hour long documentary on his story😮
Really touching episode. I usually doubt the myth of the good German warrior. Many being postwar constructs, yet I actually found myself rooting for this boy and saddened by his unfortunate death. Well done FH.
Really!? I've never once heard a story of any german soldiers having any good qualities around here pre-internet. In what places was that myth perpetrated?
@@FuckGoogle2 Wow. Going back to 1951, which I hope is "pre-internet" enough for you, a number of books, film and documentary creations attempting to portray Rommel as a noble German. At least to start....
You are another idiot
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL That may be. I'm referring to the myth of the clean Wehrmacht. Wasn't Rommel (Et. Al.) a dedicated Nazi? Yet for years he was portrayed as simply a casualty of circumstances.
@@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL Completely uncalled for remark.
He aimed for the front of the planes of those he shot down. Enabling the pilots to bail out. When they did he often met his adversary later and made sure the pilot was treated well.
I knew the story a while back, you've just reminded me of it. One of your best yet colin 👌
He and “Pappy” would’ve gotten along famously (or, thrown down in a good brawl!).
Outstanding presentation. Thank you.
Amazing story
Thank you! 🙂
I admire Rommel cause did the same for enemies RESPECT admire by own and enemies but I'm happy of seeing this video my conception of the Germans as i was told is presise and true so salutes to Joachim and Rommel thanks for such of good information
Well said
Amazing story!!! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sir ; I have ordered your book about this amazing man. Thank you for giving All veteran's a human face in our later age. Thank You: Christopher ~ 🇺🇸
This fella proves that those who give heinous orders have NO power if the recipients of the orders defy them. For evil to occur, good men must be spineless & there must be "mass formation" delusions / hypnosis / obedience.
I was certainly impressed by his mmxoral compass. A deep sense knowing right and wrong being accountable to God.
Love the channel, recounting all the stories the school system never told us.
Exceptional strength of character and of high spiritual strength= exceptional human being!! Sad he didn’t survive the war!! Did he father any children?? Thanks awfully much Colin!! ❤
Marseille had a half brother to lived in Australia
What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing this. Goes to show that there is good in all corners of the world no matter the circumstances. Could you do a show on the POW camp in Stark New Hampshire? I have heard stories about the camp and how the German prisoners had the best years of the war there. Some stories from the camp include an escaped prisoner who was found by a camp gard while on leave in New York City, and the prisoner was trying to sell art. Then once in a while some men would escape, go to this cabin in the woods and drink moon shine with a old man who lived there and in a few days the guards would go get them and continue as usual. They cut wood for the loco mills as their main work.
I would have tor research that one. Thanks for watching
@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL your welcome. This is my favorite video from you guys so far. My I suggest that you contact the Berlin and Coos country historical sostey for information on the camp. They are the closest historical sostey to the camp and should have plenty of information for you guys. To interesting stories you might like to hear are the time the Germans, to their horror, were introduced to a local pest called the black fly and trust me they are a menace in Northern New England. As well as during the war, the Germans worked and trained with horses to work in the woods. Unfortunately, after the war, the mills had a hard time using the hoses afterward because the horses only understood German commands because the Germans were the ones who trained them. Just some extra content for you to consider for the video.
Great story of a great man. He wasn't an American but he was still the pride of his nation and all around good dude
True badass and a warrior with much respect for the enemy .sounded like he was just born on the wrong side .this story I will never forget thank you for making me aware
I knew he liked the ladies but didn' t know how wild he really was. Looking foeard to the updated book!
I don't know about you but I'm seeing a pattern with young pilots and......
@@NoManClatuer-pd8ck Dick Bong was a bad boy too but was cut slack because he was such a good pilot.
@@jamescherney5874 Been to the Richard Ira Bong Museum a couple times. Never got that impression from his contemporaries there or at EAA in Oshkosh. I suppose it's possible. Those crazy Lutherans.
@@NoManClatuer-pd8ck Bong was not near class of Marseille but was almost bounced out of P-38 for buzzing Market Street in San Francisco. Gen Kenny cut him some slack. Bong also bent some of the rules when he wasn't supposed to fly combat missions. Being a former Navy pilot none of this surprises me.
@@jamescherney5874 That's an awesome story. I believe that's what Risner later called "flight suit attitude". Bong was a test pilot, which didn't preclude him from shenanigans, but most of what I heard was that he was a dedicated husband if only tragically for a short while. Before my sons were born I bought die-cast P-38's to use as pulls on their changing table as a tribute to Bong from his museum in Superior, WI. I filled that nursery with airplanes. Girls, skateboards and cars have so far won out.
I will buy your book, especially an audio book once available. Such a wonderful story.... better than fiction
Hope you enjoy it! the 2nd edition will have a lot more details.
I learn so much from your videos.
Glad to hear it!
Would love to hear about his pranks. FMF Corpsman here so you know we pulled quite a few in our day 🍻
I know all about it. The pranks in total will be in the next edition of the book
Animarchy goes much in depth and shares more of his Tom foolery check it out on his channel he has 2 parts
Marseille, along with businessman Oskar Schindler, proved that card carrying "Nazis" could defy the Nazi Aryan superiority myth.
You have a cool historical channel. I really enjoy these.
Glad you enjoy it!
Amazing story. Might have to get your book !
Please do!
excellent
He had his faults, but he lived by a code of honor...
In most respects, he represents what a good man is supposed to be: honorable, loyal to his friends and country, unresentful to his opponents for the job which their countries had tasked them
He demonstrated that while men should love the country of their birth, it doesn't mean that you have to like or respect those running the government
Excellent Historical Documentary. Hans Joachim Marseille was a Great Fighter Pilot & an Honorable Human Being. I am proud to be the owner of one of his many Medals & Ribbons, as well as an article about him published during WW 2. Where do I find the books that were written by the fine man who presented this video?
Go to Amazon, and search the secondary marketplace. The 2nd edition will be out soon. Thanks for watching
I can see why others choose this young, gallant German Ace.
My own question was, "What other German Ace could be better than Egon Mayers?" Led me to this video.
I can see why, apart from being an aviator with great skills, his character was bigger.
Do an episode on Raoul Wallenberg.
Planning on it, Thanks for watching