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RENFE Euromed review: A stunning ride onboard that gauge changing train
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2021
- Buenos dias,
Welcome to this trip report onboard the RENFE Euromed service. It's time to review the Spanish gauge changing train, the S-130!
Enjoy :)
- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED IN DECEMBER 2019
Railroad company: RENFE
Train type : S-130
From : Barcelona Sants to València Joaquín Sorolla
Time : 2h40
Price : €33 or $39
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What are your thoughts on the S-130 ?
Oooops 10:40 isTarragona not Castellón 🥲
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I think the S-130 are a great class! They represent the best of both gauges. The higher speeds of the standard gauge systems and the Talgo technology allows them to switch to the standard European gauge as well. I think they are a solid 5/5 stars in my opinion!
The colours of the seating, flooring and interior walls do remind me of a hospital too!
I hope that when you review the Lake Shore Limited Amtrak route that you will make a slight adjustment. Instead of catching the LSL at Union Station in Chicago, take the South Shore line from Chicago to South Bend, then switch in South Bend to Amtrak. You'll get two reviews on the same trip. Unfortunately, you'll have to take a bus or cab from the South Shore stop in South Bend to the nearby Amtrak station. The transformation of the open air train lines leading to Millennium Station (with fencing protecting Michigan Ave. pedestrians from a 40-foot drop) to its current status as Millennium Park is quite dramatic, and there are plenty of photos online showing the drastic change. And as you must be aware, the South Shore line is affectionately known as "America's Last Interurban" railway. It won't be around forever. Travel safe!
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Many things have changed since 2019: Euromed services now depart from high speed tracks (1-6) in Sants station, sometimes starting from Figueres, and instead of running along the coast to Tarragona (the most beautiful part), they use the inland Barcelona-Madrid high speed line and change gauge at Camp de Tarragona, rejoining the old coastal line at Vandellòs.
This saves some time but makes the trip less scenic.
Also Sants station is due to be expanded and refurbished soon, and a 2nd, bigger high speed station will be opened in Barcelona (La Sagrera) at some point, although nobody knows when...
That's funny, as a spaniard I wondered if you were going to criticize the train decoration, which has always looked to me like a hospital. I guess I was spot on.
thats why it is called euromed
@@mazombieme4045 lol, good one
Yeah inside of Spanish trains are funny. I always thought it was because of the heat. They are basic enough, I love travelling In Spain though
What speed does this train do, is it high speed
@@shawnshawn1631220km/h and 250km/h
As a spaniard, I can tell the story of this service is quite unique!
In the 1990s, when this service started to operate, it was operated by iberian gauge S-100s (Yep! Those that make AVE services), called S-101 to be distinguished from it's twin. It operated until 2011 (I'm still sad it got retired, it did its job great), when it got replaced by the rolling stock you boarded in. Really like the review! :)
*FUN FACT: The unit 101-012 had one standard locomotive, while the other one was a TGV Duplex one! This happened due to a fatal crash in 2002 (and it was the only S-101 to carry the current RENFE livery), and now it's operating as an S-100 in the routes Madrid-Seville and Madrid-Alacant
1:20 Thibault saying Barcelona Sants Station looks like an airport.
Train stations in China: Hold my beer!
shops on the second floor and first floor is filled with shops and gates
hold my aero-trains*
Barcelona Sants station since 1970´s
China's station since 2005!
China's train stations are more spacious though, & they need to be because of greater flow separation there. To enter the station you have to have to go thru security & ID checks, & buying tickets requires an ID too (to combat scalping I think) (the ticket machines only accept domestic identity cards as IC, so if you aren't a local you have to Q at the ticket counters instead). Departing passengers are then lead to massive waiting halls above the platforms (different halls for different platforms in some stations), and passengers usually only go to the platforms via ticket validation gates when the train is arriving (probably why many photos you see of train station platforms in China are quite empty), with gates closing 3min before train departure. Arriving passengers meanwhile are led out of the station via a separate hall/concourse below the stations, so it's really like an airport where arriving & departing passengers are on different floors of the building. The train stations also often have taxi ranks & ramps/slip roads to drop-off & pick-up points (probably with the one for arriving passengers beneath the one for departing passengers)
@@lzh4950 2billion people vs 40million people
Imagine having to change bogies
This post is made by the Talgo gang
This meme was also made by CAF gang, also Spanish tech
Japan: Looks on in GCT (probably will be used for their new high-speed line between Fukuoka/Hakata & Nagasaki, with the existing line being relatively slow (~120km in 2h) because it hugs the coastline tightly while being sandwiched with mountains near the coast, so the line is quite winding)
@@lzh4950 The GCT was cancelled a few years ago and the Nagasaki shinkansen, which will be using 6 car N700S trains, is only running between Nagasaki and Takeo Onsen and will open in 2022, only 50 years after it was initially announced!
This video is very interesting, because it was one of the last Euromed services to use the old Barcelona-Tarragona railway line, which, after Tarragona, had few sections with single track only, Since 2020, Euromeds depart Barcelona-Sants as high speed services (therefore, in UIC platforms) travelling through the Barcelona-Madrid HSL until Camp de Tarragona. Only then, there is a change of gauge and the Euromed continues through a newly built Iberian-gauge section at 200 km/h (called Variante de Vandelós, which, in the near future, will also be modified to UIC) and before reaching Castelló it continues through the same railway line as seen in your video. Now, the trip is less scenic, and only 10 min quicker ( because changing gauges takes time and the HSL makes a slight detour; also, S-130 are only able to operate at 250 km/h because of a certain lack of space for brakes, due to the variable-gauge mechanisms, so they can’t fully benefit from 300 km/h lines) but the old line has now more room for regional and stopper trains, and some of the single track sections will be used to build a tram in the Salou-Tarragona region.
Exactly! Finding the Euromed in Sants is less confusing now, but the most beautiful views over Mediterranean in the Barcelona-Tarragona section (Cliffs of Garraf) are lost
I just found your channel last night from a recommended video YT suggested. So far I’ve watched a lot of your long trip content. It’s very calming and interesting to watch, especially with the lack of loud voice over. The meteor trip is the most fun I’ve seen so far, and I had no idea sleeper cars were that advanced now.
I've only travelled by RENFE once (Barcelona > Madrid > Algeciras) and I really enjoyed it. Staff were brilliant and it was very comfy. Hopefully I'll get to use them again this year or in 2022! Especially if the journey from Barcelona to Valencia has such amazing views :)
Your trip has to be one of the last (for Euromed services) on the classic line between Barcelona and Tarragona.
Also in january 2020, the new double line between Camp de Tarragona and Vandellòs opened, and the trains to València and Alicante started to use the high speed line between Barcelona (with extension to Figueres) and Camp de Tarragona. At south of Camp de Tarragona is the connexion line with new changing gauge facilities.
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SNCF doesn´t allow these trains on their network, only dedicated gauge ! Little distance for a gauge change ?
@@maedero05 Where you want them?
4:44 Renfe also uses the Series S-730, which are hybrid versions of this train. They were (and still are) very important for the connection between Madrid and Galicia during its transition from the old tracks to the new high speed ones (which will be ready soon). The trip starts on standard gauge high speed lines, it then continues on very old Iberian gauge unelectrified tracks and finishes with high speed lines again in Galicia, but this time Iberian gauge high speed lines. Talk about versatility!
It’s an Alvia! There is the S730 which is Hybrid and goes from Madrid over to Galicia, they can go up 250kmh so they are considered AVE trains. One famous anecdote about the alvias is the accident on 2013 in an S730. The main difference is that the S130 is Electric only and the 730 is Diesel and Electric (Hybrid). The 730 is designed for Alvia services to Galicia due to the unelectrified lines between Madrid and Ourense, wille the 130 is used in other services that had Electified Tracks.
The train is the s130, the service is Euromed. Alvia is a service, not the name of the train! :)
El tren es el s130, el servicio es Euromed. ¡Alvia es un servicio, no el nombre del tren! :)
@@sr.antonio6216 It is very similar Alvia to Euromed to AVE
This train is similar to the Alvia that you mention, but the ones operating Euromed service are not Hybrid. You can easily see it because it only hast two locos at the end of the trainset, and the hybrid version has 4, one in the front is the electric and after that, the diesel engine...
You’re right! Penn station and Barcelona-Sants do look strikingly similar on their underground areas.
Taipei train station is underground too but with fewer platforms (4 for HSR & normal speed/legacy railways each). It's also the only station I've been to where the platforms can be entered only via escalators from the concourse above in the platforms' middle section, while you can exit the platforms only via other escalators at both ends of the platform (which lead back to the same concourse)
Thus is way faster than the regional train that takes almost 5 hours xD
Well I live on spain so I can go to the talgo way faster than the regional train XDDD
Regional Express Barcelona a València
When I lived in Valencia I sometimes used the Regional train because a) the fare was cheaper and b) I could take my bicycle on it without fuss. It also stops at Cabanyal station in Valencia, which was five minutes walk from my flat, so that in a small way compensated for the longer journey time.
Only Russian trains go through bogie exchange except Strizh
Congrats on 140k subs man!
This video looks like it was taken pre COVID-19 because I didn't see anyone wearing a mask.
I remember being at this train station, trying to get to France. But there was flooding at the border. So we found this travel agency at the station and she booked a flight for us.
We really like Barcelona, having stayed there a number of times at the B Hotel.
pretty sure there was a caption towards the beginning stating that this was filmed in late 2019
You need to have this trip again. Starting January 2020, the service uses the high-speed line from Barcelona to Camp de Tarragona, and then you have the chance to see the gauge changer :)
Great video! I also got lost at Barcelona Sants when I was there. Glad it wasn't a newbie problem! I thoroughly enjoyed the AVE trains and service. Top notch!
I’m an international student here in the US, and I have a friend here that has a family in Valencia. If I make it there next year, I’ll take this train from Barcelona to Valencia. It seems a beautiful experience!
Great video, I lived in Valencia for four years (2004 to 2008) and really enjoyed using these trains when I went to visit my parents in Catalunya. The seats are revolved for each journey so most people face the direction of travel. I loved the way you could stand in the snack car and sip your coffee as the scenery slid by. Like you, I usually ddin't bother with the "auriculares" when they came through! By the way, Estacion de Francia is beautiful, well worth visiting. The seating colour never bothered me.
Hi from Denmark 🇩🇰. Traveling by train is my favorite way to move. I traveled across USA twice by Amtrak. Really nice experience. Thanks for recording this 👍
Soy de Valencia y te agradezco mucho por este video, he visto tu canal en sugerencias y me ha gustado !
The true Euromed Services were provided with Alstom TGV Class 101 trains, otherwise is just a common Talgo-like service. Usual travellers still miss the old TGV trains.
Really excellent trip and if you are wondering one of these trains got wrecked on July 24th 2013 Santiago de Compostela line. From what I can see looks like this train has the newer safety standards after that accident. Talgo 250 can use the Figures Villafant track 3 gauge changer possibly permitting direct Perpignan-Alicante service
There is no need to change gauge at Figueres, you can go from Barcelona to Perpignan on the standard gauge high speed line. This service is actually offered by AVE S100 and TGV Duplex with connections between Madrid and Paris.
If you want to go from Alicante, the gauge would be changed at Camp de Tarragona
When I saw the title, my first thought was 'a medical services train'
Then ironically the trains furnishings look like a hospital
I rode on that train earlier this year. Very smooth and comfortable in my opinion 💯🙏💪👍🤙👌👉
I like that the miniature photo of the video, an s130 in asturias, when your trip doesn’t pass trough asturias jajaja
My first impression was that the interior design looked a little dated, but with refurbishment coming soon, they should be re-invented as the amazing trains they were when they were first released.
The Talgo wagons are so short because they only have 1 separate axle, and not 2 on a bogie as "normal" trains do. So the wagons has to be much lighter, and the only way to solve that is to make them much shorter. They couldn't have a normal bogie to get the gauge changing mechanism to work.
They could, because the powercars have real bogies, and they change gauge too. But the other advantage of the Talgo coaches is the passive tilting mechanism, and low floor trough the train.
Love it! Although it's nice to have entertainment, I'd much rather look out the window, even though in this case it did not look particularly clean ...
Great video as always ! :)
Nice👌
You should try Portuguese trains
@Bob el Silencioso Maybe the Alfa Pendular
@Bob el Silencioso
Some of the trains are dirty, but they are all being renovated. Intercidades or Alfa are good and cheap to make a report
@Bob el Silencioso "Most"??! They might be old but not in "very bad condition", with the exception of Vouga, Oeste and Algarve line. Please gift yourself a railway tour in Portugal, you'll thank me later :)
I did this trip Barcelona-Alicante in preferente (First Class). From Valencia to Alicante , the train switches direction. On preference (First Class9, before covid times, you get two sandwiches with hot drinks and other drinks on the segment Barcelona-Valencia, and a full hot meal between Valencia to Alicante. Sometimes the price difference between both classes is less than 10 Euros, and apart from the meals the space between seats is even larger than in second class.
In a few years a new station will be the central in Barcelona, it's going to be called Barcelona La Sagrera.
The train I take bcn-castellón since i,m 5 years old. Thank u
The fact is that these talgo trains were nearly what the Amtrak cascades talgo series 6 sets were based on
They are 15 years old, due to a refurbishment soon. The interior will get a colour scheme & design update hopefully.
Is RENFE planning a refubishment?
@@tomaspalisek4824 no, S106 are going to be like 130, but faster, better and newer
@@chenchospotter8879 S106 are pure high speed though, at least for the forseeable future
@@danielr.l.mccullough600 As far as I know they’ll be using new S107 sets (the first of which entered service a week ago) hauled by a locomotive.
Love these.
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Great. Loved the video mate
ggreat video on the renfe euromed i love the mediterranean scenery AND ITS INTRESTING HOW THE TRAIN IS COMPATIBLE with both standard and iberian gauage but yh the interior does look a bit like hospital lol
Great video, thanks for sharing
Nice vedio . Thanks
*AMAZING* 🔥🔥🔥
Was booked on Barcelona-Valencia for a trip to Las Fallas last year ... the first day of the Spanish lockdown. In fairness, RENFE gave a full refund unprompted.
Thanks for this interesting report, as always with "Simply Railway". I'd just like to point out that it's "Catalonia" in English, not "Catalunya". Your trip reports from Germany are from Germany, not from "Deutschland", right, so those from Catalonia are - well, from Catalonia.
Thanks for the review👍
Great video like it very much .Take care & stay safe.
I feel like not knowing where to go is just a part of the experience of busy spanish train stations. Happened to me the one time I took a train in Atocha and the two times I took a train in Sants :D
@Bob el Silencioso I speak Spanish and understand some catalan but announcement is always a whole other level :D I just feel that the stations have confusing designs and not a whole lot of signs
I found Barcelona’s Sants station the least, let’s call it, “user friendly” of all main stations in Spain. Signage is alright, I can manage to get where I want, but the feeling of being cramped due to the low ceilings + lots of people makes it a stressful environment.
@Bob el Silencioso I have been to other stations, but only the only other larger ones where the two ones in Valencia and as terminusses these are a lot easier to navigate 😅 and I agree, stations in Germany are also sometimes quite confusing, especially those with two levels or parts, like Berlin
I live in Barcelona and I frequently wonder how foreigners feel about Sants station... well it seems that my fears were true.
It's a stressful and cramped station with a confusing layout and very unpleasant surroundings.
A project has just been announced to expand the station and refurbish the surrounding areas, let's hope it will improve the current state of it!
Super voyage !
From 2020, the old Tarragona -Valencia line along the coast is only open to Port Aventura (now "Salou-Port Aventura"). Both Cambrils and L'Hospitalet de L'Infant got their new stations on the newly built Mediterranean corridor from Camp de Tarragona. All Catalonia regional service beyond Tarragona have to use a single track link between Vila Seca and the new Mediterranean corridor. Things get very complicated, mixing new/old lines, standard/iberia gauges. Welcome to Spain! (to some, Catalonia)
Traveled from Valencia to Barcelona in 1981 on a overnight train.
10:40 this is not Castellón, is Tarragona
Oops. Thanks
Cool watch and strap at 5:49. Didn't realize thin was back in with young Europeans. Is that a Nomos? They specialize in really thin watches.
Wow! Gotta love the pre-Covid days...
Nice one Enjoyed a lot.
If you go to southeast asia you should try the eastern orient express which go between bangkok and singapore.If you ride train in thailand you should use the specail express cnr train because there the best.
Next time you're in the states, could you try the CapMet Red Line in Austin, TX? It's a 32-mile commuter/ light rail that runs from downtown Austin to Leander, using a Stadler GTW.
Great trip report
Molts Gracies guapo por haber compartido ese viaje que es de encanto. La vista desde la ventana del bar es estupenda ! Me enamoré del antiguo S-101 y su librea. Y llegaste a la ciudad mas linda del mundo ... Bue, me diste gana de comprarme el S-101 a la escala N, ... 😅
When you can, it would maybe be interesting to get a service that goes through the gauge change?
Great video, Thibault! Off topic, is there a French translation for 'thingy'? lol.
yup: machin
I have just come across your UA-cam channel. I have been really enjoying it, today I watched 4 of your episodes and liked each one. Seeing that you work for Alstom will you ever come to the province of Quebec to work on train cars (coaches) that will be built here? I’m happy to hear that you would like to take “The Canadian “ of VIVA Rail. In 1960 (I was 10 yrs. old) as a family of 5 we took not the “Canadian “ but the “Dominion” which went from Montreal Qc. to Vancouver BC.. Both these trains were run by the Canadian Pacific Railway which my father worked for. In those days “The Canadian “ was the more none stop train across Canada not stopping at all stations but only at major cities, where as the “Dominion” stopped at all stations and because of that took longer to reach Vancouver BC.. This was great for a kid of 10 and who was crazy about trains and still is. I enjoyed every minute of that trip! All the best in your endeavours and thanks for “Simply Railway”. Richard Littler
Yo también fui de Valencia a Barcelona con el tren cuando yo era pequeño!
After a recent High speed upgrade, the Euromed now uses a more inland alignment through Camp De Tarragona, and misses most of the coastline, as of mid 2020. 😞
1:56 I think very few stations are as easy to get lost into as Sants xd. Once inside, from any of the 2 entrances, the station looks the same. The metro map is outdated. The screens are small. It's like a labyrinth.
Only after like 3-4 times going there you can start figuring out where everything is, and there isn't really any kind of map either...
Is it just me, or does it seem like Thibault made this one a fair amount more choppy and fast? Seems as though it was rushed in order to not have it be too long, but it was very rough compared to his normal videos for me. Normally I can follow along and it's flow is just right, not too rushed/fast, and I can typically also read through the captions without needed to pause and skip back a few times in order to finish reading them. This time I had to pause and skip back a lot. I guess I would like to see how many others noticed this as well, because I can tell it's certainly different.
Do trains ever switch gauges while in service?
Yes, several services alternate between standard high speed lines and conventional spanish gauge lines through their journey.
@Bob el Silencioso: 5mins for the whole trainset? That's amazingly fast, pretty impressive!
Actually the gauge is changed while in motion. The train slows down to minimum speed and rolls through a special track section that has an automatic gauge-changing system. This can be done with passengers onboard and allows direct services across different gauges
@Bob el Silencioso: Damn, thanks for the links! That's pretty fast for gauge changing, barely any time at all (and definitely much less than needing to change trains!)
Russian Railways still use bogie exchange except Strizh
Boa viagem ai simply lindo trem ice show
Nice
The onboard music channels remind me of the early years of the ICE. But later Deutsche Bahn removed them, saying it was too costly to maintain the wiring, have someone put together changing programs and pay music royalties. And everybody has their own device anyway, be it mobile phone, tablet or laptop. They now offer WLAN with an onboard site showing among other things where the train is currently on the map.
In the 1990s some cars on ICE 1 even had a video programme on tiny flatscreens, I think choice between a movie, an infotainment programme and a channel for children. Inexplicably these screens were only offered in smoking cars.
Early gang!!!!
Il y a même des rames bimodes avec un bloc diesel : les 730.
This must have been filmed before corona, it's so weird to see people without facemasks now..
Yeah, so crowded and no masks. Completely normal a year ago, now it just seems like another world.
Spanish trains are so beautiful.
You should try the Alvia next
please, would yuo tell me how much is the ticket,
Thank you
compared to america, european trains are crazy good! I wish I had these trains in america...
Great review!
The Cascades service in the Pacific Northwest uses Talgo 8 sets, they just had their older Talgo 6 cars scrapped, they don't near as fast as the Euromed tho lol
Aside from the gauge-changing abilities, this is just a run of the mill 200 kph train, but I guess even that must seem like a dream to Americans at least outside the Northeast :o
@@stevenmontoya9950 thats the point, lol but true...
Although i live near the northeast regional and the amfleets in my area are meh...
As a European, I will say that the problem in America is not the trains, which, although old-fashioned, are comfortable and spacious. The problem is the infrastructure, that is the huge problem.
Not all trains in Europe are this good though... Even in Spain, these high speed services are just a drop in the ocean. Commuter and regional trains are a total wreck, and conventional long distance and night services are being gradually removed... :(
10:41 Castellón no... Tarragona, the best city in the world!!!!! ;)
Super widok 👍😘
Uwielbiam takie spacery i inne filmy niż moje 👌😊😘
A u mnie spacer po mieście 😊
Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Warszawy Polska 🇵🇱😘✋
Barcelona Sants definitely is based on Birmingham New Street 😂 The platforms give it a similar vibe
I have done this route from barcelona to alicante in perferente
What would you say is the best
High speed train. Regional train. And intercity train
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Hey, where do you get the train icons you use on the map at the beginning of your videos? I'd love to find good train diagrams like those
In the video you showed tarragona station, but you said it was castellon, Castellón is an underground station.
I like this videos (because is Barcelona XD)
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It's a shame that you didn't try this out 15 years ago, since Euromeds had much better Rolling stock, S101 (Iberian gauge S100s)
Wait a minute... Valencia is where I live!!!!! Also nice video on the Euromed train!!!!
Fun fact: in reality the Euromed service train the train is called Renfe alvia
Both Euromed and Alvia are just commercial service names. The train is called Series 130 by Renfe's standards
8:58 The old interior is awful but RENFE is refurbishing the s130 and the 730 (hybrid version)
5:51 run
Great review as usual !!! Regarding the noise inside... I don´t think it happens in the whole trainset... by some reason,(there´s probably a good reason for that), it usually happens in certain cars of the trainset. It happens in all Talgo trains as far as I experienced. On the other hand regarding what you mention in 4:19, High Speed trains (AVE, Euromed, Alvia) are not under 25K inside the stations... they change from 25K to 3K near the stations, so those trains are prepared for both voltages. NExt time you should visit Barcelona -Francia station, it´ll be more of your taste.. and everybody´s taste I guess :D
Umm nope... high speed stations have 25kV AC current too, why would it change? AVE trains can't even change to 3kV DC at all.
But I agree that Estació de França is much nicer than Sants
Is Alacant Spanish for Valencia?
Oops! Never mind I figured it out!
I thought Renfe had descontinued the Euromed service
Nope, just the train type was changed (as the video explains)
This guy can teleport anywhere.And he has monezz
The trip report was recorded in December 2019...
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Sants Station has always looked ugly and a little bit confusing to get by for me, happy to see I'm not the only one.
@Bob el Silencioso Yes, I hope they don't last much longer because it has been ages since they started the construction of La Sagrera.
China is developing a gauge changing high-speed train too!
Wait do they need one for their network? Is there anywhere within China where there's a change of gauge -(or is it for that really long journey with the freight trains from them to Europe)?-
[Edit: reading back, "high-speed" was mentioned!]
@@fetchstixRHD It's for international operation between China and Russia.
@@edisonz2006: Ah I see, that makes sense!
good job video i love barcelona i love train pls video czech republic
Why should train tickets prices be based on time? Shouldn't they be based on distance?