What NBA Legends think of Toni Kukoc - The Brutal Truth

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  • @DSI090
    @DSI090 3 роки тому +457

    Kukoc was a big part of that bulls team success. Dude doesn't get credit at all from mainstream media but anybody who watched 90s basketball knows how special of a player Kukoc was.

    • @cheeseburger12
      @cheeseburger12 3 роки тому +21

      It's hard not to be overlooked on a team with the greatest player ever, the greatest rebounder over and the greatest supporting teammate ever. Toni would have gotten more respect if he didn't play with the Bulls, being a first scoring option. He would have been an All-star level player. But he was probably the 4th best player on those Bulls championship teams.

    • @GisherJohn24
      @GisherJohn24 3 роки тому +9

      i agree. A great sixth man under Rodman and pippen off the bench. Great clutch shooter and just criminally under appreciated!

    • @cheeseburger12
      @cheeseburger12 3 роки тому +6

      @@GisherJohn24 A 6th man is kind of underrating him, but for that team, it is what he was. The team was that damn good.

    • @yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy
      @yourefriendlyneighborhoodbuddy 3 роки тому

      Yup cause he was the best 3sniper for 5 years

    • @marioguti9887
      @marioguti9887 3 роки тому +4

      @@cheeseburger12 He definitely was the 4th best player, and at times when Rodman's head wasn't right, he was the third best Bulls player.

  • @boyscout7277
    @boyscout7277 3 роки тому +250

    As a Knicks fan this guy really killed us. His size and passing ability was second to none I think. A very gifted player

    • @leonidas3127
      @leonidas3127 3 роки тому +2

      "killed US" lol

    • @ag2smal
      @ag2smal 3 роки тому

      @@leonidas3127 Well, he did started with 11/12... :-D

    • @kakimuniafu450
      @kakimuniafu450 2 роки тому

      Magic Johnson...

    • @jefreetaleno323
      @jefreetaleno323 Рік тому

      Bulls and knicks rivalry in the 90s were epic!! I hated the Knicks so bad growing up I didn’t watch no spike lee movies 😅 but as adult now.. I appreciate those games and what a rivalry. Respect from this Bulls fan 💪🏽💯

  • @thebigone6071
    @thebigone6071 3 роки тому +208

    I ain’t ashamed to say it but I love Toni Kukoc. He was the man in Europe and was able to put his ego aside and come off the bench for the Bulls during their 96-98 three-peat. He could pass like no one else, had an underrated post game and could hit the three. Dude could ball and I don’t think the Bulls win all those championships without him.

    • @johnfarel3152
      @johnfarel3152 3 роки тому +9

      This is true. You have to a scorer come off the bench and with Jordan aging, I’m not sure they’d have won without him either.

    • @blankname6629
      @blankname6629 3 роки тому +2

      His post game really developed once pippen and Jordan left

    • @joselperez449
      @joselperez449 3 роки тому +7

      Thank you I agree with you 100% his passing abilities was something to watch he's a good playmaker shit happens when he's on the court,THANK'S COMMENT FROM CHICAGO...

    • @flp6954
      @flp6954 3 роки тому +3

      @@joselperez449 i agree. Greetings from Croatia

  • @bijou201
    @bijou201 3 роки тому +58

    And Toni is finally in HoF! Shame he waited so long, dunno why, wasnt fair....but he deffo deserved it! Congratulations our Pink Panther! Greetings from Split

  • @tytipton6346
    @tytipton6346 3 роки тому +192

    The fact that he SURVIVED Michael and Scottie going at him means he’s the real deal.

    • @blankname6629
      @blankname6629 3 роки тому +3

      Toni was a good player.

    • @picadie8971
      @picadie8971 3 роки тому +9

      Dude came from balkan,a war torn country,don't think it phased him about them coming at him

    • @tytipton6346
      @tytipton6346 3 роки тому +4

      @@picadie8971 true that. I knew a guy who played college from Bosnia who played college basketball in New York. He was getting carjacked one day and didn’t blink even when they shot in the car. He told me later “I am running from snipers since I am seven years old.” They actually got real polite and didn’t take his rental car.

    • @pmaigotthat7211
      @pmaigotthat7211 3 роки тому

      That was a massacre. Theres no silver lining. It was a "welcome to the nba all this euro shit is irrelevant"

    • @tytipton6346
      @tytipton6346 3 роки тому +1

      @@pmaigotthat7211 I hear you. I really happy for the success that Toni had in the NBA! I have zero ties to Eastern Europe other than friends I grew up with. But for some reason in all my history and international relations classes, from junior high to college, I always got randomly assigned to research and write about conflicts in the former Yugoslavia. It was really hard to read about.
      Basketball has always been my escape from real life. Happy for his success.

  • @kenwright233391
    @kenwright233391 3 роки тому +402

    Kukoc deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

    • @tomholfield8781
      @tomholfield8781 3 роки тому +15

      He was good, but personally I dont think he was that good.

    • @kenwright233391
      @kenwright233391 3 роки тому +71

      @@tomholfield8781
      If it was solely based on Kukoc NBA career, I'd agree. But the Hall of Fame for basketball isn't only for NBA accomplishments. It's for Basketball. Kukoc is arguably the most accomplished European Basketball Player. And he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame for that. Along with his accomplishments in the NBA.

    • @tomholfield8781
      @tomholfield8781 3 роки тому +5

      @@kenwright233391 i completely understand what you're saying. How many hall of famers are in the HOF that didn't play in the nba? Ive not kept up with basketball in many years.

    • @rkf304
      @rkf304 3 роки тому +31

      Friendly reminder: Dino radja and vlade divac are in the HoF.

    • @bucksatanII
      @bucksatanII 3 роки тому +32

      If Dino Raja is in the HoF then Kukoc should be

  • @JGARCIA415
    @JGARCIA415 3 роки тому +101

    It’s unforgivable that he did not have his own episode on The Last Dance

    • @Sanderus
      @Sanderus 3 роки тому +12

      They would have to admit that the Bulls and Jordan specifically royally messed up in Indiana series. Everything was going in for Kukoc and was not given the deciding shot. Jordan got it and it was the off night offensively for MJ. Oh well, at least we got a great Game 7 because of it :D

    • @normajeaneason6983
      @normajeaneason6983 3 роки тому +4

      @@Sanderus Remember Jordan decided what was in the last dance and what wasn't and the miss shot was in the last dance. I give him credit for that. Indiana miss an opportunity.

    • @radioactivehands
      @radioactivehands 2 роки тому +3

      Totally agree, and that would be an incredible story. From being hated by the two best players on the team to being such an important part of the 3peat Bulls

    • @wongjoman1227
      @wongjoman1227 2 роки тому

      May be just like Luc...there will be another vids 😒

  • @8FrenKY8
    @8FrenKY8 3 роки тому +66

    Thank you for showing such love to our legends Toni and Dražen!
    Mad respect for your knowledge and love for the game in general as well!

    • @outofair1
      @outofair1 3 роки тому

      I remember them from Šibenka Jugoplastika, Cibona ... still have goospots ...

  • @ManWhoKnewTooLittle
    @ManWhoKnewTooLittle 3 роки тому +18

    As a croatian, I wall get proud when I see people giving props to Toni. Amazing player

  • @dwigg7700
    @dwigg7700 3 роки тому +65

    Toni always seemed cool af, like a laid back regular guy. He was always one of my favorites.

    • @ceegun
      @ceegun 3 роки тому +6

      Dalmatian mentality...

    • @tamilashultz9676
      @tamilashultz9676 3 роки тому

      @@ceegun No, he did not have a Dalmatian mentality.

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 3 роки тому

      @@tamilashultz9676 Not on the court.

    • @tamilashultz9676
      @tamilashultz9676 3 роки тому

      @@stevem2323 Agreed. He's a gentle giant off of the court.

  • @massimilianobelloni5613
    @massimilianobelloni5613 3 роки тому +30

    My friends and me where playing basketball in early '90s and Tony Kukoc was our idol

    • @fidelsolis6070
      @fidelsolis6070 3 роки тому +1

      Mine in the .I'd 90s. I even had the toni kukoc shoes with white nad green but then a sprqmg my Ankle.

    • @brentmonkhouse6638
      @brentmonkhouse6638 3 роки тому +1

      You guys gotta b croatian???

    • @ihercr5333
      @ihercr5333 3 роки тому +1

      @brent Monkhouse No they are not :) Pretty sure Massimilliano is from Italy and for Fidel I'am not sure. Greece or maybe also Italy.

    • @dnodna5094
      @dnodna5094 3 роки тому +1

      @@brentmonkhouse6638 Massimiliano seems Italian guy. Before NBA career Toni was in Italy playing for Benetton Treviso. In that period he won Mister Europa award, an European Player of the Year Award. Three in a row! No one did it before or after him. Simply, a great player!

  • @e24mpwr
    @e24mpwr 3 роки тому +69

    Tony was a prototype for what you see a lot in the NBA today, and I agree with Charles Barkley that he (and the Bulls) would be devastating in today's NBA. He absolutely deserves the HoF. He provided stretch that allowed MJ and Scotty a lot of freedom they wouldn't have had with a more average player in that spot.

    • @mikei6895
      @mikei6895 3 роки тому +5

      He would destroy in todays league and if you dropped him in the 80's he would be on Bird's level

    • @e24mpwr
      @e24mpwr 3 роки тому +6

      @@mikei6895 I dunno about Bird, but there wouldn't be any argument about HoF. He (like Pippen and MJ) was a straight up killer.

    • @pmaigotthat7211
      @pmaigotthat7211 Рік тому +1

      @@mikei6895 not even close to bird stop it

  • @mirkocapeta387
    @mirkocapeta387 3 роки тому +21

    In Europe, Toni Kukoc is god. For fans from europe he is our european Magic. His status in europe is like Jordan, Kobe or LeBron in USA

  • @bijou201
    @bijou201 3 роки тому +17

    Extremely underrated guy. Humble, cool, down to earth, never selfish ego player, mental strength on max, the greatest european basketball player, amazing athlete, amazing skills, high iq, great vision, a true killer... when i see who is in HoF already and he's not - makes me really sad! and in The Last Dance they should have made an episode about him... they barely mentioned him and his contribution (basically stuff how jordan and pippen wanted to show "their point" to jerry), and instead of him they put Kerr on that poster (nothing against him, i like him and his work). All in all - it's really not fair. The things what he had done in Europe is just a big wow! Many ppl from USA dont even know that and never seen his days in Europe.

    • @a.s.4077
      @a.s.4077 2 роки тому

      Kerr himself said he feels embarassed that ESPN cropped out Kukoc but had him on the poster.

    • @smrtfasizmu6161
      @smrtfasizmu6161 2 роки тому

      Dražen Petrović was better than him, Luka Dončić is better than him, Dirk Nowitski, Nikola Jokić are also better than him.

  • @jesusdeeez370
    @jesusdeeez370 3 роки тому +17

    Growing up in Chicago the Croatian sensation was one of those all around players you strive to be

  • @alo.5141
    @alo.5141 3 роки тому +23

    This cat SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the HOF years ago! 6'10/11 ball handler and playmaker and 3 level scorer who was an MVP and won multiple championships in Europe before becoming a 3 time NBA champ... GIVE THIS MAN HIS DUE!!
    side note.... I met him back in '01 when he played for the ATL Hawks...cool as ice, talked to me for like 10 mins before taking off in his Jeep.... I ended catching a cold from him though 😑

  • @giolee1274
    @giolee1274 3 роки тому +27

    Extremely underrated. Extremely.

    • @borisinchains
      @borisinchains 3 роки тому +1

      Not here in Europe, not in Croatia

    • @oldmanballer5088
      @oldmanballer5088 2 роки тому +1

      @@borisinchains you’re right but Americans under rate him tremendously

  • @vkubica
    @vkubica 3 роки тому +61

    Toni is one of the European all.time greats.

  • @drewelliott9062
    @drewelliott9062 3 роки тому +12

    I was a huge fan of Kukoc when i was growing up. Thanks for the video!

  • @sly11benal7
    @sly11benal7 3 роки тому +6

    Big fan!! I grew up Bulls fan since 92. Toni Kukoc huge part of the dynasty!

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 3 роки тому +32

    "How good was Toni Kukoc?"
    Well he was good enough to get game deciding plays drawn for him over Scottie Pippen! That's how good The Croatian Sensation was!

  • @bradgaines
    @bradgaines 3 роки тому +115

    What an insanely talented team when Kukoc is your 4th best player.

    • @bradgaines
      @bradgaines 3 роки тому +2

      @Curly Que That would be a great debate and podcast topic.

    • @NickPR87
      @NickPR87 3 роки тому +16

      Craziest part is that other than Rodman, the other 3 key players were all drafted; they didn't come over to chase rings.

    • @bradgaines
      @bradgaines 3 роки тому +1

      @@NickPR87 Great point!

    • @fidelsolis6070
      @fidelsolis6070 3 роки тому +5

      So true bulls of the 90s were the best ever. That's my team. I'm from Chicago. Bulls 4ever

    • @iuri9161
      @iuri9161 3 роки тому +5

      3th best player*

  • @r.r.8576
    @r.r.8576 3 роки тому +14

    Kukoc is a legend and all around great human being. Свака част!

  • @goxputica
    @goxputica 3 роки тому +5

    Amazing player, underrated. If he was in another tim, for shure he would be a lider and one of top scorers in NBA. Awesom sharp shooter. Player ahead of the time. Pink Panter 💜

  • @ag2smal
    @ag2smal 3 роки тому +7

    Basketball poet. Beauty of his game surpasses era of his existence. Ignoring importance of his name in changing the world and game is not just underrated, it's insulting for brain of everybody who knows this game.

  • @christopherevans9119
    @christopherevans9119 3 роки тому +37

    Got to give the Left handed sensation his respect! 👍✌🏻

  • @marianchicago4002
    @marianchicago4002 3 роки тому +47

    Video doesn’t mention that the bulls asked Toni when he came over to gain like 30 pounds, because they were thin on PF and he did it, lost a bit of quickness because of it, i don’t see any players in today’s game, or even back then willing to do that and sacrificing. Toni did the Giannis euro step first but the refs would call it travel and wouldn’t let him do it for first couple years, and after that, they still restricted it, so he couldn’t get too fancy and sometimes it depended on the ref. Toni was born 25-30 years too early, if he came over now, top 10, maybe top 5 player in the league with his skills set and how the game is called and played right now

    • @aspasiachronopoulou3529
      @aspasiachronopoulou3529 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, absolutely right!!! And there is a confession about this somewhere in UA-cam about how he was mistreated from Phil Jackson himself..because the time they called him to USA and started gaining pounds and muscles, MJ hadn’t yet announced his retirement so there was no room for Toni in the guards and small forward positions, and that’s why they wanted to turn him to power forward. That cost him the first years in his European style of playing, especially in flexibility..
      Tony was a team player and had the guts and humidity to come from the bench following MJ and Scottie, and be the game changer in lots of games including playoff games..
      Players with better basics in basketball than kukoc were only a few in that period in the NBA

    • @ceegun
      @ceegun 3 роки тому +5

      Before he gained weight in NBA he could dunk from free throw line...there is footage on UA-cam...he and Durant have same level of game, with only difference that Durant is a superstar

    • @dantedlane2
      @dantedlane2 3 роки тому

      Tone would be killing the game right now

    • @MrSrbistuta
      @MrSrbistuta 3 роки тому +3

      Yep, Toni was flying around back in his Jugoplastika days. He played what is now called a point forward. Super skilled with his handles, always a pass first mindset, can penetrate and shoot as well. But the game was different back then, with more dominant bigs, so I guess the team asked him to add some pouds and he was still effective!

    • @petr79
      @petr79 3 роки тому +1

      Petrovic, Danilovic , Radja, Divac, Vrankovic, Papalj and Kukoc all played in the nba

  • @daddyrare
    @daddyrare 3 роки тому +98

    The Waiter would be killing in the NBA right now

    • @dwigg7700
      @dwigg7700 3 роки тому +9

      25+ a game, easily.

    • @MistaWordz
      @MistaWordz 3 роки тому +1

      @@dwigg7700 Maybe not easily, but it's possible if he was the main scoring option.

    • @dwigg7700
      @dwigg7700 3 роки тому +13

      @@MistaWordz look at what Luka is doing and he isn’t as big or athletic as Toni was. Toni just happened to land on a team with the greatest scorer since wilt.

    • @MistaWordz
      @MistaWordz 3 роки тому +2

      @@dwigg7700 I know, but I don't think Toni was as smart as Luka is. He ain't uber athletic, but he practically plays chess to figure out his defender's moves so he can counter.

    • @dwigg7700
      @dwigg7700 3 роки тому

      @@MistaWordz can’t disagree with that.

  • @Dantana773
    @Dantana773 3 роки тому +35

    The Waiter was a Hell of a Hooper His skill set was off the chain and if he cam into the league on another Team he would have been the Man he took and hit clutch shots in the regular season and in the playoffs and Finals salute to the The waiter put him in this modern NBA he would one of the Top Players

  • @user-hx7dt6vb8f
    @user-hx7dt6vb8f 3 роки тому +9

    If he had played today, he'd be a superstar. My man is the 2nd option in bulls offense. 💯📈☝️🔥

  • @radioactivehands
    @radioactivehands 3 роки тому +19

    I m so disappointed the Last Dance didn‘t talk about Kukoc at all, he was so important to the 2nd 3peat Bulls.

    • @RoDiggityDangit79
      @RoDiggityDangit79 3 роки тому +4

      @Briscoe17555 you obviously didn't watch the games

    • @RoDiggityDangit79
      @RoDiggityDangit79 3 роки тому +1

      @Briscoe17555 now I know you definitely didn't watch the games.
      Kukoc won sixth man of the year in 96.
      Stop it.

    • @RoDiggityDangit79
      @RoDiggityDangit79 3 роки тому +1

      @Briscoe17555 Actually in 98 Kukoc did start a few games over Rodman to give the starting lineup more offense.
      You. Didn't. Watch. The. Games.

    • @chunjoglavi
      @chunjoglavi 3 роки тому

      @Briscoe17555 Ljubomorni srbine (namjerno s malim s), ne seri

    • @barbarapaparella1833
      @barbarapaparella1833 Рік тому +1

      @@RoDiggityDangit79 He was good. 11 4 and 3 in his NBA career. Below average defender but he was a good passer and hit some big shots. He was a Superstar before he entered the league in 93.

  • @vitezjura
    @vitezjura 3 роки тому +32

    Toni was very good, if he played for some other team that used him as first or second option he would probably have better numbers but no 3 championships. His only problem was he wasn't interested in being the number one option and carrying the team by himself, he was never an aggressive player. Another problem, he was often tasked to guard the powerforwards and he didn't have the aggressive mindset or the physique to take those defensive assignments so Phil would take him out of the game. In today's NBA where the game is less physical he would probably be a star and play more.

    • @tonchie23
      @tonchie23 3 роки тому +5

      Don't forget that after winning the 3 rings with the Bulls, the only title he was missing was Olympic gold, he only had silver. Besides that he had won all the possible titles in Europe and plenty awards in the NBA.

    • @kreuzschmerz36
      @kreuzschmerz36 3 роки тому +4

      That‘s what makes the case for him being in the hof...already an achieved/established superstar in eu and put a great nba career on top!
      Besides he was the prototype of a modern point forward and would easily fit in today’s game!

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho 3 роки тому +4

      You got it wrong about his mindset, the guy carried Jugoplastika to conquer 3 Euroleagues in a row... the problem wasn't him, it was that he wasn't a 2-way player like MJ and Pippen and coaches back then didn't like that.
      Petrovic had the same problem being a scorer. He had to move from Portland because of his lack of defensive attitude... but when he started to explode in the Nets he was one of the better offensive players in the league.
      Also, you have to consider that Kukoc was not a SF or a PF, he was forced to play like that in the NBA. In Europe he was a point guard, but Phil Jackson didn't have the guts to make him play like that, so he chose Ron Harper instead, who was a better overall player, but didn't have the IQ and fundamentals of Kukoc. I understand that it was a risk trying that with a 6'10 guy, but it was the ideal role for Kukoc.
      He was Doncic before Doncic, probably a better, purer PG, Jackson didn't try him as a PG probably because he'd be obliged to sacrifice Pippen offensive tasks to cover Kukoc weaknesses on the deffensive end

    • @antemercep8844
      @antemercep8844 3 роки тому +2

      @@JulioLeonFandinho I knew him personally and Dino Radja. Toni was probably one of the most talented basketball players ever but when he got in NBA and got paid he didn't cared that much anymore. He was pleased with role of sixth man and money that came with it. I always tried to imagine what kind of player he would be if he had bit of Petrovic mentality.
      People keep downgrading him as 4th best player on bulls and whatnot, but in all honesty he was better offensive player than Pippen and its hard to imagine bulls being that dominant without him and the question is would they win those titles.
      I bet reason why he is not in hof is because of narrative. Right now MJ won those titles with 2 more hof players, it sound better for his case than if it was 3 hof players. Don't get me wrong, MJ is G.O.A.T. regardless of that, but i think that's the reason why Toni is not in hall of fame.
      I agree with you with everything else except his mindset. Yea in Europe he was proving that he was best player but in NBA it was about money and doing his job.
      I can only imagine him in today's league, specially if he had that desire he played with in EU. He would be force in the league. Guy could score from anywhere on court, could post up, had insane IQ and vision, passing, handling and was clutch as you can be.
      I love Doncic, for sure one of the players I enjoy watching most, but I would pick prime Toni over him.

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho 3 роки тому +1

      @@antemercep8844 Radja is already in the HoF, why not Kukoc? do you understand that mistery?
      I mean, Radja is one of my favourite europeans ever, I was a Barça fan back in the 90s and it was painful losing 2 years in a row against Jugoplastika, and Radja was a nightmare... but come on, why isn't Kukoc a hall of famer, I just don't get it

  • @frozentspark2105
    @frozentspark2105 3 роки тому +2

    I grew up watching that era, love these videos man

  • @dariog36th
    @dariog36th 3 роки тому +46

    They left this out of the Last Dance but the Bulls won game 7 of the 1998 Eastern Conference finals was because of the huge 3rd quarter that Toni Kukoc had in that game. Without Kukoc the Bulls don’t win that game and Jordan doesn’t get his 6th championship.

    • @erics9487
      @erics9487 3 роки тому +2

      Possibly. But, we don't know that. It's speculation.

    • @Hazztech
      @Hazztech 3 роки тому +13

      jordan cannot say that kukoc was good because if he did, it would imply krause was right, and jordan's ego won't let that happen.

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 2 роки тому +2

      @@erics9487 Nope it's a fact.

    • @dariog36th
      @dariog36th Рік тому +1

      @@erics9487 it’s not speculation, that’s what happened. Indiana held MJ to his lowest point total of the series in game 7. Toni stepped up and the Bulls won.

    • @dariog36th
      @dariog36th Рік тому

      @@Hazztech I think the biggest reason MJ was upset at Krause was because MJ wanted Krause to go after Sam Perkins when he was a free agent. Instead Krause went to Europe and got Kukoc. So MJ saw that Kukoc was responsible for his college buddy not being signed by the Bulls.

  • @KrimsonKracker
    @KrimsonKracker 3 роки тому +31

    Toni was one of those "elite" role-players who could explode for 30 points any given game, forcing teams worry about him and not over-focus on Michael or Scottie... One of the very few "stretch 4s" during that period. Chicago doesn't win a few championships without him (especially 98) ZERO DOUBT.

    • @dwigg7700
      @dwigg7700 3 роки тому +2

      Absolutely right. Toni would burn you if you gave him any space and he definitely would catch fire from time to time. People forget how big he was too, 6’10” and as fast as he was, as smooth as he was. He was definitely a rarity at that time.

    • @iFanchi
      @iFanchi 3 роки тому +2

      I wouldn’t call him a role player, but yes he was elite and was the 3rd scoring option on the bulls.
      Role players would be more of a Kerr, Brown and Buechler. Tony only came from the bench because they would start Longley as center. And actually played more minutes than him pg.
      When the game is on the line you don’t have role players on the court and you know he always finished the game.

    • @KrimsonKracker
      @KrimsonKracker 3 роки тому +1

      @@iFanchi I'd like to agree with you, but I don't think Toni's defense was quite good enough to put him beyond the "elite role player" status. Hence why he wasn't a starter or all-star... Regardless, he was ENORMOUSLY important to those Bulls teams, giving them the legit 3rd scoring option they needed.

    • @iFanchi
      @iFanchi 3 роки тому

      @@KrimsonKracker he wasn’t a starter because he was in the Bulls with MJ.
      The year MJ was playing baseball, he was a starter. And he would be a starter on any other team. He was not an elite defender. But he was more than a role player. Playing 30 minutes a game is not being a role player.

    • @KrimsonKracker
      @KrimsonKracker 3 роки тому

      @@iFanchi I'd call ANYONE who never made an all-star team a role player. Toni was clearly among the best players of those players of course. Hence, why I consider him an "elite" role player. Just a semantic argument at this point.

  • @houbro9868
    @houbro9868 3 роки тому +1

    Kukoc was really the first stretch 4 ever in the NBA. Was really a pioneer .

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD 3 роки тому +5

    There was a game in the 72 win season where the Bulls were just blowing out the Hawks in Atlanta. And in the second half Phil rested Michael and somewhat Scottie and Toni just took over. Running the break, scoring, shooting, stealing just doing it all. The Bulls never looked more impressive or entertaining than in that game. A true pasting of Atlanta. Such a great game for Toni. Classy and clutch. I heard a while back Toni say he still likes to go golfing and gamble with Michael. Terrific player and a terrific guy.

  • @high-defRJ
    @high-defRJ 3 роки тому +3

    I am not trying to compare Kukoc to Ginobili, but they just played similar roles - weapon off the bench (sometimes start), win the Sixth Man of the Year as the only two foreign trained international players to win the award, and leave several clutch shot/play legacies. One may consider the Big Three of the Bulls dynasty to be Rodman-Pippen-Jordan, but it was sometimes Kukoc-Pippen-Jordan. He was the shooter/sixth-man that the Bulls needed in their second three-peat.

  • @jonbonesmahomes7472
    @jonbonesmahomes7472 3 роки тому +3

    Toni, Toni, odlican igrac.
    Zivjeli.

  • @felipehernandez8293
    @felipehernandez8293 3 роки тому +2

    Ya me suscribí a tu canal Bro, soy un basketball player de toda la vida, seguidor de los Gloriosos Celtics y fanático del mejor basket del mundo, saludos desde León, México y fan de Jugoplastika y del basket Azteca

  • @marksc1929
    @marksc1929 3 роки тому +1

    .. really liking these videos ...very , accurate , respectful and fair ...to whichever athlete ...👍

  • @Balraj.G.
    @Balraj.G. 3 роки тому +5

    Kukoc was a ‘Very’ important part of that 2nd 3peat!! ✊🏽✊🏽

  • @aspasiachronopoulou3529
    @aspasiachronopoulou3529 3 роки тому +2

    Lot of respect. Love your videos Shawn..tony was my favourite player in Europe before his nba career.. some things are not mentioned but again it’s a nice video for an underrated player. For instance the statement from Phil Jackson himself that they mistreated him and didn’t give him enough space. Also that when he first came from Europe (not knowing yet about MJ ‘s retirement) they made him gain pound and muscles to make him a power forward, something that cost him in flexibility..and many more incredible stories from games where he had some magical moments and appearances, lots of them in playoff games. Personal favourite moments from nba career: 1.the three pointer on shaq in a game that the opponents had closed on MJ and Scottie the whole game and Toni hold the bulls in the game till the end when MJ got started. 2. The “in your face” three pointer on pj brown and the Miami heat. 3. The 2 clutch moments referred in the video with the knicks and the pacers. 4. the finals against Seattle where he took over in one or two games.
    another underrated international nba player that you must make a video pls, is sarunas marculionis, whom MJ always wanted to avoid guarding (his words)

  • @matthewcdupre
    @matthewcdupre 7 місяців тому

    Definitely underrated and played a pretty significant role during 2nd Chicago 3-peat... Dude added so much to that team!

  • @peterbowie7347
    @peterbowie7347 3 роки тому +2

    Toni Kukoc is very unique player ... Yugoslav school !!!

  • @maxdobasquete
    @maxdobasquete 3 роки тому +1

    Another like my man Sean!

  • @edwardmiller79
    @edwardmiller79 3 роки тому

    Still brings tears to my eyes watching the old bulls...👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @randyeisensmith1483
    @randyeisensmith1483 3 роки тому +2

    Toni Kukoc definitely should be in the US Basketball Hall of Fame. Other people below have mentioned Vlade Divac and Dino Raja, but Drazan Petrovic and Arvydas Sabonis also are members, largely for their non-NBA contributions. As great as Sabonis was, Toni's achievement in both Europe and the U.S. compare favorably. And Dino Raja isn't even a member of FIBA's Hall of Fame. Toni's international contributions alone outshine those of Raja's, as do his contributions to the Bulls, especially during the absence of Jordan and the second 3-peat.
    For some real fun, check out the late December 1996 Bulls-Lakers game where Jordan, Pippin and Kukoc EACH went off for 30 points in a huge come from behind win. Toni was 🔥 in the second half, looking like Steph Curry before Steph Curry!

  • @jaksabikic3764
    @jaksabikic3764 3 роки тому

    Man you have the best NBA videos on youtube

  • @amyholdren
    @amyholdren 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video, excellent all time great player.

    • @fidelsolis6070
      @fidelsolis6070 3 роки тому

      He sure was. I had his jersey. I still have it. As a kid I admire him in the mid 90s I use to do 3 of his of his moves.

  • @toniurumov5523
    @toniurumov5523 3 роки тому +7

    I was named after him ☺️

  • @rickbeltran7365
    @rickbeltran7365 3 роки тому +1

    Always will love me some Toni Kukoc.. boy was good.

  • @antunsudarevic9964
    @antunsudarevic9964 2 роки тому

    Kukoč is one of the Best players in NBA from Europe, we are so proud that he is from Balkan from Croatia🇭🇷😀

  • @direktor25
    @direktor25 3 роки тому +1

    Was lucky enough to watch him from start. Croatia, land of 4 mil. ppl we had Dražen Petrović, Toni Kukoć, Dino Rađa . . . etc and for most Dražen is no. 1 because he was pure shooter and work maniac but for me Toni was one. Could play any positiom,,had 11/11 3pt. in one game but he would always rather assist then score. Cold as ice when game is on the line

  • @orahovavucichitlerdacicgoe7223
    @orahovavucichitlerdacicgoe7223 3 роки тому +3

    Don't forget first season Tony had to play even against his teammates,because Michael and Pipen didn't like him at all at the beginning,after he grow on them and they started more and more to appreciate him..

  • @skwarlock9245
    @skwarlock9245 3 роки тому +7

    On Today's game Tony will be a superstar!

    • @pmaigotthat7211
      @pmaigotthat7211 3 роки тому +1

      Petrovic would be even better. Hes be top 5 In the NBA

  •  3 роки тому +6

    Tony's achievements in Europe are great too.

  • @Icarus811
    @Icarus811 3 роки тому +1

    Dude your Kemp and Payton jerseys are epic. Man I miss my sonics. Come back to us sonics we miss you.

  • @vesthepes
    @vesthepes 3 роки тому +3

    Top player from my childhood. Toni is the real deal!

  • @TheConstructiveCritic888
    @TheConstructiveCritic888 2 роки тому

    I agree with you! In your edit, you cut off the buzzer shot before the 8 minute mark where he won it for the Bulls against the Pacers. It just cuts to the Olympic interviews.

  • @robertmastnak581
    @robertmastnak581 3 роки тому +3

    Toni one of the most influential player from Europe...

  • @BarryJowers
    @BarryJowers 3 роки тому +1

    Toni Kukoc should be in the Hall Of Fame

  • @PhoenixAscending
    @PhoenixAscending 2 роки тому

    I love the over the top explosion in the introduction. Makes me think of fight milk

  • @martinmackye9865
    @martinmackye9865 3 роки тому +4

    I would call him the first skilled big man in the NBA.....I had never seen anyone quite like him..... And now the NBA seems to be full of them...
    A DEFINITE TRAILBLAZER AND A DEFINITE HALL OF FAMER.

    • @mariopavicin3193
      @mariopavicin3193 3 роки тому

      He was listed 6'11", only guy with similar skill set today is KD. The others are DeAndre Jordan,Mason Plumlee,Sabonis, Turner,Olynik,Giannis,KAT,Steven Adams,Vucevic,Ayton. The guy played guard in Europe, not second on PF position till NBA.

    • @martinmackye9865
      @martinmackye9865 3 роки тому

      @@mariopavicin3193 you're missing my point.... He is responsible -almost solely- for bringing that particular archetype to the nba........ We had never seen it before. We didn't even know it was possible. Now the league is filled with them....

    • @mariopavicin3193
      @mariopavicin3193 3 роки тому

      @@martinmackye9865 not missing a point imo, i just listed the 6'11" players in NBA and only one that can match him is KD. Your statement was: league is full of them, I can't agreed with that. He was unique like KD is today. But I can see what you are talking and you are right on that. Ideal PF of the time was Malone, Oakley,Kemp...

  • @phoolvio
    @phoolvio 2 роки тому

    Saw him in Italy, when playing in Treviso. Far ahead for those times, a period when Jugoslavia was a forge of talents.
    Still remember his one hand slam dunk.

  • @TheKingOfRuckus
    @TheKingOfRuckus 3 роки тому +3

    7:39
    You cut away at the best part! Toni hits the game winner and Scottie bows, lol

  • @Brochnick
    @Brochnick 8 місяців тому

    I've never heard a story about Kukoc talking sh*t; he just seemed to have fun & let his game do the talking. I really respect that.

  • @MasterSpade
    @MasterSpade 3 роки тому +6

    5:37 Charles Barkley speaking the TRUTH!!!!!!! Put those players in a league WITH NO HAND CHECKING!!????

  • @Tommy_Gibbs_II
    @Tommy_Gibbs_II 3 роки тому +2

    Kukoc would be a top 15 player today. The entire style of todays NBA is what we called Euro ball back in the 90s

  • @jusmartin7357
    @jusmartin7357 11 місяців тому

    As a high schooler I modelled my game after kukoc. In 6 foot 6 so learning to do things like shoot from anywhere and drive to the basket made me more than what people who were guarding were used to at my position. Thank you Toni

  • @heydensto
    @heydensto 2 роки тому +1

    I grew up watching this amazing player and when he was in Europe he was in my opinion one of the most talented players with petrovic, galis and sabonis from Europe, everybody was talking about him, he was very underrated in bulls and back in that era European players didn't have the chance to show their skills, not many European players could get to the NBA at that time

  • @lukagrloci78
    @lukagrloci78 3 роки тому +8

    Classic Steve Kerr story!!

  • @asterixx6878
    @asterixx6878 2 роки тому +1

    It has been written at least 1000000 times, that Kukoc is undererrated. That in itself shows that he is not underrated.

  • @Yambo36
    @Yambo36 3 роки тому +2

    The repeat of Charles listing the bulls players had me dying around 5:50 loll

  • @SimbaLabrador
    @SimbaLabrador 3 роки тому +2

    "Pink Panther" was his first nickname back here in Croatia or "Waiter" when he started to play abroad...he was really good clutch player!

  • @apexphotostories3507
    @apexphotostories3507 Рік тому +1

    If Toni played in this positionless era right now teams would be really really scared of this man

  • @omez23
    @omez23 3 роки тому +6

    Toni Kukoc could dunk from the free throw line with ease.

    • @aspasiachronopoulou3529
      @aspasiachronopoulou3529 3 роки тому +1

      True..there is a video from his yugoplastika (his team in Croatia with which he gained the 3peat in European champion) years where he does that (but in European basketball court with different dimension from nba I think)

    • @rahowherox1177
      @rahowherox1177 3 роки тому +1

      @@aspasiachronopoulou3529 yes, but the free throw line is same distance from hoop.

  • @iiwill
    @iiwill 3 роки тому +2

    Zack Lowe podcast with Steve Kerr about The Last Dance was great. He talked most of the time about Toni Kukoc over there.

  • @Cop--
    @Cop-- 3 роки тому +6

    They only talk about the first game croatia vs dream team...the final, he shot the lights out...funny how media can draw a story which doesn’t reflect the full truth

  • @tomislavgeorgiev5341
    @tomislavgeorgiev5341 3 роки тому +2

    Fact that he is not in hof is a disgrace.

  • @darrylhayes3662
    @darrylhayes3662 3 роки тому +1

    He was a fantastic player for what it’s worth I totally 4got that Elise Neal was in on many of the Iceman’s commercials back in the day....just notice
    Tony was phenomenal 👍🏽

  • @aleksandarfrick2656
    @aleksandarfrick2656 3 роки тому

    He was god in Yugoslavia - World FIBA champion 1990 and Euro champion 89' and 91' .
    With YUGOPLASTIC he won three FIBA Euro championships .
    When MJ saw his skills he said to Pippen - " He plays lika brother ".

  • @jakeholden5438
    @jakeholden5438 3 роки тому +1

    He should be in the hall of fame

  • @ernestobraganza4805
    @ernestobraganza4805 3 роки тому +2

    The greatest international basketball player of all time

    • @unwokeneuropean3590
      @unwokeneuropean3590 3 роки тому

      Him and Dražen Petrović were at 50-50. But Luka Dončić will be first slavic ultimate legend.

  • @Abigail84033
    @Abigail84033 3 роки тому +1

    Could you please do a video on Big Shot Bob??? Back in the day, that guy continually broke my heart.

  • @samkab677
    @samkab677 3 роки тому +2

    Kukoc for hall of fame

  • @chrisrains6464
    @chrisrains6464 3 роки тому +1

    Kukoc saved my Bulls in the 98 ECF against Indiana in game 7!

  • @mauricecoleman3897
    @mauricecoleman3897 3 роки тому +4

    I wish 2k would put some respect on his name

  • @ihercr5333
    @ihercr5333 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, but just to add few things...1. Yes, he playied awful in first Olympic game against US but imagine how it was simply to see your idols for the first time. Pretty much everyone was scared in that game except Dino Rađa and of course Dražen Petrović. But in finals against US he had 16p, 9a and 5r and got standing ovations from crowd. Of course that was not mentioned in documentary same as they cutted what Stockton said about Petrović...that every player from every team was afraid of them and surrendered before game except Dražen Petrović. 2. Toni played against many NBA players that became All Stars of super stars on Junior World Championship and was destroying most of them. Still holds a record with 10 threes shooting 10/11 from three and was guarded by Payton if I'am not mistaken. 3. Before he came to NBA he also playied against Bucks and Knicks on Mcdonald's tour for Jugoplastika, or Pop 84(same team) and they almost beat them playing with only young guys from his country. He was not afraid and playied amazing and US comentators was so amazed that they called him White Magic at that time cause he did it all...points, assist, rebounds. 4. Bulls add a looot of weight on his body which slowed him down, but simply at that point European players was not respected and only few of them playied in NBA. And he got in the best team in the league so that wasn't easy. Jordan was actually out playing baseball and in his second season Kukoc was avereging 18p, 6r and 5a...and that's no joke especially back than as european player and in 90's. His numbers droped when Jordan came back last 22 games and he finished season with 15.7p, 5.4r, 4.6a which is also great and show 2 things...imagine if MJ didn't come back...his stats in only second season would be amazing and would probably rise next season and next season ect. It also showes that yeah...Jordan was Alpha and the man and objectivly...Kukoć was to intiminated by him which is his own fault. Don't get me wrong...i can't imagine biggest MJ fan than my self so i'am so lucky he came back :) But playing with GOAT and Pippen...you simply have to except being third option. But i saw a lot of games and he sometimes simply didn't push it all the way and the way he actually could like he showed he is able in that second season before Jordan came back so I'am sure we never saw his real potential or game which he would maybe show on weaker team. But that part was also on Toni. He was still amazing player and super talented and coulf defenitely do pretty much everything in offence and yeah...he was clutch. I loved watching him and those Bulls. Just wanted to add some info and stats that wasn't mentioned in video but tnx for it and props for another great video

  • @nenadcelik8549
    @nenadcelik8549 3 роки тому

    The final mach between Los Angeles and Chicago was epic.A remember where I was that time.Toni was the man across ex Yugoslavia.Balkan school 100%

  • @33bigmoney
    @33bigmoney 3 роки тому +5

    he might be the most talented of the bulls squad, like Phil Jackson said that he only scratched the surface of Toni's talent. Super IQ and skills, his mentality wasnt that of Jordan or Petrovic not os aggressive, that's the difference. And of course back then you didn't have all the support euros get now, like Luka. Im not saying he is better than luka, but very similar if kukoc played today

    • @dwigg7700
      @dwigg7700 3 роки тому +1

      He would be a super duper star today. His speed and size with his skill set but now you can’t touch him, he would be putting up HUGE numbers. 25+ easily.

    • @33bigmoney
      @33bigmoney 3 роки тому

      @@dwigg7700 Durant wore his jersey a few times. I think he said they have some similar skills with size

    • @financialliberty2381
      @financialliberty2381 3 роки тому

      @@33bigmoney i'm not surprised, KD knows his basketball, a big savant of this game

  • @alainverse6126
    @alainverse6126 3 роки тому +1

    Underrated

  • @Gmacshow
    @Gmacshow 3 роки тому

    I like toni very much he was really and a big part of what the bulls and I think he would be even better in today's nba as well

  • @thegentlemen9389
    @thegentlemen9389 2 роки тому

    I remember being younger back in Chicago going to the last three titles wearing a Kukoc jersey to the parades

  • @zorankalina6100
    @zorankalina6100 3 роки тому +1

    Toni...ah..realy fits that short name
    Toni the panther😉👍😊🏅🙌
    Maybe Am wrong...but when you mentione Toni and NBA
    Probably we all know ..the guy we are talking about
    😁

  • @williamanderson1091
    @williamanderson1091 3 роки тому +1

    Tony was apart of a great team . He and Ron Hopper both deserve to be in the HOF

  • @T3l3MuNd0
    @T3l3MuNd0 3 роки тому +4

    Kukoc was NAAAASSSTY. Tall, athletic, left handed, can shoot. Only downside was defence...

    • @ceegun
      @ceegun 3 роки тому +1

      Just like modern NBA superstars 😁

    • @T3l3MuNd0
      @T3l3MuNd0 3 роки тому +1

      @@ceegun modern nba superstars take the all star game too seriously.

    • @darijobubica3919
      @darijobubica3919 3 роки тому

      As most players are weak on defense.... Jackson said he never scratched the surface of how he could use Toni on the court..That's huge...But Tony in my opinion never showed his true NBA talent...Never worked super hard he knew what he had in the players around him.... So he knew he didn't need to work so hard...If he had the eye of the tiger he would have given Jordan and Pippin the fits as who was the best
      ... Instead he layer down became a roll player that was hard to stop...Oh well...Hard to find that kind of ballplayer then and now....

    • @ceegun
      @ceegun 3 роки тому

      It is impossible to be dominant near Jordan, Toni knew his role in the game, people forgot also that basketball is 5 vs 5 game where coach has the first and the last word...Bulls were dominant in big men era without big men in a team,all centers were wack, so they needed all help they can get...Rodman is like only 201cm tall and Kuki is 208(210), so they wanted use Toni as a power forward so he didn't play his natural positions (1,2,3), Toni would be better for example in team with dominant big men..in Orlando with Shaq, or in Spurs with Robinson...

  • @1516Taylor
    @1516Taylor 3 роки тому +2

    This was great basketball!

  • @laviebanale
    @laviebanale 2 роки тому

    Poor Toni Kukoč. He came too early. Had he been born later and came to the NBA now, he’d be an All Star. He’s perfect for the modern NBA.

  • @Courageous39
    @Courageous39 2 роки тому

    The thing with Kukoc is not just in his NBA career. He had tree Euroleague titles and won everything with Yugoslav national team. That was BEFORE NBA