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  • @computersales
    @computersales 10 років тому +6

    Never knew who NVIDIA's CEO was before watching this video. He seems like a pretty cool cat :D

  • @Growlinc
    @Growlinc 11 років тому

    This is so awesome, i hope governments implement this for city broadband integration

  • @neophobicnyctophile8264
    @neophobicnyctophile8264 8 років тому +2

    YOU getta copy of that data, and YOU getta copy of that data--Look under your seat, EVERYONE GETTA COPY OF THAT DATA!!!

  • @TizzyT455
    @TizzyT455 11 років тому +1

    why would you want titans? each grid gpu might be more powerful then the titan, he did say the most advanced kepler gpu (arguably the gk110), and there are 2 of them on each card.. so it might be like having 2 titans on a card. and yeah big MIGHT as specs are not out yet for those grid gpus as far as i know.

  • @KrunshCraft
    @KrunshCraft 10 років тому +9

    How muc FPS i get whit this on Battlefield 4!

    • @ThePiercegov
      @ThePiercegov 10 років тому +1

      A lot.

    • @ChickenShit48
      @ChickenShit48 10 років тому +1

      all of them ^^

    • @kingnfs1
      @kingnfs1 10 років тому +8

      until your game engine crash.

    • @lorenzogarcia7883
      @lorenzogarcia7883 9 років тому

      Le Chicken Sorry for a stupid question but does it mean even if i have weak computer when it connects to a "remote graphics", it may have a superior gaming and 3d rendering performance? and how it connect? wireless or via cable?

    • @ChickenShit48
      @ChickenShit48 9 років тому

      lorenzo garcia
      the Grid system allows you to use any kind of application / game with any windows / mac based hardware. all the processing power is utilized by the Grid server and is beeing encoded into h.264 video and send over via network; so 3G, 4G, Wifi, cable... dealers choice. The only thing you need to do is to install the nvidia Grid client on your windows / mac device and bob´s your uncle. ( Grid client is only availible with a Grid server and will set you back 20k to 50k $ US, depending on your configuration.) So no remote gaming for mainstream. at least not yet.
      It works like steam livingroom stream or onlive, just with much much more power and fewer limitations.

  • @rickytomatoes
    @rickytomatoes 11 років тому

    It's not that surprising once you factor in all the user-spawned processes and threads that will require tremendous amounts of computing power to deliver real-time performance in applications such as SolidWorks and Premiere.

  • @TroyLucia55
    @TroyLucia55 11 років тому +1

    Wow NVidia's old videos had so many dislikes and these have so many likes

  • @strongestgameralive
    @strongestgameralive 11 років тому +1

    This is absolutely amazing.

  • @oLuii
    @oLuii 11 років тому

    once again, to do that you need a 300 mbit up and down connection xD

  • @tanagaba6859
    @tanagaba6859 8 років тому +1

    Imagine the possibilities. Game production and collaborative media projects teams working in real time together.

  • @svenni0190
    @svenni0190 9 років тому

    Is that a joke? When did he come "back to the future" from 1985?
    Same Idea as in 1984 (X Window System, X-Server, X-Terminal).
    I remember we've had hp workstations, unix and X-Terminals till 2014.
    I don`t think that there was any new idea

  • @TheHeusinator
    @TheHeusinator 11 років тому

    This was how it started. Dumb terminals over acousistic coupler modem (because ma bell said that you couldn't connect any non bell hardware to the phone system back then.)

  • @juggawest
    @juggawest 10 років тому +1

    I want 1 but the electric bill would kill me would need solar and battery generator how much is this to begin with?

    • @Tactical_Nightwach
      @Tactical_Nightwach 9 років тому

      last i heard 1 irey VCA 4U Rack with 16GPUs costs 50.000$

  • @ArtMaknev
    @ArtMaknev 10 років тому

    Still confused how this works, you buy the grid unit which can have 16 virtual machines, but do you then need to buy 16 software licenses, or can it just use 1 license for all 16 virtual machines??

    • @Scoopy4444
      @Scoopy4444 10 років тому +1

      What i understand is that grid unit is not a license software byt itself , it's only hardware. The softwares you install in it are licensed. As you asked , is one licensed software installed is needed to be licensed again for 16 users in the same time ? I think it doesn't need to . Maybe i'm wrong : l

  • @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
    @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO 9 років тому

    It could only be as fast (obviously) as the network connection allows it to be. So I'm assuming that the GRID VCA was setup somewhere inside the conference hall.

  • @PhilipZeplinDK
    @PhilipZeplinDK 11 років тому

    If you can "hire an IT guy to do that" for "less than 80% of its original price", then I suggest you get in touch in NVIDIA, because I'm sure they'd be thrilled to learn how an average joe "IT guy" can cut costs that much.
    Now, jokes out of the way, stupid comments like this needs to go away.

  • @PhilipZeplinDK
    @PhilipZeplinDK 11 років тому

    Saying a technology isn't working well, because you're too far away from the servers, with too slow an internet connection, is a bit like saying a computer game isn't working well, because you don't have a good enough computer to run it...

  • @TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha
    @TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha 10 років тому

    They should focus on virtualize games. Even to just proof that it works: Everybody wins: They proof there performance and we the gamers get rid of stationary computers. Nothing needs more performance than Games

    • @downwithit21
      @downwithit21 9 років тому +1

      nothing needs performance like games. lmao.

  • @darkartu22
    @darkartu22 11 років тому

    I love nvidia,more than ATI,but now i have a 7870 and i can say it's good also because it costs only 180 bucks,but if i would like to buy the 660 TI it would me cost 250$ for quite the same prestations,but nvidia is waaaaaaay better than ATI,and my next GPU will be a nvidia one also if my ATI isn't that bad

  • @rickytomatoes
    @rickytomatoes 11 років тому

    So that's it, eh? You just plug some "stuff'" in and it all magically works seamlessly?
    You must've had low blood glucose levels when you wrote that comment.

  • @PhilipZeplinDK
    @PhilipZeplinDK 11 років тому

    I'm seriously dumbfounded that you think you can just hire a random IT guy, to do something INVIDIA has been researching and working on for roughly a decade...

  • @xSpringfieldx
    @xSpringfieldx 11 років тому

    They mentioned things like, try before you buy, pretty much using it for Game demos.
    See something you are interested in, click play. play it from Grid, if you like it buy it and it will download to your machine.

  • @AleatorioIncoherente
    @AleatorioIncoherente 11 років тому

    i had a ati card then nvidia card then an ati card again now nvidia card... i can have both of them 4 me its same! but 4 now nvidia kick ati´s ass!

  • @Carnology
    @Carnology 11 років тому

    So, nVidia saw Onlive using virtual machines to stream 3d games over the internet and they are using that idea for enterprise and businesses.

  • @rickytomatoes
    @rickytomatoes 11 років тому

    You're right. Until the bandwidth is there, technology like Onlive will not be practical for the average joe.

  • @pwND001
    @pwND001 11 років тому

    I agree with you. But its not about being a major breakthrough, Its more about fucking time they have focused on remote graphics!

  • @hamsterwolf
    @hamsterwolf 11 років тому

    it is completely possible to route usb and sound to a device such as this virtual machines do it all the time, i am shore however that you need lots of bandwidth to do so
    if i were setting something like this up i would want everything to be wired Ethernet so i wont have to deal with interference screwing with the latency. another thought it may just be sending over a h,264 stream that any current computer would be capable of handling and patching over controls.

  • @keeza333
    @keeza333 11 років тому

    anyone know the cost of something like this ? is it possible for me to run battlefield 3 or something similar on my slow laptop from my gaming desktop if I had a 10-20 meg a second connection . Also do any of you know what the requirements are on the remote system as well as the connection ? It would be great to game on a laptop from starbucks or tethering from my phone (though I doubt 4glte would be fast enough ).

  • @Bicasso
    @Bicasso 11 років тому

    i dont think this has anything to do with broadband speed. this is more geared towards terminal servers for businesses.
    besides the government already spent alot of money on cable companies to improve their speed but they instead just pocketed the money and and did a shitty job while collaborate with each other to keep the price high. That's why google fiber is trying to change this, time to catch up with the rest of the world.

  • @GrateMilenko
    @GrateMilenko 11 років тому

    I have alot of early doubts about this. This could be good for a bussiness that hires people with their own computer no matter how shitty, as long as it runs a os, My dad used terminal services and we had 7 computers in the house and we could all access our profiles at any computer and it would be the same.the only diffrence is. the servers stored the data but the workstation executed and ran temporary data that it had to retrive from server. but it was normal login speed. everything worked.

  • @Windbringer
    @Windbringer 11 років тому

    When you are a small business, you do not need to own this system and set it up yourself. What you do is find a company that host this system. As a small business, you only need a fraction of the horse power these servers are capable off. It is almost parallel to; Insted of hosting your own htlm server for your website, you find a webhotel to service it for you. This way, you dont need to worry about anything and the cost is divided by all the customers. Its much more efficient this way.

  • @onwul
    @onwul 11 років тому

    No, stupid comments like yours need to go away. You took two quotes what have nothing to do with each-other. Software price aside, price for this particular hardware configuration might be good, However, not everyone who needs such solution will utilise all that computing power. Some might need less GPUs, but more disk space, other might need less disk scape but couple more GPUs.

  • @onwul
    @onwul 11 років тому

    It sounded awesome, until I saw how much it costs: $20,000-$30,000 USD plus $2,000 - $3,000 yearly payments for the software. This pretty much makes this product not an option for small business, plus if you won't be able to pay $2,000 at the end of the year, you might just throw this hardware into a trash can, or sell it at less than 80% of its original price. I suspect, that you can build system like that for a lot cheaper anyway, or hire IT guy to do that.

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd 11 років тому

    Many small to medium businesses don't need this type of render farm power and do not even have a clean air-conditioned rack with the power requirements to run a system like this. Because if you use this technology you would need at least 2 of these units to provide fail-over when one unit goes down. That would amount to a rather large investment if you have to buy all the stuff necessary just to run a pair of these units. This is marketed mainly to research and design companies.

  • @Isaac_1337
    @Isaac_1337 11 років тому

    For all the AMD and ATI comments, here is your answer:
    In 2006 AMD acquired ATI but kept the ATI brand name for their graphics cards until 2010 when they retired the ATI brand name and branded all graphics cards under the AMD name instead of ATI.
    So ATI was no longer a company in 2006 but their name was still used until 2010 by AMD who then decided to brand all products under AMD which makes it much more uniform.

  • @PhilipZeplinDK
    @PhilipZeplinDK 11 років тому

    And do pray tell, how exactly does the random IT guy have insight and training in INVIDAs technology?

  • @8GamingMonsters
    @8GamingMonsters 11 років тому

    Nvidia won't be selling the Grid VCA directly to customers, but through its value-added resellers (VARs), who will also be tasked with providing hardware support. The eight-user Grid VCA's hardware costs $24,900, plus a $2,400-per-year license to use Nvidia's software; the 16-user model costs $39,900 up-front plus $4,800 per year for the software license.

  • @AnnihilatorCZ
    @AnnihilatorCZ 11 років тому

    I know, but that doesn't mean anything. When they prove it's even possible, then they might start working on really achieving it. We've been able to trigger a hydrogen fusion for like sixty years now, and still it hasn't seen a practical use. Now imagine how primitive that really is compared to quantum entanglement.

  • @THE16THPHANTOM
    @THE16THPHANTOM 11 років тому

    alright no more reason to have bad graphic quality mmo games. i personally don't get how all that graphic data can be send over the internet, i'm thinking i would require a constant +20MB per second connection, witch is no problem on local network but hey maybe they solved that too.

  • @ExtremeAnalDischarge
    @ExtremeAnalDischarge 10 років тому +1

    Where in the matrix did he get that jacket, and shouldn't it have come with an age limit?

  • @Bicasso
    @Bicasso 11 років тому

    i dont know how you get so many upvotes but you suspect wrong, dead wrong. the AC cost alone to keep your server/network room at a good temperature will cost more than that 2000-3000$ yearly payment you're talking about.
    Trust me the guy in this video knows what he;s talking about

  • @THEHEXTIIIR
    @THEHEXTIIIR 11 років тому

    i hate to say everything i think happens eventually.
    remote computing. psh strong pc + internetz + wifi enabled client. that just equals something i could rig together with houshold computer stuff in my closet.
    anyone looking to build a smaller version of this just contact me

  • @brandon9271
    @brandon9271 11 років тому

    I'm still not sold on this idea.. I tried Onlive and the latency was BAD. I really don't want remote graphics.. I want it rendered under my desk.. I think most hardcore gamers want the same. Maybe in the future when we have fiber optic broadband with a >20 ms ping or something.

  • @WizenedWarrior
    @WizenedWarrior 11 років тому

    They usually do that at events because the convention center's wireless is probably getting hammered by all the people in the audience and a hardline is much more reliable for demonstrations. In other terms yes it can be wireless, but for the sake of the demonstration going smoothly they used wired.

  • @xaira12
    @xaira12 11 років тому

    you did see the part where its powered by 2 xeon octocores, intel prefers you buy 2 $2000 processors than a bunch of $200 processors, this will be an epic addition to cloud computing, imagine ur phone powered by 8 high end gpus, smart houses in the future will run on these

  • @onwul
    @onwul 11 років тому

    Well some random IT guy doesn't need to do a research or make his own GPU. He/she can buy all the components, put them together, install the software and thats it. As for accessing desktop remotely, this has been available for a decades.

  • @KajoFox
    @KajoFox 11 років тому

    quantum entanglement was used to teleport photons, and could be a method of inter-galaxy communication (being instant). but the record for entanglement is a few atoms. mebe enough for comms, but not teleportation. possibly processing.

  • @GrateMilenko
    @GrateMilenko 11 років тому

    but i now do that with virtual computer. and it runs from the server. the only diffrence there. is yours has the massive graphics rack for high graphics use app's. works the same as your setup. just w/o badass graphics

  • @ooloops
    @ooloops 11 років тому

    If your small business can't afford $2000 for computer software you have no reason to be in business. This means that along with your network storage, you can have something like this and spend $100 on each of your computers.

  • @joehhhL1771
    @joehhhL1771 11 років тому

    how big is the grid pc. maybe a comparison to an average sized laptop would be nice to see how much space it actually takes up. i have a feeling that the animation shown made it seem smaller than it really is.

  • @Adayum27
    @Adayum27 11 років тому

    The reason why Onlive is developing slowly is because they don't have the massive market of enterprises backing it up. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia takes the lead with this approach.

  • @Isaac_1337
    @Isaac_1337 11 років тому

    The way you said it made it sound like you were saying that it is the ATI 7970 and were supporting Sam sammy's statement.
    So that makes it look like you didn't know ATI was 'no more'

  • @HitMarkersAreFun
    @HitMarkersAreFun 11 років тому

    so, all of this means that nvidia is getting into the Virtual Machine market.

  • @Bicasso
    @Bicasso 11 років тому

    this will never be cheap enough for home use, network systems prices have been above 2k since the beginning of time. if there's a new model they discontinue the old one.

  • @baconnology9564
    @baconnology9564 11 років тому

    nvidia GRID vs crysis 3 maxed out on 3 4K TVs = 1 million FPS. don't just take my money now take my kids, house, and the organs that i don't really NEED NOW!!!!!!

  • @tomorrow6
    @tomorrow6 10 місяців тому

    If people had of invested in Nvidia shares after this video …..

  • @jimmyg1095
    @jimmyg1095 11 років тому

    these guys are a dying breed..oculus rift and omni made in the basement rift being sold for 300 bucks. changed the way movies and games will be done forever.

  • @rokupixruiqi368
    @rokupixruiqi368 11 років тому

    isnt that what are they doing? while using the power of 10 computers to power 1, 100 people shares that 1 computer and complete their work

  • @NayimpactHD
    @NayimpactHD 11 років тому

    I'd love to have the public speaking skills that this CEO has one day... He's amazing, I like the guy just from watching these videos!

  • @DimiShimi
    @DimiShimi 11 років тому

    I suppose the workstation just runs Windows... The only problem I see, is that you need a fast internet-connection at all times.

  • @GoldCheeze
    @GoldCheeze 11 років тому

    That's just being polite and professional. Not mooing like a bunch of cows when sony releases a new playstation exclusive.

  • @onwul
    @onwul 11 років тому

    What exactly training do you need to put an graphics card into a computer case? 10 years old kid can do that properly.

  • @TheMike089367
    @TheMike089367 11 років тому

    i like titans and those gpus are most likely workstation gpus not as good for gaming but who knows they might be beast

  • @warmaxxx
    @warmaxxx 11 років тому

    before actually trying to remote graphics they should probably fix latency's all over the world starting with internet why not try to solve quantum molecular physics so you can actually make everything around earth connected around 0ms-1ms~5ms ping/latency
    that would be ideal for everything from gaming to surfing to working to etc.. then again probably will happen eventually in the future

  • @mattyc0928
    @mattyc0928 11 років тому

    Do you want me to spoon feed you? I'm sorry you have a terribly in different way of understanding a simple comment.

  • @debug_duck
    @debug_duck 11 років тому

    I dont think this is for playing bf3...
    Also, i dont think you will pay the 20-30k$ plus 2-3k$ a year for this...

  • @Bicasso
    @Bicasso 11 років тому

    i also had the privilege cleaning up a server room after a fire started from the AC failing overnight... not fun

  • @mattyc0928
    @mattyc0928 11 років тому

    I was speaking on behalf of Sam sammy, who didn't sound like HE knew. Guess that's a little hard to think of, ya?

  • @MarshalBeard
    @MarshalBeard 11 років тому

    No I meant I've seen separate servers each containing 4TB of RAM each. So it is as ridiculous as it sounds.

  • @Isaac_1337
    @Isaac_1337 11 років тому

    cool, whatever you think mate.
    I don't really care about this argument anymore.
    So how about we end it here?

  • @FLOMOSAPIAN
    @FLOMOSAPIAN 11 років тому

    so where can i get one? i need one for my house hold. i want it now.

  • @Kishkobi
    @Kishkobi 11 років тому

    Can't wait till this is like $500 for homes to own it, but then again this will be for our grandkids hahaha

  • @DarkstarAndrew01
    @DarkstarAndrew01 11 років тому

    Agreed it's ridiculously expensive. I doubt small business could afford this, let alone a school district.

  • @visionmedia2810
    @visionmedia2810 9 років тому

    Xeons must be great processors because I have an older workstartion that has 2 Xeons @ over 3.5ghz each and I replaced the graphics card which was a quadro based card to a Gtx graphics card and wow! It runs super fast and the graphics run at high and ultra settings. So compared to an i7 it does just about the same or better. Their Geforce Now service runs off these machines and their games render amazing also.

    • @tybracadabra6321
      @tybracadabra6321 6 років тому

      this is a really old post but honestly games aren't affected much by CPU performance, and more so GPU performance.. only games that really use the CPU are games with a LOT of NPCs or objects in general

  • @YamaKazoo
    @YamaKazoo 11 років тому

    Google quantum entanglement and its application with technology. Theoretically it could be instant.

  • @AmazingMrX
    @AmazingMrX 11 років тому

    It's 16 GPUs man. That's 8 dual GK110 cards... wow is right.

  • @Dan20q
    @Dan20q 11 років тому

    Jen-Hsun Huang, keep cool! Ur presentations are great! ;)

  • @TalkashieGaming
    @TalkashieGaming 11 років тому

    Actually, it's closer than you think. They have already started working on things like this.

  • @5iwot5
    @5iwot5 11 років тому +1

    can somebody count how many times he sad "t"

    • @5iwot5
      @5iwot5 11 років тому

      xIpodTouchGoeroex yes something more to put in there XD

  • @purpoats
    @purpoats 11 років тому

    idk i thought the list of corporations he listed off in the beginning was a dead give away

  • @oof7796
    @oof7796 10 років тому

    I am totaly gonna buy it i think its around 10k

  • @AdrianVisan
    @AdrianVisan 11 років тому

    Latency and internet speed isn't what Nvidia is working on, other companies are working on that. Imagine it the other way around, if we get low latency but we don't have these servers we still can't do it. Different companies are working on different parts.

    • @tomorrow6
      @tomorrow6 10 місяців тому

      Hence what happened with infiniband and nvidia

  • @Edmundostudios
    @Edmundostudios 11 років тому

    You don't follow this computer technology much do you? lol.

  • @Gr33nMamba
    @Gr33nMamba 11 років тому

    This isn't being aimed at home computing/gaming. That's not the solution they are trying to engineer.

  • @AdrianVisan
    @AdrianVisan 11 років тому

    It should be possible to get really close to 0 latency with quantum entanglement.

  • @TizzyT455
    @TizzyT455 11 років тому

    nvidia com/object/grid-processors-cloud-games html

  • @partymayker
    @partymayker 11 років тому

    Now convince Rockstar Games to release GTA V on steam and include it in the VCA.

  • @TheMike089367
    @TheMike089367 11 років тому

    imagine that pc with 8 titans on sli for gaming damn i would kill for that pc

  • @GD15555
    @GD15555 10 років тому

    dish still got legacy receivers 2800 lol

  • @flatshade
    @flatshade 10 років тому +1

    For professional use only.

  • @FLOMOSAPIAN
    @FLOMOSAPIAN 11 років тому

    thx for the info. that is not worth it if you ask me.

  • @GoldCheeze
    @GoldCheeze 11 років тому

    Please learn how to type and try to get your point across better next time.

  • @SalmanAbbas007
    @SalmanAbbas007 11 років тому

    Why does GRID K2 cost $4000 if you buy it alone :(

  • @KaKamaKa1995
    @KaKamaKa1995 11 років тому

    I that virtual machine we controll you," nubs "

  • @dunnobutwayne
    @dunnobutwayne 11 років тому

    why would an average use want a server blade?^^

  • @MarshalBeard
    @MarshalBeard 11 років тому

    I've seen a couple servers with 4TB of RAM. Fucking ridiculous.

  • @diggtech
    @diggtech 11 років тому

    This could solve a lot of first world PC and post-PC problems.

  • @23piz23mitch
    @23piz23mitch 11 років тому

    yap even my shitty acer aspire 5315 laptop

  • @streamheart
    @streamheart 11 років тому

    so all we actually needed to see was from 15:00 and forth lol

  • @warxfanatic
    @warxfanatic 11 років тому

    its like a more enhanced verseion of team view!