I’m 41 months off Klonopin after 23 years on. I had a setback 8 months ago from an infection that led to an allergic reaction to amoxicillin and then a traumatic tooth extraction bc I couldn’t take anything to help. It was like I started all over with withdrawal. 8 months from this and I am now dealing with chronic dizziness, weakness, ringing in my ear, and extreme light sensitivity. I’m starting homecare again and my life is at a standstill. I will get back to helping this cause when I’m able, but this sucks!
It’s awful when you are leading your life again after being through what is very difficult then you drink something and wow it affects your histamine levels so badly that you feel like you are back taking your benzo again and it’s not helping
5 years off and 99.9% back to normal, kratom gave me a massive setback right back into severe akathisia and then back onto a benzo. The akathisia did go away but now I'm stuck tapering a benzo again. This is what I call an extreme setback.
Oh man. Im 2.5 years off. I took freaking Ashwaghanda for anxiety. It SENT me into the worst wave of my life. I’ve taken so many supplements during this process, including psilocybin tiny doses, I reacted well to everything. Until the f**** Ashwaghanda. It’s horrific. I hope you feel better now ?? 🙏🏻
This was a Godsend this morning. I'm at the end of a 19 month taper off Ativan. (40 year dependence) and I'm really going through it. The sensory for me is off the charts right now. I feel like an old pro at this now (coping with the WD symptoms 24/7) at almost 2 years. Your videos are very helpful and comforting, Thank you.
@ravenfeather1467I have been on it for 9 months, taken at bedtime only , it stopped working and developed withdrawals already, but don't want to increase due to side effects, it shouldn't even been prescribed for me . Could you share your taper method, do you have withdrawals, how many doses a day , l don't know how to handle this situation, l m loosing weight, look like anorexic 😢.
@@ellaMel4632 Hi there. I'm happy that you're stopping these now before you are on them for decades. As far as my taper method, I just went by what my psychiatrist told me to do. Was on 3 mg a day. I did a cut of 1/2 milligram every 2-4 months. I am now down to 1/4 of an .05 milligram or less and almost done. I suggest doing a slow taper. Have had W/D all through my taper. There are some websites for support. Benzo buddies, etc. that you may want to check out. Good luck to you.
@@ellaMel4632 I god don’t worry about that trust me you will gain it all back and more!! I was 9 stone 7 after my ct off of low use and dose of Valium and zolpidem I gained 2 stone
Jordan Peterson had to go to Eastern Europe to get off scripts since the Western Doctors kept trying to add more drugs. Him and his daughter are on strict diets now. Our food and lifestyle are killing us. Anyone else notice the similarities between vaxx injuries, food sensitivities and withdrawals? With so many on scripts, it looks like a clean diet is the way to go.
I didn’t get the vax but I sure wish that when I was healing from a ct off of Valium that I had then I would of learnt early on about set backs while I was still in that mind set
Thank you Angie. And thank you for validating that sometimes when we are sick or life traumas or stress happens, it is out of our control. You are an angel ❤
Angie talks about set backs I wish that she had been mentioned to me when I was first going through this they don’t talk about set backs on the main group on the one group I was a member of only telling you to avoid coffee and supplements and some herbs nobody talked about akasthia hell and how you could get that from discontinuing an anti depressant and yet again it’s mentioned in the Ashton manual that some people may take one to deal with the depression from benzo withdrawals !
Dude, I was so freaked out in withdrawal the first six months after cold turkey I went to the dentist and had all of my metal fillings removed. I think I had eight or nine of them and then I had four root canals done. I did the carpet like everybody suggested but that shit made my face swell up and it really bad and then I would have anxiety for a few days so I just got to where I didn’t take anything I did do OK one time when he mix the norepinephrine or whatever it is, it was all the same except I didn’t have as bad anxiety whenever I didn’t have any general anesthesia to numb anything. I had to go back to the dentist like eight times last year and the year before he probably more than that it was a lot of times. Yep definitely don’t rush, antibiotics for UTI is there is natural ship for that. I didn’t take any of the antibiotics that my dentist wanted me to take for my teeth, my own stuff that does the same purpose I agree you definitely got to be your own doctor and have your own little apothecary. My setbacks have been Covid. Dealing with someone that is fucking evil and car crash or I got a concussion. I should’ve died from that in November but hey, I’m still alive I guess and a few supplements definitely amino acids. Thanks for the video Angie it’s always beautiful to see your beautiful, shiny face with smiles.
set backs are a topic that are not spoken about enough especially in the benzo community i have a friend who tapered for 3 years then took 2.5 years to full heal....... he was 100 percent healed for about 1 years or so...... he went to help someone he became close to and on his way there that person commuted suicide...... it caused him to start having panic attacks again and boom he was thrown right back into the depths of hell of benzo withdrawal aka paws hes been there for 5 and a half years now with no sight in end 😔😔
Being in a setback for 5 1/2 years sounds terrible but usually something else is going on at that point- are they back on meds? I’ve never heard of anyone being in “acute” level when 8 years off everything.
Sounds like me I had major stress from close partner and then I drank and ate high histamine fermented products and I started having problems sleeping, intrusive thoughts and sensitivity to sound and had dp/dr yet 4 months before I felt 20:01 great. When I suffered from the set back I felt like I had been on the Valium for a few months and it wasn’t working omg I had my house up for sale too and I had to take it off the market. I then felt suicidal never felt that when on Valium or ct off of it. Instead of asking for advice on the groups I couldn’t ask Angie or Chris or Dan as nobody had talked about them to me I panicked as my sleep had been great again and not sleeping and the anxiety and being depressed after 2 years of living again I went to my doctor forgetting time was the only healer and got given mirtazapine the worst thing i wish I had just stayed away from doctors, friend and chemist I now have akasthia! 8 months and no Windows! Will I heal from this I’m very very scared.
Excellent video again. Full of sensible, experienced insight. 17 months off antidepressants after over 31 years,and always feel less lonely and that there's someone out there that gets it even though I'm in protracted withdrawal from antidepressants rather than Benzodiazapines. Thanks.
@@mitch5222 It's a combination of extreme emotional and physical symptoms that fluctuates and alters. Emotional things like stressed, anxious,rage,anger,crying, memory loss,brain fog etc and then physically tired, muscle and joints ache,tense,cramp all over the body, headaches physical symptoms of anxiety & stress,loss of taste,smell,hearing,sinus problems,severe Tinnitus. Just a complete wreck like you've done an extreme weight training session, then got the flu, then heard your dog has been run over by a car and your wife has left you for another man. A doctor would say you need antidepressants. I say I wished I'd told them to shove em where the sun don't shine.
@@mitch5222 over the 31 years I took 8 different ones in total. That ranges from Venlafaxine which I took for 1 week, Escitalopram and Amiltryptyline which I took for 3 months each,then Sertraline, Paroxetine,Prozac, Citalopram and Fluvoxamine which I took for years, frequently trying to stop and then reinstating. That's without all the supplements I took with them. All because I couldn't get off them from dependency and that convinced me I had a chemical imbalance. Scandalous.
Yes and diet is important yet hardly anyone on the Benzo groups talks about histamine etc and how it’s something you will have to watch for a good 10 years not 6 to 18 months! Even Ashton manual says at 2 years off you can have a glass of wine yeah and expect to be back in hell again
@@sarahpearsall2248 I’m now at 11 months off and feeling great! Working with a functional medicine doctor to heal my gut. You’re absolutely right! No one talks about the importance of histamines and diet and all that. I strongly suggest having a GI-Map test done to see what needs to be fixed after the harm these meds cause.
Hey Angie, you mention you usually get the more severe cases and mention ppl on stuff for yrs and polydrugged etc... i was on clonazepam only 3 weeks and am now 29 months out and still recovering, i had a severe acute that lasted about 4 months and a real heallish first 6 months and really wavy first 1,5 year still get real rough days and nights and with symptoms but bigger stretches of being well, but still so wavt. I got tolerance withdrawal on day THREE, except i didnt know then... cold turkeyd after 19,5 days, i was very sick... the classic severe withdrawal story with over 35 symptoms... and completely off the world, i never took any other "meds" just that sensitive... just wanted to share short termers can have real severe reactions too, i dont even know how people can take K for years, i neary died after 19,5 days of 0,5 mg...
I was on Ativan for 10 months and stopped Ct. the first month was pure hell. Before my cycle I go back to like withdrawals insomnia brain zaps internal tremors lost of appetite can’t eat in bed for days cry all the time. Just horrific. How are you now? I’m 3 months out from Ct.
Thank you for talking about the stress of your dog’s death. Mine just died a month ago and I am devastated. Ihaven’t had many symptoms during my withdrawal so far but I am experiencing some now. I didn’t think the loss of my precious one could bring on symptoms. I am sorry for your loss as well
I also healed from severe withdrawal. I can barely stay in the groups because I am so TIRED of people who are still sick, arguing with me about taking supplements and vitamins. vitamins, and supplements will NOT even take the edge off if you have serious withdrawal and if it IS taking the edge off it means that it is doing something that you dont want it to. it is NOT worth taking supplements and vitamins unless you have a severe and tested deficiency and even then your nervous system is not going to give you a break if you take that vitamin to fix the deficiency. if that vitamin his the nervous system wrong it will cause a set back full stop. It is a arm reduction approach to NOT take vitamins and supplements unless you have some serious condition that requires it. But i have no patience for people who take multivitamins to "find a cure", because I have just been dealing with these conversations for so many years now. Great video, I wish people would listen.
Thank you for sharing about loosing your dog and the symptoms that incresed. We just lost our very very loved dog very fast and traumatic way for me and I have now new symptoms I never had before during my tapering. It's good to hear similar experiences. It's beennow really hard, but crying the loss helps also.
In the beginning coffee would send me into a severe manic state. But now 7 years in protracted withdrawal I can drink coffee with no problem. I guess one mans blessing, can be another mans curse as far as suppliments goes. Have a great day angie and keep doing what you do. All the best.
11:54 omg! I had something similar when I connected via zoom with other people, it's like my nervous system couldn't handle it and I got terrified even before I actually entered the call. Hapens the same with phone calls, I don't answer anymore unless it's a relative or a friend. It gives me like an allergic reaction of anxiety. Really weird
@@cheryllryan8440 I know people can feel anxiety from an unexpected call. But now sometimes I can't even breath and feel overwhelmed. This didn't use to happen to me before. And most of the time I have my emotions in check.
Hey Angie, What a wonderful person you are! I think that when I watch you, every time!. You don't just "phone it in!" Angie, how do you deal with the fact that you, and all of us, have lost so many years of our very precious lives to this Horror? Particularly since "They" knew we never would have taken "their" drugs if we knew what would happen to us? That is a certainty. Without doubt. That is what I will Never recover from. THEIR DECEPTION. THIS IS, OF COURSE, WHY THEY NEVER PROVIDED INFORMED CONSENT! I will never recover from that. The suffering physically and mentally from the brain damage is one thing, but is survivable! It's the DECEPTION, subterfuge and trickery that I will never recover from! The Suffering they have caused so many millions of unknowing, vulnerable, patients! This always amazes me that people don't discuss this issue. For me, this is my biggest trauma, by far. It would be entirely different IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO US!
Have you ever thought about channeling your anger into advocacy ? It might help with feelings of helplessness and anger towards the injustices and wrongdoings. Every little bit makes a difference and can change the world.
The doctors do not know of these effects or if they do, it is only in the rare instance that they see a patient for more than 1 or 2 visits. All you are being treated with are various protocols according to some notion of how things are “supposed” to be done. There are very few docs out there who know how to really diagnose and treat what is really wrong
@@Geoplanetjane I'm pretty sure alot of phyciatrist know what benzos do . They just cover it up because they get big kickbacks from them. There not even fit to be called doctors. Anybody can write a prescription. That's all phyciatrist are is prescription writers. Drug dealers. They don't even know what the drugs they sell really do to people. But in alot of cases they do. I'm not even a phyciatrist an I know what benzos do. How could they not? Expesially by now . They've been out for a long time.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm 5 months postpartum currently dealing with a setback. Doc wants me to take ssri but i refuse. 16 months off CT from klonopin. Again... Thank you for sharing
Thank you Angie. You clarified setbacks really well andin way that I had not thought of before. Medical practitioners really freak me out. Thank you for explaining that it's sometimes necessary to seek their services. Hope your shoulder heals soon for you.😊 Thank you for the difference you are making in the lives of so many. 😊🙏🥰
I sustained a rotary cuff injury while healing from Valium ct and low dose and use of zolpidem I went to the hospital for an x Ray but I couldn’t take the pain relief due to being asthmatic but the pain was welcome after feeling a bit numb and I was healed within 6 weeks and able to raise my arm on its own again but compared to my set back 2 years later and even child birth this akasthia I got from too fast a withdrawal from mirtazapine is torture and all because nobody in any of the support groups talked about things that can cause set backs years after you think your brain is healed
Looking Good, Angie! When people ask me my name, I give it to them, and always say "That's the person I used to be." That is the best way I can describe this Horror. Angie, can you talk about Caffeine, and how other patients respond to it? Think of you, often, Angie. Hope you are well. Thank you.
Hi Angie, thank you for your guidance and reassurance in this video. I am on antibiotics right now after delaying going to the GP which I was dreading to take as I am 10 months off sleep meds and no one understands just how sensitive our CNS has become. I've had to stop some other medication as I was finding them to flare my withdrawal symptoms. I've been dealing with scary neuro protracted withdrawal symptoms and now I am just coping 1 pill at a time and looking at your videos to feel better. There's been ups and downs but I try to distract myself as best as I can to get to that last pill. Sometimes we can't avoid meds to treat infections as things could get much worse. Your wisdom gives us the support we need when we are terrified of the unknown.👋☺️ From London.
I cant understand how i am supposed to keep tapering when i am so ill. I can barely care for myself. I now have histamine intolerance or worse, mcas, can hardly eat anything without having neurogical symptoms and sleep is impossible without taking phenergan, and some nights that doesnt even work. My anxiety is like 100 x what it ever was and functioning is not possible. I dont even want to see anyone, even those closest to me. My husband keeps me alive. This taper is beyond cruel. I am at 6 mg diaz I see myself needing full time care to get off. Horrendous experience that i was in no way prepared for.
Thankfully, my Doctor is working with me. The plan is I will get down from .75 mg to .5 mg and I will try diazepam for three weeks and if my body accepts it I will go to compound pharmacy. Thank you very much for sharing your wisdom. I am one of those people who would probably look for something to calm me. I stopped drinking alcohol three 1/2 months ago.
I agree that it’s the same injury. I have symptoms similar to wd but my issues started with floxing and then they were exacerbated by wd but I was healing. Not perfect but I saw a lot of improvement, some issues healed. However, I got waaaay worse after I had a reaction to a hormonal med, got pregnant, then had to take an antibiotic, then I had more meds in my c-section. It all made me so sick. New symptoms, electricity gone haywire. It’s almost been 10 months since the c-section and I am in the worst spot I have been constantly getting worse. I wonder if it will ever level out and start improving… 😢
Hypersensitivities to all of my senses including lights, smells, sounds, clothing/bedding textures, temperatures, and especially anxiety. Is that what you mean by sensitivities? What helps?
Angie you are a badass!!!!! I love everything about you!!! I am tapering 200mg of gabapentiin, then i have ambien and 3 mgs of klonopin to taper. I'm coming off gabap first because i was only on it for a few months. I'm doing liquid taper. My question is do i taper off ambien next or do i taper off 1mg of klonopin and use the ambien to sleep while i water taper off the klonopin? Should i just taper off ambien then wait a month then start the 3mg K taper I guess i am wondering if the ambien will interfere with my braining healing as i slowly taper the K over 3 years of water taper.....I just wanted your opinion. I do have severe insomnia. I just watched the medicating normal documentary and what you went through and the others went through is just mind-boggling! You did a great thing doing the documentary! You are kicking ass as a coach and I know you will help so many people! *HUGS*
I never knew how hard it was gonna be coming off these psych meds. Holy shiiiiiiit. Cannot believe this happens to people. I was ripped off mine. Sup hell. Sucks here huh.
I've noted flare ups when I get sick or when on my period. Flare ups to the point where i have to take time off work because i can't stop pacing. But then it stops quickly. especially as more time goes by since I jumped, the symptom flare ups aren't as severe, but what it more noticeable for me is the symptoms rapid cycle. opposed to staying for for a couple weeks and then slowly going away.
This is great Ang. I'm 4.5 months off now and past few days, wake feeling like I'm being hunted !! It's not anxiety, I feel scared, almost like a child????
Hey I had the same experience. I thought the crows were going to eat me. It seemed very real at the time but it's just the fear. Have a look at Anges post on fear. It's ok it will pass. It's the mind going through readjustment.
@@Mrnomadnworb so weird? I've been healing well, I'm sleeping really well now but the past few weeks sx have been so bad !!! I'm hoping this is the storm before the calm !! Lots of healing in this wave I'm hoping !! Past few days, strange creepy blunted emotions for the first time since my CT detox !!
It's a long old road to recovery. I found swimming really good. Mostly at the beach. Eating healthy, Listening to nice music that didn't freak me out too much and finding places like this helped a lot when things got really intense. Time is a major factor and keeping yourself safe so you make it out through the otherside because there is hope 100% Peace n Love @@lisasmith814
Somatic Experiencing can take the built up emotional trauma from the body which helps in all aspects of healing. Create a document in case of hospitalization that sets limits on what they can do. Our medical services are incentivized to prescribe/provide certain drugs/protocols.
And theres a HUGE difference between smoking street Marijuana and taking MJ oil prescribed. It saves me at the moment (I'm in Australia and prescribed)
Sugar makes my head ringing so much loader, I took phenegran and oh my gosh woke up and terrified feelings. Kneck pain from a car accident and hydrocodone helps.
Hi Angie. I’m curious if you know how Hormone replacement interacts with drug withdrawal. I’m trying to taper an antipsychotic while I’m being treated for a thyroid disorder and menopause. So I’m on thyroid hormone and estrogen and progesterone.. I’m not sure I can stop either one without serious health consequences. Any thoughts?
Yes same here for me. I typically just drink through the anxiety it gives me sometimes though. Caffeine anxiety is nothing like withdrawal anxiety to me so I just try to ignore it and keep drinking. I am a bad example!
Good video angie. Thanks for the info. I didnt know about the anti nausea medication and also the ppis are bad. I didnt find that out until 3 and a half years off. Thanks to you
I had a severe protracted withdraw syndrome more than 70 symptoms after 7 years of long term use of lexapro that had severe side effects and 4 attempts quit but I still was healing slowly. Cant describe what I experienced for heal 30% at 2 years and still my brain was changing. I took 50mg of panax ginseng and 7 months since then, i got everything back! I developed even new symptoms! Is the first time I don't heal..I really hope I didn't ruin my brain for ever because it was sensitive:( I had reactions so far from vitamins but never this damage... I didn't even see this herb was inside this vitamin!
I'm in a setback from vitamin C. An hour after taking it I felt it coming on. I took it a month ago while feeling sick and had to reaction. I d9nt get it. 26 months off for me
Don’t be hard on yourself for setbacks. It’s normal. We’re all prone to over analyze ourselves. Listen to your body and have faith. Your brain may be short circuited but gut instinct is working. Right now that’s the brain that’s helping me survive. We are designed to survive. That’s why my brain needs to be ignored and my gut instinct is in charge
When I take vitamin D specialy or megnesium i feel crapy in like an hour or two then start feeling better but I cant take it on daily basis like regime but I feel like vitamin D helps alot in the long run. Can you suggest that I can get dependant on vitamin D and has to take it for the rest of my life just so that I can take the age of my symptoms. P.s I am 4 years off curently on 5th year and I feel like some of my symptoms has gotten better but i have developed other very bad ones. I dont understand angie. Thansk for the video thou❤
I’m not sure what you mean about being dependent on Vitamin D. When you feel better and heal more it’s possible your D levels will improve once you’re able to be outside in the sun more consistently. I couldn’t really take things consistently at that time off either.
Hi, so useful video. I am 7 months off benzos now, very less short windows for me, that too not clear. I am very sensitive to stress, smells and other things. Can fatty capric alcohol ( from coconut oil) in my hair shampoo exaggerate the symptoms? I felt increased brain fog, confusion after using it. Can this shampoo be the cause?
I help alcoholics because I am one. I am also tapering from Valium. At least it is Valium and I have been on it only about two and a half years. Switched from Klonopin because I did not want to be on that crap. Good luck.
Psychiatry has been tasked by our culture to provide a cadre of ritual specialists to serve as deviance enforcers via a degradation ritual in the name of medicalizing and labeling the occurrence and expression of human emotional suffering, which society dictates must fall between proscribed limits of acceptability.
Ive been on Seroquel anti psychotic for 8 years and had 7 relaps trying to get off this shit...also had 55 shocks to the brain...every time i get to a low dose i end up in another reality
You mentioned botox should be avoided. I get botox every 3 months for migraines and it helps. I'm in the process of tapering. Now I'm afraid to continue the botox as I continue my taper. What do you advise Angie?
That’s your own personal choice. Read the pamphlet for Botox and talk with your doctors and pharmacists about it. I don’t give medical advice. Some react to it some don’t. Some have to take things while others avoid things. It’s a personal decision you should make after knowing about the drug you need and speaking with people who are knowledgeable in that particular treatment.
@@AngiePeacockMSW Always good to see and hear you Angie.So gifted, strong and loving. I am tapering oh so slowly. Pretty terrified that time is running out given the drug cocktail I am on and my age. I sometimes find hope but lots of times just lots of crying and moaning. Glad to see you..and glad is a novel feeling so this is good. ❤
Hi, this is new to me. I’ve been on antidepressants for 40 years (all kinds). I’ve had insomnia for around 30 years and have taken meds for that. I also drink occasionally. I would like to get off of these drugs. Is there a beginning to your process?
Step 1: start reading about the medications you are taking. Talk with your doctor about what their knowledge level about that is. Perhaps attend one of my groups for more information.
I’m having cataract surgery and will be given 10 mg. of Valium. I’ve been off Valium for 18 months and I’m worried about a set back. Is there another sedation medication that I should use?
Question! Those rare setbacks you talked about at the end where people are thrown back into acute, how is the trajectory of those from there? Is the recovery from scratch then again or is it faster?
Does a setback like common cold and cough delays our healing process? Now at 13 months off, I have all the hellish symptoms of withdrawal, that have been increased severaly like breathlessness, tiredness,headache and extreme body pains. I am afraid that it will delay the already very slow process of healing.
I don't think the dosage will decide how horrendous your withdrawal will be i was given anti psych effexor and benzo on small dosages for 4 years and here I'm 7 months off with extreme symptoms... If your dosage is helping you even if its .1 mg and if you come out of it ... Be prepared for hell... I came off CT so I've got no idea no words to describe maybe one day I create a video but rn no way
@AngiePeacockMSW Thanks. .ya the polyp has fully blocked my nostril Breathing normal is impossible I tried to put off till fall but can't I thaught I would be over this but even through I am much better sadly not 100%
Hi Angie, my son complains about anger/rage that pops up. He hates the feeling and wants it to go away. Have you or your clients experienced the emotions of anger that comes from nowhere and from no particular reason? My son is slowly tapering off of Clozapine.
I’m 5 days out from a set back, I was about 85% healed and back to living life. I took macrobid for 4 days (8 pills) and was completely fine until i introduced an omega 3 supplement for the first time and crap hit the fan. I want to think it was the fish oil as I was doing fine on the antibiotics. Is it possible this could be short lived and not take years out? I’m freaking out and desperate for reassurance. I’ve read fish oil can be activating for some. Will I still heal from this? I’m sobbing all day long because I’m so scared I have to start over from the beginning. I’m praying it takes a few weeks to calm down but the uncertainty is killing me. I would also like to say, I had a uti and the culture came back for E. coli so I feel like this was maybe necessary. I regret taking it though
I really need help in seroquel mg recovery process. Im since 3 months off (cold Turkey) Im improving very very slowly gradually since 12 weeks. But im still absolutley clueless where i am in this process
I think neurotoxity is worse. My brain feels damaged. Can hardly walk. 14 years zoloft paradoxial reaction fast taper. Think the drug camouflages as long as you take it but when you go off completely the damage comes out.
After 3 years on ativan 1mg ,I stopped taking it in December ,here in March I get a feeling of anxiety , my throat is so tight feeling . is this withdrawal ? I figured it would be out of my system by now ?
I’m 8 years off after being on 40 different psych drugs in a 13 year period. Went through benzo withdrawal several times during those years and put on all kinds of things. So! That meant I was severely kindled and was cold turkey AGAIN off the last drug I took. So… it took me 6 1/2 years to feel even slightly normal again. I went through HELL but am better now than I’ve ever been in my whole life. It was worth fighting for. I am also a more severe case so please stay in your own experience and try not to compare to me.
I have a question about alcohol; Before this happened, I drank 3,4 times a week. After I got my adverse reaction I completely cut off caffeine, I struggled more to not drink. Not because I was addicted, but because I’m a wine lover and it gave me a sense of normalcy. I eventually cut that off too, unfortunately my job makes it very awkward not to drink at all, I have a family to support and I end up drinking once or twice a month. I don’t feel like it fundamentally affects my baseline, I track my symptoms to try and make sure. Do you think a small amount like that can fundamentally affect my ability to recover? I’m willing to make the changes if necessary but I do not want to unless it’s really needed. My life has enough restrictions as it is. Thank you; ❤
Thanks so much for the response, and for all your work :) Yes, it is a concern of mine because I know alcohol can be a cause for setbacks, or at least temporary slumps. My humble answer to my question is that I do not think that occasional small amounts (say, one or two glasses of wine a month) are a fundamental hindrance to recovery. I do believe, though, that this occasional consumption can cause temporary worsenings and can prolong the syndrome. I do not think I need to stop 100% to heal but I’m not helping myself. Why am I asking you this question though: 1) you have a lot of experience with plenty of people; 2) I have a pro-wine bias because of my emotional need for normalcy. My analysis above could be wrong. Please let me know your thoughts. ^^ Double thanks;
@@DiogoSantos-ix5sl from a non-dogmatic perspective alcohol is NOT good for your brain. It's just not. So do I think it could impact healing? Yes. *watch the Andrew Huberman YT on alcohol to see what I am talking about. But I am not interested in just healing a little. I want to heal all the way and live as healthy as I possibly can. So, I am more of a purist. I have seen the harm relatively minor things can cause so I am biased in that way. I work with people who have the most severest injuries. They can't even entertain the idea of alcohol. It's just that bad. I haven't drank anything myself since 2006 except for a glass of wine in 2010.
@@AngiePeacockMSWThank you so much for your answer; I will definitely watch that. Healing all the way and going all the way huh; it makes sense. I officially quit then, at least for the next 10 years. Thank you ❤
Angie, what about people who already had severe mental illnesses prior to medication use that make their withdrawal experience much worse but want to try new treatments in hope of relief, would that be too dangerous? I don’t think i can handle both for a long time…
I don't think it's either / or. It can be both / and. Harm Reduction might be a better option WHILE seeking other treatment options that are less harmful. SLOW taper to a lower dose while building a new understanding of your distress and what brought you to meds in the first place. Consider this: willhall.net/comingoffmeds/ P.S. There are lots of people with SMI diagnoses that come off or come lower and are living wonderful lives! (I am one of them)
Is propranolol bad for you? It was prescribed when I got akathisia. Would I have to taper off if I wanted to stop taking it. I only recently got diagnosed. Did you have akathisia and how long did you have it before you recovered? I got it from Risperdal when she figured out I had akathisia she put me on lamotrigine. I am tapering off that now.
@AngiePeacockMSW thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions I really appreciate it. I am really scared. I'm 63 years old I don't know if I have the strength
I’m 41 months off Klonopin after 23 years on. I had a setback 8 months ago from an infection that led to an allergic reaction to amoxicillin and then a traumatic tooth extraction bc I couldn’t take anything to help. It was like I started all over with withdrawal. 8 months from this and I am now dealing with chronic dizziness, weakness, ringing in my ear, and extreme light sensitivity. I’m starting homecare again and my life is at a standstill. I will get back to helping this cause when I’m able, but this sucks!
It’s awful when you are leading your life again after being through what is very difficult then you drink something and wow it affects your histamine levels so badly that you feel like you are back taking your benzo again and it’s not helping
Prayers for you! 🙏
5 years off and 99.9% back to normal, kratom gave me a massive setback right back into severe akathisia and then back onto a benzo. The akathisia did go away but now I'm stuck tapering a benzo again. This is what I call an extreme setback.
Thanks for katrom info
Oh man. Im 2.5 years off. I took freaking Ashwaghanda for anxiety. It SENT me into the worst wave of my life. I’ve taken so many supplements during this process, including psilocybin tiny doses, I reacted well to everything. Until the f**** Ashwaghanda. It’s horrific. I hope you feel better now ?? 🙏🏻
Same
I’m 8 months off and I hurt like hell every thing hurts
This was a Godsend this morning. I'm at the end of a 19 month taper off Ativan. (40 year dependence) and I'm really going through it. The sensory for me is off the charts right now. I feel like an old pro at this now (coping with the WD symptoms 24/7) at almost 2 years. Your videos are very helpful and comforting, Thank you.
Boy I bet you are. Many hugs and prayers
@ravenfeather1467I have been on it for 9 months, taken at bedtime only , it stopped working and developed withdrawals already, but don't want to increase due to side effects, it shouldn't even been prescribed for me . Could you share your taper method, do you have withdrawals, how many doses a day , l don't know how to handle this situation, l m loosing weight, look like anorexic 😢.
@@ellaMel4632 Hi there. I'm happy that you're stopping these now before you are on them for decades. As far as my taper method, I just went by what my psychiatrist told me to do. Was on 3 mg a day. I did a cut of 1/2 milligram every 2-4 months. I am now down to 1/4 of an .05 milligram or less and almost done. I suggest doing a slow taper. Have had W/D all through my taper. There are some websites for support. Benzo buddies, etc. that you may want to check out. Good luck to you.
What do you have 24/7 ?
Can you describe it please to help others ?
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I god don’t worry about that trust me you will gain it all back and more!!
I was 9 stone 7 after my ct off of low use and dose of Valium and zolpidem I gained 2 stone
Jordan Peterson had to go to Eastern Europe to get off scripts since the Western Doctors kept trying to add more drugs. Him and his daughter are on strict diets now. Our food and lifestyle are killing us. Anyone else notice the similarities between vaxx injuries, food sensitivities and withdrawals? With so many on scripts, it looks like a clean diet is the way to go.
I didn’t get the vax but I sure wish that when I was healing from a ct off of Valium that I had then I would of learnt early on about set backs while I was still in that mind set
Thank you Angie. And thank you for validating that sometimes when we are sick or life traumas or stress happens, it is out of our control. You are an angel ❤
Great video! So helpful! As setbacks can be so despairing 😩 but there’s still the capability to heal 🙌🏼
Angie talks about set backs I wish that she had been mentioned to me when I was first going through this they don’t talk about set backs on the main group on the one group I was a member of only telling you to avoid coffee and supplements and some herbs nobody talked about akasthia hell and how you could get that from discontinuing an anti depressant and yet again it’s mentioned in the Ashton manual that some people may take one to deal with the depression from benzo withdrawals !
People that think they know more or better than you do can cause more harm than they realize.
I'm 38, been on meds since 2010 that I'm 11 days coming off. I just came across your channel today.
Have you tapered?
Dude, I was so freaked out in withdrawal the first six months after cold turkey I went to the dentist and had all of my metal fillings removed. I think I had eight or nine of them and then I had four root canals done. I did the carpet like everybody suggested but that shit made my face swell up and it really bad and then I would have anxiety for a few days so I just got to where I didn’t take anything I did do OK one time when he mix the norepinephrine or whatever it is, it was all the same except I didn’t have as bad anxiety whenever I didn’t have any general anesthesia to numb anything. I had to go back to the dentist like eight times last year and the year before he probably more than that it was a lot of times. Yep definitely don’t rush, antibiotics for UTI is there is natural ship for that. I didn’t take any of the antibiotics that my dentist wanted me to take for my teeth, my own stuff that does the same purpose I agree you definitely got to be your own doctor and have your own little apothecary. My setbacks have been Covid. Dealing with someone that is fucking evil and car crash or I got a concussion. I should’ve died from that in November but hey, I’m still alive I guess and a few supplements definitely amino acids. Thanks for the video Angie it’s always beautiful to see your beautiful, shiny face with smiles.
set backs are a topic that are not spoken about enough especially in the benzo community i have a friend who tapered for 3 years then took 2.5 years to full heal....... he was 100 percent healed for about 1 years or so...... he went to help someone he became close to and on his way there that person commuted suicide...... it caused him to start having panic attacks again and boom he was thrown right back into the depths of hell of benzo withdrawal aka paws hes been there for 5 and a half years now with no sight in end 😔😔
Being in a setback for 5 1/2 years sounds terrible but usually something else is going on at that point- are they back on meds? I’ve never heard of anyone being in “acute” level when 8 years off everything.
So sorry
Sounds like me I had major stress from close partner and then I drank and ate high histamine fermented products and I started having problems sleeping, intrusive thoughts and sensitivity to sound and had dp/dr yet 4 months before I felt 20:01 great. When I suffered from the set back I felt like I had been on the Valium for a few months and it wasn’t working omg I had my house up for sale too and I had to take it off the market.
I then felt suicidal never felt that when on Valium or ct off of it. Instead of asking for advice on the groups I couldn’t ask Angie or Chris or Dan as nobody had talked about them to me I panicked as my sleep had been great again and not sleeping and the anxiety and being depressed after 2 years of living again I went to my doctor forgetting time was the only healer and got given mirtazapine the worst thing i wish I had just stayed away from doctors, friend and chemist
I now have akasthia!
8 months and no Windows!
Will I heal from this I’m very very scared.
Excellent video again. Full of sensible, experienced insight. 17 months off antidepressants after over 31 years,and always feel less lonely and that there's someone out there that gets it even though I'm in protracted withdrawal from antidepressants rather than Benzodiazapines. Thanks.
What are your symtoms?
@@mitch5222 It's a combination of extreme emotional and physical symptoms that fluctuates and alters. Emotional things like stressed, anxious,rage,anger,crying, memory loss,brain fog etc and then physically tired, muscle and joints ache,tense,cramp all over the body, headaches physical symptoms of anxiety & stress,loss of taste,smell,hearing,sinus problems,severe Tinnitus. Just a complete wreck like you've done an extreme weight training session, then got the flu, then heard your dog has been run over by a car and your wife has left you for another man.
A doctor would say you need antidepressants. I say I wished I'd told them to shove em where the sun don't shine.
@@celticwarrior5646 same. Are u afraid of this symtpoms? I am shaking everyday.
How many ads did u take?
@@mitch5222 over the 31 years I took 8 different ones in total. That ranges from Venlafaxine which I took for 1 week, Escitalopram and Amiltryptyline which I took for 3 months each,then Sertraline, Paroxetine,Prozac, Citalopram and Fluvoxamine which I took for years, frequently trying to stop and then reinstating. That's without all the supplements I took with them. All because I couldn't get off them from dependency and that convinced me I had a chemical imbalance. Scandalous.
Yes! I have lost my cat, brother, and 2 weeks ago my father. Stress and grief will definitely be a set back.
I am so sorry.
@@incognito595 it’s been hard. Thank you!
Yes and diet is important yet hardly anyone on the Benzo groups talks about histamine etc and how it’s something you will have to watch for a good 10 years not 6 to 18 months!
Even Ashton manual says at 2 years off you can have a glass of wine yeah and expect to be back in hell again
@@sarahpearsall2248 I’m now at 11 months off and feeling great! Working with a functional medicine doctor to heal my gut. You’re absolutely right! No one talks about the importance of histamines and diet and all that. I strongly suggest having a GI-Map test done to see what needs to be fixed after the harm these meds cause.
@@incognito595 oh I’m good now at 11 months off! Fixing my gut from the harm the benzo caused is making the biggest impact in my healing!
Hey Angie, you mention you usually get the more severe cases and mention ppl on stuff for yrs and polydrugged etc... i was on clonazepam only 3 weeks and am now 29 months out and still recovering, i had a severe acute that lasted about 4 months and a real heallish first 6 months and really wavy first 1,5 year still get real rough days and nights and with symptoms but bigger stretches of being well, but still so wavt. I got tolerance withdrawal on day THREE, except i didnt know then... cold turkeyd after 19,5 days, i was very sick... the classic severe withdrawal story with over 35 symptoms... and completely off the world, i never took any other "meds" just that sensitive... just wanted to share short termers can have real severe reactions too, i dont even know how people can take K for years, i neary died after 19,5 days of 0,5 mg...
I was on Ativan for 10 months and stopped Ct. the first month was pure hell. Before my cycle I go back to like withdrawals insomnia brain zaps internal tremors lost of appetite can’t eat in bed for days cry all the time. Just horrific. How are you now? I’m 3 months out from Ct.
Thank you for talking about the stress of your dog’s death. Mine just died a month ago and I am devastated. Ihaven’t had many symptoms during my withdrawal so far but I am experiencing some now. I didn’t think the loss of my precious one could bring on symptoms. I am sorry for your loss as well
I'm so sorry! Your CNS will bounce back.
@@AngiePeacockMSW
How long after akasthia from a too fast withdrawal until you can expect to see some healing and diminished 24/7 terror?
Thanks is the only word that comes to my mind.
I watched about two years ago Angie during the midst of my withdrawal and your sincere monologues lifted me up! Thanks
Are you better?
I also healed from severe withdrawal. I can barely stay in the groups because I am so TIRED of people who are still sick, arguing with me about taking supplements and vitamins. vitamins, and supplements will NOT even take the edge off if you have serious withdrawal and if it IS taking the edge off it means that it is doing something that you dont want it to. it is NOT worth taking supplements and vitamins unless you have a severe and tested deficiency and even then your nervous system is not going to give you a break if you take that vitamin to fix the deficiency. if that vitamin his the nervous system wrong it will cause a set back full stop. It is a arm reduction approach to NOT take vitamins and supplements unless you have some serious condition that requires it. But i have no patience for people who take multivitamins to "find a cure", because I have just been dealing with these conversations for so many years now. Great video, I wish people would listen.
Set backs from herbs and other pharma drugs I believe are more damaging than taking supplements
Thank you for sharing about loosing your dog and the symptoms that incresed. We just lost our very very loved dog very fast and traumatic way for me and I have now new symptoms I never had before during my tapering. It's good to hear similar experiences. It's beennow really hard, but crying the loss helps also.
Please cry as much as you can. It helped me. It was a hard time. My heart goes out to you.
@@AngiePeacockMSW Thank you ♥️
In the beginning coffee would send me into a severe manic state. But now 7 years in protracted withdrawal I can drink coffee with no problem. I guess one mans blessing, can be another mans curse as far as suppliments goes. Have a great day angie and keep doing what you do. All the best.
11:54 omg! I had something similar when I connected via zoom with other people, it's like my nervous system couldn't handle it and I got terrified even before I actually entered the call. Hapens the same with phone calls, I don't answer anymore unless it's a relative or a friend. It gives me like an allergic reaction of anxiety. Really weird
@@francovers22 it happens alot. People,just don't talk about it
@@cheryllryan8440 I know people can feel anxiety from an unexpected call. But now sometimes I can't even breath and feel overwhelmed. This didn't use to happen to me before. And most of the time I have my emotions in check.
Hey Angie, What a wonderful person you are! I think that when I watch you, every time!. You don't just "phone it in!" Angie, how do you deal with the fact that you, and all of us, have lost so many years of our very precious lives to this Horror? Particularly since "They" knew we never would have taken "their" drugs if we knew what would happen to us? That is a certainty. Without doubt. That is what I will Never recover from. THEIR DECEPTION. THIS IS, OF COURSE, WHY THEY NEVER PROVIDED INFORMED CONSENT! I will never recover from that. The suffering physically and mentally from the brain damage is one thing, but is survivable! It's the DECEPTION, subterfuge and trickery that I will never recover from! The Suffering they have caused so many millions of unknowing, vulnerable, patients! This always amazes me that people don't discuss this issue. For me, this is my biggest trauma, by far. It would be entirely different IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO US!
This is a topic that comes up with my coaching with people almost every single day. I will make. I will make a video about this topic!
Have you ever thought about channeling your anger into advocacy ? It might help with feelings of helplessness and anger towards the injustices and wrongdoings. Every little bit makes a difference and can change the world.
Glorified drug dealers.
The doctors do not know of these effects or if they do, it is only in the rare instance that they see a patient for more than 1 or 2 visits. All you are being treated with are various protocols according to some notion of how things are “supposed” to be done. There are very few docs out there who know how to really diagnose and treat what is really wrong
@@Geoplanetjane I'm pretty sure alot of phyciatrist know what benzos do . They just cover it up because they get big kickbacks from them. There not even fit to be called doctors. Anybody can write a prescription. That's all phyciatrist are is prescription writers. Drug dealers. They don't even know what the drugs they sell really do to people. But in alot of cases they do. I'm not even a phyciatrist an I know what benzos do. How could they not? Expesially by now . They've been out for a long time.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm 5 months postpartum currently dealing with a setback. Doc wants me to take ssri but i refuse. 16 months off CT from klonopin. Again... Thank you for sharing
How are you?
Best video that I have seen yet on Benzo withdrawals and protecting your healing. From Jenny K.
Thank you Angie. You clarified setbacks really well andin way that I had not thought of before. Medical practitioners really freak me out. Thank you for explaining that it's sometimes necessary to seek their services.
Hope your shoulder heals soon for you.😊
Thank you for the difference you are making in the lives of so many. 😊🙏🥰
I sustained a rotary cuff injury while healing from Valium ct and low dose and use of zolpidem I went to the hospital for an x Ray but I couldn’t take the pain relief due to being asthmatic but the pain was welcome after feeling a bit numb and I was healed within 6 weeks and able to raise my arm on its own again but compared to my set back 2 years later and even child birth this akasthia I got from too fast a withdrawal from mirtazapine is torture and all because nobody in any of the support groups talked about things that can cause set backs years after you think your brain is healed
Looking Good, Angie! When people ask me my name, I give it to them, and always say "That's the person I used to be." That is the best way I can describe this Horror. Angie, can you talk about Caffeine, and how other patients respond to it? Think of you, often, Angie. Hope you are well. Thank you.
I would be interested in a talk about coffee and caffeine too!
Thank you. I needed to hear this. I'm on the struggle bus again after what feels like a serious setback.
Hi Angie, thank you for your guidance and reassurance in this video. I am on antibiotics right now after delaying going to the GP which I was dreading to take as I am 10 months off sleep meds and no one understands just how sensitive our CNS has become. I've had to stop some other medication as I was finding them to flare my withdrawal symptoms. I've been dealing with scary neuro protracted withdrawal symptoms and now I am just coping 1 pill at a time and looking at your videos to feel better. There's been ups and downs but I try to distract myself as best as I can to get to that last pill.
Sometimes we can't avoid meds to treat infections as things could get much worse.
Your wisdom gives us the support we need when we are terrified of the unknown.👋☺️
From London.
I cant understand how i am supposed to keep tapering when i am so ill. I can barely care for myself. I now have histamine intolerance or worse, mcas, can hardly eat anything without having neurogical symptoms and sleep is impossible without taking phenergan, and some nights that doesnt even work. My anxiety is like 100 x what it ever was and functioning is not possible. I dont even want to see anyone, even those closest to me. My husband keeps me alive. This taper is beyond cruel. I am at 6 mg diaz I see myself needing full time care to get off. Horrendous experience that i was in no way prepared for.
I'm so sorry. ❤
Thankfully, my Doctor is working with me. The plan is I will get down from .75 mg to .5 mg and I will try diazepam for three weeks and if my body accepts it I will go to compound pharmacy. Thank you very much for sharing your wisdom. I am one of those people who would probably look for something to calm me. I stopped drinking alcohol three 1/2 months ago.
I agree that it’s the same injury. I have symptoms similar to wd but my issues started with floxing and then they were exacerbated by wd but I was healing. Not perfect but I saw a lot of improvement, some issues healed. However, I got waaaay worse after I had a reaction to a hormonal med, got pregnant, then had to take an antibiotic, then I had more meds in my c-section. It all made me so sick. New symptoms, electricity gone haywire. It’s almost been 10 months since the c-section and I am in the worst spot I have been constantly getting worse. I wonder if it will ever level out and start improving… 😢
😢
I had a bad setback after being pregnant.
Thanks angie! Seeing you yesterday was very helpful. Im feeling more calm today. ❤ Wishing you a relaxing week. Xo Linde.
Amazing video! Thank you! So much insight, experiences, hope and and ways forward in this 20 min and it wasn't a challenge to follow at all.
I have the really bad sensitivities too. Is good to hear that they eventually go away. Thank you for sharing this.
Hypersensitivities to all of my senses including lights, smells, sounds, clothing/bedding textures, temperatures, and especially anxiety.
Is that what you mean by sensitivities? What helps?
Thank you 🙏♥️ you just say all the right things....it relates so much to my "what if" thoughts right now..... Thank you so much 🙏♥️
By the way you personally got me through a lot. We spoke a lot, your videos were some of the first I encountered. im talking like 7 years ago.
I don’t recognize you by your name here but I’m glad I helped back then but more than anything I’m glad you’re feeling better.
Thanks Angie! I can totally relate to you!! You are doing amazing work!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS V.VALUABLE TALK ....Much needed 🙏🙏🙏
You ARE SO AWESOME , HELPFUL AND HOPEFUL, ALWAYS! Keep up the good work, you keep us all going :)
Thanks Angie 🙏🙏🙏
Angie you are a badass!!!!! I love everything about you!!! I am tapering 200mg of gabapentiin, then i have ambien and 3 mgs of klonopin to taper. I'm coming off gabap first because i was only on it for a few months. I'm doing liquid taper. My question is do i taper off ambien next or do i taper off 1mg of klonopin and use the ambien to sleep while i water taper off the klonopin? Should i just taper off ambien then wait a month then start the 3mg K taper I guess i am wondering if the ambien will interfere with my braining healing as i slowly taper the K over 3 years of water taper.....I just wanted your opinion. I do have severe insomnia. I just watched the medicating normal documentary and what you went through and the others went through is just mind-boggling! You did a great thing doing the documentary! You are kicking ass as a coach and I know you will help so many people! *HUGS*
Thank you, Angie! :)
Like always really grateful for you ❤
I have to have a tooth pulled today. Not looking forward to taking any kind of pain medicine but it will probably be necessary for 2 or 3 days.
I never knew how hard it was gonna be coming off these psych meds. Holy shiiiiiiit. Cannot believe this happens to people. I was ripped off mine. Sup hell. Sucks here huh.
Hell is an understatement!
Didnt know either. Nigtmare. Beyond hard. Holy shiiit is the word. Totally ripped off body, head, mind.
Thank you. It makes so much sense. You give me courage to keep fighting.
I've noted flare ups when I get sick or when on my period. Flare ups to the point where i have to take time off work because i can't stop pacing. But then it stops quickly. especially as more time goes by since I jumped, the symptom flare ups aren't as severe, but what it more noticeable for me is the symptoms rapid cycle. opposed to staying for for a couple weeks and then slowly going away.
Excellent progress!!
Ur so freakin awesome Angie. And the lip injection comment was so funny idk why 🤣
No botox for me!
Thank you! You just answered a bunch of questions l had! The antibiotics, l finally understood… thank you again
Thank you Angie. Appreciate you ❤
This is great Ang. I'm 4.5 months off now and past few days, wake feeling like I'm being hunted !! It's not anxiety, I feel scared, almost like a child????
Hey I had the same experience. I thought the crows were going to eat me. It seemed very real at the time but it's just the fear. Have a look at Anges post on fear. It's ok it will pass. It's the mind going through readjustment.
@@Mrnomadnworb so weird? I've been healing well, I'm sleeping really well now but the past few weeks sx have been so bad !!! I'm hoping this is the storm before the calm !! Lots of healing in this wave I'm hoping !! Past few days, strange creepy blunted emotions for the first time since my CT detox !!
It's a long old road to recovery. I found swimming really good. Mostly at the beach. Eating healthy, Listening to nice music that didn't freak me out too much and finding places like this helped a lot when things got really intense. Time is a major factor and keeping yourself safe so you make it out through the otherside because there is hope 100% Peace n Love
@@lisasmith814
Same. Blunted. Fear. Crying. Damaged brain fast taper. Severe WD.
Thanks, Angie! I learn so much from you - it's very validating to hear you share so many of the same thoughts I have about this process. You rock 🙌❤️
Somatic Experiencing can take the built up emotional trauma from the body which helps in all aspects of healing.
Create a document in case of hospitalization that sets limits on what they can do. Our medical services are incentivized to prescribe/provide certain drugs/protocols.
Thank you very much, I really appreciate your very positive and practical outlook. I trust you and that means a lot.
And theres a HUGE difference between smoking street Marijuana and taking MJ oil prescribed. It saves me at the moment (I'm in Australia and prescribed)
Your the best! Which magnesium is best??..so much contradicting info on it.
Most are doing mag glyconate but look for one without magnesium staerate or silicon dioxide if possible.
Sugar makes my head ringing so much loader, I took phenegran and oh my gosh woke up and terrified feelings. Kneck pain from a car accident and hydrocodone helps.
Did you have histamine intolerance at all in withdrawal? And if so, did it go away naturally with time ?
Thank you
This is a great informative video!
Hi Angie. I’m curious if you know how Hormone replacement interacts with drug withdrawal. I’m trying to taper an antipsychotic while I’m being treated for a thyroid disorder and menopause. So I’m on thyroid hormone and estrogen and progesterone.. I’m not sure I can stop either one without serious health consequences.
Any thoughts?
At times I can drink coffee and I feel great. Other times I think it's really messing with me. 🤔
Yes! Me, too. I think it is dependent on the amount of coffee? I'm trying to figure that out, myself!
@@incognito595 usually 1 cup is ok. 2 cups and I'm wrecked! But other times 1 cup is too much...???
Coffee is potent, be careful ❤
Same here.❤
Yes same here for me. I typically just drink through the anxiety it gives me sometimes though. Caffeine anxiety is nothing like withdrawal anxiety to me so I just try to ignore it and keep drinking. I am a bad example!
God work Angie 💜
Subscribed on your recommendation of this specific video. Thanks for your reply.
Good video angie. Thanks for the info. I didnt know about the anti nausea medication and also the ppis are bad. I didnt find that out until 3 and a half years off. Thanks to you
I remember your dog passing ❤ 😢
It was terrible! 😢
I had a severe protracted withdraw syndrome more than 70 symptoms after 7 years of long term use of lexapro that had severe side effects and 4 attempts quit but I still was healing slowly. Cant describe what I experienced for heal 30% at 2 years and still my brain was changing.
I took 50mg of panax ginseng and 7 months since then, i got everything back! I developed even new symptoms!
Is the first time I don't heal..I really hope I didn't ruin my brain for ever because it was sensitive:( I had reactions so far from vitamins but never this damage...
I didn't even see this herb was inside this vitamin!
I'm in a setback from vitamin C. An hour after taking it I felt it coming on. I took it a month ago while feeling sick and had to reaction. I d9nt get it. 26 months off for me
Sometimes it’s not the substance- it’s the state of your CNS on any particular day.
Dies that mean that my CNS I'd still to sensitive for vitamin c?
I have the same experience with food. Some days I can tolerate certain foods and other days I'll have a reaction to the same food
How are you feeling? I’m 27 months off and had a setback from omega 3. Scary stuff
@@user-ww5ui4fd9n I'm feeling so much better. A week ago my symptoms dramatically decreased. I forgot I could feel this good. How about you
What if you were ct’ed and you haven’t had a window. 19 months of total loss of self and understanding.
watch the next video that comes out Wednesday.
Having horrific effects from antibiotic needed for tooth infection 😫 whilst tapering antidepressant. So frightening.
It happens but sometimes we just don’t have a choice and have to take them!
Don’t be hard on yourself for setbacks. It’s normal. We’re all prone to over analyze ourselves. Listen to your body and have faith. Your brain may be short circuited but gut instinct is working. Right now that’s the brain that’s helping me survive. We are designed to survive. That’s why my brain needs to be ignored and my gut instinct is in charge
Our bodies hypersensitivity is NOT normal.
I have glaucoma an cant see nothing threw these withdrawals.
When I take vitamin D specialy or megnesium i feel crapy in like an hour or two then start feeling better but I cant take it on daily basis like regime but I feel like vitamin D helps alot in the long run. Can you suggest that I can get dependant on vitamin D and has to take it for the rest of my life just so that I can take the age of my symptoms.
P.s I am 4 years off curently on 5th year and I feel like some of my symptoms has gotten better but i have developed other very bad ones. I dont understand angie.
Thansk for the video thou❤
I’m not sure what you mean about being dependent on Vitamin D. When you feel better and heal more it’s possible your D levels will improve once you’re able to be outside in the sun more consistently. I couldn’t really take things consistently at that time off either.
@@AngiePeacockMSW may we all heal soon and happy.
Love and support angie❤
Hi, so useful video.
I am 7 months off benzos now, very less short windows for me, that too not clear.
I am very sensitive to stress, smells and other things.
Can fatty capric alcohol ( from coconut oil) in my hair shampoo exaggerate the symptoms? I felt increased brain fog, confusion after using it. Can this shampoo be the cause?
I help alcoholics because I am one. I am also tapering from Valium. At least it is Valium and I have been on it only about two and a half years. Switched from Klonopin because I did not want to be on that crap. Good luck.
Psychiatry has been tasked by our culture to provide a cadre of ritual specialists to serve as deviance enforcers via a degradation ritual in the name of medicalizing and labeling the occurrence and expression of human emotional suffering, which society dictates must fall between proscribed limits of acceptability.
Thanks
Ive been on Seroquel anti psychotic for 8 years and had 7 relaps trying to get off this shit...also had 55 shocks to the brain...every time i get to a low dose i end up in another reality
You mentioned botox should be avoided. I get botox every 3 months for migraines and it helps. I'm in the process of tapering. Now I'm afraid to continue the botox as I continue my taper. What do you advise Angie?
That’s your own personal choice. Read the pamphlet for Botox and talk with your doctors and pharmacists about it. I don’t give medical advice. Some react to it some don’t. Some have to take things while others avoid things. It’s a personal decision you should make after knowing about the drug you need and speaking with people who are knowledgeable in that particular treatment.
@@AngiePeacockMSW Always good to see and hear you Angie.So gifted, strong and loving.
I am tapering oh so slowly. Pretty terrified that time is running out given the drug cocktail I am on and my age. I sometimes find hope but lots of times just lots of crying and moaning. Glad to see you..and glad is a novel feeling so this is good. ❤
Hi, this is new to me. I’ve been on antidepressants for 40 years (all kinds). I’ve had insomnia for around 30 years and have taken meds for that. I also drink occasionally. I would like to get off of these drugs. Is there a beginning to your process?
Step 1: start reading about the medications you are taking. Talk with your doctor about what their knowledge level about that is. Perhaps attend one of my groups for more information.
I’m having cataract surgery and will be given 10 mg. of Valium. I’ve been off Valium for 18 months and I’m worried about a set back. Is there another sedation medication that I should use?
Question! Those rare setbacks you talked about at the end where people are thrown back into acute, how is the trajectory of those from there? Is the recovery from scratch then again or is it faster?
Everyone is different. Some have setbacks for a few days, some a few weeks, some a few months or longer. Everyone is different, truly.
@@AngiePeacockMSW okey. So you actually mean that some people after years go back to scratch after for example one dose or something of antiemetics?
@@yetinssonl1885 that is correct. I was 5years off and took a few doses of pepcid. it destroyed my life. im at 7years now.
Does a setback like common cold and cough delays our healing process? Now at 13 months off, I have all the hellish symptoms of withdrawal, that have been increased severaly like breathlessness, tiredness,headache and extreme body pains. I am afraid that it will delay the already very slow process of healing.
A cough/cold is not a setback. Sometimes it can flare symptoms a bit but they will calm down again.
I don't think the dosage will decide how horrendous your withdrawal will be i was given anti psych effexor and benzo on small dosages for 4 years and here I'm 7 months off with extreme symptoms... If your dosage is helping you even if its .1 mg and if you come out of it ... Be prepared for hell... I came off CT so I've got no idea no words to describe maybe one day I create a video but rn no way
Yes and one small dose can cause this injury. I’ve seen it
Angie i need surgery cant breath thus the nose polyp has to cut out . End pf April this was a huge help
We can talk about it when I see you next!
@AngiePeacockMSW Thanks. .ya the polyp has fully blocked my nostril Breathing normal is impossible I tried to put off till fall but can't I thaught I would be over this but even through I am much better sadly not 100%
Hi Angie, my son complains about anger/rage that pops up. He hates the feeling and wants it to go away. Have you or your clients experienced the emotions of anger that comes from nowhere and from no particular reason? My son is slowly tapering off of Clozapine.
Yes! Watch the video 2 before this one about “neuro emotion.” I talk a lot about the anger!
@@AngiePeacockMSW thank you, Angie
I had it really bad.. I’m 5 years off and it’s improved massively. Still pops up at times but it’s infrequent now.
I’m 5 days out from a set back, I was about 85% healed and back to living life. I took macrobid for 4 days (8 pills) and was completely fine until i introduced an omega 3 supplement for the first time and crap hit the fan. I want to think it was the fish oil as I was doing fine on the antibiotics. Is it possible this could be short lived and not take years out? I’m freaking out and desperate for reassurance. I’ve read fish oil can be activating for some. Will I still heal from this? I’m sobbing all day long because I’m so scared I have to start over from the beginning. I’m praying it takes a few weeks to calm down but the uncertainty is killing me. I would also like to say, I had a uti and the culture came back for E. coli so I feel like this was maybe necessary. I regret taking it though
I’m in a protrcted it’s been confirmed by medical staff and it’s not fun
What is the consequence of other drugs (like antibiotics) when you're an antidepressant survivor or tappering?
Did you have a hard time with your cycle? I haven't heard you say anything about hormone fluctuations.
Yes the week before my period I got worsening symptoms - especially SI. It was too scary to talk about while I was going through it.
I really need help in seroquel mg recovery process. Im since 3 months off (cold Turkey)
Im improving very very slowly gradually since 12 weeks. But im still absolutley clueless where i am in this process
Angie..how do we know of it's protracted withdrawal or Neurotoxicity?
I believe it’s one and the same. Semantics. The healing process is still the same regardless of what you call it.
I think neurotoxity is worse. My brain feels damaged. Can hardly walk. 14 years zoloft paradoxial reaction fast taper. Think the drug camouflages as long as you take it but when you go off completely the damage comes out.
v good Angie ty
After 3 years on ativan 1mg ,I stopped taking it in December ,here in March I get a feeling of anxiety , my throat is so tight feeling . is this withdrawal ? I figured it would be out of my system by now ?
How many years have you been free from WD and how long did it take to feel good ?
I’m 8 years off after being on 40 different psych drugs in a 13 year period. Went through benzo withdrawal several times during those years and put on all kinds of things. So! That meant I was severely kindled and was cold turkey AGAIN off the last drug I took. So… it took me 6 1/2 years to feel even slightly normal again. I went through HELL but am better now than I’ve ever been in my whole life. It was worth fighting for. I am also a more severe case so please stay in your own experience and try not to compare to me.
Did you get tattoos after benzo cessation? Did it trigger anything?
I just got two large ones at 8 years off. I was completely fine. I waited this whole time.
I have a question about alcohol;
Before this happened, I drank 3,4 times a week. After I got my adverse reaction I completely cut off caffeine, I struggled more to not drink.
Not because I was addicted, but because I’m a wine lover and it gave me a sense of normalcy.
I eventually cut that off too, unfortunately my job makes it very awkward not to drink at all, I have a family to support and I end up drinking once or twice a month.
I don’t feel like it fundamentally affects my baseline, I track my symptoms to try and make sure.
Do you think a small amount like that can fundamentally affect my ability to recover?
I’m willing to make the changes if necessary but I do not want to unless it’s really needed.
My life has enough restrictions as it is.
Thank you; ❤
I think that it must be a concern of yours to write this question to me so I would ask you first what do you think is the answer to your own question?
Thanks so much for the response, and for all your work :)
Yes, it is a concern of mine because I know alcohol can be a cause for setbacks, or at least temporary slumps.
My humble answer to my question is that I do not think that occasional small amounts (say, one or two glasses of wine a month) are a fundamental hindrance to recovery.
I do believe, though, that this occasional consumption can cause temporary worsenings and can prolong the syndrome.
I do not think I need to stop 100% to heal but I’m not helping myself.
Why am I asking you this question though:
1) you have a lot of experience with plenty of people;
2) I have a pro-wine bias because of my emotional need for normalcy.
My analysis above could be wrong. Please let me know your thoughts. ^^
Double thanks;
@@DiogoSantos-ix5sl from a non-dogmatic perspective alcohol is NOT good for your brain. It's just not. So do I think it could impact healing? Yes. *watch the Andrew Huberman YT on alcohol to see what I am talking about.
But I am not interested in just healing a little. I want to heal all the way and live as healthy as I possibly can. So, I am more of a purist. I have seen the harm relatively minor things can cause so I am biased in that way. I work with people who have the most severest injuries. They can't even entertain the idea of alcohol. It's just that bad. I haven't drank anything myself since 2006 except for a glass of wine in 2010.
@@AngiePeacockMSWThank you so much for your answer; I will definitely watch that.
Healing all the way and going all the way huh; it makes sense.
I officially quit then, at least for the next 10 years.
Thank you ❤
Angie, what about people who already had severe mental illnesses prior to medication use that make their withdrawal experience much worse but want to try new treatments in hope of relief, would that be too dangerous? I don’t think i can handle both for a long time…
I don't think it's either / or. It can be both / and. Harm Reduction might be a better option WHILE seeking other treatment options that are less harmful. SLOW taper to a lower dose while building a new understanding of your distress and what brought you to meds in the first place. Consider this: willhall.net/comingoffmeds/
P.S. There are lots of people with SMI diagnoses that come off or come lower and are living wonderful lives! (I am one of them)
Angie what about coffee, I suffer from chronic insomnia+ I'm addicted!!
Is propranolol bad for you? It was prescribed when I got akathisia. Would I have to taper off if I wanted to stop taking it. I only recently got diagnosed. Did you have akathisia and how long did you have it before you recovered?
I got it from Risperdal when she figured out I had akathisia she put me on lamotrigine. I am tapering off that now.
I was given propranolol for Akathisia too. Yes I had to taper it. But I didn’t notice any withdrawal from it but I was really bad anyway.
@@AngiePeacockMSW thank you, when you stop the need to pace and move around do you still have the weird feelings in your legs
@@sylviadominguez8327 it depends on the person. Usually not, they just get really tired, terror or anxiety still. Then that calms down eventually too.
@AngiePeacockMSW thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions I really appreciate it. I am really scared. I'm 63 years old I don't know if I have the strength