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  • With Brexit fast approaching, John Harris and John Domokos have spent four months sampling the mood of the country. In episode one of this new series, they spend time in the Midlands town of Walsall, where despite cuts and Tory chaos, Labour isn't breaking through
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 541

  • @theGuardian
    @theGuardian  5 років тому +2

    Watch part two here: ua-cam.com/video/9HRg4cv9cww/v-deo.html

    • @GonzoTehGreat
      @GonzoTehGreat 5 років тому

      People aren't willing to talk to your reporter/journalist because they don't
      (1) share the same political views as the Guardian
      (2) want their personal views publicised because they're probably unpopular so they fear reprisals
      (2) trust the media in general - justifiably so, because in the past newspapers and documentaries have twisted what people have said to suit their own agenda

  • @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO
    @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO 5 років тому +34

    Walsall makes Birmingham look like Frankfurt

    • @justininfrance
      @justininfrance 5 років тому +4

      What an ignorant comment. Birmingham is actually far more interesting than Frankfurt.

  • @SirAmicVarze
    @SirAmicVarze 5 років тому +96

    5:43 - 'Labour councils have to implement Tory cuts so people see them as all the same.'
    Very important point.

    • @barbarossa5700
      @barbarossa5700 5 років тому +3

      Did you or the 29 likes actually watch the video? "Labour councils have to implement Tory cuts" past tense, very important point, if you watched it to the end.

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 5 років тому +8

      Barbarossa Past tense??
      English isn't my first or second language but have is present and had is past tense.

    • @barbarossa5700
      @barbarossa5700 5 років тому

      His argument is null/void because it's based on a past tense ("have to") implying they still do, the end of the video shows labour is not actively the council that needs to implement "Tory" (governmental) cuts.

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 5 років тому +3

      Barbarossa 'Councils' is in general, not one specific.

    • @barbarossa5700
      @barbarossa5700 5 років тому

      *Why are the Tories winning Walsall?* Are you like the top poster not paying attention to what you're actually watching?

  • @BendmydickCucumbersnatch
    @BendmydickCucumbersnatch 5 років тому +30

    Labour are losing in Walsall but winning in Canterbury and Kensington. Strange times.

    • @FutureArchitect1
      @FutureArchitect1 5 років тому +2

      hard times create strong men
      strong men create good times
      good times create weak men
      weak men create hard times

    • @Bluewizard35728
      @Bluewizard35728 5 років тому +2

      Ur username lol classic

    • @kevalshah7629
      @kevalshah7629 5 років тому +1

      Although, they may made gains in almost every single constituency in the country.

    • @tennis5011
      @tennis5011 5 років тому

      Strange in Canterbury?? The self entitled me, me, me students who cling onto the fact that Captain Birdseye will give them all a Werther's Original for doing sweet F.A. Hardly strange, one would think!!

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 4 роки тому

      Lost in Kensington 😉

  • @jrisner6535
    @jrisner6535 5 років тому +1

    So so glad the series is back

  • @agt155
    @agt155 5 років тому +5

    Good job with the subtitles, Toby and Annabelle should be able to understand now.

  • @jamessalter5330
    @jamessalter5330 5 років тому +1

    great music throughout this series

  • @AlexBloggFilm
    @AlexBloggFilm 5 років тому +1

    It's been a bit of a style of the 'Anywhere but...' series, but could you please put some contrast back in your video Guardian?

  • @hogdog567
    @hogdog567 5 років тому +39

    The fact that you felt the need to use subtitles for ordinary British people says it all.

    • @Correctrix
      @Correctrix 5 років тому +26

      He's an old mumbler, not near the microphone, and with a barking dog. Yes, he also has a regional accent (like the presenter). If the Guardian didn't subtitle it, everyone would be complaining we can't make him out. If the Guardian subtitles it, you think "Hehehe, I can spin this as contempt for chavs. Excellent" and rub your hands like Putin over a new novichok recipe.

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +7

      The fact that you think only hearing people are interested in the world around them says it all about YOU

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +1

      @Ralph Masilamani and then where will you go, once you've got me?

    • @paulpaul8861
      @paulpaul8861 5 років тому +4

      Haha, well observed.
      Anyone that lives outside the M25 is a foreigner to the Guardian.

    • @chrisspencer6502
      @chrisspencer6502 5 років тому +5

      I think subtitles were needed because the sound is terrible.

  • @alexjames5290
    @alexjames5290 5 років тому +12

    "Let's rebel against the status quo by voting Tory"

    • @BC-yp8wn
      @BC-yp8wn 4 роки тому

      @Orsen Carte so they vote for the Torys upper class ideology😂

    • @BC-yp8wn
      @BC-yp8wn 4 роки тому

      @Orsen Carte also how would these people be made poorer. I cant imagine many 5 percenters living in wallsall in order to be touched by the rise in taxes, which was about £8 extra a month

    • @BC-yp8wn
      @BC-yp8wn 4 роки тому +1

      @Orsen Carte Id say the policies were popular, but corbyns almost subdued demeanour combined with constant smear and tge parties position on brexit were what had the negative impact. Labour needed someone who capable of arguement.

  • @weakboson7813
    @weakboson7813 5 років тому +1

    thank you for getting such good footage of all those neighbourhood kitties

  • @NathanConkey
    @NathanConkey 5 років тому +3

    I appreciate the highlighting of the growth of private charity, excellent work, The Guardian.

  • @stuartwray6175
    @stuartwray6175 5 років тому +46

    The neoliberal economic model has got people exactly where it wants them: atomised, apathetic....neither the pro-remain Labour right, nor the Tory brexiteers offer significant change.

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox 5 років тому +5

      I am pro remain Labour and I've never been right wing in my life!!

    • @capvtgeratlvpinvm9889
      @capvtgeratlvpinvm9889 5 років тому

      @@outlawJosieFox I'm a 3rd position fascist. Should be fun in the future

    • @darrenbellenger1
      @darrenbellenger1 5 років тому

      +Josie - problem is, if you've ever supported Peter Shore or Tony Benn (70's labour left) - that makes you right wing now.

    • @D_isco_D_ancer
      @D_isco_D_ancer 5 років тому

      *I would like to hear the explanation (rational one) on how the neoliberal economy got people apathetic.*

    • @darrenbellenger1
      @darrenbellenger1 5 років тому

      Explained in "Practical Idealism" by Coudenhove-Kalergi.

  • @bell191991
    @bell191991 Рік тому

    "Commies!? I wish that were true!" Didn't even try to deny it 😂

  • @rexstout8177
    @rexstout8177 4 роки тому

    That cafe guy was brilliant.

  • @jasoncoleridge5872
    @jasoncoleridge5872 5 років тому +36

    8 years of the Tories and places like these are getting worse..

    • @his1ojd
      @his1ojd 5 років тому +11

      And unbelievably they're still electing them. Turkeys voting for Christmas

    • @presidentofkekistan2690
      @presidentofkekistan2690 5 років тому

      Yeah corbyn can fix it all so you get to know your neighbours better, while standing in breed lines, if you're lucky that is.

    • @jasoncoleridge5872
      @jasoncoleridge5872 5 років тому +2

      @OrsenCarte rather Venezuela than capitalist Botswana and Uganda, ya thick, right-wing, noncey bellend!

    • @presidentofkekistan2690
      @presidentofkekistan2690 5 років тому

      I can point to every commie leftist country as a failure and you pick one capitalist country that failed....... Botwana WTF is that place I've never heard of it, it sounds made up and Uganda who cares, capitalism isn't promised success it depends on your ability, but morons like you who have been trained on how to think from leftist mainstream media wouldn't know anything about that huh, no can point to a commie country that's worked but you're that dense you support it

    • @presidentofkekistan2690
      @presidentofkekistan2690 5 років тому +2

      You're probably that dumb you think the EU is good, a government body that you have no vote on who is in it but they can make laws you have to follow, sounds more like a form of dictatorship, but again the rich elites that benefit from it wouldn't have told you about that and poor Jason doesn't know anything he hasn't been told to think

  • @hyksos74
    @hyksos74 5 років тому +2

    "People share it - and then they believe it" - sums human psychology up, really.

  • @skibum4022
    @skibum4022 5 років тому +3

    So happy to see Anywhere but Westminster making a return!

  • @scotttracy9333
    @scotttracy9333 5 років тому +5

    Sadly Brexit won't solve any of the deprivation. I fear the backlash when things don't improve

  • @josephinewinter
    @josephinewinter 5 років тому +2

    they were so sweet and friendly and jolly most of them weren't they? I don't want to go back, i'm lucky i moved to the countryside, but people were really friendly there, just a pity about the crime rates (scary, not just 'ooh, litter' more like 'ooh, murders' - i wasn't in walsall proper, which is quite posh compared with where i was)

  • @Neofolis
    @Neofolis 4 роки тому +1

    It doesn't fill me with hope when people are complaining about all the cuts imposed by the conservatives over the past almost 10 years and then vote conservative, because they assume no-one else will fix it.

  • @mickowen568
    @mickowen568 4 роки тому

    that's not the shopping centre ,u need 2 go back the way u came and turn left it will b just up the rd on the right

  • @ununseptium7961
    @ununseptium7961 5 років тому +2

    People vote against their interests all of the time in America. It's so frustrating. How will corporate shills ever look lookout for the common person?

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount 5 років тому +15

    I went to the local comprehensive near Bentley in the 70s. It is now called the e-Act Academy and was in the national press last year as the worst school in the country. However, I managed to make my way to university and now live in Surrey and earn a large wedge in the City.
    That area, which is the north end of the Black country, is quite passive. People just work and go about their business not bothering anyone. They don't make a big thing about being working class, or from the Black country, or anything for that matter. These are people who will tell you to sod off if you ask them to come to a rally. Unlike other noisier areas of the country, especially them up north. Tories luv em', good old passive working class.
    Labour in the past has neglected these areas, as safe seats, whilst the party moved to the right under Kinnock and the Blairites. Nothing New Labour did helped these areas at all. The old skilled trades and industries were shutdown and moved to the Far east in the 80s under Thatcher., the same guys who are pushing Brexit. And nothing has ever replaced them.
    As the years go by the remaining population becomes increasingly deskilled and shut off from its industrial heritage and roots. This area was part of the workshop of the world, Willenhall, where my parents still live is 1 mile from Bentley and was once the centre of all the lock and key manufacturers. You know the names: YALE, CHUBB, PARKES, LEGGE, Check your keys you'll find these names all over them. They're all went to the Far East years ago. And Harris's failure to show any of the wider context or history of the area was poor.
    This area is so destroyed and utterly pacified and resigned to decline that they're now voting for the Tories, the party that got rich from the products of their industry and threw them under the bus when they moved their capital overseas.
    When people talk about manufacturing, build it in Britain, and improving productivity, then this area is exactly that 30 years ago. All of that is gone and it is gone permanently. If you live in Bentley, and you have any education, you leave.

    • @Jonnie-Falafel
      @Jonnie-Falafel 5 років тому +1

      Yep. I did the same as you.

    • @nellyt2807
      @nellyt2807 5 років тому +2

      Jonathan Smith and what's that sit in ones bedroom dream about a big WEDGE and then put a fairy story on you tube . I too lived in Walsall got a university degree now I'm an astronaut getting a massive wedge oh next week I'm going too be pm

    • @juliantaylor2223
      @juliantaylor2223 5 років тому

      Thank you for your post. I can identify with a lot of what you say. I was born in 1974. I experienced the industrial destruction of my town in the 1980s. It has never recovered, like so many other places in northern England, and is now just a shell of what it once was. Once I’m done working I’m moving abroad.

    • @myroseaccount
      @myroseaccount 5 років тому +1

      I would add that the politicians who drove our industrial areas into dust did it over a long time frame culminating in the Thatcher era in the early 80s, and they were all English Tories. The ideological successors to this crew are the Tory Bruges group and no turning back Brexiteers. And Brexit was not carried by majority working class vote. The biggest demographic who carried Brexit were southern middle class Tories over 50. The folks who whose first votes cast when they reached 18 was for Thatcher. Brussels did not deindustrialise the Black country, Tories did that.

    • @pauljay6524
      @pauljay6524 5 років тому

      the black country has been forgotten for years... i agree with everything you said.. i moved from down south back to the midlands..

  • @sashman02
    @sashman02 5 років тому +3

    No harm, but what a depressing looking place to live. On the political side of things, there seems to be nothing but incompetence and infighting among both the Tories and Labour. Being honest, I don't see any bright future for Britain. Outsider's question: Why is there austerity and cuts over there if there isn't a recession?

    • @tig3662
      @tig3662 5 років тому +2

      It's a poor area. It's not exactly going to be Buckingham Palace is it?

  • @shauntaylor6040
    @shauntaylor6040 4 роки тому

    A foretaste of things to come.

  • @toyotaprius79
    @toyotaprius79 5 років тому +1

    This series would be perfect to broadcast the bafflement people feel within the border counties of Ireland and Northern Ireland. So far, from BBC to Channel4, they just interview the same farmers, the same politicians.

  • @coolbreez773
    @coolbreez773 5 років тому +1

    bottom line is what I think was Orwell's quote "you can always get one half of the poor to hate and kill the other half"

  • @tuulipop
    @tuulipop 4 роки тому

    Im always in my own world when im in town i forget how shitty walsall is until i watch things like this lool

  • @MrFunkethics
    @MrFunkethics 5 років тому +1

    Very relatable this. Spent many of hours knocking doors trying to convince people that need a labour more than anyone. The unpatriotic stigma Corbyn and Milliband courtesy of the bog roll press is unshakeable. What can you do? Keep ploughing on I suppose.

  • @tinacutting852
    @tinacutting852 4 роки тому +2

    Thats Bentley west not walsall

  • @thevo4100
    @thevo4100 5 років тому +3

    I wander thro' each charter'd street,
    Near where the charter'd Thames does flow.
    And mark in every face I meet
    Marks of weakness, marks of woe.
    In every cry of every Man,
    In every Infants cry of fear,
    In every voice: in every ban,
    The mind-forg'd manacles I hear

  • @ominous7271
    @ominous7271 5 років тому +2

    Wow, love it! Anywhere but Westminister is brill.

  • @marconatrix
    @marconatrix 5 років тому +10

    Very good reporting ... but a bit scary TBH ...

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому

      It's Walsall. Not representative of the UK at large.

    • @rachelthecool2880
      @rachelthecool2880 5 років тому

      dont worry too much jake the guardian youtube channel has a large hate-following of angry fascists who definitely dont care about anything but the narrative

    • @owenw3637
      @owenw3637 3 роки тому

      @@jake4101 hahha ok

  • @905lina
    @905lina 5 років тому +1

    there would be no labor, if all manufacturing companies leave UK

  • @adam4757
    @adam4757 5 років тому

    Well that was depressing.

  • @folksinger2100
    @folksinger2100 5 років тому +2

    And Land Rover Jag is now on a 3 day a week

    • @-DC-
      @-DC- 5 років тому

      They could always try making cars people want and to a high quality, that appears beyond them.

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 5 років тому

      Nothing to do with Brexit. People in China are buying cars regardless of Brexit.

    • @folksinger2100
      @folksinger2100 5 років тому

      Because of an NUM strike and silly person the UK joined the EEC in 1973.

    • @slimboyfat9409
      @slimboyfat9409 5 років тому

      John John
      A lower cost manufacturing economy then Britain would probably make more sense in the long run for Tata, their Indian owners.

  • @remcovanek2
    @remcovanek2 5 років тому +1

    Who put the austerity in place? The EU or your own government? Why not support a party that fights inequality and sets up a healthy economy.

  • @fazzz
    @fazzz 5 років тому

    Please turn down the brightness. My eyes!

  • @roadend78
    @roadend78 5 років тому +2

    In or out of the EU we still live in Tory foodbank uk 2018 ?

  • @revol148
    @revol148 5 років тому +3

    The last time Labour (even vaguely) cared for the working classes was probably in the time of Foot, Benn & the early years of the party under Kinnock - strange that John Harris hasn't noticed that...

  • @liamgudgion
    @liamgudgion 5 років тому +10

    Come to Sunderland, Traditionally Labour City, voted Leave 82,000 - 51,000, Labour are losing seats left and right

    • @samaale7381
      @samaale7381 5 років тому +2

      Liam Christopher Ritchie Sunderland is a dump place that no body goes to. The same for pretty much every town in the north.

    • @liamgudgion
      @liamgudgion 5 років тому +1

      A very cynical view, one that I happen to disagree with but non the less a great example of a city left behind by the political class and misrepresented by their elected officials. An act of rebellion and it should be covered by the news media.

    • @harmlessdrudge
      @harmlessdrudge 5 років тому +4

      @@samaale7381 Sunderland is a dump? Somalia is a sh*thole.

    • @slimboyfat9409
      @slimboyfat9409 5 років тому

      Liam Christopher Ritchie
      You might be losing Nissan eventually.

  • @Jonnie-Falafel
    @Jonnie-Falafel 5 років тому +5

    When the voter mentions immigration John Harris says, "What about Walsall things?".... Er that is actually a Walsall thing!

  • @Harry-TramAnh
    @Harry-TramAnh 5 років тому +6

    Why would you even vote for either of them? Both have been shown to mismanage the economy.

  • @abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6
    @abelovedsonofGodinwhomHeis35-6 5 років тому +1

    Why are the Tories winning Walsall? Well the answer is very simple really, Walsall voted to leave the EU, at the last election the Tory party promised to deliver Brexit, whereas the Labour party wanted to give us a sort of in and out Brexit, so they brought into the lies of the Tories, the bigger question now is will they vote for the Tories next time?

    • @scooby1992
      @scooby1992 2 роки тому

      3 years later in answer to your question , they voted Tory again in Walsall North and loads of other places and labour only just hung on in Walsall South .The council is still Tory controlled as well .

  • @wanderlusterer442
    @wanderlusterer442 5 років тому +2

    I see the local representatives of Labour on this video and "sigh" very deeply.

  • @barnbersonol
    @barnbersonol 5 років тому

    If you asked Corbyn "What have you learnt from the Labour mistakes of the 70s?" I wonder what he'd say?

  • @dambar7486
    @dambar7486 5 років тому +1

    The resignation that government can't do anything so we might as well vote for a bunch of toffs and feel the warm glow of defending our nation is what Timothy Snyder describes as the politics of eternity. Tory politics is becoming more like the politics of Trump and Putin by the day.

  • @dangoruiz3259
    @dangoruiz3259 5 років тому +4

    As an American, I am so out of the loop as to what is going on in England and Brexit. I would’ve appreciated an intro to this town and what’s been going on.

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +8

      Here's the backdrop:
      "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU. Those with A levels and no degree were evenly split, 50% to 50%.
      Age is the other great fault line. Under-25s were more than twice as likely to vote Remain (71%) than Leave (29%). Among over-65s the picture is almost the exact opposite, as 64% of over-65s voted to Leave while only 36% voted to Remain. Among the other age groups, voters aged 24 to 49 narrowly opted for Remain (54%) over leave (46%) while 60% of voters between the ages of 50 and 64 went for Leave."
      YouGov, 27 June 2016
      Up to this point the Tory government has failed to create a plausible plan underpinning a deal with the EU that won't have catastrophic implications for the UK economy.
      The Brexit vote was an attempt to silence a Euro-sceptic faction in the Tory party that has massively backfired for the UK.

    • @VolkerHett
      @VolkerHett 5 років тому +4

      +Ralph Masilamani
      I don't think the working class brit wants another fascist Germany, especially not with Austria, Hungary and probably Romania, Slovakia and others on their side. Oh, and Italy.
      You might have heard of the last time those countries where united under a right wing ideology.

    • @dangoruiz3259
      @dangoruiz3259 5 років тому

      Great summary and good luck y'all.

    • @rickoneillable
      @rickoneillable 5 років тому

      No offense but there’s something called the internet. Read up on the situation, easy to do.

    • @SuperHooverman
      @SuperHooverman 5 років тому

      Jake Krige..........I've never understood how accumulating £40,000 worth of debt to get a 2/1 in media/Theater/ David Beckham (please insert whatever!) studies from a redbrick could be seen in any way as a demonstration of intelligence.
      Perhaps you would care to elaborate ?

  • @Truthseeker1515
    @Truthseeker1515 5 років тому +3

    These people have completely been forgotten by Westminster. Sadly the EU is to blame when its really always been a question of domestic politics and public choice i.e. wealth redistribution and public investment.

  • @mykabayiri
    @mykabayiri 5 років тому +1

    When you don't feel like Labour have an answer, and Conservatives dont have an answer either, it must almost feel like tossing a coin to vote or staying at home and watching telly.
    These are the sort of conditions where radical politicians of the future can thrive. Centre ground politicians should indeed worry.

  • @Iazzaboyce
    @Iazzaboyce 5 років тому +86

    I don't think the Labour Party or Guardian quite get how many Labour voters they are alienating by opposing Brexit. Millions of Labour voters voted for Brexit and have had two years of well-off Labour politicians and journalists telling them they are second class citizens whose deeply held opinions should be ignored... These ordinary patriots are now seeing Eton educated toffs as brothers in arms.

    • @gigelbecali8072
      @gigelbecali8072 5 років тому +16

      What working class mate? If there is any, they're easier to manipulate ... That's why Brexit is still alive! Like that guy that voted with "immigration" in his mind! If that's the only thing he based his vote on ... he is an ignorant little self-entitled white person!

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +11

      You're under a false impression about Labour's position on Brexit. But don't trust what the Labour leadership says, believe the Tory-supporting BBC, and Murdoch's News Corp.

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +5

      @@Irishtradchannel
      "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU. Those with A levels and no degree were evenly split, 50% to 50%.
      Age is the other great fault line. Under-25s were more than twice as likely to vote Remain (71%) than Leave (29%). Among over-65s the picture is almost the exact opposite, as 64% of over-65s voted to Leave while only 36% voted to Remain. Among the other age groups, voters aged 24 to 49 narrowly opted for Remain (54%) over leave (46%) while 60% of voters between the ages of 50 and 64 went for Leave."
      YouGov, 27 June 2016

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +5

      @Ralph Masilamani your angry posts are making less and less sense.

    • @Iazzaboyce
      @Iazzaboyce 5 років тому +2

      Jake Krige Those stats may be accurate, however, there's a reason we don't have to put our age, sex, profession, net worth, educational qualifications etc. on the ballot paper and this is because in a democracy each person has an equal say.

  • @laylaa6857
    @laylaa6857 5 років тому +110

    Brexit (n) - "The undefined being negotiated by the unprepared in order to get the unspecified for the uninformed."

    • @jake4101
      @jake4101 5 років тому +13

      ... and the uneducated.
      "The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU. Those with A levels and no degree were evenly split, 50% to 50%."
      YouGov, 27 June 2016

    • @dickhamilton3517
      @dickhamilton3517 5 років тому +3

      good old English name, Masilamani, goes back weeks.

    • @dickhamilton3517
      @dickhamilton3517 5 років тому +6

      Ralph -- couldn'r resist it -- "us nationalists" !
      don't vote Tory, son, you're voting for "globalists"

    • @7thdanwebninja
      @7thdanwebninja 5 років тому +8

      Exactly, soon as the uneducated are in charge everything will be just fine.

    • @Godlike-87
      @Godlike-87 5 років тому +4

      @Ralph Masilamani you live in a globalised economy and think isolationism (It's certainly not self determination) will improve your state? Jesus... that's like being a pacifist during a war. Right idea, wrong time, wrong place.

  • @pipster1891
    @pipster1891 5 років тому

    Subtitles for people from Walsall? WTF?

  • @Riddlestar93
    @Riddlestar93 5 років тому +1

    The stock market is booming, why are they soo poor?

  • @dicksimo76
    @dicksimo76 5 років тому +1

    Given austerity and deprivation, yet still vote Tory ffs🙈

  • @davidskitmore1567
    @davidskitmore1567 5 років тому +1

    Why are the Tories winning?. Because the alternatives is to f****** terrifying to contemplate.. Corbyn Abbott Kahn.. like I said f****** terrifying...

  • @ACRetro
    @ACRetro 5 років тому +22

    The sneering as they park up in Bentley says everything. It's the same sneering superiority that the modern Labour party has taken to interacting with ordinary people with. The precinct they selected has always been quiet. There is a busier one only 10 minutes' walk away in the centre of Bentley. Why didn't they go there? Wouldn't it fit their agenda?

    • @Correctrix
      @Correctrix 5 років тому +10

      They could have restricted themselves to bustling, affluent areas, but decided to go where they went. Is the British public not allowed to see the more run-down areas? Do you prefer us not to know they exist?

    • @ACRetro
      @ACRetro 5 років тому +2

      The precinct I refer to is in Bentley. Did I use the terms 'bustling' or 'affluent' at all?

    • @Correctrix
      @Correctrix 5 років тому

      > The precinct I refer to is in Bentley.
      OK. And that's a car too. Do you want to say some more irrelevant things?
      > Did I use the terms 'bustling' or 'affluent' at all?
      The first is a synonym of "busy", which you said. The second is what you were trying to imply: this place is run-down, whereas the other is doing more business.
      It's really irrelevant too. You're just a mindless right-winger spewing whatever you think sounds clever. You made no sensible criticism of the reporting, just meaningless metaphors such as "sneering".

    • @ACRetro
      @ACRetro 5 років тому

      Believe the video's narrative if you like, but I know this area very well and it is a misrepresentation. The rest of your reply is insane rambling.

    • @jonathanhenly99
      @jonathanhenly99 5 років тому

      Looks like you're the one with an agenda here.

  • @flitsies
    @flitsies 5 років тому

    I think what people forget is that the way people feel today has been coming on for a long time, not just Brexit, this Brexit thing has been in the making for over 10 years.
    Which is why it's hard to understand how the govt is making such a huge hash of it all.
    So even if we had voted to stay in the EU people would still feel bad and their problems would still be getting worse.
    Many people think they have more money in their pockets, but they don't, in fact every pound buys less and less every year.
    If not for the internet and cheap Chinese products made to a reasonable standard most people would have nothing as they couldn't afford anything.
    Rents are through the roof, council tax is high and going up every year, the roads are in a terrible state, the authorities allow people to park their cars on other people's private land.
    All these little digs and pokes slowly wear people down.
    And I know some like to think Brexit is a white mans thing, but there are a lot of Black and Asians who wanted out.
    I don't expect we will benefit from not paying the EU our money but that still doesn't mean the money won't be there, it's up to govt to spend it wisely instead of just giving it away.
    The EU as it is, is a wasteful and deceitful organisation that screws the people in a dictatorial manner, many people in many of the countries want out, the French voted to leave but their democratic vote was ignored and over ruled, the Polish don't seem that happy, the Greeks well they are tied in.
    The EU as a trading organisation is a good idea, but each govt must control it's own country, once they started to tell countries how to run their own affairs it all made less sense.
    The UK has a long history of trading with other countries, be it good or bad it exists, many countries still hold the UK with high esteem, many of those countries made sacrifices for the UK in two world wars and more, for the UK just to hand over its govt to the EU makes no sense at all.

  • @folksinger2100
    @folksinger2100 5 років тому +7

    Immigration- what most do not understand is that the vast majority of migrants to the U.K. are not from the EU. Neither do the understand that EU citizens that cannot support themselves after 3 months can be deported under EU rules.

    • @Jonnie-Falafel
      @Jonnie-Falafel 5 років тому +1

      EU law does not allow member states to impose on EEA citizens the same restrictions as the UK currently operates for non-EEA nationals. Eligibility criteria for EEA citizens are quite complex and depend on a range of factors such as whether they are, or have been, in "genuine and effective work" or have a "genuine chance" of being hired.
      An EEA citizen who arrives without a job and is still looking for work cannot receive means-tested jobseekers' allowance, child tax credit or child benefit within the first three months, under new regulations that came into force during 2014. These jobseekers must also pass the "habitual residence test" in order to claim. This test considers various factors including the measures they have taken to establish themselves in the UK and find work here.
      An EEA citizen who moves to the UK and is determined to be a "worker" is immediately eligible for in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit. However, their work must be considered "genuine and effective".

    • @deniseg-hill1730
      @deniseg-hill1730 5 років тому +1

      I have been saying the same for ages.

    • @folksinger2100
      @folksinger2100 5 років тому

      Then why does the Brexit Media bash on about EU citizens getting a free ride?

  • @harmlessdrudge
    @harmlessdrudge 5 років тому +68

    The problem for the Guardian is that, being internationalists, they just can't get their head around why people would prefer to live in a homogeneous community, among people whom they share a common history with and a feeling of solidarity if attacked. It's not about privatisation versus nationalisation, it's something much deeper than that.

    • @dambar7486
      @dambar7486 5 років тому +1

      Except they are getting worse and worse off - the very failure of local government due to central government cuts is producing a cynicism about democracy in general. And the Tories aren't even able to make a credible case that they can improve lives just that the others are equally bad. This does not bode well for our future.

    • @thescroopleflomper4514
      @thescroopleflomper4514 5 років тому +5

      These bourgeouis materialists see life and human affairs through a purely economic lens.

    • @dambar7486
      @dambar7486 5 років тому +1

      Democratic politics should be about solving real problems. When politicians abandon that and start talking about abstract spiritual things they are making a virtue about helplessness. That kind of politics leads to a very dark place.

    • @thescroopleflomper4514
      @thescroopleflomper4514 5 років тому

      "Matters of the spirit are not real problems"
      You are not even close to what is essential.

    • @dambar7486
      @dambar7486 5 років тому +1

      They are not problems that politicians can or should attempt to solve. If you seek a spiritual solace seek a priest not a politician. A politician who promises spiritual solutions is a charlatan.

  • @jasonmoser8957
    @jasonmoser8957 5 років тому +2

    these people need universal income

  • @alternativeguy_2415
    @alternativeguy_2415 4 роки тому +2

    My shop looks messy on the outside , get a brush and sweep up then?

  • @Megatron-sl5us
    @Megatron-sl5us 5 років тому

    The people supported Brexit. They said it would be a great thing for Britain. You reap what you sow.

  • @leifharmsen
    @leifharmsen 5 років тому

    single winner districts are decidedly undemocratic.

  • @MartinIDavies
    @MartinIDavies 5 років тому

    If the rubbish looks a mess - then pick it up..

    • @owenbevt3
      @owenbevt3 5 років тому

      and put it where? no public bins and puting in in there commercial bin is expensive.

    • @MartinIDavies
      @MartinIDavies 5 років тому

      "put it where?"
      what is wrong with you.. you are a citizen, a resident, you vote, you have agency... get involved in local politics (I assume the responsibility of rubbish removal is the local authority) so if the existing lot don't or can't deliver these basic municipal services you.. the local citizen's have the responsibility to replace them with those who will deliver these services.. stop moaning and act..

  • @tanotoscano7579
    @tanotoscano7579 5 років тому

    she complains about the litter at the front of her shop but she doesn't clean it either, easy to complain and vote leave ... what did they think that leaving EU means more money for the councils?

  • @TONYSPURSMAN
    @TONYSPURSMAN 3 роки тому

    Guardian doing is best to remain

  • @icecrack8550
    @icecrack8550 3 роки тому

    Next to my mates that I’s Bentley

  • @jollysmith5177
    @jollysmith5177 5 років тому +3

    8.05. Top lad spot on

    • @paulpaul8861
      @paulpaul8861 5 років тому +3

      SHowed his true colours there.
      I love the fact that Owen Jones, Corbyn's unofficial spin doctor, now goes out campiging for Labour with Ash Sarkar - an actual communist.
      Then he wonders why people don't vote Labour.

  • @BigBuckChicken
    @BigBuckChicken 5 років тому +10

    It's telling when the guy outside the polling station calls The Guardian a "bunch of commies" and the reporter replies "I wish that were true."

  • @DTM4581
    @DTM4581 5 років тому +25

    The Guardian is a crock.

  • @abuhamza1970
    @abuhamza1970 5 років тому +2

    And that was a party political broadcast by the Labour Party

  • @evairpachelbel2383
    @evairpachelbel2383 5 років тому +1

    I love British accent.

  • @LOREHAMMERLIBRARY
    @LOREHAMMERLIBRARY 5 років тому +74

    The Guardian is so biased even in a documentary lol

    • @lostintashkent
      @lostintashkent 5 років тому +11

      but it doesn't even claim or pretend to be unbiased. everyone understands what the Guardian stands for.

    • @jsbart96
      @jsbart96 5 років тому +4

      Or is it just something you disagree with? Biased against what? What was biased??

    • @DoubleMannings
      @DoubleMannings 5 років тому +2

      lostintashkent they do claim so when they ask for donations online!

    • @pisse3000
      @pisse3000 5 років тому +1

      @@DoubleMannings You don't have to be unbiased, you just have to be objective

    • @DandyLion662a
      @DandyLion662a 5 років тому

      @LOREHAMMER - It would help if you could cite a particular instance of bias. And "lol"? I know it was considered hip amongst the younger set a decade ago or so, but still?

  • @mandroidmusicvideo3577
    @mandroidmusicvideo3577 3 роки тому

    desaturating the footage doesnt seem fair

  • @catsplaining3599
    @catsplaining3599 5 років тому +68

    He walks around, surrounded by Pakistanis, doesn't cross his mind to notice.
    Doesn't for one second think: "Why are all these people here? What does it mean? Why is transforming Britain into Pakistan meant to be a good thing?".

    • @dorbid
      @dorbid 5 років тому +4

      You sound absolutely mental

    • @catsplaining3599
      @catsplaining3599 5 років тому +4

      Jonny G - yes, the "ninjutsu power" nutcase does sound absolutely mental.

    • @dorbid
      @dorbid 5 років тому +1

      Catsplaining and you even worse

    • @JD-rc8yz
      @JD-rc8yz 5 років тому +2

      most of them are 2nd gen so he wouldn't think that

    • @deniseg-hill1730
      @deniseg-hill1730 5 років тому +8

      Nothing to do with the EU. We have always had control over immigrants from outside the EU. Blame our governments

  • @VaucluseVanguard
    @VaucluseVanguard 5 років тому

    The council do not have funds - they have my money that I earned and now want to tax me on. It's not government - or Corbyn's money - it's my money. I'm happy to pay more tax but only if spent on people who want a hand up not a hand out. We have to be honest, that perhaps three quarters of people in Walsall on benefits want a hand out not a hand up.

    • @theLukedishwasher
      @theLukedishwasher 5 років тому

      VaucluseVanguard who is suggesting a hand out? Where are you getting your statistics from? Have you ever been to Walsall or know anybody from there? Walsall could be anywhere that’s lacks investment, it’s not in people’s DNA now is it? Where better to spend investment, London?

  • @bohm1378
    @bohm1378 5 років тому +4

    Where do journalists who haven't grown up work?

  • @simonjandrell5897
    @simonjandrell5897 5 років тому

    what a great way to some up Politics and the Establishment, no matter who is voted in???, the system is bigger than them, how true (it is this all over the World)

  • @skinnytinny9023
    @skinnytinny9023 5 років тому +35

    For Working Class people like myself Brexit was all about immigration, by far our number one concern. London is now about 40% White British, not even 40% White English or White Londoner. Alot of people won't think that is ok.

    • @paulpaul8861
      @paulpaul8861 5 років тому +15

      Brexit has nothing to do with non european immigration.

    • @MrDnB89
      @MrDnB89 5 років тому +15

      why is this even a problem? don't you like non-white people?

    •  5 років тому +6

      yep paul you are right but the leave camp framed it that the EU is responsible for all the non-white immigration which is not true. it was our own goverment that let them in on mass back in the 60s 70s 80s 90s 2000s and even today. all most all non-whits come from outside the EU. the EU is not in charge of that our own goverment is. so yeah working class white brits are being fucked over, and after brexit we are going to lose are only assess to white immigration, and instead we are going to have to get our cheap labour from counties like india and africa.
      so oops i guess for us white brits.

    • @hotroxy777
      @hotroxy777 5 років тому +12

      Antony Warrilow
      First of all, it's pure racism then. Second, you and all those people will be surprised soon enough that non_European immigration will rise in numbers after Brexit. Also, non-European (mostly Asian and African) immigrants came here many years ago and are a part of your culture now. Their families are usually bigger than the average white British family. In the next 20 years, you'll see even less white British. Especially after the Brexit economical disaster when you'll have a very hard time to afford to have a big family. Europeans will do fine without you. They could come here, learn your language, get a job, make a good life for themselves. They can start over again if they will be forced to do so. The only thing that Brexit does is alienates the UK. I wish you good luck with that. You gonna need it.

    • @mobilechikane8574
      @mobilechikane8574 5 років тому +11

      The ironic thing is that after Brexit, the UK will see less white Europeans come into the country and more Commonwealth immigrants (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) to fill in the void left behind by Poles, French, Germans, etc.

  • @simeonpaskell
    @simeonpaskell 5 років тому +1

    Why subtitle that chap? Odd.

  • @simpleasliam657
    @simpleasliam657 5 років тому

    Omg Walsall 😂

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox 5 років тому +1

    Do you want to know why there are always cuts?? Because people like you don't get out and vote ! So that is why we have endless Tory government with an occasional Tory Lite New Labour thing. If you don't vote then don't forget that the Tory voters ALWAYS VOTE

  • @AlexeiRamotar
    @AlexeiRamotar 5 років тому

    The lady at the store sells rubbish news aka The Sun

  • @mike-wi8wm
    @mike-wi8wm 5 років тому

    anyone here from real politik?

  • @janpavel1107
    @janpavel1107 5 років тому

    06:50 James Corden!!

  • @zippybiddelli700
    @zippybiddelli700 5 років тому +1

    I don’t know where your ?
    He swans around north London love ,armed with a samosa and a macchiato pretending to be down with the working classes desperate to hang out with people of colour...

  • @ladariva6619
    @ladariva6619 5 років тому +1

    Why do you hate democracy?

    • @charlesmahes9770
      @charlesmahes9770 5 років тому +2

      Only 48% of people now support Brexit. 52% are against.

    • @squirepepe8657
      @squirepepe8657 5 років тому

      Charles Mahes That’s because of the bad leadership, scare mongering and weak stances on points

    • @robertoorsi3203
      @robertoorsi3203 5 років тому

      Indeed, a 2% margin in the polls does not mean anything. The truth is that there has not been any major shift in the British public since the referendum. If Leave still has 48% in the polls it could be again over 50% in a real referendum.

  • @ashtonkeeble1306
    @ashtonkeeble1306 5 років тому +1

    I love reading the comments seeing Brexiters writing logical points and the remainers coming back with just insults. Way to change someone mind and win a debate lol.

  • @jonathanmcnulty4958
    @jonathanmcnulty4958 5 років тому +3

    At 8:06, did John Harris just say that he wishes The Guardian was communist?! Did I hear that correctly?! Or was he just taking the mickey? If not, then yikes...

  • @rhessex
    @rhessex 5 років тому

    Patriotic wheelbarrow at 6:38.

  • @hcwcars1
    @hcwcars1 5 років тому +2

    Send all the migrants to Paris the French love refugees and asylum seekers

  • @camdened123456
    @camdened123456 5 років тому

    The true story in Walsall wasn't the movement of people away from Labour since 2015 but the movement of people away from UKIP. Both Walsall North and Walsall South saw decreases of 10% points in UKIP votes. The difference was where the votes went. In Walsall South the Labour vote increased by 10.2 points, and the Con by 4.4 point. In Walsall North the opposite was true, where Con gained 15.9 points and Lab 3.8.
    The truth is most people voted for Brexit and then went back to whomever they voted for in the first place.

  • @hasankeser
    @hasankeser 5 років тому

    Is it fascistic to expect citizens discuss their preferences after they vote? I think it should be considered as a virtue to declare and stand by with your decisions over public matters -as in Ancient Greece, maybe. I know it's strange to our liberal senses; but it equally sounds wrong to me to avoid speaking such matters in front of public. There is a moral wrong here. We cannot force everyone to be virtous but their decisions also influence me and they try to avoid discussion -perhaps it could have been more informed in otherwise situation?

  • @mrdontrumpkinggod5701
    @mrdontrumpkinggod5701 5 років тому

    ANY ONE BUT LIEBOUR

  • @davelites8270
    @davelites8270 5 років тому +3

    More leftie twaddle

  • @ghostdog4330
    @ghostdog4330 5 років тому +2

    It looks like a right dump.

  • @DeadDave
    @DeadDave 5 років тому

    Corbyn is the reason the Tories are winning and Farage is the reason the Tories will lose.

  • @SkyEcho7
    @SkyEcho7 5 років тому

    😶