I’ve read this story. This was in the late 90’s. The SFPD in this story makes it seem that the Surenos are the victim, and Nortenos have it made with a big house and nice family. Which is not true at all.
@@aconvictsperspective4196 Yea man I couldn’t stand that bias. I guess it stems from Surenos being more helpful to the cops in terms of testifying. Which with The X4 is a huge violation, thus not having that kind of connection with the police.
One thing about sf thats crazy for youngsters is the bus. You can see enemies on the bus and stop it by pulling off the electric hookups. I watched so many fights on the back of the 14 bus. It goes through both hoods and peope need it to get downtown.
Anybody from the city in here remember pulling the lines on the back of the Muni n waiting for the bus driver to open the doors n go to the back n fix it while u run up in the bus n smash on the person u was tryin to get at?
That era was rough across the bay in Oakland but there was at least a buffer zone between the Norteño area in the 20s, 30s, 40s all the way out to 54th Ave and Border Brother Turf in the 80s, 90s, 100s Avenues. Crazy how close all the hoods were to each other in the Mission. My wife lived out there before I met her…she had a cousin from 22B who got shot but eventually got out of the life by joining the military.
Shout out to York St, 22nd Hogs, 22nd & Bryant, Shotwell, SFM, LNS, 21st & Alabama, Natoma, Ghost Town and all other cliques between 21st to 30th Mishone! RIP to all the fallen soldados and much love to those incarcerated... ✊🏼
@@esepetesegura my dad side is from FRISCO and mom side from LA I heard the story when I went to visit he was a founder of 19st. My primo is chato from 24st mission and chino from cypress park in SSF they know the history better than me Homie
@@vallero2097 LA was already populated and already had all the varrios set in place before the Bay was less populated and all you levas was moving in and paisas
26th and folsom they was brown rags but then some went blue and sme went red also boxer and colocho were twins or brothers boxer was a homie and colocho was sur I remember them 🐈
I remember reading this article, also the comments about the misconception of how nortenos were living it big with money and surenos were all poor immigrants
In 1988 I was sitting in my car, with 2 surenos on Mission st. and Silver ave. When 3 car loads of vatos from east side Daly City attacked us with beer bottles and bats, I got stabbed once, I learned later they were looking for homies from Mission, whom they always didn't get along with back then. And in the early 80's my dad was talking in the phone booth on 24th street and Mission, East Side Daly City vatos attacked the Mission homies, they broke my dad's arm with a pipe, I guess they thought he was a youngster.
Were you in a Dodge dart or something like that on the right side of mission st on the corner of silver? And there was a party up the hill going up towards silver? And they broke the rear back door window etc?
@@Ugdlf a small brown car, a 78 Opel ( Buick/Isuzu)l, all the windows were smashed, yes it was on the right side of Mission st. Yes I believe there was a party on silver, because we were standing on the corner watching the girls driving by, I heard the same night some other dudes got jumped, breaking one of their arm's.
We got Sfm On mission Lns on Capp. Shotty mob on shotwell . York street gang . Hamp st and Potrero gang. all just on 24th street then 22 B . 21st Folsom 21st and Alabama. 30th mission 31st nsr and E mob. Like all with in 1 mile of the mission district. X4 oh yeah and 14th and Natoma
@@McKeeNJackson we got hella different blocks in one neighborhood but we all kinda hate each other . It’s sucks but fuck it . Sf is pretty much a red on red city. Like 60% now
Let’s not forget about the Excelsior Mob and SFM/LNS gang war in the 90s. There are at least 10 Articles on that. Problem with that one is everybody is related. Now the kids of those wars are all hanging out. There were fights in the 70s and 80s also but they weren’t gun related until the 90s. Varrio Grande Excelsior and Crocker park came together as one hood in the late 80s. Excelsior is an older Barrio also. They were more about hustling and pimping in the 90s. But they definitely protect there hood and still do as such. I have family in both and glad that bullshit is over.
I like the video but do not like the propaganda pushed in the articles that were read… won’t go too into detail I’ll keep my input short;but I know a lot of us from up North are not racist and a lot of our parents are either born in Mex or are First Generation Chicanos. Truth be told I have homeboys who are born in Mexico and they were treated as equal never less than the Chicano homies… Awesome video and break down guys had a busy week last week time to get caught up on the content!!!!
19st remember when estabamos in war con 11st 18st 22B 24st lns ms13 remember we can walk to 16th Street because the RVs till we took them out remember when N had every f****** block 30st to 24st 16st 14st 19th to Dolores we had to look out for the MS-13 it was hard for us but we still put it down por nuestro barrio RIP Nicoyita miss you perro
19 st the most respected block in all of the mission because they held it down against everyone! My uncles were from 19th. When I was coming up 16th was the deep sur hood full of youngins which I was around. 19 had all the big homies that paved the way though
Cool video. I grew up in the outer mission and visitacion valley. I met alot of nortenos and miss the rush of cooling and mobbin around with my homies . Pulling bitches, popping bottles, getting high. Got into some fights got shot at once by Geneva and bayshore. Im glad I never chose to prove myself to anyone which could have led me to spend my future in the pin.
I do agree with your perspective flaco, there was no direction from the big homies in the early 90’s and IF there would have been OH man… I think the mission would have a war zone. Love your channel bro, keep pushing that positive message.
Ghost-town 30th Street 30th NSH 24th Street and cap LNS 24th and Shotwell Shotty Mob 26th and Mission aka 26 Family 24 Cypress 22nd and Bryant 22nd and Folsom 22nd and Florida 24th and Hampshire 21st and Alabama 24th and York Precita park 23rd and treat 24th Harrison 14th Natoma 14th Woodward And if I'm not mistaken I think Valencia and Bartlett I think had some homies Ect Ect pretty much every other block was homies everything except 19th Street and 16th those were Scraps blocks but just to keep you updated it still fucking wild as fuck in the Mission.
The crooked cop who wrote this story exaggerated on nortenos living a privilege life although being someone who was raised and still living in the mission I will say that alot of nortes I met from 24 weren't living in the mission but just wanted to be cool n and hang out n do dirt here. And some surenos didn't live in the mission either. Those cops were working with surenos and identified with them more cuz those cops were immigrants themselves. Ps there were alot crooked undercover cops back then in la mission.
To all dem folks that grew up together in da Mission District but got caught up in da mix on different sides of the same side. Stay Up & Keep It Sucka Free!!!
Times have change it’s almost 2022 n SFM is more alive n active than ever in history. Just cuz u don’t see homies at the corner posting up like in the 90s don’t think u can just do what u want out here in the mission. Come to a lowrider show if u think otherwise. The sureños have no solid ground out here n this is all homie land from the backstreets to the frontlines.
@@suckafreetv8336 I’m frm SFM. If u ain’t taped in u just don’t know, like I said is 2022 almost, the homies move completely diff n if u ain’t in the circle ⭕️ u just go by what u see
Until the mid 1990’s Sur and Norte shared the same Mainline, yards and tiers at San Bruno Jail and at 850 Bryant on the 7th and 6th Floors. Then 20th st started acting a fool with 19th st and that was it. But Norte was always stronger in the city and in Daly City. And BtW most Cops were 49er fans, hated the cowboys and grew up with and went to school with Nortenos from all over the city and Daly City. So them Surenos were screwed from both ends.
Grew up in the Mission,went to school on 29th& church. I was in 6th grd.(92)&my friend was gunned down on Muni. playing G.i. Joe's 1day gone the nxt. Smh
60's immigration resulted in a 80's - 90's baby boom in the Mission District. Kids entered a world and culture the hard working parents did not understand. There were just a lot of young people running around. The City and the Mission Disrict in particulr had long a long history of producing tough rebellious kids. Everybody knew everybody else because everybody lived on top of each other and went to school with each other. If I didn't know you, I knew your cousin or sister. It was great for social networking, but also enabled decade old rivalries and grudges to fester. But now those pads all go for two million. And you can buy $14 pork chops. But have to look around to find some tortillas.
04:33 on point, hiding behind paisa and snitching… that’s how they established, no matter how much they try to deny it. There’s plenty of paperwork on them. And they can still go back to their hood and kick it after they snitch on the homies… smh
All my dads side of the family landed in the mission from El Salvador 🇸🇻 in the 80s, if not for him following my mom to la..me & my siblings would’ve most likely grew up in the mission with all our cousins..ironically enough we grew up in East Hollywood in MS hood..this story trips me out, never knew this history…only clicked on this bcuz i recently reconnected with my fam up north since my dads passing, just was curious on the history of the neighborhood my family is from.
Opposite as well. If it weren't for my old man who knows where my brother's and I be today if alive. We left El Salvador for L.A in '82 Pico-Union on Hoover & S 12th , birthplace of La Mara. He pulled us out in 88 and lived in Frisco ever since.
Are any of you familiar with Dolores Park? That whole entire neighborhood back there is reputed to be HAUNTED... Cuz I used to attend Mission High School back in the 1990's, and both me and my fellow classmates (plus a few teachers and staff) have all seen a ghost there on the 4th floor... The ghost is that of a former teacher or student who usually appears to students who are in their Senior year or to janitors working there late at night. There are like some supply rooms and a few old disused classrooms or workshops on the 4th floor that were closed off while I was attending there back then. From the best of my memory; it appeared to look like a semi-transparent female figure of short stature, dressed in winter attire (a red and white Christmas-patterned sweater and brown bell-bottom corduroy pants), and sports a bowl-shaped pageboy hairstyle, holding a binder against her chest. She looked like someone from right out of the late 1960's or early 1970's. We couldn't quite see her face cuz she had her head down (as if she was in despair) and all her hair was covering it. This was during our lunch break period at noon, and we had noticed her standing down the hallway for quite some time. What's odd was that she was standing at the opposite end of the hallway from us, right by the stairway and away from the big glass windows that allowed for the sunlight to shine through on the 4th floor. She didn't move or even say a thing, and just stood there that whole time while we were there. It didn't strike us that she was a GHOST, until we had made our way back down to the ground floor by the courtyard area. And when we finally DID realize what we had just saw; we grew pale in the face, hauled our asses right outta there and ran all the way back to our classroom at like TWIN-TURBO SPEED!!! There are rumored to be ghosts also in the gym areas and even the locker/shower rooms as well, but I'm not gonna get into all that spooky shit. I heard that the school was built right over an Indian cemetery. Early builders who worked on building the school way back then, have even discovered the bones of Native Americans!
I work at Sanchez Elementary and Everett Middle skool around the corner. This area is fasho haunted. Lots of bloodshed from the colonial days of the colonizers with the native Ohlone. My jefita works at Mission High and I was just there last week where everyone was gone and bruh lemme tell u i got goosebumps. It was dark and eerie, def felt spirits around me. Old ass grounds built over stolen and sacred land. Its a trip. Dolores Park used to be a bullring too back when the Spaniards ran this area. Lots of history here
The whole Mission District is full of wandering souls fr a time long ago & they still don't realize that they met their end so they replay for eternity unless freed by reaching out to those who no one now knows but what also peers through those gateways an entity as evil as evil spells, Beware of Those.. Dust off dem Demons and pray for misguided souls.
I heard from upstate sureno is that if they told on a northerner to get them locked up or put away it was ok..and I heard that from more than one. It was a tactic they had to use in the beginning to get as many off the streets as possible that’s why a lot of up north cats don’t respect upstate sur at all. It’s one thing to have a enemy and still have respect towards them but it’s another thing to have a enemy that has no morals in that type of lifestyle.
You guys should do an episode on the mid-2000s when MS-13 started hitting the mission violently. Seem like the mission got kind of rolled up after that 07ish violence
Lower mission for the longest time was really some killas, not a place you wanted to get caught slippin, they’ve really fell off the last 15 years though. Really the only Upstaters in The West Bay that weren’t punks
Realest shit you said G lowers was literally the only skrap hood in the peninsula that was with the bizz. Now they completely fell off and still getting shot at 😂
@@aconvictsperspective4196 I was asking if anyone knows the names of the guys in that really old pic where they are joking the “Nuestra Familia “ sign. Some guy in the comment said he took the pic & named them all off. I was wondering if you thought the guy was legit.
Couldn’t even wear red or blue growing up. Shit was real. 11-19 st were 13’s and 22-30st were 14’s. Also 20’th and mission was ms13. There’s wasn’t no place anywhere like the mission it was lit besides all the gangbangin. Because of gentrification the gangbangin isn’t no where near what it was. Surenos were the ones that were always the most deadly because there was more Nortenos. It’s normal and happens even in prison with gangs like the bulldogs being outnumbered but are known for Puttin in work. 22b was the deadliest norte blk though they where the true rivals of 19 while 24th were to 16th.
Yup I went to Lincoln too. Simpson used to wear them ugly chanclas like a paisa. Me & my homie Bugsy from L.N.S hit the boy up & shook him. He wasn't with the smoke. S.F.C was a wannabee norteno gang with rag heads that ran it. They were middle eastern dudes & Bugsy smashed on E.J. at the 48 bus stop & ran like a bitch. They weren't about that life.
Theres still stuff that pops off between both sides. Me and some black n hispanic brothas that teach the word of God on 16th n Mission keep our ears open. We get word back that both sides still kill each other but its not on a every week basis. Due to gentrification and everybody getting 3 strikes, indictments and so forth, the population of gang members has decreased significantly. Still dangerous, but itll be a beautiful and righteous thing to see all my blacks n hispanics come together. All praises to YAHAWAH BAHASHAM YAHAWASHI.
@@purplesky4157 20th had innocent victims they were violent but they didn’t pull that on 22B or the other norteños like they should have been… 19 st lost too many ppl and never really retaliated like that both 20th n 19th got spanked in the 90s and 2000s after 19th got caballo they started getting dropped
@@regularoljoe1989 🤣bro this is big cap. Nortenos were def getting the worst of it because there were so many of em the surenos were always on go. I saw this with my own eyes. Also the innocent bystander thing is a double edged sword. If your from the city You would know there would be hella wannabes claiming norte. U can’t just wear red, kick it with nortes, call people scrap and not expect to get the business ain’t no nh I don’t bang after that. From what I saw every norte hood besides 22 and sometimes 14th were really frontline.19th st never retaliated😂😂😂😂? Never tried it on 22? 🤣😂😂U gotta be norte. 19th and 20th had huuuuge indictments not to far back because of all the crimes they committed no norte hood has had it to that scale because they weren’t doing what 19th and 20th were doing. Also 20th we’re without a doubt the most savage. Look at their crimes. This is all public knowledge on the internet sf chronicle, mission local , police records etc….. norte hoods were always more about the party people joined just to feel safe because they had numbers surenos were always on attack mode ain’t no false claiming cuz to much came with it. Both hoods have legends but surenos def had more hood legends than nortes without if doubt because of the work they put in.
Rojo when you gonna talk about LMT TLS AND SSL there's articles about them. Lmt was hated among surenos cuz they used to bullies small surenos varrios. Now lmt aint shit and its fading way slowly.
I’ve read this story. This was in the late 90’s. The SFPD in this story makes it seem that the Surenos are the victim, and Nortenos have it made with a big house and nice family. Which is not true at all.
@@aconvictsperspective4196 Yea man I couldn’t stand that bias. I guess it stems from Surenos being more helpful to the cops in terms of testifying. Which with The X4 is a huge violation, thus not having that kind of connection with the police.
I love telling stories while I’m high asf off weed on my UA-cam channel to cure people’s boredom 👌
if you were out there in those times and you made it through and your still all good I got much respect and love for ya your battle tested.
I remember
That’s me and thanks.
One thing about sf thats crazy for youngsters is the bus. You can see enemies on the bus and stop it by pulling off the electric hookups. I watched so many fights on the back of the 14 bus. It goes through both hoods and peope need it to get downtown.
Yep i.push a lot in 1995 the 14th could see a teen in blue I was there pushing that shit
Bus checking
Those buses can also run without the electrical poles. I think they have batteries for back up.
Anybody from the city in here remember pulling the lines on the back of the Muni n waiting for the bus driver to open the doors n go to the back n fix it while u run up in the bus n smash on the person u was tryin to get at?
True or getting up on the bus while that happen and tag like a mothafucka.
@@mannybroi5142 hell yea late 80s n early 90s tagging was off the hook on the muni my buses were the 14,49,24,67,48
My first mission 😂
14, 49 all day... Gimmi my transfer😂
@@bimbosantas2087 member them all day n late night transfers
That era was rough across the bay in Oakland but there was at least a buffer zone between the Norteño area in the 20s, 30s, 40s all the way out to 54th Ave and Border Brother Turf in the 80s, 90s, 100s Avenues. Crazy how close all the hoods were to each other in the Mission. My wife lived out there before I met her…she had a cousin from 22B who got shot but eventually got out of the life by joining the military.
What buffer zone, the SurenoS in East Oakland we’re from 53 thru 59 Ave, & they Waz in the 60s too… the 70s were considered the real buffer zones👌💯
Shout out to York St, 22nd Hogs, 22nd & Bryant, Shotwell, SFM, LNS, 21st & Alabama, Natoma, Ghost Town and all other cliques between 21st to 30th Mishone! RIP to all the fallen soldados and much love to those incarcerated... ✊🏼
21st & Alabama rip to my big homie Rhino
@@cheguevara7764 RIP big homie Monster from 21st and Alabama too 🙏🏼
Rip Chino Bambino LNS
$hout out 2 the BIG ONe9 MISSION D 2200 HUNNbLOCK DPL MONEY CLICK 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
My primo was the first Sureño to die from 19th st Ernesto Flores 🙏🏽 TAPPING IN FROM L.A. 818
Was it Flores -Navez ?
RIP to your primo, did he ever tell you stories about how it was out there in SF?
@@esepetesegura my dad side is from FRISCO and mom side from LA I heard the story when I went to visit he was a founder of 19st. My primo is chato from 24st mission and chino from cypress park in SSF they know the history better than me Homie
@@esepetesegura gracias Homie 🙏🏽
@@esepetesegura I have family Norteño and Sureño in Frisco
Damn video after video great live this morning! These notifications are a trip. I just got the notification lol have a good day fellas 💯
Born and raised in the Mision Back Streets Varrio Hampshire. The surenos only had 20th st to 16th st. Nortenos were every where else.
Surs had The tL’s as well. Till this day
never seen a buster hood in LA
@@vallero2097 LA was already populated and already had all the varrios set in place before the Bay was less populated and all you levas was moving in and paisas
@@vallero2097 you see us in the 209 scrappa
It's completely different experience if your a visiting da city, than growing up in $AN FRAN
Yes Flaco is right I remember when 11st went from brown pride to Surenos. Damn that brought me back.
And used to click up with 18th st on 26th St and Folsom. And they still used to get rush by homies lol
Precita Park
26th and folsom they was brown rags but then some went blue and sme went red also boxer and colocho were twins or brothers boxer was a homie and colocho was sur I remember them 🐈
@@christianaltamirano4095 lol yeah that's why they left duce6 kept getting rushed by the homies 🤣
That’s right early morning spill 👍 thanks guys keep up the good work
Rojo and the convicts perspective has been coming with that heat. Rojo is a real one .
Talk about 11st. On 26th and with 18st on Garfield park. How they used to be on 24th and folsom posted. That was gang war
26 and lucky
I remember reading this article, also the comments about the misconception of how nortenos were living it big with money and surenos were all poor immigrants
In 1988 I was sitting in my car, with 2 surenos on Mission st. and Silver ave. When 3 car loads of vatos from east side Daly City attacked us with beer bottles and bats, I got stabbed once, I learned later they were looking for homies from Mission, whom they always didn't get along with back then. And in the early 80's my dad was talking in the phone booth on 24th street and Mission, East Side Daly City vatos attacked the Mission homies, they broke my dad's arm with a pipe, I guess they thought he was a youngster.
80's Cholos from Mission and Daly City were more about rumbles with bats , chains, etc .90's more about gun play .
Were you in a Dodge dart or something like that on the right side of mission st on the corner of silver? And there was a party up the hill going up towards silver? And they broke the rear back door window etc?
@@Ugdlf a small brown car, a 78 Opel ( Buick/Isuzu)l, all the windows were smashed, yes it was on the right side of Mission st. Yes I believe there was a party on silver, because we were standing on the corner watching the girls driving by, I heard the same night some other dudes got jumped, breaking one of their arm's.
Whiz burger 🍔 was on point in the 90s but you had to have ur head on a swivel. 18th&s.van was those foos strong hold
We got Sfm On mission Lns on Capp. Shotty mob on shotwell . York street gang . Hamp st and Potrero gang. all just on 24th street then 22 B . 21st Folsom 21st and Alabama. 30th mission 31st nsr and E mob. Like all with in 1 mile of the mission district. X4 oh yeah and 14th and Natoma
@@McKeeNJackson we got hella different blocks in one neighborhood but we all kinda hate each other . It’s sucks but fuck it . Sf is pretty much a red on red city. Like 60% now
@@goldblooded9er219 big cap there’s not even that many nortes out anymore.
Take that comment down. Who is you to speak on the hood . You weird😂
🔥🔥Tortas Cubanas on 23rd.and Mission 🥪🥪
Are they good and always wanted to get one? I’ll have to get one next time I’m in the Mission.
Let’s not forget about the Excelsior Mob and SFM/LNS gang war in the 90s. There are at least 10
Articles on that. Problem with that one is everybody is related. Now the kids of those wars are all hanging out. There were fights in the 70s and 80s also but they weren’t gun related until the 90s. Varrio Grande Excelsior and Crocker park came together as one hood in the late 80s. Excelsior is an older Barrio also. They were more about hustling and pimping in the 90s. But they definitely protect there hood and still do as such. I have family in both and glad that bullshit is over.
Yup and you’re right and glad the bs is over.
Plus SF it’s all red on blue and red on red and red on projects then blue on blue. We all hate each other out here 😂
And projects on projects 😂
Surenos we’re known to talk to the police, it was confirmed to me when my high school homie became sfpd!
I like the video but do not like the propaganda pushed in the articles that were read… won’t go too into detail I’ll keep my input short;but I know a lot of us from up North are not racist and a lot of our parents are either born in Mex or are First Generation Chicanos. Truth be told I have homeboys who are born in Mexico and they were treated as equal never less than the Chicano homies…
Awesome video and break down guys had a busy week last week time to get caught up on the content!!!!
19st remember when estabamos in war con 11st 18st 22B 24st lns ms13 remember we can walk to 16th Street because the RVs till we took them out remember when N had every f****** block 30st to 24st 16st 14st 19th to Dolores we had to look out for the MS-13 it was hard for us but we still put it down por nuestro barrio RIP Nicoyita miss you perro
19 st the most respected block in all of the mission because they held it down against everyone! My uncles were from 19th. When I was coming up 16th was the deep sur hood full of youngins which I was around. 19 had all the big homies that paved the way though
Good Post Northerners San Fran Mission 24st 22nd Bryant E-mobb 30 st San Bruno posse etc 19st 16st Surenos
Cool video. I grew up in the outer mission and visitacion valley. I met alot of nortenos and miss the rush of cooling and mobbin around with my homies . Pulling bitches, popping bottles, getting high. Got into some fights got shot at once by Geneva and bayshore. Im glad I never chose to prove myself to anyone which could have led me to spend my future in the pin.
Saludos BIG FLACO and SEÑOR ROJO. TAPPING IN from work. Let's get it 💪
Shoutout to 19th and 16th
@@SfcX9 outnumbered and most hated over there but they been holdin it down since the 80s thats no joke 💯
I do agree with your perspective flaco, there was no direction from the big homies in the early 90’s and IF there would have been OH man… I think the mission would have a war zone. Love your channel bro, keep pushing that positive message.
Ghost-town 30th Street
30th NSH
24th Street and cap LNS
24th and Shotwell Shotty Mob
26th and Mission aka 26 Family
24 Cypress
22nd and Bryant
22nd and Folsom
22nd and Florida
24th and Hampshire
21st and Alabama
24th and York
Precita park
23rd and treat
24th Harrison
14th Natoma
14th Woodward
And if I'm not mistaken I think Valencia and
Bartlett I think had some homies
Ect Ect pretty much every other block was homies everything except 19th Street and 16th those were Scraps blocks but just to keep you updated it still fucking wild as fuck in the Mission.
As for 11th Street I don't even know what the fuck that is I heard it was just some scraps I couldn't get into 16th or 19th
Is there still a lot of northerners in SF? Just asking cause i always see a lot of comments saying surenos have took over.
E-Mob (Excelsior)
24th and Florida
31st
X4
@@El650Jefe nah. Majority is still Norte.
@@suckafreetv8336 crazy. Yes they do. Excelsior Park .. Generations Deep of Norte
The crooked cop who wrote this story exaggerated on nortenos living a privilege life although being someone who was raised and still living in the mission I will say that alot of nortes I met from 24 weren't living in the mission but just wanted to be cool n and hang out n do dirt here. And some surenos didn't live in the mission either. Those cops were working with surenos and identified with them more cuz those cops were immigrants themselves. Ps there were alot crooked undercover cops back then in la mission.
It was probably bitch ass Detective Molina. He was the head of the gang task force.
"you can walk 5 blocks in 3 minutes"
You 7'0 tall bruh 😂
To all dem folks that grew up together in da Mission District but got caught up in da mix on different sides of the same side. Stay Up & Keep It Sucka Free!!!
Times have change it’s almost 2022 n SFM is more alive n active than ever in history. Just cuz u don’t see homies at the corner posting up like in the 90s don’t think u can just do what u want out here in the mission. Come to a lowrider show if u think otherwise. The sureños have no solid ground out here n this is all homie land from the backstreets to the frontlines.
@@suckafreetv8336 that’s what u n the public thinks
@@suckafreetv8336 I’m from the mission homie n really in the field. Advancement demands change n some stood stuck in the 90s n 2000s
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@@suckafreetv8336 I’m frm SFM. If u ain’t taped in u just don’t know, like I said is 2022 almost, the homies move completely diff n if u ain’t in the circle ⭕️ u just go by what u see
@@ocg2558 lol I been tapped in since elementary 😂😂 and I don’t know what circle you talking about
Tapped in!!!! Yo Rojo, I'm in serious risk of being fired 😅😅😅 second time boss says get your check from them . 😅😅
My Barber SFM!
Until the mid 1990’s Sur and Norte shared the same Mainline, yards and tiers at San Bruno Jail and at 850 Bryant on the 7th and 6th Floors. Then 20th st started acting a fool with 19th st and that was it. But Norte was always stronger in the city and in Daly City. And BtW most Cops were 49er fans, hated the cowboys and grew up with and went to school with Nortenos from all over the city and Daly City. So them Surenos were screwed from both ends.
Grew up in the Mission,went to school on 29th& church. I was in 6th grd.(92)&my friend was gunned down on Muni. playing G.i. Joe's 1day gone the nxt. Smh
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Almost at 18k, way to go! Keep up the good job 👍
60's immigration resulted in a 80's - 90's baby boom in the Mission District. Kids entered a world and culture the hard working parents did not understand. There were just a lot of young people running around. The City and the Mission Disrict in particulr had long a long history of producing tough rebellious kids. Everybody knew everybody else because everybody lived on top of each other and went to school with each other. If I didn't know you, I knew your cousin or sister. It was great for social networking, but also enabled decade old rivalries and grudges to fester.
But now those pads all go for two million. And you can buy $14 pork chops. But have to look around to find some tortillas.
My Older brother was President of the Sir Lords. But they go back to the 70's and 80's
Was he Chinese looking and named Johnny?He had pimple marks and they use to hangout at Winchills donuts on 23rd and Mission.
@@jacknjill3000 You must be talking about johnny hepa.
I also want allied with someone that said he took over the Sir Lords one time on a fb post,
04:33 on point, hiding behind paisa and snitching… that’s how they established, no matter how much they try to deny it. There’s plenty of paperwork on them. And they can still go back to their hood and kick it after they snitch on the homies… smh
All my dads side of the family landed in the mission from El Salvador 🇸🇻 in the 80s, if not for him following my mom to la..me & my siblings would’ve most likely grew up in the mission with all our cousins..ironically enough we grew up in East Hollywood in MS hood..this story trips me out, never knew this history…only clicked on this bcuz i recently reconnected with my fam up north since my dads passing, just was curious on the history of the neighborhood my family is from.
Lol crazy mine is the opposite. My moms followed my pops from LA to the mission and my parents are also from 🇸🇻 ✊🏽
All yu salvas do is copy chicano culture
Opposite as well. If it weren't for my old man who knows where my brother's and I be today if alive. We left El Salvador for L.A in '82 Pico-Union on Hoover & S 12th , birthplace of La Mara. He pulled us out in 88 and lived in Frisco ever since.
Rest in peace!! To my boy eddie payaso castro!! San fran mission!!💯💪❤
Damn Rojo crack me up when he mentioned shoes.. LoL 🤣
R.I.P. to my uncle Bugs SFM O.G.
Don’t forget the big eleven street X1ST.
What up Toxhdown
Primera Que Todo, I'd like to send my love n respect to you firme lado
Are any of you familiar with Dolores Park? That whole entire neighborhood back there is reputed to be HAUNTED... Cuz I used to attend Mission High School back in the 1990's, and both me and my fellow classmates (plus a few teachers and staff) have all seen a ghost there on the 4th floor... The ghost is that of a former teacher or student who usually appears to students who are in their Senior year or to janitors working there late at night. There are like some supply rooms and a few old disused classrooms or workshops on the 4th floor that were closed off while I was attending there back then. From the best of my memory; it appeared to look like a semi-transparent female figure of short stature, dressed in winter attire (a red and white Christmas-patterned sweater and brown bell-bottom corduroy pants), and sports a bowl-shaped pageboy hairstyle, holding a binder against her chest. She looked like someone from right out of the late 1960's or early 1970's. We couldn't quite see her face cuz she had her head down (as if she was in despair) and all her hair was covering it. This was during our lunch break period at noon, and we had noticed her standing down the hallway for quite some time. What's odd was that she was standing at the opposite end of the hallway from us, right by the stairway and away from the big glass windows that allowed for the sunlight to shine through on the 4th floor. She didn't move or even say a thing, and just stood there that whole time while we were there. It didn't strike us that she was a GHOST, until we had made our way back down to the ground floor by the courtyard area. And when we finally DID realize what we had just saw; we grew pale in the face, hauled our asses right outta there and ran all the way back to our classroom at like TWIN-TURBO SPEED!!! There are rumored to be ghosts also in the gym areas and even the locker/shower rooms as well, but I'm not gonna get into all that spooky shit. I heard that the school was built right over an Indian cemetery. Early builders who worked on building the school way back then, have even discovered the bones of Native Americans!
I work at Sanchez Elementary and Everett Middle skool around the corner. This area is fasho haunted. Lots of bloodshed from the colonial days of the colonizers with the native Ohlone. My jefita works at Mission High and I was just there last week where everyone was gone and bruh lemme tell u i got goosebumps. It was dark and eerie, def felt spirits around me. Old ass grounds built over stolen and sacred land. Its a trip. Dolores Park used to be a bullring too back when the Spaniards ran this area. Lots of history here
The whole Mission District is full of wandering souls fr a time long ago & they still don't realize that they met their end so they replay for eternity unless freed by reaching out to those who no one now knows but what also peers through those gateways an entity as evil as evil spells, Beware of Those.. Dust off dem Demons and pray for misguided souls.
Off subject but that one track "once upon a time on a mission" goes hard. You can tell its nothing but northerners on that track.
Yo flaco in rojo both of you vatos made good spill love u guys on UA-cam .keep doing u guys spill
RIP Trenzas 31 Rip lil Man rip fantasma XXX1
Thats Christiania Sunnyvale California
The 1209 RN that's real
I heard from upstate sureno is that if they told on a northerner to get them locked up or put away it was ok..and I heard that from more than one. It was a tactic they had to use in the beginning to get as many off the streets as possible that’s why a lot of up north cats don’t respect upstate sur at all. It’s one thing to have a enemy and still have respect towards them but it’s another thing to have a enemy that has no morals in that type of lifestyle.
Cap 😂😂😂
You guys should do an episode on the mid-2000s when MS-13 started hitting the mission violently. Seem like the mission got kind of rolled up after that 07ish violence
@@SfcX9 I went to school with Ronny
@@SfcX9 stop cappin y’all got locked up😂 y’all been getting smoked
MS was killing bustas and they dads
the red jeep was daly city locos nothsider wasnt it a jeep shamari
Lower mission for the longest time was really some killas, not a place you wanted to get caught slippin, they’ve really fell off the last 15 years though. Really the only Upstaters in The West Bay that weren’t punks
Realest shit you said G lowers was literally the only skrap hood in the peninsula that was with the bizz. Now they completely fell off and still getting shot at 😂
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You guys see my comment about the “nuestra famila” picture. The guy in the comments said gage took the pic.
@@aconvictsperspective4196 I was asking if anyone knows the names of the guys in that really old pic where they are joking the “Nuestra Familia “ sign. Some guy in the comment said he took the pic & named them all off. I was wondering if you thought the guy was legit.
Couldn’t even wear red or blue growing up. Shit was real. 11-19 st were 13’s and 22-30st were 14’s. Also 20’th and mission was ms13. There’s wasn’t no place anywhere like the mission it was lit besides all the gangbangin. Because of gentrification the gangbangin isn’t no where near what it was. Surenos were the ones that were always the most deadly because there was more Nortenos. It’s normal and happens even in prison with gangs like the bulldogs being outnumbered but are known for
Puttin in work. 22b was the deadliest norte blk though they where the true rivals of 19 while 24th were to 16th.
That was our life to kill or get kill ,Simpson from 13 went to my high school to kill me
You went to Lincoln?
@@larrydickman8834 yes I did but went to school not class worst mistake in life
I went to Lincoln to early 90s, I remember this group of cholos that were called SFC you remember them?
Yup I went to Lincoln too. Simpson used to wear them ugly chanclas like a paisa. Me & my homie Bugsy from L.N.S hit the boy up & shook him. He wasn't with the smoke. S.F.C was a wannabee norteno gang with rag heads that ran it. They were middle eastern dudes & Bugsy smashed on E.J. at the 48 bus stop & ran like a bitch. They weren't about that life.
S/0 to SFM, LNs, Shoty mob, 22 Hoggs, 22 Bryant, NsL 14th, FsM, Flo blk, H blk, 21ABL, York mob, Hamp blk, P mob, PPL, VsE, 30th, 31 NsR, E mob, Money Mob, 6st lokos…. IYKYK!!!!
I lived in in the heart of the Mission, SF from 1964- 1997
I left a lot of blood on those city streets
& in the alleys.
Nicoya , Big Rhino Chile RIP. SHOUT OUT TO THEM HOMIES IF THERE STILL AROUND
LMAO..PULLING THEM "LINES" WAS JUST AS FUN AS PULLING DA DOOR OPEN IN DA BACK OF DA "DOUBLE DUTCH" BUS DOORS OPEN TO STOP DA BUS AND GET OFF..
Flaco drinking that peace tea ? Lol
I remember this article when I was in HS....
Wow, the risks of living that lifestyle, be sure that's what you want!! Crazy stuff!
Send love to the dancers guild.
TAPPING IN G SHOOT IT 💥
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30th St. MOB we were at war with D.C. Diablo park in the 80s then south siders in the 90s
There's still bad blood there
You guys are on a roll
Trip out tho the dude glen made a statement on the dudes that shot him from this very same article …. They really worked hand in hand with the narcs
Shout out to da OG'z Eddie De Soto and Pollo Loco from SFM....
Hell yeah Mission I grew up there shaoow
U might know my tío chewy. Guerrero.
Theres still stuff that pops off between both sides. Me and some black n hispanic brothas that teach the word of God on 16th n Mission keep our ears open. We get word back that both sides still kill each other but its not on a every week basis. Due to gentrification and everybody getting 3 strikes, indictments and so forth, the population of gang members has decreased significantly. Still dangerous, but itll be a beautiful and righteous thing to see all my blacks n hispanics come together. All praises to YAHAWAH BAHASHAM YAHAWASHI.
@@joogullae3456 it means he’s a woke Hebrew Israelite not a Christian
Daniel Ban APTTMH 👊
Some straight fire 🔥
Laundry Me and you.....
Tapped in GENTE saludos 💯🙏🏾
I’m from Oakland I got some homies from la mission some from capp some from shotwell and them foos with the bizz
LNS
didnt the mission have latin kings back in the 70's it seems like i remember teen angels or lowrider having pictures of latin kings back then.
Interesting how no one disputed 22B being the elite gang of the mission
22 was def the hardest norte gang but if we’re talking the most violent it has to be 20th then 19th then 22nd offtop.
@@purplesky4157 20th had innocent victims they were violent but they didn’t pull that on 22B or the other norteños like they should have been… 19 st lost too many ppl and never really retaliated like that both 20th n 19th got spanked in the 90s and 2000s after 19th got caballo they started getting dropped
@@regularoljoe1989 🤣bro this is big cap. Nortenos were def getting the worst of it because there were so many of em the surenos were always on go. I saw this with my own eyes. Also the innocent bystander thing is a double edged sword. If your from the city You would know there would be hella wannabes claiming norte. U can’t just wear red, kick it with nortes, call people scrap and not expect to get the business ain’t no nh I don’t bang after that. From what I saw every norte hood besides 22 and sometimes 14th were really frontline.19th st never retaliated😂😂😂😂? Never tried it on 22? 🤣😂😂U gotta be norte. 19th and 20th had huuuuge indictments not to far back because of all the crimes they committed no norte hood has had it to that scale because they weren’t doing what 19th and 20th were doing. Also 20th we’re without a doubt the most savage. Look at their crimes. This is all public knowledge on the internet sf chronicle, mission local , police records etc….. norte hoods were always more about the party people joined just to feel safe because they had numbers surenos were always on attack mode ain’t no false claiming cuz to much came with it. Both hoods have legends but surenos def had more hood legends than nortes without if doubt because of the work they put in.
@@purplesky4157 scraps were getting slapped in the face and then shot in broad daylight with no getbacks.
When the muni bus was only 35 cents damn I miss the city but I'm glad Im no longer there
Tapped all the way in
What's up brotha! Have a good day!
@@richDM650 likewise bro
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Its Two-Two B Not 20-2 B
I heard that mario cop guy was ex ms and had a tat on his hand
I grew up in the mission seen a lot of crazy shit that's for sure. Respect big homie 💪🏽
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Not just 90s all the way into 2012
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What’s up.
Great stuff guys. Legit story!
@@estevanluis Thx so much!
Flavor is see a gang of Asian at 11st 90. At the Pizza store
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Rojo when you gonna talk about LMT TLS AND SSL there's articles about them. Lmt was hated among surenos cuz they used to bullies small surenos varrios. Now lmt aint shit and its fading way slowly.
Come on hugo victor and Omar that was the past there youngsters are weak
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