I was just saying this. The fact that she already looks so different just from their debut and even Illusion era is wild. The more they keep altering her face, it’s going to start to show. That’s a lot of surgery.
The nose job, eyelid surgeries are obvious but the procedures that really concern me is the facial reconstruction. The surgeons crossed too many lines here. Her natural heart-shaped face was already beautiful and unique. There was no need to make her face oval with a pointy chin, but in doing so they made her look unnatural because the degree to which her cheeks slim down to a sharp point at her chin was just so extreme. To fix that they had to shave her cheekbones and further alter her face. None of the original heart shape remained. Even naturally oval-faced people can’t have a chin as pointed as that. SM really screwed over the beauty standard by having her become the current 4th gen beauty standard when this type of beauty is just not obtainable without super invasive surgery. I'm surprised her face doesn't have any deformities through all that surgery.
true the reason they did that is to fit the concept of AI, if it was just a girl crush concept they wont need to do all this work... yea they totally ruin her natural girl next door look EVIL SM all they care about is MONEY fk they dont treat this girl like a human being smhhh
yes for other company, but not for sm. SM known for their unreal beauty, and AI like. For natural gergous is like JYP, and YG for unique and strong features. For SM, it is like they have their own blueprint.
She was already pretty before surgery but she looks unreal now. Probably the prettiest idol in her generation. It looks like she had her eyelids tweaked higher (suture method is enough for this but they probably cut it for precision), inner and outer epicanthoplasty, buccal fat removal, and her nose is likely an implant because of her nostrils but could also be fillers, her chin could also be an implant or fillers if she doesn't want anything permanent. I don't think she had her jaw done tbh, filling out the chin, botox, and fat loss makes a big difference. Also jaw surgery has way too many risks for a marginal 'upgrade'. Damn, I want SM's doctor's contact numbers 😂
@@illyuzioni think thats fat she's lost though, since gonial angle and ramus remain the same. she's lost more weight this year and honestly i didn't think it could happen but her face just got more v shaped so i think it's very dependant on her weight. the flat part may just be that her bite is properly aligned while now her jaw has recessed again into an overbite, plus botox for shaping her chin.
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personally i believe that karina didn’t get a jawshave since she still has her mandibular angle, which is what they shave off during surgery. instead, she got a chin shave, which personally was super unnecessary bc her jaw was literally the shape sm looks for. she’s super pretty now but the chin shave kind of throws off her facial balance. on top of this, she also cut her inner eye corners; you can see the pink part of her eye more clearly. btw this is no hate !! she’s my bias in aespa and i believe she could of debuted with her original face bc she was an ulzzang even before debut + personally all her predebuts are gorgeous to me ^_^
the chin modification is real square to V pretty obvious anyways they all did ps and the best result was selected for aespa because of AI concept the other didnt get selected probably after ps look too human still
@@user-eu3pf5hc2c that's not really how it works though? they all have to keep the ramus, it's an essential part of their jaw, but the length and angle can change with surgery. they can either split the jaw and reposition the ramus, or shave down the length of the ramus, which will give the impression of a rounded/smooth mandible (eg. taeyeon or wendy). karina's ramus and mandibular angle have stayed consistent through her predebuts, maintaining a short ramus and high angled jaw, but doesn't have the rounded characteristic of a jaw shave. her jaw has overall healthy development aside from maybe an overbite, which is probably contributing to the uncanny valley effect.
@PoLe-dt5ov i'm honestly leaning towards jawtox + weight loss + she didn't wear her retainers lol. she got her braces off around middle school or high school, and thats why her yearbook photos then seem a bit more balanced. now, it seems like her jaw position has recessed a bit; she has a slight overbite, so it can make her jaw look shorter. ++ i'm saying this as someone with an uncanny valley jawline, but the power of wearing your retainers is seriously crazy... she makes me want to wear mine lol considering she's said on fancalls that she needs to get braces again, i'm pretty sure it's for her overbite/her jaw
im sorry i dont really think she got jaw shaved tho. she already got that v shape and pointed chin since elementary school. i think she just got either buccal fat or botox. since many idols went to that and people saying they got heavy surgery
She's so pretty, honestly Karina already had a double eyelid, you don't need surgery to correct your eyelid shape if you already have double eyelid especially when you're young. I fix my eye lids after crying so much that it gets swollen the next day then I have something hold where i want the crease to form once the swelling goes down. Takes the whole day though but that's how i even out my double eye lids and fix or change its shape after crying it'll stay like this forever unless you make it swollen again. Karina is also super young.. your face becomes a bit more structured once you get older and lose baby fat. I look nothing like my child pictures and i have never done any surgery my cheekbones and jawline are more prominent now around 18-23 you start seeing changes. Karina still looks like her child pictures. I don't think she did a lot of changes personally. Maybe only the nose bridge to remove the bump and chin filler (addition) for a sharper v line. She still looks amazing
Nah, she would’ve looked amazing if she kept her face shape and just did a fat removal. She looks strange because of her severe v jaw, her features itself are pretty.
Yes! Thank you for this video! As a naturalized Asian-American man, I hate it when Kpop/Kdrama fans act like their idols didn't get any plastic surgery. Who's delusional?
AKMU Suhyun and her brother Chanhyuk are one of the few idols who didn't have any plastic surgery, I think... but they are always called ugly ever since their predebut.
I think brows make a huge difference too. It changes the whole expression and also it changes the look of the face structure, so the surgeries might not be as drastic as it seems. The biggest difference I see is the eye and brow area. Also I'm obsessed with her previous look it's so unique while her current look is unreal. Both are amazing
They really need to stop forcing her to have surgery. SM has a condition for most debut line trainees that they HAVE to get surgery to be allowed to debut. They didn’t have to do so much… she already for the concept for Aespa, all they had to do was let her face mature a little more, they didn’t need to go heavy handed with the blade like that
@@amy_ambrosio Definitely not - the vast majority of SM’s PS is so subtle it doesn’t look like PS. It’s only in a few rare cases that it’s overdone (such as Aespa, Taeyeon and Wendy, namely). It’s the same with every single other company though. Hybe has Sakura (brand new face), Enhypen, Eunchae and half of TXT who all have the fakest looking noses in the industry. YG has BP, Lisa and Rose have new faces too. JYP have Stray Kids (again, half of which look straight out of uncanny valley like Hyunjin, Felix, Chan and Changbin) as well as Itzy (love Chaeryeong but she also has a new face and has evidently tampered with every single feature) and also NMIXX with poor Lily’s botched nose. Plus idols from even smaller companies who have also had obvious work done because the companies can’t afford better PS, basically. Ultimately - almost every single idol has had work done both in SM and in other companies (in fact, I can only name a handful of idols I think might genuinely be natural, and a few of those are actually from SM) and it’s not even close to only SM’s condition of needing PS before debuting idols.
She's has unbelievable glow up or she's does some plastic surgery because she's need to do plastic surgery, she's become a K-Pop idol singer and then she's really need to same with Korean beauty stranded we haven't sure information
whoever did her chin surgery (whatever that called) needs to get fired. like, since she is considered one of the most beautiful 4th gen girls, i try to find her visuals beautiful but her chin/jawline just made it difficult, her before surgery face shape is prettier than that. she does look pretty with bangs though but if we leave that, she never stands out to me as the most beautiful aespa member. she is insanely talented though, definitely one of the most talented k-pop idol, she is cute, i just don't find her that gorgeous as she is hyped.
I think reshaping her eyebrows made a huge difference too. But she was already a beautiful girl! So either way she looks stunning and is definitely a show stopper😊
That's ridiculous and also horrifying. She was gorgeous and had a unique fresh look, already fitting korean beauty standards. She's still beautiful now, but she had to change nearly every facial feature. SM Entertainment is insane.
Her face before surgery kinda reminds me of another person tbh . Like I've seen that face before , but I'm not sure where ( either kdrama/kmovie or any other entertainment segment like other kpop idols ) , or it's just accumulation of my own experience ( all girls faces I've been saw so far , either from fiction nor real life 😂 )
They changed her to fit the group's concept. Made her look ai-ish. She's always been pretty but most of her old features are gone thats why her predebut pics appears very different from what we see today. Every idol had undergone major and minor surgeries to look perfect. It takes a lot of effort to look effortlessly beautiful. Its part of their job. I think instead of focusing on the changes they do to achieve that level of beauty i hope people just focus on their talent and their admirable qualities. ❤
I don't care about plastic surgery basically the whole industry got it. Like you said, she was already beautiful before surgery. As long as she's happy and healthy it's ok
to be a idol means you're a product to be idolized while try win some money to ur agency, it means be judged by the industry public and the entire society that creates a standard, it means fight on competition, win opportunities, beauty isn't enough to be idol but it matters a lot because they evaluate their structure a lot to have an idol image and sell better when even Korean society it's so critical, means lies for the good business, means win position to be accepted inside of this dark industry, after all the fame is not eternal but you left a mark impression of your own. Now you can think in philosophies into an "art of being an idol", we doesn't know enough but indeed this reality is cruel. How to be ideal? to be an idol?
There is nothing wrong with getting ps done. Personally i think the eye surgery enchased her beauty, the nose job was a bit unnecessary as i believe her previous nose was already pretty but result doesn’t look bad either, the only ps here that i dislike it the jaw/chin surgery. You can’t tell in these pictures both her jaw and chin looks so small compared to the top of her face, it towards the balance off, her face just looks so weird because of it, i can never unsee it when i look at her. Her previous face already looked v-shaped so that surgery was definitely unnecessary and overdone.
Lol all idol did surgery, not only her. But the result of her surgery turn out to be 10000 out of 10. Visual that make you in Awe everytime you look at her. Sorry if the facts hurt you.
Yup all these people thinking she was bueatiful back then when she started plastic surgery at a young age. It’s so sad how Koreans feel the need to get plastic surgery just to fit the standards
ngl she still looks nearly the same even with PS and she is and was always beautiful💗 her lower face structure was very narrow even before lol the only main difference really is that she now looks more like an Ai(no offence lol she is my bias) Edit: btw unrelated but used to find her v shaped jawline unrealistic b4 but now i dont rly find it that unrealistic it looks pretty natural actually i guess the kain rsn it looks unrealistic is also bcs her head size is naturally incredibly tiny and maybe bcs my besties have more narrower vjaw than hers like srsly
she looks insanely different to me. In fact the inly reason im here is because i saw a picture that said “karina pre-debut” and i didnt believe it. shiet
In Korea, the legal age for PS is 16 and at that time she was in SM also 16 age can only do eyelid and lip as per legal laws And she was known as ulzzang before joining SM
Let me start by saying I'm a MY, and I'm not judging any of the girls whether they have or haven't had cosmetic surgery. I'm thinking Karina got a blepharoplasty. Essentially, you remove excess fat from the eyelid, giving more depth to the eye area and more lid space. You could argue this doesn't really count as ps because there's no reconstruction of the face, added with the fact that a lot of older folk get this procedure for non-cosmetic reasons. As you age, your eyelids droop and can actually (for some people) impair your vision, making it a medical necessity. Karina's always had double eyelids just based on the predebut pictures here. Also want to note that jaw reduction procedures can be done inside the mouth to avoid obvious scarring. There are definitely high-risk jaw procedures, don't get me wrong, but it's possible this isn't as dangerous as a traditional jaw reduction. At least, I hope it isn't.
Karina is beautiful before and now, the fact that they say that she had surgery on her entire face is really unheard of because she has the same features as before and the size of her face, what you can notice is that she only had her eyelids done like every Korean does. , the rest was simply a physical change due to the baby's age and loss of fat. I see pure envy in the comments assuming something they don't even know. ridiculous
I'd never understand korea's need for plastic surgery. Why can't they accept themselves the way they are. They'd find flaws in a naturally beautiful face and try to fix something that doesn't require fixing.
Btw, they also do the same for extreme diets and often develop eating dis0rders from starving themselves, just to achieve a perfect body (very thin/skinny).... when they were already PERFECTLY HEALTHY before, neither underweight nor overweight. Just a bit fatter/thicker, but healthy. The truth is they don't care about "healthy". They just strive to look perfect, skinny and pale. Not health, just superficial/shallow beauty.
Some, yeah probably, but a lot of it is shading make-up. She already had the top crease in her eyelids. The bottom line can be done with make-up. She looks like her bottom eyelid is actually smaller. You can't discount the effect of puberty either. The jawline can be done surgically. I sure wouldn't do it. Sounds dangerous! Tgey all had their "Wisdom Teeth" out at the same time. An old trick is to pull a few extra to make the cheeks smaller. I have to disagree on the eyes. Take a look at her without make-up, and look at her REAL kiddie pictures, not some Google look alike. Big changes also can be made with weight and body fluid control. That's why Jennie won't eat salt before a photo shoot. They definitely have better surgeons in Korea than they do in Hollywood! I'm finding hard to find a celebrity who hasn't had something done.
Yeah, SM Ent sure know tye bwst surgens oit there...just look at Girls generation before and after...most of them were transformed and very beautifully indeed...i got to say i admire they can have such great results
Na but plastic surgery was necessary u can't survive in South korea with average looks u need to be extremely beautiful and if it comes to South Korea's entertainment industry then it is a living hell so yeah SM did the right Choice and saved her from people talking bad things about her looks
Her face is surgery but her body isn’t and guy if u wanna surgery am here to support ( ure just surgery u dun do anything harm ppl so do what u want ) anyway I wanna say her personality nice n good than ppl who here to hate others
I don’t think she did facial reconstruction. The one thing Karina always said and still says she is proud of is her v line shape jaw. That girl did not get surgery for that.. guys u will be SHOCKED when u see what camera does to East asian faces.. depending on the angle it can look very narrow vs. not so much. Also losing 10-lbs makes a BIG difference on face. The reason is because East Asians tend to have smaller eyes (I’m talking about the double eyelid and depth of the eye socket) so it’s “less filling up” the space on facial canvas. So just a slight bad angle can make the face look wider, especially at the chin and jaw area. If u look at old karina, just cover her eyebrows and she basically looks the same as now. I think she may have had nose filler and yes maybe double eyelid correction surgery as well.
So she naturally pretty before and now became an ai after 💀
well shes got nose to emphasize, before she got that the ai faces already there. just like taeyong
Yea 💀
Damn💀
She already was a gorgeous woman. Then she turned to an AI
exactly
4 -> 6
SM's fault. It's sad because they make all their artist look the same and take away their individuality: Karina, Winter, Taeyeon, Wendy, etc.
(No hate)her face nothing look like AI
@@evap.5121true
I really like her eyes before the surgery
same.. they sorta freak me out seeing them without contacts. her irises look so piercingly small because of the eyelid surgery 😭
@@ice-us8ji i feel attacked💀
samee
And?
she looked cuter, now she looks hotter🥵
After those surgeries it is obvious that she undergone another ones cause her face looks completely different from Mamba era
I was just saying this. The fact that she already looks so different just from their debut and even Illusion era is wild. The more they keep altering her face, it’s going to start to show. That’s a lot of surgery.
I feel like every comeback her face changes and that’s really concerning, during spicy era i couldn’t recognize her because of how small her chin was.
@@yukiio17Maybe she continuously use fillers in the cheeks and nose area? Idk but every era her face changes..
Wait really? Didnt notice that
@@lavendertokkiiher face will be so stiff like taeyeon and bom 💀
The nose job, eyelid surgeries are obvious but the procedures that really concern me is the facial reconstruction. The surgeons crossed too many lines here. Her natural heart-shaped face was already beautiful and unique. There was no need to make her face oval with a pointy chin, but in doing so they made her look unnatural because the degree to which her cheeks slim down to a sharp point at her chin was just so extreme. To fix that they had to shave her cheekbones and further alter her face. None of the original heart shape remained. Even naturally oval-faced people can’t have a chin as pointed as that.
SM really screwed over the beauty standard by having her become the current 4th gen beauty standard when this type of beauty is just not obtainable without super invasive surgery. I'm surprised her face doesn't have any deformities through all that surgery.
true the reason they did that is to fit the concept of AI, if it was just a girl crush concept they wont need to do all this work... yea they totally ruin her natural girl next door look EVIL SM all they care about is MONEY fk they dont treat this girl like a human being smhhh
Same, I think they did overdo it with the chin. I naturally have an oval shape face but even my chin doesn't look like that.
@@SacredSacral yes, a good plastic surgeon would make it look natural. It's really upsetting. she probably had no say in a lot of it.
I'm Karina bias, but sir you're really spot on.
Right, if only tweaks are made... 😓
Wow but she was pretty before surgery
yessss
sadly yes
That's why she's the ulzzang on her school before
@@ihavaepotaetoe2418 if she was considered pretty then she wouldn't go under the knife
this is honestly terrifying. they practically removed half her face.
First day in kpop buddy? 💀😭
typical SM and their severe hatred of JAW, don’t be surprised seeing Taeyeon, Yoona and Winter before and after
Bruh it not only her
Lisa removed her whole face and got a new one
no? she's recognizable
That v shape trend is going to far on my opinion. Like they look like caricature aliens
Да! Мне всегда острые подбородки не нравились, но в Корее другие стандарты😅
she even has beautifull lips. her lips is fill and make a heart shape
Fillers
She always had nice lips can’t u see the photos😊
@@midnightcity2591lol her lips didn’t change
She was already pretty enough to be an idol at whichever company she wanted.
She could have been the visual anywhere else, without surgery
FR
yes for other company, but not for sm. SM known for their unreal beauty, and AI like. For natural gergous is like JYP, and YG for unique and strong features. For SM, it is like they have their own blueprint.
Stop lie..
@@irenegyu7949Yoona had a generic beauty though
She was already pretty before surgery but she looks unreal now. Probably the prettiest idol in her generation. It looks like she had her eyelids tweaked higher (suture method is enough for this but they probably cut it for precision), inner and outer epicanthoplasty, buccal fat removal, and her nose is likely an implant because of her nostrils but could also be fillers, her chin could also be an implant or fillers if she doesn't want anything permanent. I don't think she had her jaw done tbh, filling out the chin, botox, and fat loss makes a big difference. Also jaw surgery has way too many risks for a marginal 'upgrade'.
Damn, I want SM's doctor's contact numbers 😂
dude, the jaw is too obvious, shaved a lot😂 but yes she isstill pretty but for me Ning is theprettiest not just in aespa❤
she honestly looked way better before the surgery
are you kidding? her jaw is the one thing that makes me uneasy. its so weird how small head looks because of it. just disturbing idk 🥲
Her jawline looks more flat vshaped than before b4 it was more rounded even though gonial angle is same
@@illyuzioni think thats fat she's lost though, since gonial angle and ramus remain the same. she's lost more weight this year and honestly i didn't think it could happen but her face just got more v shaped so i think it's very dependant on her weight. the flat part may just be that her bite is properly aligned while now her jaw has recessed again into an overbite, plus botox for shaping her chin.
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Sungguh disayangkan 😥
All member are looks unreal
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She really didn't have to take that route... She's already naturally beautiful!!!!
Foreigners don’t know that 90% of Korean women get plastic surgery. 😂
What about my bahiyihh
@@roarrristshe's half white, so she already is kinda beautiful ngl
ya
@@student-.. she is fr, but whoa lets make things clear white =/= pretty
South Korea is known for plastic surgery. I think most people already know it since a long time
personally i believe that karina didn’t get a jawshave since she still has her mandibular angle, which is what they shave off during surgery. instead, she got a chin shave, which personally was super unnecessary bc her jaw was literally the shape sm looks for. she’s super pretty now but the chin shave kind of throws off her facial balance. on top of this, she also cut her inner eye corners; you can see the pink part of her eye more clearly.
btw this is no hate !! she’s my bias in aespa and i believe she could of debuted with her original face bc she was an ulzzang even before debut + personally all her predebuts are gorgeous to me ^_^
I definitely agree. She looks so uncanny because they made her chin so small. She’s still gorgeous, but it’s kind of scary when she pops up tbh
the chin modification is real square to V pretty obvious anyways they all did ps and the best result was selected for aespa because of AI concept the other didnt get selected probably after ps look too human still
No, you can choose whether you keep your ramus bone or shave it. So it's not really a way of saying if someone had bone shaping surgery or no.
@@user-eu3pf5hc2c that's not really how it works though? they all have to keep the ramus, it's an essential part of their jaw, but the length and angle can change with surgery. they can either split the jaw and reposition the ramus, or shave down the length of the ramus, which will give the impression of a rounded/smooth mandible (eg. taeyeon or wendy).
karina's ramus and mandibular angle have stayed consistent through her predebuts, maintaining a short ramus and high angled jaw, but doesn't have the rounded characteristic of a jaw shave. her jaw has overall healthy development aside from maybe an overbite, which is probably contributing to the uncanny valley effect.
@PoLe-dt5ov i'm honestly leaning towards jawtox + weight loss + she didn't wear her retainers lol. she got her braces off around middle school or high school, and thats why her yearbook photos then seem a bit more balanced. now, it seems like her jaw position has recessed a bit; she has a slight overbite, so it can make her jaw look shorter.
++ i'm saying this as someone with an uncanny valley jawline, but the power of wearing your retainers is seriously crazy... she makes me want to wear mine lol considering she's said on fancalls that she needs to get braces again, i'm pretty sure it's for her overbite/her jaw
I like her before face before debut. The jaw shaved was too much, it's made her look uncanny.
im sorry i dont really think she got jaw shaved tho. she already got that v shape and pointed chin since elementary school. i think she just got either buccal fat or botox. since many idols went to that and people saying they got heavy surgery
She's so pretty, honestly Karina already had a double eyelid, you don't need surgery to correct your eyelid shape if you already have double eyelid especially when you're young.
I fix my eye lids after crying so much that it gets swollen the next day then I have something hold where i want the crease to form once the swelling goes down. Takes the whole day though but that's how i even out my double eye lids and fix or change its shape after crying it'll stay like this forever unless you make it swollen again.
Karina is also super young.. your face becomes a bit more structured once you get older and lose baby fat. I look nothing like my child pictures and i have never done any surgery my cheekbones and jawline are more prominent now around 18-23 you start seeing changes. Karina still looks like her child pictures.
I don't think she did a lot of changes personally. Maybe only the nose bridge to remove the bump and chin filler (addition) for a sharper v line. She still looks amazing
i need to find the SM surgeon's name i swear
She looked so much better before 😢
No
yep… now she just looks fake
exactly
Nah, she would’ve looked amazing if she kept her face shape and just did a fat removal. She looks strange because of her severe v jaw, her features itself are pretty.
Isa from StayC looks alike pre-debut Karina btw
Yes! Thank you for this video! As a naturalized Asian-American man, I hate it when Kpop/Kdrama fans act like their idols didn't get any plastic surgery. Who's delusional?
Well some people haven’t and people still think they did so u can’t really know unless they tell u
That's normal being a kpop idol these days so I admired those who are less undergone to this kinda things natural beauty is the best
AKMU Suhyun and her brother Chanhyuk are one of the few idols who didn't have any plastic surgery, I think... but they are always called ugly ever since their predebut.
@@chrispy3021you forgot daesung or did he do eyelid surgery? Dont forget jisoo jennie felix suzy, they are few idols who didnt do ps.
I think brows make a huge difference too. It changes the whole expression and also it changes the look of the face structure, so the surgeries might not be as drastic as it seems. The biggest difference I see is the eye and brow area. Also I'm obsessed with her previous look it's so unique while her current look is unreal. Both are amazing
sm doesn't. forcing ps is unacceptable and it makes idols think they're ugly
She got the best plastic surgeon
Wonyoung would disagree with you.
I think not
Her face without surgery is beautiful. However, her face after surgery is superstar. ❤❤❤❤❤
What they did to her jaw was criminal 💀 her original face shape was so pretty already 🥲
She always had v shape tho and she was ALWAYS beautiful enough to be an idol. She’s beautiful with or without uh enhancements.
They really need to stop forcing her to have surgery. SM has a condition for most debut line trainees that they HAVE to get surgery to be allowed to debut. They didn’t have to do so much… she already for the concept for Aespa, all they had to do was let her face mature a little more, they didn’t need to go heavy handed with the blade like that
Every single company will push their rookies to have some degree of surgery if they deem it necessary to enhance or improve their looks. Not just SM.
@@katr_i_na true, but SM does it the most evidently
@@amy_ambrosio Definitely not - the vast majority of SM’s PS is so subtle it doesn’t look like PS. It’s only in a few rare cases that it’s overdone (such as Aespa, Taeyeon and Wendy, namely). It’s the same with every single other company though. Hybe has Sakura (brand new face), Enhypen, Eunchae and half of TXT who all have the fakest looking noses in the industry. YG has BP, Lisa and Rose have new faces too. JYP have Stray Kids (again, half of which look straight out of uncanny valley like Hyunjin, Felix, Chan and Changbin) as well as Itzy (love Chaeryeong but she also has a new face and has evidently tampered with every single feature) and also NMIXX with poor Lily’s botched nose.
Plus idols from even smaller companies who have also had obvious work done because the companies can’t afford better PS, basically. Ultimately - almost every single idol has had work done both in SM and in other companies (in fact, I can only name a handful of idols I think might genuinely be natural, and a few of those are actually from SM) and it’s not even close to only SM’s condition of needing PS before debuting idols.
@@katr_i_na correct me if I’m wrong but I saw TXT predebut pics all of them look pretty much the same ? Except for taehyun maybe
She's has unbelievable glow up or she's does some plastic surgery because she's need to do plastic surgery, she's become a K-Pop idol singer and then she's really need to same with Korean beauty stranded we haven't sure information
It's obvious she had stuff done. She looks like she has no more chin.
What
She looks beautiful no matter if she had surgery or not
I think that in some situations it could also change because of the age, like, she has lost her teenage lines (or whatever it is called)
Tbh not gonna lie she deffinately turned into something she was not
whoever did her chin surgery (whatever that called) needs to get fired. like, since she is considered one of the most beautiful 4th gen girls, i try to find her visuals beautiful but her chin/jawline just made it difficult, her before surgery face shape is prettier than that. she does look pretty with bangs though but if we leave that, she never stands out to me as the most beautiful aespa member. she is insanely talented though, definitely one of the most talented k-pop idol, she is cute, i just don't find her that gorgeous as she is hyped.
It made her face longer like to make it look slimer
Looks fine to me
I think reshaping her eyebrows made a huge difference too. But she was already a beautiful girl! So either way she looks stunning and is definitely a show stopper😊
That's ridiculous and also horrifying. She was gorgeous and had a unique fresh look, already fitting korean beauty standards. She's still beautiful now, but she had to change nearly every facial feature. SM Entertainment is insane.
At this point only sullyoon is the visual i can trust
She got ps too bruh her eyes for sure lol everybody in kpop except maybe cha eun woo had done surgery
BRUH,I HATE THAT KPOP STANS HATE EVERY DETAIL OF IDOLS,LIKE SOME 'KPOP STANS" REALLY GET ON MY NERVES FOR NOTICING EVERY DETAIL
I love this angel whether she has surgery or not ❤
Bahkan sebelum surgery udah cantikk bgt 🥺 manis dan cutie gitu, keliatan natural bgt
She is pretty
Her face before surgery kinda reminds me of another person tbh .
Like I've seen that face before , but I'm not sure where ( either kdrama/kmovie or any other entertainment segment like other kpop idols ) , or it's just accumulation of my own experience ( all girls faces I've been saw so far , either from fiction nor real life 😂 )
She was also pretty before! A creature of God ✅️
Isa from StayC looks alike pre-debut Karina❤
I really love her face before debut but it's her choices ❤
Sm choice
She was perfect before. There was no need to do all this!
They changed her to fit the group's concept. Made her look ai-ish. She's always been pretty but most of her old features are gone thats why her predebut pics appears very different from what we see today. Every idol had undergone major and minor surgeries to look perfect. It takes a lot of effort to look effortlessly beautiful. Its part of their job. I think instead of focusing on the changes they do to achieve that level of beauty i hope people just focus on their talent and their admirable qualities. ❤
I care the result as long its not very drastic like gender change surgery, i dont really care the rest .. Karina is phenomenal..
I pray they don’t cause her to have body dysmorphia ❤ She was born naturally beautiful young woman & remains pretty. Needs no further surgeries.
I don't care about plastic surgery basically the whole industry got it. Like you said, she was already beautiful before surgery. As long as she's happy and healthy it's ok
She looks even more beautiful before the surgery 😢
to be a idol means you're a product to be idolized while try win some money to ur agency, it means be judged by the industry public and the entire society that creates a standard, it means fight on competition, win opportunities, beauty isn't enough to be idol but it matters a lot because they evaluate their structure a lot to have an idol image and sell better when even Korean society it's so critical, means lies for the good business, means win position to be accepted inside of this dark industry, after all the fame is not eternal but you left a mark impression of your own. Now you can think in philosophies into an "art of being an idol", we doesn't know enough but indeed this reality is cruel. How to be ideal? to be an idol?
the anime: Oshi no Ko,
explains a lot about this and if you read manga you take details too, the most content is inspired from real life
When you get older your features become more sharpen and prominent it's a fact (take and example of babies they all have flat feature when born)
There is nothing wrong with getting ps done. Personally i think the eye surgery enchased her beauty, the nose job was a bit unnecessary as i believe her previous nose was already pretty but result doesn’t look bad either, the only ps here that i dislike it the jaw/chin surgery. You can’t tell in these pictures both her jaw and chin looks so small compared to the top of her face, it towards the balance off, her face just looks so weird because of it, i can never unsee it when i look at her. Her previous face already looked v-shaped so that surgery was definitely unnecessary and overdone.
even her lips was already beautiful, she was already a pretty girl. the surgery is just to make it more obvious
She was very pretty before, but she still is. At least they did a good job and didn't make it worse. Her AI look is pretty cool.
Wonyoung gets hate for plastic surgery 😐
Karina gets praised for plastic surgery
Your gonna act like she wasn't dragged by netizens for years (and still is) for her "extreme plastic surgery"
She was never praised..
@@Jenorationn well, from every video ive seen, she is.
I need her surgeon seriously
I’m obsessed with her
Black mamba karina was the prettiest tbh. Now she doesn't look human it's a shame
Lol all idol did surgery, not only her. But the result of her surgery turn out to be 10000 out of 10. Visual that make you in Awe everytime you look at her. Sorry if the facts hurt you.
Lol, that "predebut" was also after plastic surgery
LOL de que mrd hablas??? Esa siempre a sido karina deja de alucinar las demás son puras fotos falsas.
Yup all these people thinking she was bueatiful back then when she started plastic surgery at a young age. It’s so sad how Koreans feel the need to get plastic surgery just to fit the standards
no it wasn’t. people being naturally pretty must be a foreign concept to you.
@@starbursting You can tell she’s already had her nose done by her high school pics 💀 not uncommon at all either
Wtf no
She was just soo beautiful before ps i really hate that most celebs have to go through these procedures no matter what 😢
This is such a HUGE change. I can’t see her past face on her at all 😢
Shes pretty before but after surgery why looks weird 👀
Because that’s what olastic shrgery does to you
too much plastic surgery makes people look too unnatural
@@henloworld514 it's bcse of make up and edit lol ,the pic comparing with full make up
weird?? She still looks normal lol , go see her pic without make up
@@triplesss7475 be fr. most of not all kpop idols get some form of surgery or fillers because of how critical the industry and public are.
ngl she still looks nearly the same even with PS and she is and was always beautiful💗 her lower face structure was very narrow even before lol
the only main difference really is that she now looks more like an Ai(no offence lol she is my bias)
Edit: btw unrelated but used to find her v shaped jawline unrealistic b4 but now i dont rly find it that unrealistic it looks pretty natural actually i guess the kain rsn it looks unrealistic is also bcs her head size is naturally incredibly tiny and maybe bcs my besties have more narrower vjaw than hers like srsly
she looks insanely different to me. In fact the inly reason im here is because i saw a picture that said “karina pre-debut” and i didnt believe it. shiet
You can see her without make up..... She really looks like before debut
Her nose the magic of makeup
But no for her jaw
No amount of makeup can bring the nose bridge higher from the side profile
You can also see her nose looked bigger when she smiled but not after the surgery the size was definitely changed
@@oogaboogassKarina didn't have plastic surgery There's a picture angle, but there's no one who doesn't have such a simple comparison
Yea but u can see her nose got straighten
Beautiful before and after
she is a former ulzzang
I’m the only one who looks at her and doesn’t see her beautiful
Ok good for you 💀👍
Ok and?
Karina's debut photos are on average over 17 years old, while in Korea, at the age of 15, she can do plastic surgery.
In Korea, the legal age for PS is 16 and at that time she was in SM also 16 age can only do eyelid and lip as per legal laws
And she was known as ulzzang before joining SM
@@yuqi_cottage333 There is no minimum age for PS in SK. Karina 100% got her first PS in school, before becoming an ulzzang.
@@katr_i_nafake news you You don't know anything. You don'😂
@@robertlewandowski7043 you good bro? 💀
The point is, even the surgeries can fix you, you need to be pretty first yo get the best result.
Kinda true. But she shouldn't have to get plastic surgery to be beautiful, since she was already beautiful/perfect BEFORE in the first place...
Let me start by saying I'm a MY, and I'm not judging any of the girls whether they have or haven't had cosmetic surgery.
I'm thinking Karina got a blepharoplasty. Essentially, you remove excess fat from the eyelid, giving more depth to the eye area and more lid space. You could argue this doesn't really count as ps because there's no reconstruction of the face, added with the fact that a lot of older folk get this procedure for non-cosmetic reasons. As you age, your eyelids droop and can actually (for some people) impair your vision, making it a medical necessity. Karina's always had double eyelids just based on the predebut pictures here.
Also want to note that jaw reduction procedures can be done inside the mouth to avoid obvious scarring. There are definitely high-risk jaw procedures, don't get me wrong, but it's possible this isn't as dangerous as a traditional jaw reduction. At least, I hope it isn't.
Karina is beautiful before and now, the fact that they say that she had surgery on her entire face is really unheard of because she has the same features as before and the size of her face, what you can notice is that she only had her eyelids done like every Korean does. , the rest was simply a physical change due to the baby's age and loss of fat. I see pure envy in the comments assuming something they don't even know. ridiculous
Her lips definitely change too. It's more plumper & pouty now
She is pretty , no surgery
She was already beautiful
No need it to become plastic
I'd never understand korea's need for plastic surgery. Why can't they accept themselves the way they are. They'd find flaws in a naturally beautiful face and try to fix something that doesn't require fixing.
Bc they are perfectionists (too perfect = unrealistic = toxic/unhealthy)
Btw, they also do the same for extreme diets and often develop eating dis0rders from starving themselves, just to achieve a perfect body (very thin/skinny).... when they were already PERFECTLY HEALTHY before, neither underweight nor overweight. Just a bit fatter/thicker, but healthy.
The truth is they don't care about "healthy". They just strive to look perfect, skinny and pale. Not health, just superficial/shallow beauty.
We should thank her for undergoing surgery so that we can enjoy her crazy visual right now!! I love her look chigum i sunggan!!😂
her transformation is crazy. now she is perfect 😂
Honestly she was prettier b4 surgery they made her look like an alien
Some, yeah probably, but a lot of it is shading make-up. She already had the top crease in her eyelids. The bottom line can be done with make-up. She looks like her bottom eyelid is actually smaller. You can't discount the effect of puberty either. The jawline can be done surgically. I sure wouldn't do it. Sounds dangerous! Tgey all had their "Wisdom Teeth" out at the same time. An old trick is to pull a few extra to make the cheeks smaller. I have to disagree on the eyes. Take a look at her without make-up, and look at her REAL kiddie pictures, not some Google look alike. Big changes also can be made with weight and body fluid control. That's why Jennie won't eat salt before a photo shoot. They definitely have better surgeons in Korea than they do in Hollywood! I'm finding hard to find a celebrity who hasn't had something done.
She pretty much looks the same without make-up. I call foul.
Karina has always been beautiful ❤❤❤
It was unnecessariy bc she was so cute even back than
그녀의 비교 대상 사진이 중학생때인것을 인지해야함. 지금도 화장을 지우면 다시 데뷔때 모습으로 변함. 하지만 데뷔때 살짝 교정한 것은 맞는 것 같다. 그래도 어렸을때도 예뻤어.
Y'all aren't ugly, y'all are just broke
She was never ugly and stop calling people ugly
Yeah, SM Ent sure know tye bwst surgens oit there...just look at Girls generation before and after...most of them were transformed and very beautifully indeed...i got to say i admire they can have such great results
디엠으로 발탁된 사람이야 기본 자체가 아주 우수했단 뜻임 과거도 너무 예쁘다
I love her face before but she still look super pretty now
Sm have the best surgeon in K-pop
Idc she's gorgeous!
Na but plastic surgery was necessary u can't survive in South korea with average looks u need to be extremely beautiful and if it comes to South Korea's entertainment industry then it is a living hell so yeah SM did the right Choice and saved her from people talking bad things about her looks
She was sooo pretty 😢❤
aespa was an A.I concept group so making karina has a v-line surgery will suit it
pre debut karina is literally my standard. fierce look, small eyelids/monolids & sharp face
OMG... she's been beautiful all her life!
She looks amazing idc
Her face is surgery but her body isn’t and guy if u wanna surgery am here to support ( ure just surgery u dun do anything harm ppl so do what u want ) anyway I wanna say her personality nice n good than ppl who here to hate others
Even before plastic surgery she is already pretty tho
Y’all shouldn’t be surprised this is the idol industry had plastic surgery fans need to learn to accept that that won’t change anything about them
She is cute before and after as well❤
WOW~This is first time I Saw her pre debut photo,She Is so beautiful.
I don’t think she did facial reconstruction. The one thing Karina always said and still says she is proud of is her v line shape jaw. That girl did not get surgery for that.. guys u will be SHOCKED when u see what camera does to East asian faces.. depending on the angle it can look very narrow vs. not so much. Also losing 10-lbs makes a BIG difference on face. The reason is because East Asians tend to have smaller eyes (I’m talking about the double eyelid and depth of the eye socket) so it’s “less filling up” the space on facial canvas. So just a slight bad angle can make the face look wider, especially at the chin and jaw area. If u look at old karina, just cover her eyebrows and she basically looks the same as now. I think she may have had nose filler and yes maybe double eyelid correction surgery as well.