THE BEST Jobsite Table Saw - Bosch, Dewalt, Makita, SawStop, SkilSaw. How to choose the one for you.
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- www.coptool.com... - We took the top 5 most popular Professional Jobsite Tables Out Today (Bosch, Dewalt, Makita, SawStop, SkilSaw) and compared them in several key categories. Check out the results and let us know what you think!
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I looked at the Bosch, Dewalt and the Makita at Three different stores so I could make a good average assessment of the three makes and all 3 Dewalts had the most stable and accurate fence. Plus having picked up each demo I thought the Dewalt was the easiest to lift and load.
Thank you
I really like my Dewalt. The rack and pinion system is awesome and the saw does everything I need it to do. I’m far from a Dewalt fan boy. I don’t buy their cordless tools. I have too many dead drills to waste any more money on those. When I was shopping for a job site saw though, I saw that rack and pinion system and immediately knew it was the saw for me. It is so easy to dial the fence in precisely where I want it and there is no need for a measuring tape when using that saw. I completely disregard the ratings on all of the safety features. That junk comes off my saws before I ever plug it in for the first time. Trying to work around cumbersome safety devices is far more dangerous in my opinion. I’ve never had a close call with a table saw and can’t imagine a situation where I will. My digits stay away from the spinning wheel of death.
Seems you guys hurt a lot of DeWalt fans/owners feelings with this one! Have used the UK versions of the Bosch, DeWalt and Makita saws. The Bosch plainly has the most power. Really like the fence and table extension of the Makita. Quite like Dewalts ability to incrementally wind the fence into position. Little to choose between them to be honest but the Makita is underpowered. Weakest of the 3 I've used.
This video was brought to you by Saw Stop ha obvs
But Skilsaw won?
Kyler Only by 1 point. Lol
Only by one point, and because the Saw Stop is twice as expensive as the others.
G-Shock Jock The vast majority of people using table saws are not using Saw Stop. And the vast majority don’t lose any limbs. So what’s your point?
Uhhh so now if something wins on a video it was sponsored lmao. Let me guess if DeWalt won you wouldn’t be saying the same shit huh.
Great review. This is exactly what I needed. As a novice woodworker, I always equated Skilsaw with brands like Black & Decker. Glad I've been proved wrong!
There's a clear bias against dewalt. Dewalt always seemed to have the least to be said about it.
What you are doing in this video is not safe. Your assistant pulling the wood through the saw is exactly how Tommy Caldwell (the climber) lost his index finger. If the saw kicks back, the assistant's hand can be pulled directly into the blade. This is unlikely when she's standing far back from the saw, but there are moments in the video where she's standing close. *Never* pull material through a table saw.
Jay Bailey Good advice Jay. Thanks for looking out for us.
$1,300 is expensive for a sawstop table saw, but’s it cheaper than going to the emergency room.
Makita ever gonna make another table saws?
You lucky bastards in the states can get these awesome saws, hear in the UK we get the basic shit.
Does anyone know where to find a good video on the skilsaw finger guard thing? I've just been using the riving knife but decided I want to start using the guard as well. However, it seems very floppy and and seems like I have to have the blade significantly higher than just exposing the gullet of the blade.
I bought a DeWalt because once it is set up the legs are pretty stable whereas those that use the wheels and legs in combination seem to rock to and fro more than the DeWalt did. What this video doesn't tell you is how much that safety feature costs you on the Saw Stop if you should trigger the automatic shutdown process. I don't know the exact figure but it is not cheap and once the safety device is triggered it must be replaced to my knowledge.
You fail to see how much money that device going off just saved you. the cost of a doctor/surgeon/emergency room visit, the pain and suffering from loosing a finger or worse, and perhaps the loss of income from being injured. Ask anyone who has had an accident where the device saved them from an injury if they complained about the $50 device and a new blade they would need to purchase.
Die Skilaw super. Aaaaaaaber der Preis!!!!!!!
this is a great review man. love it
should have shown the hotdog test.
Pass, Pass, Pass, Pass, Failed Miserably
These clowns didn't remove the cover on the Dewalt to change the riving knife . So they chose skills as over Dewalt ?
Got me fucked
I'm not even 2 minutes into this, and I already know this is garbage. Nobody that ever used a real table saw cares about a blade guard or a riving knife. They are more dangerous than anything. These guys definitely never made their living working with their hands.
I had the Dewalt 7491RS before I replaced it with the Flexvolt model due to space limitations in my van. That was the only reason, besides going cordless of course. I had none of those issues that you pointed out. The fence on mine was rock solid with no play, the riving knife slipped in and out in secounds, power was never lackning, transportation was easy once you got used to the folding legs. I noticed that you made a wrong move there, the lower legs can be folded simply with your foot.
hows the flex volt? im between that or the skilsaw
Adam McKenzie I really love it, but I hear the skilsaw is good too. I guess it depends on the corded/cordless situation between those two
Mattias Blomqvist im all about cordless so lol check me on instagram if u have it @mwaramps
Adam McKenzie go with FV then. You wont regret it 👍
Same I have it as well and it’s easy to move
While it is a little suspicious that the saw they don’t sell came in last place, I agree with the winner here. There is another great 8 saw head-to-head review where the Skilsaw places 3rd. That review, like a lot of negative reviews out there about this saw, seems to be too critical of it’s “out of the box” accuracy. I disagree with this because I think ANY saw you buy should be calibrated for performance and safety. Also, every saw you buy is going to vary slightly within each brand. You can’t just assume perfect out of box setup based on a review of 1 saw. Maybe if you tested 100 of each you’d get a more accurate review, but even so, I’d still calibrate my new saw. In this age, I’m just not brand-loyal anymore. I used to love Hitachi, and still lean that way on a coin-flip. However, Almost everything is made in China or overseas now, and there are way too many resources like these reviews to help you decide what’s best for you. If you are still brand-loyal, then just buy your brand and be happy...No need to run out and get your Dewalt tattoo covered or get all worked up over somebody else’s opinion. I was actually narrowed down to the Skilsaw and Dewalt, but chose the better motor, torque, and stand.
How do u calibrate a table saw?
Anyone with a Dewalt tattoo should have to have a 'by Black & Decker' butt tattoo.
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@@nutrasweet8325 the manual has the info.
Obviously you can’t expect to make everyone happy with your scoring but here are a couple of things you missed. The Dewalt has a lock mechanism that makes the fence very solid, it has a separate riving knife. You also dinged its miter gauge while complimenting the Sawstop’s cheesy plastic one. The biggest thing you left out of your comparison was rip capacity; 32” for the Dewalt 25” for the Sawstop. I love Sawstop - I’m planning on buying one of their cabinet saws - but this one has too many limitations for the price.
But it wont cut your fingers. That has a price.
@@VaracolacidVesci Not if I don't intend to put my fingers on the saw blade.
@@tonylawrence9157 anyone with that argument is stupid enough to be ignored
NObody intends to, Accidents happen, and tablesaws are certainly on the list of offenders. Personally, I try and use my Festool saw to rip sheet goods to size, I really have no love for ripping 4 x8 sheets so the capacity of any of thse at just over 24" is fine. If you tossed out "Value" the Saw Stop won on features easily. But to each his own.
@@tonylawrence9157
@@tonylawrence9157 Nobody INTENDS to put their fingers on the saw blade.
For people watching this at the end of 2022, and because table saw tech isn't really going to advance much, I'll throw in my take. I used to have the Bosch 4100-09 and I really liked it. It's a great saw and I would still have it, but had to move and it was one of the large items I decided to sell instead of lugging around with me. I made a lot of nice things on the Bosch, in particular speaker cabinets and some furniture. This year I got the Skilsaw SPT99 and while I haven't had a chance to stress-test it, my initial take is that it is a substantially better saw. A lot of the wear items that are plastic on the Bosch are metal on the Skilsaw. The Skillsaw has a better fence that stays true and the worm drive does provide a tangible increase in cutting power. The Skilsaw worm drive saws have lower no-load RPM ratings, but generally they maintain the RPM better under load than direct drive saws will...and if you want a portable table saw then the Skilsaw is definitely the way to go even in 2022.
"First, we're gonna look at safety!"
(skips ahead in video)
Well as a cabinet maker who takes a full workshop with me to the job site I can honestly say that my DeWalt never let me down. With close to 10 years of abuse. i bought mine with the older style folding stand. Having said all that, semi retired now and I needed a new table saw on wheels (66 years old...me not the saw) and i got a great deal on the Bosh which I love. I would take either one to a job site. That's my two cents.
EXACTLY ! The older model DW 744 - unbeatable , work 20 years without ANY problem ! Don't buy bosh - germachina company instal chip bearing without cover - after 3 years its replacement . bosh das scheisse !
Edward i am pretty much in the same boat here only i am 60
Bought the portable Dewalt years ago and threw the stand away and mounted it on my rolling work table that has my shaper on the other end and planer and jointer in the middle
About 4 years ago i gave my youngest son the Dewalt and installed a router lift in its place and bought the Bosh and love it
Only thing is at year 4 the bearings is starting go out and the saw has ripped a ton of oak but very few hrs of any daddo blade time
The dewalt has a separate riving knife. At $450US I don't see how this was rated so low in the price category. The safety guard, riving knife, vacuum port, kickback guard is a work of genius. Like all saws you have to raise the blade to full height to insert the riving knife. Just remove the zero clearance plate to insert then replace. Too easy. Saying it just gets in the way is careless. The fence is certainly solid enough. And the rip capacity is the best. And can accomodate a dado stack.
For guys who supposed to know tools, fail. Anyone who pulls a board through from the outfeed side while my hands are pushing gets one warning and then they are banned from anything that requires thinking. Pretty obvious SawStop bias here. I'll look for a more objective and experienced bunch of guys to believe. Nice try Coptool, but you don't really fool anyone.
A Hitachi won in another Event, on another channel... it's not even represented here. the sawstop only had the safety feature, besides that, it came in last.
now i want to see project farm do a video on these saws.
Wow! It's not hard to figure out who paid for this video. I mean the saw crapped out while making a simple cut and yet it still scores better than the name brand saws, really.
It didn't crap out... Also, Saw Stop is a name brand well known saw (if not popular because of the cost)
cuchanu In a single country worldwide.
A job site saw that can't take the abuse, then why advertise as jobsite saw. Unless it has some sort of way to disable that "technology". But I guess when you disable that then it turns out just any other lower price saw with a high price tag.
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@Benicio Sterling definitely, I have been using Kaldrostream for since december myself =)
I have a dewalt saw. It's okay. You got to take it slow with lumber if you want a nice finish accurate cut. The fence sucks. The saw has crapped out on me several times and I maintain it well. But still works. I got different brand tools that work best for what I need. Found out One brand doesn't rule them all. Bull. But did like the skill saw. My buddy has it. Spent the day collaborating on projects and I used that saw. Damn. Feels like a Cabinet Saw Shop minus the fence. I'm not about brands. They're all give and take on different products. But that machine damn well works with 2x4, 4x4, 2x6 and 2x8. That worm drive sold me. I got a 6 1/2 rigid cordless saw they dont make anymore with a worm drive. Love it. Milwaukee surge impact drill. Love it. Dewalt cordless framing circular saw. Love it. You can love your brand. But I love good work without worrying. That Skill Saw spt99-11 is a solid work horse. And that's what I want. It's just a machine. I'm not faithful to the brand. That's my money. That machine quality should be faithful to me.
I agree with your comment regarding saw safety. However, you went overboard in praising Sawstop. Without their patient infringement lawsuit against Bosch over the REAXX GTS1041A Jobsite Table Saw we consumers would have an additional and perhaps cheaper flesh-detection option.
You don't think Sawstop should have the ability to protect their patent?
Yes, they do and they did. I'm just saying I, as a USA consumer, have less choice. SawStop's patents were issued in the 2000s. They tried in 2014 to make the patent standards essential. Why other manufacturers have not licensed SawStop's IP and incorporated them into products would be really interesting to know. Regardless, these patents will expire in two to three years. More brands of table-saws with flesh-detection safety features should be available then and, hopefully, at lower pricing levels.
@@kamleo1685 Price is why. can't wait to see what happens when the patent runs out.
@@whoDatBeDare SAW STOP was established by three patent attorneys according to reliable sources.
These are some very randomly given scores... My money would be on either the Bosch or the DeWalt even after watching this. Never mind the arbitrary scores, there are many minor aspects (which compound to become major factors) that makes a saw worth having.
Agreed, the Bosch and DeWalt are great site saws but for me the DeWalt wins because it has a much better fence.
Just ordered the DeWalt since all other reviews are oberwhelmimgly positive. For some reason I get a feeling this video was sponsored by SawStop
Would make since, they kept shitting on DeWalt which that exact model is a huge seller worldwide.. in Israel it's about $1,000 for that DeWalt and it's a top seller (literally can find Israeli's who own it that paid that much after experiencing it at trade shows).
Yep. $1,100 AU.
All the other companies have a saw with similar "flesh sensing technology", but sawstop has sued every single one of them even though they differ slightly.
The SawStop is a great saw, that's why it was well reviewed.
And I think the DeWalt is very popular because of the easy fence adjustment, not necessarily because it's amazingly good.
Love how the guys tried to fold up the DeWalt's legs out of sequence. Apparently they did not read the OM.
skip to 3:28
cause seriously, who buys a saw based on how "safe" it is? Quite frankly, if safety is the first thing you consider when buying a saw, you should probably find a different hobby... stamp collecting or something...
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This is the only video that I have watched that claims the Dewalt has issues with the fence or tool storage. It seemed as though SkilSaw had a lot to do with how the categories were graded. This is also the first video that has graded the SkilSaw well in power and accuracy. Just by watching this video, I can tell that I wouldn’t subscribe to this channel. Not a lot of integrity in the review. While I agree that the SawStop is probably the better of the five because of the safety, the DeWalt is clearly a better saw that the others. Good luck Cop Tool at being able to maintain a following with this kind of skewed testing.
The butthurt runs deep
damn people ae seriously upset over a brand jeez lolll are you a share holder or something ?? ahahah
Say as you will about that DeWalt, but I've tossed my table for it broke. The fence has been replaced at $90 Canadian and my fence now is on its last leg.
I bog that saw out all the time ripping hardy.
I do however love the 32 1/2" rip it makes, though it would be nice if the extension arms have more strength to them.
You do have to watch out after ripping a mitre to set back to true, the fence is stupid easy to line back up.
The issues I've mentioned are easy to overcome, but it is underpowered and I have used the bosch one as well with my biggest peeve being it's a pita to clean.
I have used the Makita and Sawstop at different times for residential finish carpentry. The Sawstop wins by far. One thing you can't test out on first glance is longevity. The cheap plastic gears under the Makita table saw shear off and get clogged full of sawdust even with routine dusting; this combined with the glide bearings loosening (resulting in binding) make it a right bitch to adjust. You can counteract this with maintenance and careful operation but I would rather use the Sawstop with the added benefit of finger safety.
Thumbs up if your a dewalt fan and own lots of them ! 👍🏻
As to the Dewalt, the fence can be aligned by simply loosening the black lock down studs on the front and rear fence bar and adjusting the fence to either the blade or miter slot. Also the Dewalt comes with two riving knives. One for the blade guard and one for used as a stand alone with the blade only. I also noted that you were not properly installing the riving knife on the Dewalt. You should remove the blade cover plate so you can see the slot where the riving knife fits. Trying to do it in the "blind" is very difficult.
Yeah you're just completely right
The SawStop issue reminds me of the story from year when the Eppipen (the lifesaving self injection syringe for those who have allergies) jumped from $60 to $300 each because the product was purchased by a different company and the owner of the company raised the cost. SawStop could sell many more saws by lowering the cost a bit and they would be saving more people from harm if they did.
Altruism is not the goal of a company founded by 3 patent attorneys.
Festool bought out sawstop.
If Professional even intermediate Prilosec handle the saw like these idiots in this video they would have fingers nor common sense of safety.
Buy the way you can adjust the fence on the dewalt in every way. If you knew what you are talking about you would know that. Also there is a separate riving blade without the guard. Again if you knew what you are talking about you would know that. I can go on even the way you checked for accuracy, not using the right tools. Again if you knew what you are talking about you would have used the right tools for tuning it. Also the fence can be tightened down with an easy adjustment so it doesn't move at all. Again you don't know what you are talking about.
The riving knife on the dewalt is super easy to swap. I'm surprised you guys had such issues. Reminds me of those infomercial that make ordinary people look stupid by failing to do simple tasks. Best part about the dewalt knife is you don't have to take out the blade guard.
Dewalt doesn’t need you to bend to fold the bottom legs, use your feet, super easy
For two years I've been reviewing compact table and mitre saws and finally bought a Dewalt table saw last week. I looked at Rigid, Makita, Hitachi, SkilSaw, Harbor Tools, Delta, and Bosch and in terms of price, positive reviews and longevity, I chose the Dewalt. I also never saw any product information or heard of a SawStop. I bought the DW745. There is no way I wanted to spend more than $500 on a residential compact table saw, which I'm going to use for hobby projects and minor woodworking. I also wanted something that as a female I could easily move, while many of these table saws weighed over 75 lbs, which also made the Dewalt a clear winner at just under 50 lbs.
Had a Bosch, lasted about 8 months in and out of the truck. Makita too, lasted about 6 months, burned the motor up. Bought a DeWalt 3 years ago, and abuse the hell out of it. Had to get a new fence, and put a new chord on it. Still using the DeWalt, but I'd love to try the SkilSaw. Durability and accuracy, everything else is just horse manure.
"Durability and accuracy, everything else is just horse manure."
And that is why I returned a Saw Stop after 48 hours.. accuracy lacking.
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Hey, with a video of more than 15 minutes we do not know:
Which has the soft start or the best? Which one has the best brake?
What is the best dust port? What is the noise of each one?
Wake up guys, we are in the year of 2018!!!
Thanks for watching!
SawStop is the only saw with a brake. Bosch includes soft start circuitry and the Skilsaw effectively has soft start through their worm drive motor. The Dewalt, Makita and SawStop do not utilize soft starts. I can't say which has the best dust port as they're all relatively the same when used with a vac. However, if you don't have a vac, Skilsaw has a 45 deg. elbow attachment for their dust port so you could point down to a bucket and collect some of the debris. We've run tests on noise but didn't find much of a difference in each model.
coptool Thank you
They didn't fool with answering these questions because the SawStop wouldn't have one in those important categories, and you can't make the company that paid for the advertisement look bad in their sponsored video.
Angry welder, yes, they answer, you can see here.
In this test SawStop is the only saw with a brake
Weird. In all other head to head videos for table saws Dewalt usually places in the top 3 or 2. Here.... dead last. Seems..... fishy. And for those thinking I'm a Dewalt fanboy..... I don't even own a table saw.
thanks for the comments guys, i'm not even going to watch the video. I appreciate real people making me not waist my time
I think this needs to be revisited. Before reading the comments, I already felt an odd bias against the DeWalt. That, or maybe lack of familiarity or something, really seemed to skew the DeWalt ratings. I'd be interested in noise ratings, too. My father had a Bosch that was so loud he looked for a replacement and I turned down taking it when he broke down his shop a couple of years ago.
Just so everyone knows, coptool is authored by Ohio Power Tool (you can see this if you click on their "about" tab). This company does not sell Dewalt, they do sell Bosch, Makita, Sawstop, and Skilsaw. This isn't an objective review. It's a review geared towards selling more of their products. It's pretty obvious by how they rate the Dewalt.
Chris we are affiliated with Ohio Power Tool, we try not to hide that which is why it's on top of every page of www.coptool.com and in all bios and mentioned frequently. Coptool works as independently as possible so we can get the best results. Coptool's testing and results is much more likely to guide what Ohio Power Tool recommends and sells than vice-versa. We have many tests where Dewalt has won or been 2nd, in the recent "Most Innovative Tools of 2017" Dewalt was the Winner (ua-cam.com/video/1gWM5Viwt-w/v-deo.htmlm32s ). We thought going in to this test it would middle or top of the pack because of it's popularity, again these were all super close in power testing it was not as definitive as we were hoping, so it came down to things like movement in the fence and other smaller details. Again it could be just this one saw that might have had some issues or less power than typical that might of skewed this for any of the tools tested. You should also know most, if not all Tool Review Channels are sponsored by tool brands and/or retailers so you should always be somewhat skeptical of the results, we try to be as upfront as possible about that which is not always the case with others.
Well, along with the fact that the dewalt really is the worst saw in this group.
No Milwaukee. Wow. We’re dunzos
@@Memory_ahole a Milwaukee jobsite table saw isn't very common... I've never seen one. Most people seem to have the DeWalt.
@@ToolShow I came in here for advice on what jobsite Table saw to buy. (incidentally your vidio helped a lot) However I thought I would mention - whether Chris's opinion of this not being an objective review is valid or not - The fact that you left the comment in place proves to me that Coptool can be a trusted resource for advice on tools. Many Thanks, subbed
Did you survey the relative number of people to whom wheeling their site table saws up and down stairs is of concern? Why so much prominence to up - dowm stairs travell? Someone commented that she ( must be lady) likes one of your rated saws best because of its colour. Also the rating features are not ordered in their relative importance. Bloke from Aus.
If you're buying a portable table saw, PORTABILITY kinda matters. The skilsaw wins by far on this one and that is quite evident.
All these safety analyses seem lacking, although this article touches on some of them: A blade guard, riving knife, pawls, and a push stick are all de rigueur at this point, as they are required by law. The real questions that need to be asked in safety comparisons should be:
1. The most obvious: is it a sawstop? 1a. Why is sawstop blocking the adoption of similar technologies in the U.S., like the one Bosch developed, while at the same time lobbying to make it a requirement?
2. Can you rip thin strips without removing the blade guard with the aid of a flip over auxiliary fence, or even better, a thin Euro-style blade guard like the sawstop has?
3. Can you use the blade guard while cross-cutting thick workpieces, or when using a tall auxillary fence on your miter guage?
4. Can you use the blade guard with the riving knife in its low position to facilitate quick transitions from non-through cuts to through cuts and back?
5. Does the saw have an electric blade brake? This is always overlooked and is very important. Notably it's required in Europe.
6. Is the saw accurate out of the box so that your first cuts don't bind?
7. Does the insert plate design allow for easy fabrication of a zero clearance insert in a home workshop with limited tools that will stay in place and allow passage of the riving knife through the insert?
8. Does it accommodate dado blades? If so, is there a dado insert plate available? Europe doesn't allow the use of dados for safety reasons.
I like my Ridgid table saw and it’s Lifetime warranty I’ve had no problems and it performs very well daily .. I use Diablo blades on all my saws
My grandfather and I bought a Ridgid TS3612 back in 2001, that saw was great, still works great, but my grandfather passed away in January of this year, and my uncle now has the saw, I have no clue why he don't use it, just one of those items that the family thought they needed to take from the shop, that they'll never use as was the same with everything else they took, if it had any sort of value they could get by selling they took, it...nevermind the fact that grandpa and I went halves on it, so technically they owe me for 1/2 the cost of the saw....I ended up getting a Grizzly hybrid table saw to replace it. I also bought the Skilsaw SPT99-11 which is the HD portable worm drive table saw for the times where I need to take the saw to the work LOL....the Grizzly table saw is great, but its a bit of a chore to move it LOL. The mobile stand for the Skilsaw is great, the large wheels make it very easily movable, and easy to load/unload from a pickup too.
I use Diablo blades as well, they work great, and last a long time....The Diablo blades are made by Freud.
this review is a joke. The saw stop overloaded and received an 8/10.
VERY important note on the Skilsaw ! The Skilsaw 99-12 was tested, it is NOT the one sold at the box stores. The 99-12 has a larger motor and much better fence than the box store model . It has a short auxilary fence that flips into place for extra hand clearance on close rips, the same auxilary fence drops below table height and acts as a material support for the main fence on wide rips It also has a rip capacity of 30.5 inches and the tube frame of the stand is set to table height to act as a material support left of table. I've had this saw a couple months and couldn't be happier with the power and the design features.
Ordered mine over a year ago. Finally getting it this week! Any updates on this initial review?
@@868_4_Life The saw has held up well. The amount of torque still impresses me and I appreciate the push stick always being easy to get to. I have had two issues. The fence lock stopped working one day in very cold weather and had to be adjusted and the lift mechanism has developed a small amount of play so that I am having to put a little (very little) lift at the rear of the motor while raising the blade to keep it from binding. I think I can adjust that but haven't tried yet. All in all I've been happy with this machine.
The only difference between the 99-11 and the 99-12 is the saw blade. The 12 comes with a diablo blade.
I think the value of the SawStop was completely underestimated. Yes it’s expensive, very expensive, but no matter how long you’ve been a woodworker, no matter how many years you’ve been using a table saw, the day you wish your saw blade could stop in 5ms is the day you wish you went the extra $500.
I just replaced an old Ridgid TS3612 earlier this year with a Grizzly G0771Z hybrid table saw. I was after a Sawstop, but given availability and shipping issues I went with a Grizzly that arrived within a few days vs an unknown shipping date ugg....oh a Sawstop will still end up in the shop at some point in the future for sure, but the Grizzly is getting everything done that I need...the Sawstop when I get it will have the extended rip fence, and the nice outfeed table and dust collection setup too....I gotta get the shop fixed up and everything first so I have the room I need for that Sawstop. The Sawstop isn't that much more expensive overall given the features it has and the safety system it has.
But but wait we're not done yet.... what about ripping size capacity, dado blades, and weight of each saw including their stand and with out stands. I feel like this video is sponsored by skill.
It's hard to believe this comparison, because it is so far away from many other reviews/comparisons.
Dewalt's riding knife change difficult? It's fence not precise? That are the most appreciated factors!
Take a look at this comparison :
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Much more into facts!!
Thanks for the link. I'm looking at a table saw at present. I would give you 100 x thumbs up if I could. This is a bench mark standard review that makes the "Coptool" review look like a joke. I'm going to go for Dewalt, seems best value for quality, features and affordability. My table saw will stay in workshop.
cool review but would have liked to know how the saws got 7/10 for accuracy, like where were points taken off and was it just out of the box and adjustable to a higher score?
How are the values for Bosch and DeWalt the same for price when DeWalt is $50 cheaper. And sawstop is more than 2x the price of the DeWalt and is only 2 points lower? You arbitrarily threw out scores.
These are all good brands so value is obvious, we are looking at price.
If DeWalt and Bosch are an 8 then saw stop is a 4-5 in price category.
Ryan Irving Fair point. Thanks for your input!
I disagree that it's not purely price. Let's say saw a and b are the same price, but B is 5 points higher on everything else, it should get a better value score.
@@scottroy6195 read my comment. It was talking about purely the values they attached to the price category, not the saws as a whole.
My comment on the end was to qualify that all these jobsite saws are good quality and all are going to do a similar job. When your looking for a jobsite saw whether it's bosch, dewalt, rigid, makita; they are all basically the same, it comes down to price and brand loyalty. The sawstop really shouldn't even be in this comparison as it's a gimmick, any contractor that uses one either just wants to promote an image or has heavy brand loyalty.
Sponsored by Saw Stop?....every comment is edged towards it. Pointless.
Saw Stop may not have won the shootout but the presenter did a back door do-over and hyped the Saw Stop.
I am looking to buy a portable table saw as my rather large 3 hp 3 belt drive 12 " saw with sliding table is overkill for what work I am doing now. I am seriously considering the SAW STOP JobSite but the the company turns me off with their business practices and apparent greed and poor attitude ( I have spoken with them a few times over the years.. unfriendly, unhelpful, and took 8 days to return the last call about 2 months ago) I can afford their top of the line best cabinet saw but don't need it.. I want accuracy and reliability, ease of use and reasonable portability. Other saws seem to deliver that. I am still on the fence. This video was of no help, no credibility.
Excellent review, this cleared up so many unknowns when buying a tablesaw. I should mention that ohio tool sells the saw for 499 however shipping to my house would cost me $178
I want to buy skilsaw . Table saw
@@galvanizedgnome i have one Dewalt butbi like skilsaw
In five years my dewalt never let me down, and it’s used HARD.
That Dewalt is a very popular saw, and honestly one that someone should consider. I have a Skilsaw SPT99-11 which is the heavy duty worm drive portable table saw, but if I were on jobsites all the time the value saw would be that Dewalt for sure as they're extremely popular all over the country, and the price is pretty reasonable. The Ridgid would be a good contender as well with its lifetime service agreement. In the 23 years I had the Ridgid TS3612 contractor table saw, the only thing I replaced on it was several blades, and the drive belt...its still a great saw, other than the fact that my uncle has it now LOL.
I disagree with your Sawstop value. You said value, not price...you can't place value on your fingers, and losing one is certainly worth more than the money spent on the saw....and of course, I posted this before I saw the end bit!!!!
you have to do a complete tear down of the bosch to move it....Oh no...it literally takes 30 seconds...I cannot state enough how un-thought out this is..
Glad you mentioned the REAL ADVANTAGE of the SawStop over the others :)
I've used the Skilsaw and it's bad ass, rips 3.5" boards and doesn't miss a beat.
Yah but lets be realistic , most of the time u cut some wet crap wood on construction , Pt wood aluminum , u will be running switching to a by pass mode on saw stop all thr time , or you will trigger that safety mechanism and u will be sitting waiting for new cartrage and new blade , so lost time , lost money and hustle runing to stores to replace blades and cartrages , on construction its going to be frustrating, if u have to stop project , and i dont just talk crap about sawstop, i owe one of my own but proffessional version , and for home , shop invironment when u have all the time in the world to check moisture in the wood , set everything up blah blah blah it works great
This review sucks as the SawStop fence will flex when used. You commented on all the other saw fence but the SawStop why is that? I love the safety aspect of the JSS but the fence is a MAJOR FLAW. If I knew this before purchase I would of stepped up to the contractor saw.
In spite of the flimsy wings or a couple hundred to get the solid ( not pressed tin) upgrade version of them. ?
With the "top end" Contractor saws, you are splitting hairs with the top brands. I have used them all, Bosh, Milwaukee, DeWalt, etc... You have to understand what these saws are, they are saw's designed to MOVE, be light enough to move to a job site by people that need them to make straight cuts/rips.
They are NOT cabinet saws, per se, but you can use them in that manner if you get one and decide to take the time to tweak them, make sure it's all square and flat. You can use any of them to make some very nice things if you take the time, make a few jigs, and use a very good blade.
I use the DeWalt because it's available everywhere, is a great saw out of the box, you can purchase upgrades if you wish, rack and pinion fence, and room for a dado stack of 13/16. These are not cabinet saws, but the with the price of under $1000 bucks, they just can't be, and they will all work best in a stationary setting, like a built in table. Take the time to measure and tweak them to the tolerances you want, use a good blade, and enjoy many years of use.
I watched a vid @ a Concord carpenter who had this the other way around.
On his, the Hitachi won overall. With the dewalt in 2nd and the skilsaw was 3rd. These saws are all close in performance. With the tests that concord did, and then watching these... I think it's between the dewalt and skilsaw. I think either saw will be great. But I did like that the skilsaw didn't slow down when cutting during this test.
Compared to this presentation the Concord Tool video was professional and objective.
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Wow. I just bought a Dewalt 2 weeks ago. Im glad to see the reviews here that recomend Dewalt. I definatly di not agree with 5th place. Glad i bought the dewalt.
glenncountry dewalt is a damn good saw, if it gets the job done, who cares what other people say lol
these 'testers' probably haven't used these saws for anymore than a day. i have owned the dewalt for around 3 years now, and tried the Bosch and makita. the dewalt is in another league, the bosch and makita don't come close.
I bought this Dewalt several months ago and love it. The fence is awesome and power is great.
Having watched the beginners mistake video, I noticed you are committing a beginner mistake, you are ripping a board with the excess against the fence. Didn't you know that increases the chance of a kickback. LOL
I remember when Skil was a great brand. Maybe it is again. I have a Dewalt DW740 that I picked up for $239 at the homer depot because that model number was being phased out. I love it.
I have the Skilsaw SPT99-11 Heavy Duty Worm Drive portable table saw, its great, very accurate, and tons of power with that worm drive system....the rack and pinion is metal rather than plastic like most of these saws.
Boy you ruffled a feathers boys , keep up the great work!!
I disagree with you putting a 6-10 for value on the SawStop. This is not a fair comparison because of the others don’t have the flesh sensing technology. As of today it’s a $1579 saw. I was at Rockler for a hot dog demonstration on a SawStop saw. 2 of the dozen guys in the class were missing fingers and were there to buy a SawStop saw. I would have gave it a 9-10 for value.
What about Ridgid? Anybody? I've had one for a few years and it's been a work horse. Zero problem....I remodeled my house using it.
Dewalt has another riving knife that's separate from the blade guard (you get two riving knifes, essentially), if I'm not mistaken.
Obviously biased by guys who don't ever actually use the tools for their intended purposes, aren't very skilled with their hands, or just aren't that bright.
Wrong, Absolute junk !!! Pretty much everything broke on it within 4 months of daily jobsite use. The tires even melted in the Texas sun, lol. Only positive thing I can say is you can leave it on the jobsite overnight with that Skil name on the side of it and it will still be there in the morning. Push stick holder is cool, little plumbing elbow to aim some of the dust down cool. No blade lock so you can perform a dado or a rabbet, without the blade wondering off into the sunset not cool. Putting the blade adjustment jack screw inside the dust port with the blade majorly not cool. So the jack screw which they engineered to be super tight as they have no blade lock gets all gummed up with dust, its hell to clean then the handle which is of coarse plastic only has a 1/4 inch of flat spot in contact with the shaft so it strips out almost immediately and your using vice grips to raise and lower the blade which you have taken off so you can get your hand in there with a small wire brush to try and clean the jack screw off. Then you JB weld the handle back on once you get back to the shop. I'm expecting the red fence lock handle to snap off any day now. If your a DIY'er and cut some 1/4 once every two years to make a new Rudolf for your manger scene, then its a great saw, if you make a living with your tools then get a Dewalt or pretty much anything other than this. Skil must mean Suck in Yiddish, lol
Obviously you guys got a thing against dewalt. You gave other saws the same ratings as dewalt when the dewalt did way better. Cmon guys. You got makita in front of it. What a joke.
Busch is better always cheap but super brand, makita is expensive but some of its products like table saws have failed to edge other brands, issue of fence makita can't make anything relevant.
I bet the people at Sawstop weren't too happy hearing they only beat a Skill saw by 1 point. The concept of Sawstop is great but it's not like their saws are head and shoulders above everyone else in quality. If you keep the blade guard on, you don't have to worry nearly as much about cutting yourself. The problem was that most saws weren't made to have a guard so a lot of people hurt themselves. But more people hurt themselves due to kick back than cutting themselves. When Sawstop gives their statistics they fail to note injuries due to kickback are included.
Kickbacks dont remove your hand. You just get a bruise and maybe shit your pants.
it's 2023 and the Skilsaw is $650... inflation....... cant buy it anyways until i pay off my credit cards..... =(. gotta be responsible.
I bought the SS before seeing this but it would not have made any difference. I bought it for the safety factor, period.
I like the makita. It does cost more, but you get real tangeble benefits for the money like smooth ramp up and low rpm loss under load, both contribute to keeping your breaker from being thrown. It's also the quietest, one of the most accurate out of the box, and I'm pretty sure it's the only one with a off-break. I think it goes very under appreciated how much more comfortable a few decibels and a rapid off-cycle is until you have to deal with a ripsnot freewheeling saw.
Those are the features I go for too. Also stability and low vibration when using dado set.
How about using a dial indicator. Concord Woodworker does a much better job of comparing saws. They use 5 guys comparing the saws not one opinion ( yours) Such a bias review.
This review is an excellent reason to ignore any review 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, ok guys, but where’s ridgid table saw ???!!! seems that have no adversary...or you guys are afraid to show the...”mighty” !!
Nothing beats Dewalt!
Any of these table saws cost upwards of 1000 dollars in poorer countries. I don't understand the mentality of making the prices of tools easier in rich countries.
I have that exact model Dewalt and have used it plenty over the past 4 years. I added a Ridge carbide blade, zero clearance insert, and JessEm rollers (router version) attached to a Rocker aluminum fence. I posted a photo on my Amazon review. It works great, but like all table saws......isn't perfect. The tabletop is a bit small and isn't dead flat like you would find on a cast iron saw. The miter slot is also a bit sloppy. And in my case, the fence has a tendency to lift upwards because of the force of the rollers pushing down.....but this was fixed by drilling a hole in the plastic fence bracket and adding another lockdown bolt. Out of the 5 saws reviewed, I would most likely choose this one again. The Saw-stop is nice, but you're approaching hybrid saw pricing.
This was more like an infomercial for sawstop
Thank you! Our production quality is important to us. Have a great day Karen!
There's another review where Hitachi and dewalt wins and skillsaw and saw stop 3. Who fuckin know what's the best haha. Overall for what I see I'd buy the dewalt.
It seems to me like they were all very good. I am planning to buy the Bosch only because someone is selling me one for $300.
Outstanding deal.
Too bad u don't have the best value and featured saw
Metabo HPT
Plus they have the cordless version which is a game changer in my trade since I can use the AC adapter and batteries
No Contest
And the winner is skill think this review is rigged 9 out of 10 power I don't think so I rip 4x4 all day with it its a beast
Tripping the breaker is a disqualifier for me then add in that you can get almost 2 for the price of 1 Sawstop is the other disqualifier
I know I'm late to the party here but, Makita should be ashamed of themselves for their tablsaw offering
I NEVER see anyone with a Makita table saw on the jobsite! Hell, I haven't even seen one in a retail store in many years.
This from the company that without a doubt, revolutionized the portable table saw back in the mid 80s.
The marketing writes itself here guy's
I have makita drill that has served me well but their table saw never made it onto my radar. The conclusion of this video is accurate but I think they were a bit generous with the points on the contenders. The Bosch has good power but I do think the Skilsaw should have gotten a 10/10 for that; it can handle more than what they did in these tests and I bet the other saws would bog or trip the breaker. I had the Bosch and I know it will bog when trying to cut 3.5" of material in one pass because mine bogged at 3", while the Skilsaw will slice 3.5" of any material effortlessly.