Pronunciation is the number 1 big hurdle for adult second-language speakers. They tend to be stronger in grammar because that involves more analytical skills. In contrast, for overseas Chinese people who may have spoken Chinese at a very young age, they may have very strong and accurate pronunciation but weaker on vocabulary and grammar.
Agreed !!! My wife always tells me that my "words" are correct but my pronunciation is wrong - which means the actual word I say is wrong, too. I just can't get the four sound inflections.... But it seems the Mandarin noun-verb placement is similar to German; but I can't help but think like an American.
Mark Zuckerberg's grammar and vocabulary are good, probably better than mine. It's his pronunciation that's really bad and it makes it near impossible to understand what he's saying. Like at 8:15, with the line that Jessie (and I) kept struggling to understand, I thought the last word he said was "avenger".
That's why pronunciation is what you wanna master first of all. Tones aren't really that hard at all, I've never spoken any tonal language, and Chinese was my first, I decided that working on pronunciation was my priority, so in the first weeks I practiced a lot on reading PinYin accurately, so now my pronunciation is pretty good for a beginner. I still can't talk about the weather or ask what time it is, but I can accurately pronounce any PinYin + read around ~300 characters (the second thing I focused on)
"today i want to say 3 things" well ok then why not you know put up 3 fingers instead of doing a side slash? his hand gestures don't support his speech either.
me gusto mucho tu analisis del Chino de Mark Zuckerberg algo muy bonito que tiene el mandarin es la pronunciacion que se escuhe como el Chino Nativo Natural y no como si fuese una maquina gracias por tu canal aqui apredere mas de este bonito Idioma Xie Xie
@@SieMiezekatzeNo son idiomas diferentes, simplemente el Chino es una "macrolengua" que abarca todos los "dialectos" del Chino. Así que idiomas como el Mandarín y Cantonés son idiomas Chinos. Si hablas del Chino, tienes que especificar qué "tipo" de Chino. La gente solo dice Chino para referirse al Mandarín porque es la asociación inmediata que tenemos del idioma, pero es incorrecto. El concepto de idioma Chino abarca alrededor de 300 dialectos, aunque muchos son tan diferentes que podríamos considerarlos idiomas diferentes.
I feel like he should work on his accent. It sounds VERY american. He should watch some C-Drama and his accent and pronunciation will improve over time.
This is what happens when a very smart guy with a background in classical languages is very busy and takes a stab at a very alien language. It's not great but also not too bad!
Raising our tones when we list things in English is not actually part of our language Jessie. That is simply the dialect of the speaker. Tones do not matter to us at all when speaking English. Tones communicate the emotion of the speaker at that precise moment.
That isn't quite true. We DO raise our word endings when we list stuff because we have to signal for each entry we're not done with the list yet (unless of course you reach your final item.) This is pretty universal among English speakers. Tones matter in English, just not in the same way they do in Chinese.
I would say tones DO matter when expressed in sentences. It changes the emotion and meaning of what was expressed. But like another comment, not in the same way as Mandarin. :)
English has at least one true tone- the question tone. Think about how you would say, for example, "That is green" as a declaration, vs. "That is green?" as a question. The tonality (rising question tone) completely changes the meaning in English.
@@joeosborn123 This is true, but the word order is as important as the inflection, as you would you usually say "Is that green?" rather than "That is green?". "Is that...?" is an actual question, whereas "That is...?" sounds more argumentative, or in disbelief, as though you're being challenged about something.
He always being made fun of as being a robot or reptilian, because he speaks even English in such a monotone robotic way yeah and him continuing to confirm and reaffirm that he is in fact human, would be like going into a bar and saying I'm not a murderer, murdering is bad, everyone there would distance themselves and be looking lol
I don't know much about tones and pronunciation, but I know I like listening to Chinese. Maybe he is good,and I understand the difficulty but I feel uncomfortable listening to him, so for me his Chinese sucks.
Thanks Jessie Laoshi. That's the first time I've seen a good explanation on the 3rd tones in a row in words! Great lesson, thanks!
he's speaking mandarin with English intonations lol
He's speaking the Zuckerbergarin Mandarin dialect, basically the same as Mandarin but different tones.
Tones are still the hardest thing for me to get my head around. I’m not surprised he hasn’t mastered them yet
Pronunciation is the number 1 big hurdle for adult second-language speakers. They tend to be stronger in grammar because that involves more analytical skills.
In contrast, for overseas Chinese people who may have spoken Chinese at a very young age, they may have very strong and accurate pronunciation but weaker on vocabulary and grammar.
Agreed !!! My wife always tells me that my "words" are correct but my pronunciation is wrong - which means the actual word I say is wrong, too. I just can't get the four sound inflections.... But it seems the Mandarin noun-verb placement is similar to German; but I can't help but think like an American.
True , is good if we can understand but as a native i can hear all the issues and pronunciation mistakes
Mark Zuckerberg's grammar and vocabulary are good, probably better than mine. It's his pronunciation that's really bad and it makes it near impossible to understand what he's saying. Like at 8:15, with the line that Jessie (and I) kept struggling to understand, I thought the last word he said was "avenger".
Mark can definitely afford a better Mandarin teacher. He should hire you 😉
That's why pronunciation is what you wanna master first of all. Tones aren't really that hard at all, I've never spoken any tonal language, and Chinese was my first, I decided that working on pronunciation was my priority, so in the first weeks I practiced a lot on reading PinYin accurately, so now my pronunciation is pretty good for a beginner. I still can't talk about the weather or ask what time it is, but I can accurately pronounce any PinYin + read around ~300 characters (the second thing I focused on)
de3ben4ji2? de3ben4zhi2? idk either. 8:18
的编制
的本质
的本机? I have no idea.
You're amazing, plz keep making such informative videos 👌🏽
6:50 Thank you, you answered something I've been wondering for a while now
Credit to him for his efforts
"today i want to say 3 things" well ok then why not you know put up 3 fingers instead of doing a side slash? his hand gestures don't support his speech either.
me gusto mucho tu analisis del Chino de Mark Zuckerberg algo muy bonito que tiene el mandarin es la pronunciacion que se escuhe como el Chino Nativo Natural y no como si fuese una maquina gracias por tu canal aqui apredere mas de este bonito Idioma Xie Xie
Zuckerberg no habla chino sino mandarin son idiomas diferentes
@@SieMiezekatzeNo son idiomas diferentes, simplemente el Chino es una "macrolengua" que abarca todos los "dialectos" del Chino. Así que idiomas como el Mandarín y Cantonés son idiomas Chinos. Si hablas del Chino, tienes que especificar qué "tipo" de Chino. La gente solo dice Chino para referirse al Mandarín porque es la asociación inmediata que tenemos del idioma, pero es incorrecto. El concepto de idioma Chino abarca alrededor de 300 dialectos, aunque muchos son tan diferentes que podríamos considerarlos idiomas diferentes.
Its so funny to see Mark not in robot mode for the chinese but always in robot mode for usa. He's so annoying. I hate facebook.
He needs to atone for his tones. Let's bow our heads 😉
8:32 这就是使命的本质？
I still make some of these mistakes. Mixing up English Grammar with Chinese
"Tones Tones Tones!" - Jessie老師
I feel like he should work on his accent. It sounds VERY american. He should watch some C-Drama and his accent and pronunciation will improve over time.
I love your dress.. love your eyes.. n love you.. 🤭😁.. take care jessy 👍👍👍
I'm learning Chinese from you. Thanks for sharing..keep it up.
This is what happens when a very smart guy with a background in classical languages is very busy and takes a stab at a very alien language. It's not great but also not too bad!
de bian zhe ? de bian zhi ? I think he's trying to say say something like "that's the production of one's destiny"?
Jessie!!! You're so funny!!!
Chinese(-style) dresses are so cute! :-)
LOL you're so so so funny lady (in the minute 9:43 of the video)
Hi Jessie! I like your videos. Have you done one on Da Shan?
Every time she speaks. it sounded like Jinnytty.
Raising our tones when we list things in English is not actually part of our language Jessie. That is simply the dialect of the speaker. Tones do not matter to us at all when speaking English. Tones communicate the emotion of the speaker at that precise moment.
Ohhhh I did not know that, thank you for pointing that out for me Levi!
That isn't quite true. We DO raise our word endings when we list stuff because we have to signal for each entry we're not done with the list yet (unless of course you reach your final item.) This is pretty universal among English speakers. Tones matter in English, just not in the same way they do in Chinese.
I would say tones DO matter when expressed in sentences. It changes the emotion and meaning of what was expressed. But like another comment, not in the same way as Mandarin. :)
English has at least one true tone- the question tone. Think about how you would say, for example, "That is green" as a declaration, vs. "That is green?" as a question. The tonality (rising question tone) completely changes the meaning in English.
@@joeosborn123 This is true, but the word order is as important as the inflection, as you would you usually say "Is that green?" rather than "That is green?".
"Is that...?" is an actual question, whereas "That is...?" sounds more argumentative, or in disbelief, as though you're being challenged about something.
Let's be honest.. Zuckerberg's Chinese generally sounds pretty bad. He sounds like the stereotypical foreigner trying to speak Chinese.
Thanks
You have convinced me to give up on learning Chinese.
You know how they say "A true artist must suffer for beauty?"
You're very beautiful.
This was very painful.
EAR BLEACH PLEASE.
MMMM UUU RRR DDD EEE RR
MARK ZUCKERBERG! ASAP!
Thank you laoshe ta cha hao
有錢比發音最重要.這一樣簡單
"his chinese is not bad, i've definitely got to say that". May I translate that as
他的中文肯定不好. 我必须这个说
thanks, i was being sarcastic.
He always being made fun of as being a robot or reptilian, because he speaks even English in such a monotone robotic way yeah and him continuing to confirm and reaffirm that he is in fact human, would be like going into a bar and saying I'm not a murderer, murdering is bad, everyone there would distance themselves and be looking lol
I don't know much about tones and pronunciation, but I know I like listening to Chinese.
Maybe he is good,and I understand the difficulty but I feel uncomfortable listening to him, so for me his Chinese sucks.
竟然我的日天变了更美丽! :)
he a robot.
His chinese is incomprehensible no matter he is rich or not.
Didn’t have to speak Chinese to see he is not fluent
da4ja3hao2 wtf lol
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阿福Thomas - Is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than him.
Oh, GOD NO. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻. Zuckerterd’s Mandarin is terrible, just like John Cena’s.
Nah john cena actually used some tones correctly
Mark Zuckerberg他并不是挺流利的。非常糟糕。
his chinese is terrible lmao worse than me after 2months stop being nice