5 years off and 99.9% back to normal, kratom gave me a massive setback right back into severe akathisia and then back onto a benzo. The akathisia did go away but now I'm stuck tapering a benzo again. This is what I call an extreme setback.
I’m 41 months off Klonopin after 23 years on. I had a setback 8 months ago from an infection that led to an allergic reaction to amoxicillin and then a traumatic tooth extraction bc I couldn’t take anything to help. It was like I started all over with withdrawal. 8 months from this and I am now dealing with chronic dizziness, weakness, ringing in my ear, and extreme light sensitivity. I’m starting homecare again and my life is at a standstill. I will get back to helping this cause when I’m able, but this sucks!
Jordan Peterson had to go to Eastern Europe to get off scripts since the Western Doctors kept trying to add more drugs. Him and his daughter are on strict diets now. Our food and lifestyle are killing us. Anyone else notice the similarities between vaxx injuries, food sensitivities and withdrawals? With so many on scripts, it looks like a clean diet is the way to go.
This was a Godsend this morning. I'm at the end of a 19 month taper off Ativan. (40 year dependence) and I'm really going through it. The sensory for me is off the charts right now. I feel like an old pro at this now (coping with the WD symptoms 24/7) at almost 2 years. Your videos are very helpful and comforting, Thank you.
@ravenfeather1467I have been on it for 9 months, taken at bedtime only , it stopped working and developed withdrawals already, but don't want to increase due to side effects, it shouldn't even been prescribed for me . Could you share your taper method, do you have withdrawals, how many doses a day , l don't know how to handle this situation, l m loosing weight, look like anorexic 😢.
@@ellaMel4632 Hi there. I'm happy that you're stopping these now before you are on them for decades. As far as my taper method, I just went by what my psychiatrist told me to do. Was on 3 mg a day. I did a cut of 1/2 milligram every 2-4 months. I am now down to 1/4 of an .05 milligram or less and almost done. I suggest doing a slow taper. Have had W/D all through my taper. There are some websites for support. Benzo buddies, etc. that you may want to check out. Good luck to you.
Thank you Angie. And thank you for validating that sometimes when we are sick or life traumas or stress happens, it is out of our control. You are an angel ❤
Dude, I was so freaked out in withdrawal the first six months after cold turkey I went to the dentist and had all of my metal fillings removed. I think I had eight or nine of them and then I had four root canals done. I did the carpet like everybody suggested but that shit made my face swell up and it really bad and then I would have anxiety for a few days so I just got to where I didn’t take anything I did do OK one time when he mix the norepinephrine or whatever it is, it was all the same except I didn’t have as bad anxiety whenever I didn’t have any general anesthesia to numb anything. I had to go back to the dentist like eight times last year and the year before he probably more than that it was a lot of times. Yep definitely don’t rush, antibiotics for UTI is there is natural ship for that. I didn’t take any of the antibiotics that my dentist wanted me to take for my teeth, my own stuff that does the same purpose I agree you definitely got to be your own doctor and have your own little apothecary. My setbacks have been Covid. Dealing with someone that is fucking evil and car crash or I got a concussion. I should’ve died from that in November but hey, I’m still alive I guess and a few supplements definitely amino acids. Thanks for the video Angie it’s always beautiful to see your beautiful, shiny face with smiles.
set backs are a topic that are not spoken about enough especially in the benzo community i have a friend who tapered for 3 years then took 2.5 years to full heal....... he was 100 percent healed for about 1 years or so...... he went to help someone he became close to and on his way there that person commuted suicide...... it caused him to start having panic attacks again and boom he was thrown right back into the depths of hell of benzo withdrawal aka paws hes been there for 5 and a half years now with no sight in end 😔😔
Being in a setback for 5 1/2 years sounds terrible but usually something else is going on at that point- are they back on meds? I’ve never heard of anyone being in “acute” level when 8 years off everything.
Thank you for talking about the stress of your dog’s death. Mine just died a month ago and I am devastated. Ihaven’t had many symptoms during my withdrawal so far but I am experiencing some now. I didn’t think the loss of my precious one could bring on symptoms. I am sorry for your loss as well
Good video angie. Thanks for the info. I didnt know about the anti nausea medication and also the ppis are bad. I didnt find that out until 3 and a half years off. Thanks to you
Hey Angie, you mention you usually get the more severe cases and mention ppl on stuff for yrs and polydrugged etc... i was on clonazepam only 3 weeks and am now 29 months out and still recovering, i had a severe acute that lasted about 4 months and a real heallish first 6 months and really wavy first 1,5 year still get real rough days and nights and with symptoms but bigger stretches of being well, but still so wavt. I got tolerance withdrawal on day THREE, except i didnt know then... cold turkeyd after 19,5 days, i was very sick... the classic severe withdrawal story with over 35 symptoms... and completely off the world, i never took any other "meds" just that sensitive... just wanted to share short termers can have real severe reactions too, i dont even know how people can take K for years, i neary died after 19,5 days of 0,5 mg...
I was on Ativan for 10 months and stopped Ct. the first month was pure hell. Before my cycle I go back to like withdrawals insomnia brain zaps internal tremors lost of appetite can’t eat in bed for days cry all the time. Just horrific. How are you now? I’m 3 months out from Ct.
Thank you Angie. You clarified setbacks really well andin way that I had not thought of before. Medical practitioners really freak me out. Thank you for explaining that it's sometimes necessary to seek their services. Hope your shoulder heals soon for you.😊 Thank you for the difference you are making in the lives of so many. 😊🙏🥰
Thank you for sharing about loosing your dog and the symptoms that incresed. We just lost our very very loved dog very fast and traumatic way for me and I have now new symptoms I never had before during my tapering. It's good to hear similar experiences. It's beennow really hard, but crying the loss helps also.
Hi Angie, thank you for your guidance and reassurance in this video. I am on antibiotics right now after delaying going to the GP which I was dreading to take as I am 10 months off sleep meds and no one understands just how sensitive our CNS has become. I've had to stop some other medication as I was finding them to flare my withdrawal symptoms. I've been dealing with scary neuro protracted withdrawal symptoms and now I am just coping 1 pill at a time and looking at your videos to feel better. There's been ups and downs but I try to distract myself as best as I can to get to that last pill. Sometimes we can't avoid meds to treat infections as things could get much worse. Your wisdom gives us the support we need when we are terrified of the unknown.👋☺️ From London.
In the beginning coffee would send me into a severe manic state. But now 7 years in protracted withdrawal I can drink coffee with no problem. I guess one mans blessing, can be another mans curse as far as suppliments goes. Have a great day angie and keep doing what you do. All the best.
I also healed from severe withdrawal. I can barely stay in the groups because I am so TIRED of people who are still sick, arguing with me about taking supplements and vitamins. vitamins, and supplements will NOT even take the edge off if you have serious withdrawal and if it IS taking the edge off it means that it is doing something that you dont want it to. it is NOT worth taking supplements and vitamins unless you have a severe and tested deficiency and even then your nervous system is not going to give you a break if you take that vitamin to fix the deficiency. if that vitamin his the nervous system wrong it will cause a set back full stop. It is a arm reduction approach to NOT take vitamins and supplements unless you have some serious condition that requires it. But i have no patience for people who take multivitamins to "find a cure", because I have just been dealing with these conversations for so many years now. Great video, I wish people would listen.
I cant understand how i am supposed to keep tapering when i am so ill. I can barely care for myself. I now have histamine intolerance or worse, mcas, can hardly eat anything without having neurogical symptoms and sleep is impossible without taking phenergan, and some nights that doesnt even work. My anxiety is like 100 x what it ever was and functioning is not possible. I dont even want to see anyone, even those closest to me. My husband keeps me alive. This taper is beyond cruel. I am at 6 mg diaz I see myself needing full time care to get off. Horrendous experience that i was in no way prepared for.
Angie you are a badass!!!!! I love everything about you!!! I am tapering 200mg of gabapentiin, then i have ambien and 3 mgs of klonopin to taper. I'm coming off gabap first because i was only on it for a few months. I'm doing liquid taper. My question is do i taper off ambien next or do i taper off 1mg of klonopin and use the ambien to sleep while i water taper off the klonopin? Should i just taper off ambien then wait a month then start the 3mg K taper I guess i am wondering if the ambien will interfere with my braining healing as i slowly taper the K over 3 years of water taper.....I just wanted your opinion. I do have severe insomnia. I just watched the medicating normal documentary and what you went through and the others went through is just mind-boggling! You did a great thing doing the documentary! You are kicking ass as a coach and I know you will help so many people! *HUGS*
Thank you for sharing this. I'm 5 months postpartum currently dealing with a setback. Doc wants me to take ssri but i refuse. 16 months off CT from klonopin. Again... Thank you for sharing
Excellent video again. Full of sensible, experienced insight. 17 months off antidepressants after over 31 years,and always feel less lonely and that there's someone out there that gets it even though I'm in protracted withdrawal from antidepressants rather than Benzodiazapines. Thanks.
@@mitch5222 It's a combination of extreme emotional and physical symptoms that fluctuates and alters. Emotional things like stressed, anxious,rage,anger,crying, memory loss,brain fog etc and then physically tired, muscle and joints ache,tense,cramp all over the body, headaches physical symptoms of anxiety & stress,loss of taste,smell,hearing,sinus problems,severe Tinnitus. Just a complete wreck like you've done an extreme weight training session, then got the flu, then heard your dog has been run over by a car and your wife has left you for another man. A doctor would say you need antidepressants. I say I wished I'd told them to shove em where the sun don't shine.
@@mitch5222 over the 31 years I took 8 different ones in total. That ranges from Venlafaxine which I took for 1 week, Escitalopram and Amiltryptyline which I took for 3 months each,then Sertraline, Paroxetine,Prozac, Citalopram and Fluvoxamine which I took for years, frequently trying to stop and then reinstating. That's without all the supplements I took with them. All because I couldn't get off them from dependency and that convinced me I had a chemical imbalance. Scandalous.
Thankfully, my Doctor is working with me. The plan is I will get down from .75 mg to .5 mg and I will try diazepam for three weeks and if my body accepts it I will go to compound pharmacy. Thank you very much for sharing your wisdom. I am one of those people who would probably look for something to calm me. I stopped drinking alcohol three 1/2 months ago.
I hope your shoulder heals. My setbacks have been a major hip surgery. I would have waited knowing what I know now. I.have a not so understanding boyfriend but he has let me be most of the time. I have a young child he's 4 now. Inhave tonget him fed and at daycare while im experiencing brain fog, depression, head heaviness, crying, brain feels impaired, i have felt more stressed when i over did it or got over stimulated from family visits or holidays. Or working out. I need another hip surgery on the right hip eventually and I try not to think about it. Im 7 months off concerta adult ritalin basically. Im getting some windows in the Am and sleeping well. I have tried kava and ashwaganda and stopped because mostly the fear of getting hooked on those. Im praying this comment can help someone someday.
Looking Good, Angie! When people ask me my name, I give it to them, and always say "That's the person I used to be." That is the best way I can describe this Horror. Angie, can you talk about Caffeine, and how other patients respond to it? Think of you, often, Angie. Hope you are well. Thank you.
Hey Angie, What a wonderful person you are! I think that when I watch you, every time!. You don't just "phone it in!" Angie, how do you deal with the fact that you, and all of us, have lost so many years of our very precious lives to this Horror? Particularly since "They" knew we never would have taken "their" drugs if we knew what would happen to us? That is a certainty. Without doubt. That is what I will Never recover from. THEIR DECEPTION. THIS IS, OF COURSE, WHY THEY NEVER PROVIDED INFORMED CONSENT! I will never recover from that. The suffering physically and mentally from the brain damage is one thing, but is survivable! It's the DECEPTION, subterfuge and trickery that I will never recover from! The Suffering they have caused so many millions of unknowing, vulnerable, patients! This always amazes me that people don't discuss this issue. For me, this is my biggest trauma, by far. It would be entirely different IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO US!
Have you ever thought about channeling your anger into advocacy ? It might help with feelings of helplessness and anger towards the injustices and wrongdoings. Every little bit makes a difference and can change the world.
The doctors do not know of these effects or if they do, it is only in the rare instance that they see a patient for more than 1 or 2 visits. All you are being treated with are various protocols according to some notion of how things are “supposed” to be done. There are very few docs out there who know how to really diagnose and treat what is really wrong
@@Geoplanetjane I'm pretty sure alot of phyciatrist know what benzos do . They just cover it up because they get big kickbacks from them. There not even fit to be called doctors. Anybody can write a prescription. That's all phyciatrist are is prescription writers. Drug dealers. They don't even know what the drugs they sell really do to people. But in alot of cases they do. I'm not even a phyciatrist an I know what benzos do. How could they not? Expesially by now . They've been out for a long time.
I've noted flare ups when I get sick or when on my period. Flare ups to the point where i have to take time off work because i can't stop pacing. But then it stops quickly. especially as more time goes by since I jumped, the symptom flare ups aren't as severe, but what it more noticeable for me is the symptoms rapid cycle. opposed to staying for for a couple weeks and then slowly going away.
Somatic Experiencing can take the built up emotional trauma from the body which helps in all aspects of healing. Create a document in case of hospitalization that sets limits on what they can do. Our medical services are incentivized to prescribe/provide certain drugs/protocols.
This is great Ang. I'm 4.5 months off now and past few days, wake feeling like I'm being hunted !! It's not anxiety, I feel scared, almost like a child????
Hey I had the same experience. I thought the crows were going to eat me. It seemed very real at the time but it's just the fear. Have a look at Anges post on fear. It's ok it will pass. It's the mind going through readjustment.
@@Mrnomadnworb so weird? I've been healing well, I'm sleeping really well now but the past few weeks sx have been so bad !!! I'm hoping this is the storm before the calm !! Lots of healing in this wave I'm hoping !! Past few days, strange creepy blunted emotions for the first time since my CT detox !!
It's a long old road to recovery. I found swimming really good. Mostly at the beach. Eating healthy, Listening to nice music that didn't freak me out too much and finding places like this helped a lot when things got really intense. Time is a major factor and keeping yourself safe so you make it out through the otherside because there is hope 100% Peace n Love @@lisasmith814
I agree that it’s the same injury. I have symptoms similar to wd but my issues started with floxing and then they were exacerbated by wd but I was healing. Not perfect but I saw a lot of improvement, some issues healed. However, I got waaaay worse after I had a reaction to a hormonal med, got pregnant, then had to take an antibiotic, then I had more meds in my c-section. It all made me so sick. New symptoms, electricity gone haywire. It’s almost been 10 months since the c-section and I am in the worst spot I have been constantly getting worse. I wonder if it will ever level out and start improving… 😢
Hi Angie. I’m curious if you know how Hormone replacement interacts with drug withdrawal. I’m trying to taper an antipsychotic while I’m being treated for a thyroid disorder and menopause. So I’m on thyroid hormone and estrogen and progesterone.. I’m not sure I can stop either one without serious health consequences. Any thoughts?
I never knew how hard it was gonna be coming off these psych meds. Holy shiiiiiiit. Cannot believe this happens to people. I was ripped off mine. Sup hell. Sucks here huh.
Sugar makes my head ringing so much loader, I took phenegran and oh my gosh woke up and terrified feelings. Kneck pain from a car accident and hydrocodone helps.
And theres a HUGE difference between smoking street Marijuana and taking MJ oil prescribed. It saves me at the moment (I'm in Australia and prescribed)
Hi, so useful video. I am 7 months off benzos now, very less short windows for me, that too not clear. I am very sensitive to stress, smells and other things. Can fatty capric alcohol ( from coconut oil) in my hair shampoo exaggerate the symptoms? I felt increased brain fog, confusion after using it. Can this shampoo be the cause?
Question! Those rare setbacks you talked about at the end where people are thrown back into acute, how is the trajectory of those from there? Is the recovery from scratch then again or is it faster?
Is propranolol bad for you? It was prescribed when I got akathisia. Would I have to taper off if I wanted to stop taking it. I only recently got diagnosed. Did you have akathisia and how long did you have it before you recovered? I got it from Risperdal when she figured out I had akathisia she put me on lamotrigine. I am tapering off that now.
@AngiePeacockMSW Thanks. .ya the polyp has fully blocked my nostril Breathing normal is impossible I tried to put off till fall but can't I thaught I would be over this but even through I am much better sadly not 100%
After 3 years on ativan 1mg ,I stopped taking it in December ,here in March I get a feeling of anxiety , my throat is so tight feeling . is this withdrawal ? I figured it would be out of my system by now ?
I was 3 SSRI drugs for 7 years. I went off all of them at the same time 5 months ago. I found a supplement that helped me function through my normal life. Sometimes I tried a different supplement but always went back to the same one. Ive been taking this supplement consistently now for about 3 months. Would it be ok to keep taking the one supplement but then just not take anything else.
I’m having cataract surgery and will be given 10 mg. of Valium. I’ve been off Valium for 18 months and I’m worried about a set back. Is there another sedation medication that I should use?
I’m 5 days out from a set back, I was about 85% healed and back to living life. I took macrobid for 4 days (8 pills) and was completely fine until i introduced an omega 3 supplement for the first time and crap hit the fan. I want to think it was the fish oil as I was doing fine on the antibiotics. Is it possible this could be short lived and not take years out? I’m freaking out and desperate for reassurance. I’ve read fish oil can be activating for some. Will I still heal from this? I’m sobbing all day long because I’m so scared I have to start over from the beginning. I’m praying it takes a few weeks to calm down but the uncertainty is killing me. I would also like to say, I had a uti and the culture came back for E. coli so I feel like this was maybe necessary. I regret taking it though
Psychiatry has been tasked by our culture to provide a cadre of ritual specialists to serve as deviance enforcers via a degradation ritual in the name of medicalizing and labeling the occurrence and expression of human emotional suffering, which society dictates must fall between proscribed limits of acceptability.
Angie, what about people who already had severe mental illnesses prior to medication use that make their withdrawal experience much worse but want to try new treatments in hope of relief, would that be too dangerous? I don’t think i can handle both for a long time…
I don't think it's either / or. It can be both / and. Harm Reduction might be a better option WHILE seeking other treatment options that are less harmful. SLOW taper to a lower dose while building a new understanding of your distress and what brought you to meds in the first place. Consider this: willhall.net/comingoffmeds/ P.S. There are lots of people with SMI diagnoses that come off or come lower and are living wonderful lives! (I am one of them)
Ive been on Seroquel anti psychotic for 8 years and had 7 relaps trying to get off this shit...also had 55 shocks to the brain...every time i get to a low dose i end up in another reality
Yes same here for me. I typically just drink through the anxiety it gives me sometimes though. Caffeine anxiety is nothing like withdrawal anxiety to me so I just try to ignore it and keep drinking. I am a bad example!
I’m 8 years off after being on 40 different psych drugs in a 13 year period. Went through benzo withdrawal several times during those years and put on all kinds of things. So! That meant I was severely kindled and was cold turkey AGAIN off the last drug I took. So… it took me 6 1/2 years to feel even slightly normal again. I went through HELL but am better now than I’ve ever been in my whole life. It was worth fighting for. I am also a more severe case so please stay in your own experience and try not to compare to me.
When I take vitamin D specialy or megnesium i feel crapy in like an hour or two then start feeling better but I cant take it on daily basis like regime but I feel like vitamin D helps alot in the long run. Can you suggest that I can get dependant on vitamin D and has to take it for the rest of my life just so that I can take the age of my symptoms. P.s I am 4 years off curently on 5th year and I feel like some of my symptoms has gotten better but i have developed other very bad ones. I dont understand angie. Thansk for the video thou❤
I’m not sure what you mean about being dependent on Vitamin D. When you feel better and heal more it’s possible your D levels will improve once you’re able to be outside in the sun more consistently. I couldn’t really take things consistently at that time off either.
You mentioned botox should be avoided. I get botox every 3 months for migraines and it helps. I'm in the process of tapering. Now I'm afraid to continue the botox as I continue my taper. What do you advise Angie?
That’s your own personal choice. Read the pamphlet for Botox and talk with your doctors and pharmacists about it. I don’t give medical advice. Some react to it some don’t. Some have to take things while others avoid things. It’s a personal decision you should make after knowing about the drug you need and speaking with people who are knowledgeable in that particular treatment.
@@AngiePeacockMSW Always good to see and hear you Angie.So gifted, strong and loving. I am tapering oh so slowly. Pretty terrified that time is running out given the drug cocktail I am on and my age. I sometimes find hope but lots of times just lots of crying and moaning. Glad to see you..and glad is a novel feeling so this is good. ❤
I think neurotoxity is worse. My brain feels damaged. Can hardly walk. 14 years zoloft paradoxial reaction fast taper. Think the drug camouflages as long as you take it but when you go off completely the damage comes out.
Don’t be hard on yourself for setbacks. It’s normal. We’re all prone to over analyze ourselves. Listen to your body and have faith. Your brain may be short circuited but gut instinct is working. Right now that’s the brain that’s helping me survive. We are designed to survive. That’s why my brain needs to be ignored and my gut instinct is in charge
Hi Angie, my son complains about anger/rage that pops up. He hates the feeling and wants it to go away. Have you or your clients experienced the emotions of anger that comes from nowhere and from no particular reason? My son is slowly tapering off of Clozapine.
Angie, have you ever had anyone have a setback from acupuncture? I’m suffering severely for a week all of my symptoms are back x 10, and it happened right after my acupuncturist put in too many needles.
No I sure haven’t heard anyone experience that. What do you mean by too many? What month of recovery are you in? Are you still tapering or off everything?
I was stable for 3 years but experienced a setback due to alcohol and have been in hell for 9 months. I was healing until this. I think he may have overstimulated me with too many acupuncture needles. I told him I was sensitive and to only put a few in but he but a lot of them in all over my back down my spinal cord and within a few hours I felt back to square one.
I have a question about alcohol; Before this happened, I drank 3,4 times a week. After I got my adverse reaction I completely cut off caffeine, I struggled more to not drink. Not because I was addicted, but because I’m a wine lover and it gave me a sense of normalcy. I eventually cut that off too, unfortunately my job makes it very awkward not to drink at all, I have a family to support and I end up drinking once or twice a month. I don’t feel like it fundamentally affects my baseline, I track my symptoms to try and make sure. Do you think a small amount like that can fundamentally affect my ability to recover? I’m willing to make the changes if necessary but I do not want to unless it’s really needed. My life has enough restrictions as it is. Thank you; ❤
Thanks so much for the response, and for all your work :) Yes, it is a concern of mine because I know alcohol can be a cause for setbacks, or at least temporary slumps. My humble answer to my question is that I do not think that occasional small amounts (say, one or two glasses of wine a month) are a fundamental hindrance to recovery. I do believe, though, that this occasional consumption can cause temporary worsenings and can prolong the syndrome. I do not think I need to stop 100% to heal but I’m not helping myself. Why am I asking you this question though: 1) you have a lot of experience with plenty of people; 2) I have a pro-wine bias because of my emotional need for normalcy. My analysis above could be wrong. Please let me know your thoughts. ^^ Double thanks;
@@DiogoSantos-ix5sl from a non-dogmatic perspective alcohol is NOT good for your brain. It's just not. So do I think it could impact healing? Yes. *watch the Andrew Huberman YT on alcohol to see what I am talking about. But I am not interested in just healing a little. I want to heal all the way and live as healthy as I possibly can. So, I am more of a purist. I have seen the harm relatively minor things can cause so I am biased in that way. I work with people who have the most severest injuries. They can't even entertain the idea of alcohol. It's just that bad. I haven't drank anything myself since 2006 except for a glass of wine in 2010.
@@AngiePeacockMSWThank you so much for your answer; I will definitely watch that. Healing all the way and going all the way huh; it makes sense. I officially quit then, at least for the next 10 years. Thank you ❤
I'm in a setback from vitamin C. An hour after taking it I felt it coming on. I took it a month ago while feeling sick and had to reaction. I d9nt get it. 26 months off for me
It seems like i got a huge setback due to a covidinfection! I m 15 months off ativan 3mg a Day for over 3 years prescribtion. In Januar i got Hit by covid, i was in a good window of my benzowithdrawal, but very soon after my infection all my symptomes came back....
😢, sorry. I want to taper Ativan but have withdrawals already, do you mind sharing your taper method? I lost lots of weight, looking anorexic,insomnia and many symptoms already , l am looking for ideas , tips , worried that won't get off this horrible drug . Shouldn't even have been prescribed in the first place and l m stuck for 9 months . Hope you don't mind sharing
Will I ever be able to lead a normal life after being so injured by so many drugs and not tapering correctly. Off all meds now but not doing well at all
Yes you will. Some symptoms may be severe in the beginning and then lingering. I took 40 meds in 13 years. Most were cold turkey. I didn’t know. The cards fell where they feel. But I live a full life now even with small lingering symptoms. Keep going. You’ll see.
My doctor wanted to give me a benzo because i couldnt sleep in my akute state. I didnt take it. Then he wanted me to take mirtazipine, an antideppressant i told him that this meds caused my suffering. He did not listen to me. I am now 11 months off. I took 2 abtidepressants for 17 years. I did cold turkey. Now i am most time fine. I can nearly live a normal life. Sometimes a symptom says hello and than it dissapeares suddenly. I even can sleep again! Hold on and stay strong!
@@corneliabruckner490Too fast taper 14 years zoloft. Severe WD. Dr gave me sleep benzo, worsened my WD. They want me to take mirtazapine, not gonna take it. Wish I reinstated early on but Im 6 months off now so too late I guess? You are lucky to bee Ok 11 months off. I feel so damaged its probably years. Electrical vibrations brain burning and non functional body. Feels like Neuro toxic injury.
What happens when ativan tolerance and withdrawals set in already, dose can't be raised due to side effects and extreme weight loss (anorexic look, hard to eat) no sleep , abdominal pain, weakness and more , where one goes from there, any hope for recovery at this point?
@@AngiePeacockMSW so if one pushs through taper already having withdrawals, does it mean that symptoms will be getting worse and one will end up in protracted state non stop?
that's the catch 22 of withdrawal. If that's the case, eat what you can that has iron. Whatever your body allows cause I know some of us have benzo belly and food sensitivities. Then you can take supplements when your body is ready.
Again, as I said in the video… sometimes things are needed. You may not have any reaction at all and it may help you. Look for a clean source of iron and listen to your doctor on that one!
I help alcoholics because I am one. I am also tapering from Valium. At least it is Valium and I have been on it only about two and a half years. Switched from Klonopin because I did not want to be on that crap. Good luck.
5 years off and 99.9% back to normal, kratom gave me a massive setback right back into severe akathisia and then back onto a benzo. The akathisia did go away but now I'm stuck tapering a benzo again. This is what I call an extreme setback.
Thanks for katrom info
I’m 41 months off Klonopin after 23 years on. I had a setback 8 months ago from an infection that led to an allergic reaction to amoxicillin and then a traumatic tooth extraction bc I couldn’t take anything to help. It was like I started all over with withdrawal. 8 months from this and I am now dealing with chronic dizziness, weakness, ringing in my ear, and extreme light sensitivity. I’m starting homecare again and my life is at a standstill. I will get back to helping this cause when I’m able, but this sucks!
Jordan Peterson had to go to Eastern Europe to get off scripts since the Western Doctors kept trying to add more drugs. Him and his daughter are on strict diets now. Our food and lifestyle are killing us. Anyone else notice the similarities between vaxx injuries, food sensitivities and withdrawals? With so many on scripts, it looks like a clean diet is the way to go.
People that think they know more or better than you do can cause more harm than they realize.
Yes! I have lost my cat, brother, and 2 weeks ago my father. Stress and grief will definitely be a set back.
I am so sorry.
@@incognito595 it’s been hard. Thank you!
I’m 8 months off and I hurt like hell every thing hurts
This was a Godsend this morning. I'm at the end of a 19 month taper off Ativan. (40 year dependence) and I'm really going through it. The sensory for me is off the charts right now. I feel like an old pro at this now (coping with the WD symptoms 24/7) at almost 2 years. Your videos are very helpful and comforting, Thank you.
Boy I bet you are. Many hugs and prayers
@ravenfeather1467I have been on it for 9 months, taken at bedtime only , it stopped working and developed withdrawals already, but don't want to increase due to side effects, it shouldn't even been prescribed for me . Could you share your taper method, do you have withdrawals, how many doses a day , l don't know how to handle this situation, l m loosing weight, look like anorexic 😢.
@@ellaMel4632 Hi there. I'm happy that you're stopping these now before you are on them for decades. As far as my taper method, I just went by what my psychiatrist told me to do. Was on 3 mg a day. I did a cut of 1/2 milligram every 2-4 months. I am now down to 1/4 of an .05 milligram or less and almost done. I suggest doing a slow taper. Have had W/D all through my taper. There are some websites for support. Benzo buddies, etc. that you may want to check out. Good luck to you.
Thank you Angie. And thank you for validating that sometimes when we are sick or life traumas or stress happens, it is out of our control. You are an angel ❤
Dude, I was so freaked out in withdrawal the first six months after cold turkey I went to the dentist and had all of my metal fillings removed. I think I had eight or nine of them and then I had four root canals done. I did the carpet like everybody suggested but that shit made my face swell up and it really bad and then I would have anxiety for a few days so I just got to where I didn’t take anything I did do OK one time when he mix the norepinephrine or whatever it is, it was all the same except I didn’t have as bad anxiety whenever I didn’t have any general anesthesia to numb anything. I had to go back to the dentist like eight times last year and the year before he probably more than that it was a lot of times. Yep definitely don’t rush, antibiotics for UTI is there is natural ship for that. I didn’t take any of the antibiotics that my dentist wanted me to take for my teeth, my own stuff that does the same purpose I agree you definitely got to be your own doctor and have your own little apothecary. My setbacks have been Covid. Dealing with someone that is fucking evil and car crash or I got a concussion. I should’ve died from that in November but hey, I’m still alive I guess and a few supplements definitely amino acids. Thanks for the video Angie it’s always beautiful to see your beautiful, shiny face with smiles.
Great video! So helpful! As setbacks can be so despairing 😩 but there’s still the capability to heal 🙌🏼
set backs are a topic that are not spoken about enough especially in the benzo community i have a friend who tapered for 3 years then took 2.5 years to full heal....... he was 100 percent healed for about 1 years or so...... he went to help someone he became close to and on his way there that person commuted suicide...... it caused him to start having panic attacks again and boom he was thrown right back into the depths of hell of benzo withdrawal aka paws hes been there for 5 and a half years now with no sight in end 😔😔
Being in a setback for 5 1/2 years sounds terrible but usually something else is going on at that point- are they back on meds? I’ve never heard of anyone being in “acute” level when 8 years off everything.
So sorry
I have the really bad sensitivities too. Is good to hear that they eventually go away. Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks is the only word that comes to my mind.
Thank you for talking about the stress of your dog’s death. Mine just died a month ago and I am devastated. Ihaven’t had many symptoms during my withdrawal so far but I am experiencing some now. I didn’t think the loss of my precious one could bring on symptoms. I am sorry for your loss as well
I'm so sorry! Your CNS will bounce back.
Like always really grateful for you ❤
Thank you, Angie! :)
Thank you Angie. Appreciate you ❤
Thanks Angie! I can totally relate to you!! You are doing amazing work!
Good video angie. Thanks for the info. I didnt know about the anti nausea medication and also the ppis are bad. I didnt find that out until 3 and a half years off. Thanks to you
This is a great informative video!
Thank you. It makes so much sense. You give me courage to keep fighting.
I watched about two years ago Angie during the midst of my withdrawal and your sincere monologues lifted me up! Thanks
Are you better?
Thank you 🙏♥️ you just say all the right things....it relates so much to my "what if" thoughts right now..... Thank you so much 🙏♥️
Amazing video! Thank you! So much insight, experiences, hope and and ways forward in this 20 min and it wasn't a challenge to follow at all.
Thanks Angie 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you very much, I really appreciate your very positive and practical outlook. I trust you and that means a lot.
Thanks, Angie! I learn so much from you - it's very validating to hear you share so many of the same thoughts I have about this process. You rock 🙌❤️
God work Angie 💜
Hey Angie, you mention you usually get the more severe cases and mention ppl on stuff for yrs and polydrugged etc... i was on clonazepam only 3 weeks and am now 29 months out and still recovering, i had a severe acute that lasted about 4 months and a real heallish first 6 months and really wavy first 1,5 year still get real rough days and nights and with symptoms but bigger stretches of being well, but still so wavt. I got tolerance withdrawal on day THREE, except i didnt know then... cold turkeyd after 19,5 days, i was very sick... the classic severe withdrawal story with over 35 symptoms... and completely off the world, i never took any other "meds" just that sensitive... just wanted to share short termers can have real severe reactions too, i dont even know how people can take K for years, i neary died after 19,5 days of 0,5 mg...
I was on Ativan for 10 months and stopped Ct. the first month was pure hell. Before my cycle I go back to like withdrawals insomnia brain zaps internal tremors lost of appetite can’t eat in bed for days cry all the time. Just horrific. How are you now? I’m 3 months out from Ct.
Thanks angie! Seeing you yesterday was very helpful. Im feeling more calm today. ❤ Wishing you a relaxing week. Xo Linde.
Thank you! You just answered a bunch of questions l had! The antibiotics, l finally understood… thank you again
You ARE SO AWESOME , HELPFUL AND HOPEFUL, ALWAYS! Keep up the good work, you keep us all going :)
Thank you Angie. You clarified setbacks really well andin way that I had not thought of before. Medical practitioners really freak me out. Thank you for explaining that it's sometimes necessary to seek their services.
Hope your shoulder heals soon for you.😊
Thank you for the difference you are making in the lives of so many. 😊🙏🥰
Thank you for sharing about loosing your dog and the symptoms that incresed. We just lost our very very loved dog very fast and traumatic way for me and I have now new symptoms I never had before during my tapering. It's good to hear similar experiences. It's beennow really hard, but crying the loss helps also.
Please cry as much as you can. It helped me. It was a hard time. My heart goes out to you.
@@AngiePeacockMSW Thank you ♥️
Hi Angie, thank you for your guidance and reassurance in this video. I am on antibiotics right now after delaying going to the GP which I was dreading to take as I am 10 months off sleep meds and no one understands just how sensitive our CNS has become. I've had to stop some other medication as I was finding them to flare my withdrawal symptoms. I've been dealing with scary neuro protracted withdrawal symptoms and now I am just coping 1 pill at a time and looking at your videos to feel better. There's been ups and downs but I try to distract myself as best as I can to get to that last pill.
Sometimes we can't avoid meds to treat infections as things could get much worse.
Your wisdom gives us the support we need when we are terrified of the unknown.👋☺️
From London.
In the beginning coffee would send me into a severe manic state. But now 7 years in protracted withdrawal I can drink coffee with no problem. I guess one mans blessing, can be another mans curse as far as suppliments goes. Have a great day angie and keep doing what you do. All the best.
By the way you personally got me through a lot. We spoke a lot, your videos were some of the first I encountered. im talking like 7 years ago.
I don’t recognize you by your name here but I’m glad I helped back then but more than anything I’m glad you’re feeling better.
Best video that I have seen yet on Benzo withdrawals and protecting your healing. From Jenny K.
I also healed from severe withdrawal. I can barely stay in the groups because I am so TIRED of people who are still sick, arguing with me about taking supplements and vitamins. vitamins, and supplements will NOT even take the edge off if you have serious withdrawal and if it IS taking the edge off it means that it is doing something that you dont want it to. it is NOT worth taking supplements and vitamins unless you have a severe and tested deficiency and even then your nervous system is not going to give you a break if you take that vitamin to fix the deficiency. if that vitamin his the nervous system wrong it will cause a set back full stop. It is a arm reduction approach to NOT take vitamins and supplements unless you have some serious condition that requires it. But i have no patience for people who take multivitamins to "find a cure", because I have just been dealing with these conversations for so many years now. Great video, I wish people would listen.
I cant understand how i am supposed to keep tapering when i am so ill. I can barely care for myself. I now have histamine intolerance or worse, mcas, can hardly eat anything without having neurogical symptoms and sleep is impossible without taking phenergan, and some nights that doesnt even work. My anxiety is like 100 x what it ever was and functioning is not possible. I dont even want to see anyone, even those closest to me. My husband keeps me alive. This taper is beyond cruel. I am at 6 mg diaz I see myself needing full time care to get off. Horrendous experience that i was in no way prepared for.
I'm so sorry. ❤
Angie you are a badass!!!!! I love everything about you!!! I am tapering 200mg of gabapentiin, then i have ambien and 3 mgs of klonopin to taper. I'm coming off gabap first because i was only on it for a few months. I'm doing liquid taper. My question is do i taper off ambien next or do i taper off 1mg of klonopin and use the ambien to sleep while i water taper off the klonopin? Should i just taper off ambien then wait a month then start the 3mg K taper I guess i am wondering if the ambien will interfere with my braining healing as i slowly taper the K over 3 years of water taper.....I just wanted your opinion. I do have severe insomnia. I just watched the medicating normal documentary and what you went through and the others went through is just mind-boggling! You did a great thing doing the documentary! You are kicking ass as a coach and I know you will help so many people! *HUGS*
Thank you for sharing this. I'm 5 months postpartum currently dealing with a setback. Doc wants me to take ssri but i refuse. 16 months off CT from klonopin. Again... Thank you for sharing
How are you?
Excellent video again. Full of sensible, experienced insight. 17 months off antidepressants after over 31 years,and always feel less lonely and that there's someone out there that gets it even though I'm in protracted withdrawal from antidepressants rather than Benzodiazapines. Thanks.
What are your symtoms?
@@mitch5222 It's a combination of extreme emotional and physical symptoms that fluctuates and alters. Emotional things like stressed, anxious,rage,anger,crying, memory loss,brain fog etc and then physically tired, muscle and joints ache,tense,cramp all over the body, headaches physical symptoms of anxiety & stress,loss of taste,smell,hearing,sinus problems,severe Tinnitus. Just a complete wreck like you've done an extreme weight training session, then got the flu, then heard your dog has been run over by a car and your wife has left you for another man.
A doctor would say you need antidepressants. I say I wished I'd told them to shove em where the sun don't shine.
@@celticwarrior5646 same. Are u afraid of this symtpoms? I am shaking everyday.
How many ads did u take?
@@mitch5222 over the 31 years I took 8 different ones in total. That ranges from Venlafaxine which I took for 1 week, Escitalopram and Amiltryptyline which I took for 3 months each,then Sertraline, Paroxetine,Prozac, Citalopram and Fluvoxamine which I took for years, frequently trying to stop and then reinstating. That's without all the supplements I took with them. All because I couldn't get off them from dependency and that convinced me I had a chemical imbalance. Scandalous.
Ur so freakin awesome Angie. And the lip injection comment was so funny idk why 🤣
No botox for me!
Thank you
Thankfully, my Doctor is working with me. The plan is I will get down from .75 mg to .5 mg and I will try diazepam for three weeks and if my body accepts it I will go to compound pharmacy. Thank you very much for sharing your wisdom. I am one of those people who would probably look for something to calm me. I stopped drinking alcohol three 1/2 months ago.
I hope your shoulder heals. My setbacks have been a major hip surgery. I would have waited knowing what I know now. I.have a not so understanding boyfriend but he has let me be most of the time. I have a young child he's 4 now. Inhave tonget him fed and at daycare while im experiencing brain fog, depression, head heaviness, crying, brain feels impaired, i have felt more stressed when i over did it or got over stimulated from family visits or holidays. Or working out. I need another hip surgery on the right hip eventually and I try not to think about it. Im 7 months off concerta adult ritalin basically. Im getting some windows in the Am and sleeping well. I have tried kava and ashwaganda and stopped because mostly the fear of getting hooked on those. Im praying this comment can help someone someday.
Looking Good, Angie! When people ask me my name, I give it to them, and always say "That's the person I used to be." That is the best way I can describe this Horror. Angie, can you talk about Caffeine, and how other patients respond to it? Think of you, often, Angie. Hope you are well. Thank you.
I would be interested in a talk about coffee and caffeine too!
I have to have a tooth pulled today. Not looking forward to taking any kind of pain medicine but it will probably be necessary for 2 or 3 days.
Thanks
Hey Angie, What a wonderful person you are! I think that when I watch you, every time!. You don't just "phone it in!" Angie, how do you deal with the fact that you, and all of us, have lost so many years of our very precious lives to this Horror? Particularly since "They" knew we never would have taken "their" drugs if we knew what would happen to us? That is a certainty. Without doubt. That is what I will Never recover from. THEIR DECEPTION. THIS IS, OF COURSE, WHY THEY NEVER PROVIDED INFORMED CONSENT! I will never recover from that. The suffering physically and mentally from the brain damage is one thing, but is survivable! It's the DECEPTION, subterfuge and trickery that I will never recover from! The Suffering they have caused so many millions of unknowing, vulnerable, patients! This always amazes me that people don't discuss this issue. For me, this is my biggest trauma, by far. It would be entirely different IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO US!
This is a topic that comes up with my coaching with people almost every single day. I will make. I will make a video about this topic!
Have you ever thought about channeling your anger into advocacy ? It might help with feelings of helplessness and anger towards the injustices and wrongdoings. Every little bit makes a difference and can change the world.
Glorified drug dealers.
The doctors do not know of these effects or if they do, it is only in the rare instance that they see a patient for more than 1 or 2 visits. All you are being treated with are various protocols according to some notion of how things are “supposed” to be done. There are very few docs out there who know how to really diagnose and treat what is really wrong
@@Geoplanetjane I'm pretty sure alot of phyciatrist know what benzos do . They just cover it up because they get big kickbacks from them. There not even fit to be called doctors. Anybody can write a prescription. That's all phyciatrist are is prescription writers. Drug dealers. They don't even know what the drugs they sell really do to people. But in alot of cases they do. I'm not even a phyciatrist an I know what benzos do. How could they not? Expesially by now . They've been out for a long time.
v good Angie ty
I've noted flare ups when I get sick or when on my period. Flare ups to the point where i have to take time off work because i can't stop pacing. But then it stops quickly. especially as more time goes by since I jumped, the symptom flare ups aren't as severe, but what it more noticeable for me is the symptoms rapid cycle. opposed to staying for for a couple weeks and then slowly going away.
Excellent progress!!
Your the best! Which magnesium is best??..so much contradicting info on it.
Most are doing mag glyconate but look for one without magnesium staerate or silicon dioxide if possible.
Somatic Experiencing can take the built up emotional trauma from the body which helps in all aspects of healing.
Create a document in case of hospitalization that sets limits on what they can do. Our medical services are incentivized to prescribe/provide certain drugs/protocols.
This is great Ang. I'm 4.5 months off now and past few days, wake feeling like I'm being hunted !! It's not anxiety, I feel scared, almost like a child????
Hey I had the same experience. I thought the crows were going to eat me. It seemed very real at the time but it's just the fear. Have a look at Anges post on fear. It's ok it will pass. It's the mind going through readjustment.
@@Mrnomadnworb so weird? I've been healing well, I'm sleeping really well now but the past few weeks sx have been so bad !!! I'm hoping this is the storm before the calm !! Lots of healing in this wave I'm hoping !! Past few days, strange creepy blunted emotions for the first time since my CT detox !!
It's a long old road to recovery. I found swimming really good. Mostly at the beach. Eating healthy, Listening to nice music that didn't freak me out too much and finding places like this helped a lot when things got really intense. Time is a major factor and keeping yourself safe so you make it out through the otherside because there is hope 100% Peace n Love
@@lisasmith814
Same. Blunted. Fear. Crying. Damaged brain fast taper. Severe WD.
Did you have histamine intolerance at all in withdrawal? And if so, did it go away naturally with time ?
I agree that it’s the same injury. I have symptoms similar to wd but my issues started with floxing and then they were exacerbated by wd but I was healing. Not perfect but I saw a lot of improvement, some issues healed. However, I got waaaay worse after I had a reaction to a hormonal med, got pregnant, then had to take an antibiotic, then I had more meds in my c-section. It all made me so sick. New symptoms, electricity gone haywire. It’s almost been 10 months since the c-section and I am in the worst spot I have been constantly getting worse. I wonder if it will ever level out and start improving… 😢
😢
I had a bad setback after being pregnant.
Hi Angie. I’m curious if you know how Hormone replacement interacts with drug withdrawal. I’m trying to taper an antipsychotic while I’m being treated for a thyroid disorder and menopause. So I’m on thyroid hormone and estrogen and progesterone.. I’m not sure I can stop either one without serious health consequences.
Any thoughts?
I never knew how hard it was gonna be coming off these psych meds. Holy shiiiiiiit. Cannot believe this happens to people. I was ripped off mine. Sup hell. Sucks here huh.
Hell is an understatement!
Didnt know either. Nigtmare. Beyond hard. Holy shiiit is the word. Totally ripped off body, head, mind.
Sugar makes my head ringing so much loader, I took phenegran and oh my gosh woke up and terrified feelings. Kneck pain from a car accident and hydrocodone helps.
And theres a HUGE difference between smoking street Marijuana and taking MJ oil prescribed. It saves me at the moment (I'm in Australia and prescribed)
What is the consequence of other drugs (like antibiotics) when you're an antidepressant survivor or tappering?
Having horrific effects from antibiotic needed for tooth infection 😫 whilst tapering antidepressant. So frightening.
It happens but sometimes we just don’t have a choice and have to take them!
Hi, so useful video.
I am 7 months off benzos now, very less short windows for me, that too not clear.
I am very sensitive to stress, smells and other things.
Can fatty capric alcohol ( from coconut oil) in my hair shampoo exaggerate the symptoms? I felt increased brain fog, confusion after using it. Can this shampoo be the cause?
Question! Those rare setbacks you talked about at the end where people are thrown back into acute, how is the trajectory of those from there? Is the recovery from scratch then again or is it faster?
Everyone is different. Some have setbacks for a few days, some a few weeks, some a few months or longer. Everyone is different, truly.
@@AngiePeacockMSW okey. So you actually mean that some people after years go back to scratch after for example one dose or something of antiemetics?
Is propranolol bad for you? It was prescribed when I got akathisia. Would I have to taper off if I wanted to stop taking it. I only recently got diagnosed. Did you have akathisia and how long did you have it before you recovered?
I got it from Risperdal when she figured out I had akathisia she put me on lamotrigine. I am tapering off that now.
Angie what about coffee, I suffer from chronic insomnia+ I'm addicted!!
Angie i need surgery cant breath thus the nose polyp has to cut out . End pf April this was a huge help
We can talk about it when I see you next!
@AngiePeacockMSW Thanks. .ya the polyp has fully blocked my nostril Breathing normal is impossible I tried to put off till fall but can't I thaught I would be over this but even through I am much better sadly not 100%
After 3 years on ativan 1mg ,I stopped taking it in December ,here in March I get a feeling of anxiety , my throat is so tight feeling . is this withdrawal ? I figured it would be out of my system by now ?
I have glaucoma an cant see nothing threw these withdrawals.
I was 3 SSRI drugs for 7 years. I went off all of them at the same time 5 months ago. I found a supplement that helped me function through my normal life. Sometimes I tried a different supplement but always went back to the same one. Ive been taking this supplement consistently now for about 3 months. Would it be ok to keep taking the one supplement but then just not take anything else.
I’m having cataract surgery and will be given 10 mg. of Valium. I’ve been off Valium for 18 months and I’m worried about a set back. Is there another sedation medication that I should use?
I’m 5 days out from a set back, I was about 85% healed and back to living life. I took macrobid for 4 days (8 pills) and was completely fine until i introduced an omega 3 supplement for the first time and crap hit the fan. I want to think it was the fish oil as I was doing fine on the antibiotics. Is it possible this could be short lived and not take years out? I’m freaking out and desperate for reassurance. I’ve read fish oil can be activating for some. Will I still heal from this? I’m sobbing all day long because I’m so scared I have to start over from the beginning. I’m praying it takes a few weeks to calm down but the uncertainty is killing me. I would also like to say, I had a uti and the culture came back for E. coli so I feel like this was maybe necessary. I regret taking it though
Psychiatry has been tasked by our culture to provide a cadre of ritual specialists to serve as deviance enforcers via a degradation ritual in the name of medicalizing and labeling the occurrence and expression of human emotional suffering, which society dictates must fall between proscribed limits of acceptability.
Angie, what about people who already had severe mental illnesses prior to medication use that make their withdrawal experience much worse but want to try new treatments in hope of relief, would that be too dangerous? I don’t think i can handle both for a long time…
I don't think it's either / or. It can be both / and. Harm Reduction might be a better option WHILE seeking other treatment options that are less harmful. SLOW taper to a lower dose while building a new understanding of your distress and what brought you to meds in the first place. Consider this: willhall.net/comingoffmeds/
P.S. There are lots of people with SMI diagnoses that come off or come lower and are living wonderful lives! (I am one of them)
I’m in a protrcted it’s been confirmed by medical staff and it’s not fun
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What if you were ct’ed and you haven’t had a window. 19 months of total loss of self and understanding.
watch the next video that comes out Wednesday.
Ive been on Seroquel anti psychotic for 8 years and had 7 relaps trying to get off this shit...also had 55 shocks to the brain...every time i get to a low dose i end up in another reality
I remember your dog passing ❤ 😢
It was terrible! 😢
At times I can drink coffee and I feel great. Other times I think it's really messing with me. 🤔
Yes! Me, too. I think it is dependent on the amount of coffee? I'm trying to figure that out, myself!
@@incognito595 usually 1 cup is ok. 2 cups and I'm wrecked! But other times 1 cup is too much...???
Coffee is potent, be careful ❤
Same here.❤
Yes same here for me. I typically just drink through the anxiety it gives me sometimes though. Caffeine anxiety is nothing like withdrawal anxiety to me so I just try to ignore it and keep drinking. I am a bad example!
How many years have you been free from WD and how long did it take to feel good ?
I’m 8 years off after being on 40 different psych drugs in a 13 year period. Went through benzo withdrawal several times during those years and put on all kinds of things. So! That meant I was severely kindled and was cold turkey AGAIN off the last drug I took. So… it took me 6 1/2 years to feel even slightly normal again. I went through HELL but am better now than I’ve ever been in my whole life. It was worth fighting for. I am also a more severe case so please stay in your own experience and try not to compare to me.
When I take vitamin D specialy or megnesium i feel crapy in like an hour or two then start feeling better but I cant take it on daily basis like regime but I feel like vitamin D helps alot in the long run. Can you suggest that I can get dependant on vitamin D and has to take it for the rest of my life just so that I can take the age of my symptoms.
P.s I am 4 years off curently on 5th year and I feel like some of my symptoms has gotten better but i have developed other very bad ones. I dont understand angie.
Thansk for the video thou❤
I’m not sure what you mean about being dependent on Vitamin D. When you feel better and heal more it’s possible your D levels will improve once you’re able to be outside in the sun more consistently. I couldn’t really take things consistently at that time off either.
@@AngiePeacockMSW may we all heal soon and happy.
Love and support angie❤
You mentioned botox should be avoided. I get botox every 3 months for migraines and it helps. I'm in the process of tapering. Now I'm afraid to continue the botox as I continue my taper. What do you advise Angie?
That’s your own personal choice. Read the pamphlet for Botox and talk with your doctors and pharmacists about it. I don’t give medical advice. Some react to it some don’t. Some have to take things while others avoid things. It’s a personal decision you should make after knowing about the drug you need and speaking with people who are knowledgeable in that particular treatment.
@@AngiePeacockMSW Always good to see and hear you Angie.So gifted, strong and loving.
I am tapering oh so slowly. Pretty terrified that time is running out given the drug cocktail I am on and my age. I sometimes find hope but lots of times just lots of crying and moaning. Glad to see you..and glad is a novel feeling so this is good. ❤
Angie..how do we know of it's protracted withdrawal or Neurotoxicity?
I believe it’s one and the same. Semantics. The healing process is still the same regardless of what you call it.
I think neurotoxity is worse. My brain feels damaged. Can hardly walk. 14 years zoloft paradoxial reaction fast taper. Think the drug camouflages as long as you take it but when you go off completely the damage comes out.
Can constant stress due to some family member increase our mental symptoms?
And can it delays or slow down our healing process?
I have this too as family illness and so stressed about it. Stress is definitely very high. Can anybody suggest ways to cope with stress
Don’t be hard on yourself for setbacks. It’s normal. We’re all prone to over analyze ourselves. Listen to your body and have faith. Your brain may be short circuited but gut instinct is working. Right now that’s the brain that’s helping me survive. We are designed to survive. That’s why my brain needs to be ignored and my gut instinct is in charge
Our bodies hypersensitivity is NOT normal.
Angie do you have any coaching openings?
Not until May. You may join one of the groups though!
Hi Angie, my son complains about anger/rage that pops up. He hates the feeling and wants it to go away. Have you or your clients experienced the emotions of anger that comes from nowhere and from no particular reason? My son is slowly tapering off of Clozapine.
Yes! Watch the video 2 before this one about “neuro emotion.” I talk a lot about the anger!
@@AngiePeacockMSW thank you, Angie
I had it really bad.. I’m 5 years off and it’s improved massively. Still pops up at times but it’s infrequent now.
Angie, have you ever had anyone have a setback from acupuncture? I’m suffering severely for a week all of my symptoms are back x 10, and it happened right after my acupuncturist put in too many needles.
No I sure haven’t heard anyone experience that. What do you mean by too many?
What month of recovery are you in? Are you still tapering or off everything?
I was stable for 3 years but experienced a setback due to alcohol and have been in hell for 9 months. I was healing until this. I think he may have overstimulated me with too many acupuncture needles. I told him I was sensitive and to only put a few in but he but a lot of them in all over my back down my spinal cord and within a few hours I felt back to square one.
@@JennaWoods-ov8ks Could it just be a wave?
Hola
I have a question about alcohol;
Before this happened, I drank 3,4 times a week. After I got my adverse reaction I completely cut off caffeine, I struggled more to not drink.
Not because I was addicted, but because I’m a wine lover and it gave me a sense of normalcy.
I eventually cut that off too, unfortunately my job makes it very awkward not to drink at all, I have a family to support and I end up drinking once or twice a month.
I don’t feel like it fundamentally affects my baseline, I track my symptoms to try and make sure.
Do you think a small amount like that can fundamentally affect my ability to recover?
I’m willing to make the changes if necessary but I do not want to unless it’s really needed.
My life has enough restrictions as it is.
Thank you; ❤
I think that it must be a concern of yours to write this question to me so I would ask you first what do you think is the answer to your own question?
Thanks so much for the response, and for all your work :)
Yes, it is a concern of mine because I know alcohol can be a cause for setbacks, or at least temporary slumps.
My humble answer to my question is that I do not think that occasional small amounts (say, one or two glasses of wine a month) are a fundamental hindrance to recovery.
I do believe, though, that this occasional consumption can cause temporary worsenings and can prolong the syndrome.
I do not think I need to stop 100% to heal but I’m not helping myself.
Why am I asking you this question though:
1) you have a lot of experience with plenty of people;
2) I have a pro-wine bias because of my emotional need for normalcy.
My analysis above could be wrong. Please let me know your thoughts. ^^
Double thanks;
@@DiogoSantos-ix5sl from a non-dogmatic perspective alcohol is NOT good for your brain. It's just not. So do I think it could impact healing? Yes. *watch the Andrew Huberman YT on alcohol to see what I am talking about.
But I am not interested in just healing a little. I want to heal all the way and live as healthy as I possibly can. So, I am more of a purist. I have seen the harm relatively minor things can cause so I am biased in that way. I work with people who have the most severest injuries. They can't even entertain the idea of alcohol. It's just that bad. I haven't drank anything myself since 2006 except for a glass of wine in 2010.
@@AngiePeacockMSWThank you so much for your answer; I will definitely watch that.
Healing all the way and going all the way huh; it makes sense.
I officially quit then, at least for the next 10 years.
Thank you ❤
I'm in a setback from vitamin C. An hour after taking it I felt it coming on. I took it a month ago while feeling sick and had to reaction. I d9nt get it. 26 months off for me
Sometimes it’s not the substance- it’s the state of your CNS on any particular day.
Dies that mean that my CNS I'd still to sensitive for vitamin c?
I have the same experience with food. Some days I can tolerate certain foods and other days I'll have a reaction to the same food
How are you feeling? I’m 27 months off and had a setback from omega 3. Scary stuff
@@user-ww5ui4fd9n I'm feeling so much better. A week ago my symptoms dramatically decreased. I forgot I could feel this good. How about you
It seems like i got a huge setback due to a covidinfection! I m 15 months off ativan 3mg a Day for over 3 years prescribtion. In Januar i got Hit by covid, i was in a good window of my benzowithdrawal, but very soon after my infection all my symptomes came back....
Yes that can happen for some. I’ve had it 4 times though and zero setbacks from it.
😢, sorry. I want to taper Ativan but have withdrawals already, do you mind sharing your taper method? I lost lots of weight, looking anorexic,insomnia and many symptoms already , l am looking for ideas , tips , worried that won't get off this horrible drug . Shouldn't even have been prescribed in the first place and l m stuck for 9 months . Hope you don't mind sharing
Will I ever be able to lead a normal life after being so injured by so many drugs and not tapering correctly. Off all meds now but not doing well at all
Yes you will. Some symptoms may be severe in the beginning and then lingering. I took 40 meds in 13 years. Most were cold turkey. I didn’t know. The cards fell where they feel. But I live a full life now even with small lingering symptoms. Keep going. You’ll see.
Dr wants me to take an anti depressant citalopram. Is it ever worth it.
How do I find the strength to keep going as nobody understands and just insist I take more meds
My doctor wanted to give me a benzo because i couldnt sleep in my akute state. I didnt take it. Then he wanted me to take mirtazipine, an antideppressant i told him that this meds caused my suffering. He did not listen to me. I am now 11 months off. I took 2 abtidepressants for 17 years. I did cold turkey. Now i am most time fine. I can nearly live a normal life. Sometimes a symptom says hello and than it dissapeares suddenly. I even can sleep again! Hold on and stay strong!
@@corneliabruckner490Too fast taper 14 years zoloft. Severe WD. Dr gave me sleep benzo, worsened my WD. They want me to take mirtazapine, not gonna take it. Wish I reinstated early on but Im 6 months off now so too late I guess? You are lucky to bee Ok 11 months off. I feel so damaged its probably years. Electrical vibrations brain burning and non functional body. Feels like Neuro toxic injury.
What happens when ativan tolerance and withdrawals set in already, dose can't be raised due to side effects and extreme weight loss (anorexic look, hard to eat) no sleep , abdominal pain, weakness and more , where one goes from there, any hope for recovery at this point?
Some hold for a while, some taper anyway because they couldn’t get stable.
@@AngiePeacockMSW so if one pushs through taper already having withdrawals, does it mean that symptoms will be getting worse and one will end up in protracted state non stop?
What if we need iron supplements due to iron deficiency but are very sensitive to them?
that's the catch 22 of withdrawal. If that's the case, eat what you can that has iron. Whatever your body allows cause I know some of us have benzo belly and food sensitivities. Then you can take supplements when your body is ready.
Again, as I said in the video… sometimes things are needed. You may not have any reaction at all and it may help you. Look for a clean source of iron and listen to your doctor on that one!
Be careful with steroids in Medical
I help alcoholics because I am one. I am also tapering from Valium. At least it is Valium and I have been on it only about two and a half years. Switched from Klonopin because I did not want to be on that crap. Good luck.