Black Bear Forge has a handy solution for that at 1:55 . He just gets a cheap framing square and cuts off almost all of one leg, except for about an inch (or less). This leaves you with a “hook square” with measurements down one side and a short, squared hook on one end to pull up against the end of your steel. Can also use it on hot steel and it won’t burn like the paint and urethane on your tape measure. He’s actually got a video on how to make it because he says he gets a lot of questions on where he got it. Harbor Freight will sell you a square that is perfect for a couple bucks.
I have found if you put a quarter-half inch of powder in the bottom and then start filling with the ball bearings, you can smack the cannister on the table and the ball bearings will fall to the bottom with powder all around them.
I love your coffee cup! I also appreciate how you thoroughly explain what you are doing so someone like myself has never attempted blacksmithing of any kind but loves to watch the process, knows what you are doing.
That’s brilliant!! Love your work and videos. What might look good, for a future project, is a progression from small to larger and larger bearing balls.
You made huge progress, man! Watch your channel since about 4-5 years, and maaan, you became sooo much more thorough, if you understand what I mean. I hated you some times, for NOT doing stuff, ignoring this and that... ALL GONE. GREAT
Just a note for removing the seams in your tubing, fireball tool made a vid a couple of years ago. He used,if i remember correctly a 3/4 piece of steel sized to the tubung with a tool steel or carbide cutter placed appropriately for the seam and a draw bolt threaded through it and it shaved the seam right out of it. Might be simething to look into if you want. Just a thought. 👍🤝
That Spring handled Mallet u used to remove material from welding gave me an IDEA FOR YOUR NEXT knife project. "USE IT FOR A KNIFE TOO" Bulky enough for a chopper type knife handle, I reckon
Those are called chipping hammers! They’re used to knock off the flux coating used in stick welding (the steel needs a shield from oxygen while it’s molten otherwise it’ll just turn into spongy garbage). They’re actually fairly inexpensive due to being relatively easy to make, so I wouldn’t doubt that someone’s used the material from an old one for something cool! :D
It sucks you had to reheattreat the blade but at the same time im glad it made the video because ive come across a similar problem when scribing my lines and im pretty sure that particular piece of steel got put in my future me problem stack that sometimes becomes a never look at again stack lol but i might try digging it out and seeing if it i can straighten and rework.
It would be cool if you did a ball bearing blade with just the bearings. It would likely be more labor intensive to get a solid forge weld but it is a unique final pattern. Just the chrome plating on yhe ball bearings stand out from the dark steel so it's sort of an inverse Damascus pattern, but it's pretty cool.
Very nice, should be an interesting pattern with the tight twist! Have you ever done any Wootz steel, where you melt your different steels in a crucible? I always thought that would be a fun process to try, at least you know you’ll always be starting with a solid billet of material.
About that “always” part. That’s total bs. Crucible steel is VERY COMPLEX. After the melt, it needs to cool off AS SLOW AS POSSIBLE, or gas bubbles will form making it almost completely unusable except by someone that already understands the materials’ flaws. Trust me I’ve tried… 😅😅 twice!
Have you done much Rockwell testing on blades yet? I’d be interested to see some comparisons with different quench oils and metals and see what kind of numbers you get.
I've done some testing, but not as much as I had planned. Still need to do that. One of the issues I ran into was the temperature sensitivity of the machine. The room I have it in can fluctuate 30 degrees between night time temperature and warming it up during the day if I'm in there using it. That was a circumstance I didn't anticipate and it has precluded the simple use of the tester.
@@FireCreekForge yeah no doubt, I suppose they are very precision movements and can really effect the accuracy and legitimacy of the test if it’s too cold or whatever.
I always wondered for removing the can, If you dunked it in water for 0.5 seconds or sprayed the can down with water, would it help remove the can? That or line the can with paper soaked in paint, then a layer of dry paper to prevent the knife steel from touching paint, would the paper / paint act as a barrier?
@@FireCreekForge I'll Subscribe and keep watching your your channel, not only beacuse I like what you are doing but, if you ever get around to trying the paint / paper, I'd be interested to see if it works. 👍
I’m curious why not use 52100 powder with added pure nickel powder to it. Wouldn’t having the same steel threw out the billet be ideal; especially for heat treatment. Obviously I’m not questioning or judging your work, I’m more curious than anything. Yes I’m just now making it to watch the mini knife build series. 😉
Just Curious. Been watching & following pretty Numerous knife making Videos here and watched many in d process POV. WHAT IVE NOTICED IS MOST ASIAN ORIGIN Knife makers do their stuff while Seated, while western origin craftsmen do it standing. What would be safer Physiologically or what would The Docs prefer you do?
I find That very few of these people ever used a knife!!! they get a design down they like but lose the concept of functionality ... I do respect a Remington clip-point tip I never see anyone making a real skinner .. not those pointy ones that stab the other hand as you skin a deer...Just once I would like to see someone make a straight-back kukri!!! 12 or so inches ... Just saying!!! Hell, I guess it would not sell to the mornic masses that "collect knives???? But i would buy it !!! Please 5160 only !!! That you did not take the temper completely out of ???
If you make a knife from 5 hundred thousand small iron beads instead of 5 thousand, the result still does not change. Why do you insist on making ugly-looking knives? How about you work on the model a little? Whether you make tactical knives or produce knife models suitable for multi-purpose use, you cannot produce cheap and ugly-looking kitchen utensils.
Thank you for shielding our eyes whilst welding 😄
I forgot how much I enjoy your walk through and process
Black Bear Forge has a handy solution for that at 1:55 . He just gets a cheap framing square and cuts off almost all of one leg, except for about an inch (or less). This leaves you with a “hook square” with measurements down one side and a short, squared hook on one end to pull up against the end of your steel. Can also use it on hot steel and it won’t burn like the paint and urethane on your tape measure. He’s actually got a video on how to make it because he says he gets a lot of questions on where he got it. Harbor Freight will sell you a square that is perfect for a couple bucks.
Great video as always, I enjoy them.
Thanks you sir
You’ve used the same process for the canister for awhile now it works don’t fix what’s not broken.
Thank you Sir for this video
Thanks! I'm ever trying to increase the quality and precision, which you'll probably notice in this build. Thanks for watching!
It never fails to amaze me how many times you can twist the billet without it necking and snapping.
I know! I have twisted and end off of these billets several times, but the ends get cut off anyway
I have found if you put a quarter-half inch of powder in the bottom and then start filling with the ball bearings, you can smack the cannister on the table and the ball bearings will fall to the bottom with powder all around them.
Thanks for the tip!
Great video can’t wait to see the results of your hard work. 🔪
Thanks!
I love your coffee cup! I also appreciate how you thoroughly explain what you are doing so someone like myself has never attempted blacksmithing of any kind but loves to watch the process, knows what you are doing.
Thanks I appreciate it!
Great to see all the prep that goes into the canister. Also it's amazing how much you can twist that!
ohwyeah balls again, thx for showing the process, always glad to see that :) A new blade came to light, I'm eager to see what you made of it! cheers!
Yeah I wish they came in cubes, but alas...
@@FireCreekForgethat would be interesting to see
That’s brilliant!! Love your work and videos. What might look good, for a future project, is a progression from small to larger and larger bearing balls.
Cool how you used the saw to vibrate
Another awesome project/knife! I'm looking forward to seeing the end result! Thanks again Elijah!
Loved the video !
You made huge progress, man! Watch your channel since about 4-5 years, and maaan, you became sooo much more thorough, if you understand what I mean. I hated you some times, for NOT doing stuff, ignoring this and that... ALL GONE. GREAT
I enjoyed watching the video 🥰
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice work!
Thank you!
Steel shot from a shot gun shell works really nice as well. Made a Canister Damascus lock knife from them.
I can hear that Texas wind lol. It was windy as heck for a bit there.
Yes sir, that Arctic blast was on its way!
Thank you
You bet!
Just a note for removing the seams in your tubing, fireball tool made a vid a couple of years ago. He used,if i remember correctly a 3/4 piece of steel sized to the tubung with a tool steel or carbide cutter placed appropriately for the seam and a draw bolt threaded through it and it shaved the seam right out of it. Might be simething to look into if you want. Just a thought. 👍🤝
Yep, learned that from the same video! I have used that technique several times. It works really well!
I love my surface block, and I hate my surface block sometimes lol I am excited to see the pattern!
Haha yeah for sure. Thanks man
That Spring handled Mallet u used to remove material from welding gave me an IDEA FOR YOUR NEXT knife project.
"USE IT FOR A KNIFE TOO"
Bulky enough for a chopper type knife handle, I reckon
Those are called chipping hammers! They’re used to knock off the flux coating used in stick welding (the steel needs a shield from oxygen while it’s molten otherwise it’ll just turn into spongy garbage). They’re actually fairly inexpensive due to being relatively easy to make, so I wouldn’t doubt that someone’s used the material from an old one for something cool! :D
Maybe next time you could try ball-bearings then powder steel in layer's with powder steel in the bottom
Absolutely great work
It sucks you had to reheattreat the blade but at the same time im glad it made the video because ive come across a similar problem when scribing my lines and im pretty sure that particular piece of steel got put in my future me problem stack that sometimes becomes a never look at again stack lol but i might try digging it out and seeing if it i can straighten and rework.
It would be cool if you did a ball bearing blade with just the bearings. It would likely be more labor intensive to get a solid forge weld but it is a unique final pattern. Just the chrome plating on yhe ball bearings stand out from the dark steel so it's sort of an inverse Damascus pattern, but it's pretty cool.
“Surface grinding with an angle grinder” as a machinist that just sounds wrong lol. Good video though 🤙🏻 great knife
Yeah, I meant grinding out surface cracks, haha didn't come out right.
Well you've got some balls attempting a project like this....:)
I see what you did there! 🫵😉
Is it possible to make round billets with patterns on the outside? All I’ve seen is flat blades.
Very nice, should be an interesting pattern with the tight twist! Have you ever done any Wootz steel, where you melt your different steels in a crucible? I always thought that would be a fun process to try, at least you know you’ll always be starting with a solid billet of material.
Haven't tried that yet, would be fun to do that. I also want to make tamahagani steel from iron ore..
@@FireCreekForge yes, that is an interesting process to watch too. I’ve seen many old Japanese men slaving away making that stuff!
About that “always” part. That’s total bs. Crucible steel is VERY COMPLEX. After the melt, it needs to cool off AS SLOW AS POSSIBLE, or gas bubbles will form making it almost completely unusable except by someone that already understands the materials’ flaws. Trust me I’ve tried… 😅😅 twice!
Have you done much Rockwell testing on blades yet? I’d be interested to see some comparisons with different quench oils and metals and see what kind of numbers you get.
I've done some testing, but not as much as I had planned. Still need to do that. One of the issues I ran into was the temperature sensitivity of the machine. The room I have it in can fluctuate 30 degrees between night time temperature and warming it up during the day if I'm in there using it. That was a circumstance I didn't anticipate and it has precluded the simple use of the tester.
@@FireCreekForge yeah no doubt, I suppose they are very precision movements and can really effect the accuracy and legitimacy of the test if it’s too cold or whatever.
I always wondered for removing the can, If you dunked it in water for 0.5 seconds or sprayed the can down with water, would it help remove the can? That or line the can with paper soaked in paint, then a layer of dry paper to prevent the knife steel from touching paint, would the paper / paint act as a barrier?
I think the paint paper may work
@@FireCreekForge I'll Subscribe and keep watching your your channel, not only beacuse I like what you are doing but, if you ever get around to trying the paint / paper, I'd be interested to see if it works. 👍
would it be possible to cut up a couple knives made of CPM 3V and forge them into something new ?
would the metal retain its properties after this ?
Possibly, high alloy steels are not easy to forge weld however
@@FireCreekForge thank you
why dosn't the steel break when you twist it ?
It's quite malleable, but not super fragile at high temperatures, which allows forging like this
I’m curious why not use 52100 powder with added pure nickel powder to it. Wouldn’t having the same steel threw out the billet be ideal; especially for heat treatment. Obviously I’m not questioning or judging your work, I’m more curious than anything. Yes I’m just now making it to watch the mini knife build series. 😉
I'm not aware of any 52100 powdered steel, but I would certainly try it if I came across it. Thanks for watching!
When’s part 2 coming??
Hopefully this week, working on it now!
What quench oil did you use for this?
Probably Parks 50.
I used Parks 50
Back again with his HACKsaw tricks
Hahaha, yep
Just Curious.
Been watching & following pretty Numerous knife making Videos here and watched many in d process POV.
WHAT IVE NOTICED IS MOST ASIAN ORIGIN Knife makers do their stuff while Seated, while western origin craftsmen do it standing.
What would be safer Physiologically or what would The Docs prefer you do?
I don't know, great question
Do you preheat your quench oil?
I preheat the AAA, but not Parks 50.
Parks 50 doesn’t require preheat?
👍👍🌞
Part 2?
In the works!
@@FireCreekForge thanks for the reply, I'm interested in the pattern you made.
That’s the biggest height gauge/scribe I’ve ever seen…
👏👏👏👏🤜🤛
It's sad that you have to say I'm not a good wielder because of keyboard warriors people just can't be nice anymore
What metal powder did you use.
Might welders will improve your welding skills
This is a beautiful knife but not 2k worth of a knife
I find That very few of these people ever used a knife!!! they get a design down they like but lose the concept of functionality ... I do respect a Remington clip-point tip I never see anyone making a real skinner .. not those pointy ones that stab the other hand as you skin a deer...Just once I would like to see someone make a straight-back kukri!!! 12 or so inches ... Just saying!!! Hell, I guess it would not sell to the mornic masses that "collect knives???? But i would buy it !!! Please 5160 only !!! That you did not take the temper completely out of ???
Which people..?
There called ball bearings not bearing balls
Dude - just do it your style…. Don’t worry about internet haters. Idiot people who only have keyboards and cellphones and nothing else to do!
It’s all ball bearings these days…
Everything good? You sound a little depressed.
Yep, all good. Just thought I'd tone it down a little from the usual
It's nice and relaxing@@FireCreekForge
If you make a knife from 5 hundred thousand small iron beads instead of 5 thousand, the result still does not change. Why do you insist on making ugly-looking knives? How about you work on the model a little?
Whether you make tactical knives or produce knife models suitable for multi-purpose use, you cannot produce cheap and ugly-looking kitchen utensils.
You are the quench that blade twice, that piece of steel is garbage
Not true