the way her husband was like "start working wench" and then proceeded to not heed her advice about measuring any of the ingredients resulting in bad bread that caused them financial losses that week...... sooo unnecessary lmao did not like that guy
No that's s lie. She does it everyday. But pretends for the camera. All you need for bread is flour and water. fats, sugar, and salt are for flavor. yeast or soda is for airy bread. I've made my own bread for years. Also flour can be make from any grain, pea, or bean. Flour is just turning them into dust. .
They could create a “Victorian experience” in Shepton as a tourist attraction. They could open those shops exactly the way they did for the documentary. People could come to town and live their vacation the way people lived daily lives during Victorian times. I’m sure many would love the experience. And it would create many jobs and awake the town from its sleepiness.
The ironsmith getting choked up by being so valued and proud of his work- loved that! Trades are so undervalued. After the recent winter storms in Texas, people have started to value the trades more (plumbers, utility workers). Same as how grocery workers were more valued after Covid.
After covid? It's not over.. we kept ig away where I live & work for 2 y.. im recovering from covid at this moment.. we have had the same number infected since the start, when omikron got here... In china they have a huge surge in cases.. numbers not seen since the worst wave, when the epidemic started, almost 2.5 y ago. Sorry, but it hasen't gone anywhere..
The baker's manual said female baker's were rare not that they weren't allowed or didn't exist. What's the point of bringing in a baker and then not letting her do anything useful?
I thought the same but I assume it's because they're planning on bringing her into more and more involved roles as the episodes progress to reflect women's increasing rights through the decades
To prove a point rofl. You're skilled and capable, but it's a man world so you got to stand by and watch your husband fail because your role in society is elsewhere.
I worked in a bakery which had been founded in the 19th. century. It had been handed down through my uncle’s family. Not very much modern machinery had been introduced. There is a simple reason why it was though not to be a woman’s job. Before large electric mixers, hundreds of pounds of ingredients had to be mixed. One had to handle 100 lb. sacks of sugar and flour. From rolling the vast amounts of dough, the bakers’ arms looked like weight lifters. It was a very physical job.
I know right? "We've been waiting for 5 min" and???? As if that's a long time to wait. Besides they can see everything's by hand, just wait the fuck off jesus.
You have to remember we are an instant gratification society, not one of those people has ever bought anything that wasn't in a Department store or Supermarket. The whole idea behind this is to make the regular people see what life was like a century and a half ago. And the shopkeepers got an eye opener as well.
These customers really need to get a grip, what an amazing opportunity and the majority of them were being such brats. I am just finishing watching The Tudor Farm series and now this, lol. You are easily the best channel on UA-cam.
the whole BBC historical farm series is great. Edwardian farm Victorian farm the separate Victorian series regarding the apothecary etc also wartime farm is very educational regarding how families and everybody cope during world war II
@@semi-san1736 Hey, although there are Karen's and Daren's in every part of the world----- I'm Mexican American and I totally agree with that 100% of American Karens. American and Australian Karen's are the absolute most ridiculous.
Well the thing about that I find weird is that they did not allow her to bake in the Victorian era. When in reality she would have been allowed to do so. Their documents and pictures that show womem running bakeries and helpin make the bread itself Actually in the other documentary "Victorian Bakers" they showed that women did help in the baking ( allowing the woman in their team to help). As well as showing that one of the participant's family business . Was actually started by his great aunt
@@davriecaro3036: Well, you know, gotta keep up with the prevailing sentiment of man is Alpha King, and woman is dainty wallflower in 19th century England.
@@davriecaro3036 I could see women not being allowed in bakery's that were owned by others and hiring journeymen to do the work because in some cases men were locked into the bakery. I do see smaller businesses owned by individual families utilizing all the family members that were able-bodied. The larger the business the harder it was and could see large companies not allowing women, it was one of the most labor intensive jobs as well as underpaid even when labor laws were in the works to being changed Baker's were left out such as the ten hour work day. Baker's and the worker* were not protected or considered because of the high demand of the product.
It bugs me so much when the people complain about the general store wait times, "what you're telling me it takes time with no technology to give me my goods? Pfft nooo"
Even with Technology. In Eastern Europe, we still have corner bakeries, and sometimes it would get very busy. Like lines that go up to the end of the street. I guess some people still like fresh baked bread.
@@aurorajones8481 I have tons of patience, where I live Amazon doesn't even have same day shipping, so if I order something now I wont get it until tomorrow afternoon!
@@aurorajones8481 A very good statement! It also works with information, and we feed on it. Usually they don't care if it's right just as long as it's first and people straight believe it.
One of the problems today is that we eat a more varied diet. So these people are going in looking for a bunch of stuff where as back in the day most people would only buy a few things at a time. Also it was common for people to bring in a list and leave it with the shop keeper and come back later for there order.
Is it bad that when the Grocer said that the food in Victorian times were purer I burst out laughing because I already knew the lengths they would got to stretch the product they had to the absolute limit by contaminating them. Even if it was at expense to the customer...
@@oooh19yes and so many food manufacturers are still adding poisonous additives or artificial colors to foods. Times haven't changed as much as we would hope.
I agree. To be fair, the wife later burning the butcher's pies spoiled her resume a bit. Yet, in all, they're all great sports for signing up for this.
I think Carolyn was amazingly tolerant. She wasn't even supposed to go into the space where thebutchers pies were burning but she didn't let the building burn down and not a word of complaint did I hear.
@@nonameno8065 She didn't burn them as she would not be allowed anywhere near the oven in the first place. The oven was way too hot as well, they usually don't use open fire either, but instead, wait until the fire was out then used the residual heat to bake. at least that what I learn after watching so many of this historical show
@@paddyotterness Agreed, and that is true for all of North America. But if you want more good historical content, I can recommend a few good youtube channels: Lindybeige, Kraut, Brandon F., History Buffs, and Horrible Histories.
I enjoyed this, aside from the bakers. What was the point of bringing in an expert only to make her watch her idiot husband mess up every step? I feel so bad for her
so well said! The producers and Devlin actually sabotaged the show. Deliberate malfeasance, that jackass with the salt container......forcing out the expert...might as well have the grocers be the bakers in this era.....
And I do wonder about the assertion that women weren't bakers, nor helped with baking, as they wouldn't allow them to touch a thing. They were inconsistent there, the women at the grocers were not allowed to be front of shop (and that would have been true of those times) but they were allowed to be behind the scenes working, weighing, measuring and packing for customers. Whereas at the bakery they had her in the shop but then was not allowed to be behind the scenes involved in preparation and baking of the bread.
The way the grocer giggled at the sunscreen request cracked me up. Did they not tell the buyer participants that the sellers had to create and package all their products. Also sunscreen would’ve been a pharmacy item back then if it even existed (I’m positive it didn’t)
He needs to remember these people don't have the oral palates of the past as well. They own modern palates, and desire modern foods made a certain way. Especially if the customers are to give up their grocer for a whole week. I personally couldn't do it due to health reasons
Yeah what's his problem? He has no idea what he's doing, their bakery business outside of this show would be nothing without his wife, the actual baker.
31:00 Ummm... Why is the Baker going to learn from someone else how to bake bread when all he has to do is put his ego aside and actually LISTEN to his own WIFE who is a professional Baker and does this for a living day in day out? If he had listened to her input in the first place, the bread would not have been so salty, burnt on the outside and undercooked on the inside.
The role description said baking was man's work and women had very limited participation. Sales I'd guess? Ignoring female knowledge about traditional men's work seems to me to be pretty stereotypically Victorian
@@heathergutierrez8174 Geez, it wasn't that bad. It was Victorian times; only the elites had voices. Most men would still take advice from their wife, especially in a situation like this. Most men wouldn't risk their livelihood just because they didn't want to listen to their wife.
Woman were expected to do the cooking but I guess that rule only applied to cooking for the family especially the husband. It appearently doesn't apply to cooking in a business. Women back then were treated like slaves and beneath men. ☹️
When I’m in Paris, I do all my shopping at the open markets. The poultry and fish is sold intact because the head is the first part to start going off. By selling it as it grew, the merchant is showing you how fresh his meats are and that you are indeed purchasing the breed of bird you are paying for. Yes, the shop will clean your purchase for you.
My earliest memory of my maternal grandmother is her skinning and gutting a rabbit. I must have been about 3 years old. Probably bought at the local village butcher, or perhaps shot by someone she knew. People did that in those days (and they still do). It’s a bit surprising that there are people out there who don’t know where meat comes from, and are amazed when they’re told ‘beef comes from cows’. And they thought it came from Sainsbury’s.
@@Orwic1 I always think of Mrs. Howel, the rich lady on the old Gilligan's Island show, saying, "I've seen beets in their natural habitat...the Super Market."
@@everdinestenger1548 At our local French market they have the rabbits still alive in cages. I haven't had the nerve to ask if you have to kill them yourself or if if they will kill and clean them for you.....
The baker's were far more cringy than they needed to be. There was absolutely nothing stopping the husband from taking directions from the actual baker.
That's the stupidity of this series. Perhaps they thought it would be more entertaining. How ridiculous. This speaks less about the difficult conditions of the Victorians than it does about abysmally incompetent modern people who've lost all basic skills for food making a survival.
The looks of horror from the locals at seeing how meat is butchered, are priceless to someone from a farming background. When my dad was 4 years old, he and his mother were snowed-in, with no food. She took him out to the barn, handed him the hatchet, held down a chicken. He did what he had to.
I can understand the children being a bit put off by the Butcher, but adults who are not Vegetarians being shocked at a butchershop is worse than moronic, if you don't know and understand where your food comes from and what you are eating you shouldn't be allowed to eat at all.
I'm really happy that in my town small dedicated shops are still a major thing. Supermarkets are popular, but a lot of people still buy at smaller grocer's or butcher's. It gives you the opportunity to do exactly what the customers described, you see people you know, you communicate, mingle and get to buy locally made goods and pick out the stuff you actually want to buy. It's bliss.
I like the butcher guy, he seems like the one of them who were "made" for it all (not counting his "pies") In 2nd place would be the blacksmith. It was a shame that the bakers wife couldn't teach him.
I will say to a certain extent that to be fair, the butcher is the easiest sell. The baker is a bit of an ass but he's also using money-saving techniques that were common but accepted whereas of course today's buyers would NEVER accept it. Do you know what most could easily be convinced into buying though? Pork.
It served the baker right he was getting advice from his wife a master baker and he did what he wanted . It would.have served him right if his children would have gone to the work house . The joke would have been an an awaking. Only his children would have payed the price not him .
What a whiny group of shoppers! I can’t believe they weren’t advised of the details of Victorian shopping! The man in the grocers complaining waiting for *gasp* 15 whole minutes!! Just rude people
To be fair though that kind of thing is the reason why tiny victorian shops fell out of favor. Why spend your whole day waiting for some salty bread made by a man who will die before middle age only to find out when you finally get home that it's not edible when you can go to the super market and grab a loaf of always uniform, always the same bread made in a sparkling clean factory with careful regulations, blast through check out, and get on with your life? We look back at these shops now with rose tinted glasses just like we do stores like Blockbuster but at the end of the day there are real economic reasons why they aren't around anymore just like why they don't run wooden four wheel train carriages with no hallways or bathrooms pulled by steam engines on commuter lines anymore.
Honestly I agree. I half feel the lady in the polka-dot shirt (grey short hair) was intentionally told to complain- but asking about modern day sauces?! Learn your history woman
I think the trouble with the oven is that the fire is to heat the inside of it. When it's hot enough, you remove the fire, and the radiant heat gently bakes the food. Whereas, cooking with the direct heat of the fire will burn the food.
I can't believe ppl aren't swarming the butcher shop! With all the processed meats in stores these days, I wish I could source from a local butcher all the time.
The Pork Man apparently doesn’t know how a wood fired oven works. You don’t stick the items in with a roaring fire going; you heat the oven bricks with the fire and leave some - not a lot - of residual coals.
Bhaha, when the butcher burnt the pies and the master baker came to take them out “you can’t blame me, I’m a woman, I’m not supposed to be in here 😂” I laughed so hard 😩😂😂😂
I said the same thing..... Very historically INACCURATE... more of a modern political twist rather than what was really going on at the time. Kinda like all the people sneering at the butchers meat..... As IF that many people actually have a problem with seeing meat being cut up... I think they must have rounded up a handful of the most sheltered, ignorant customers they could possibly find to create the narrative they were after.... I know lots of modern, upper-class people who prefer getting their meats from a butcher rather than a supermarket....but this show makes it seem like its just SUCH an oddity... Lol
@@v.b.4622 so, I'm American. Not British. This is absolutely what I would expect from anybody not raised around farms, and that's the vast majority of people in the US. My mom SCREAMS at the idea of any of my chickens becoming dinner and actually slapped me once for offering to butcher one for her.
as a russian i would expect such a reaction too. most of us live in cities and we dont usually see how the meat on the shelves is prepared. sadly here it s much more profitable either to have a big corporation or to buy a franchise of a big corporation and sell stuff in huge amounts. so sole traders is a quite rare bussiness, and more, some shops even aquiered cashier-free model, so this individual approach, everything hand made and carefully wrapped in crafted paper as well as the show they put on beforehand - has really been an insight for me, and i would react absolutely the same as those customers. would even add a wee of drama cuz it s quite hard for me to watch animals being axed chopped and ripped like that
I love this series. It hits home because my uncle was the local baker in my hometown in Connecticut. The large commercial bakeries, which sell via the supermarket chains put him out. On a positive note, the town where I now live has a privately run butcher. Every time I shop there, he is very busy. I think things are starting to come full circle.
The little boy at 51:48 is adorable! This whole experiment was amazing. 💗 I know it’s a ridiculous amount of work, with quite a learning curve, but I think I would enjoy being apart of something like this!
Or remembered being children who went shopping with their parents and had to patiently stand in the line and behave in the shop in order to be able to pick a small treat.
Oh my goodness I have been looking for this show for forever! I saw it when it first came on and then could never find it again. Thank you for adding it to the channel!
Thank you for uploading this, I have really vivid memories of watching this while my mum was sick and in the final stages of cancer and we loved watching this together
The Devlins seem to be really nice people and good parents - they've evidently taught their kids to be polite, respectful, well - mannered, well - behaved and hard - working.
I mean how could you even try to explain it to them? "OK, imagine a telegraph, but it can directly show you text and colored illustrations, and everyone has one in their home and another one in their pocket. One of the things you can use it for is reading and ordering from something like the Pryce Jones catalogue."
@@drewgehringer7813 They were not as "stupid", attempts to transmit pictures were done maybe in middle of 19th century, yes, there would be problem with wirles transmission, but in general some electric device which is able to show you pictures and connect you with somebody in different place would not be so foreign to some more educated. The concept of coding of something in form of some binary code was not that foreign to them as the already had looms controlled by punched cards.
That baker guy annoyed the hell out of me. If they aren't going to let the professional baker bake the bread because she's a woman, get a man that can bake in the first place.
Brilliant! Very entertaining and eye opening. I loved seeing the ship keepers’ reactions to what they had to sell, where they had to sleep, and the baker’s boy’s reaction to the chamber pit was priceless!! Well done!
Speaking about packing food... you may know we have in Italy what we call the "packaging valley". A smart woman, Maria Toschi Corazza, who ran a grocery in the early '50s, asked her husband to build a machine for packing the glutammate, because she was tired of making so many small packages. That machine worked as a charm and it was the beginning of an entire industry which today involves about 200 companies which makes pakaging machines in Emilia Romagna. Something valued a bit less of 50% of the entire world production of packaging machines. And everything started in a small grocery.
Love learning and seeing anything about the past , it’s the most interesting to think our ancestors lived this way , did things this way , and worked so very hard , it’s just so fascinating ,thank you people for doing this project for the world to witness ! Bravo to you all ! 🙏❤️🇨🇦
Try "Victorian bakers" serie, "Absolute history" upload them on youtube, there is link: ua-cam.com/video/Sa8eWuGZzMc/v-deo.html . This is good serie, but "Victorian bakers" are in my opinion even better.
Amazing how many people don't mind eating meat but at the same time don't want to think where it cam from or what it took to get it to their table. I love butcher shops. There is a local one 40 min from my house and it is so great to have it. I certainly don't mind watching someone process the animal. You know you are getting the FRESHEST cuts that way.
Oh no you wouldnt hahaha, read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" to get an idea of what the meat industry was like prior to the creation of the FDA. Hint: It wasnt nice
As an American, I really enjoy these British history videos. However, it irked me that the baker's wife wasn't allowed to help, and the bread turned out to be an absolute DISASTER. Surely they could have bent the rules and let her help, because I'm sure that even in that era, baker's wives at least knew SOMETHING about baking bread, especially if they had a family to feed, and it's quite possible that some wives would have helped their husbands in the bakery out of necessity, if the need arose. Otherwise, it was an enjoyable episode. I also found it amusing that, in the segment where they were unloading the giant cheese, they were playing "Stars and Stripes Forever," an American tune that is so patriotic that it's often played at Fourth of July fireworks displays -- on a BRITISH TV show!
Loved this! Newport, Ky tried to help its downtown area in a similar way. By letting people open up "pop up" shops in empty storefronts for a month or so. It seemed to work well.
Awsome to see this ! I was a kid in the 1960s and remember my granny going into all the old style shops ..butchers bakers the green grocers .etc in our town ..I remember queuing in the butchers and a man dropped a tin of peas on my head when I was little..I've not been right since ! Lols and the old goat didn't apologise either !
This was infuriating to watch! Especially since her stubborn husband ignored everything about the trade and all of her advice. I wanted to put him in a flour sack and throw him in the river, that would have been a step up for the business.
I watched a full documentary by Absolute history how they made bread in Victorian time, man, that was just so eye opening and when I looked at their face when they heard what other ingredients people used back in that time...
I am not even from the UK and I got hyped for Market day . XD Really wish I could be there to experience this. I love this channel Thank you please don't ever stop making videos and teaching us History
It's a pity the public weren't given a brief of what to expect from the recreated shops. I'm 68 and remember shops very similar to this in the 1960s in Thirsk.I know that the grocer was different to the greengrocer but the customers even the older ones seemed to be entirely ignorant Walter Wilsons ( the grocer) weighed coffee, bacon, cheese and other dry goods etc according to how much you wanted. Biscuits were sold from large glass topped tins and and weighed into paper bags. The butcher who kept his own beasts had two shops in the market place. One shop was a pork butchers and the other for everything else including cooked ham and pork pies. The ironmongers sold everything conceivable that rural folk might need from light bulbs and candles to all sorts of substances not allowed these days. The pharmacist sold toiletries and also medicines for humans and farm animals alike
That was brilliant 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 a walk down memory lane... a place where mine nana - grandmother grew up pre to Victorian times in Somerset... along with great aunties and uncles and cousins.. I place my grandmother wanted to see one more time before she died in London... back in the sixties unfortunately she never was able to make it back... but my mom and I went to Somerset to make up for what my grandmother wasn't able to do and then my mom died... about four months later....
It shows how time has changed. Waiting 10 minutes feels like an eternity, but in the Vic. Era it would have been normal to wait quite a while for things and not think of it as a long time.
There is one modern bread I like and that's Killer Daves' Bread. So much flavor with natural ingredients and the company provides second chances to nonviolent prisoners who made a mistake such as drugs, stealing or other minor crimes. Stealing to feed ones family should not be viewed in the same light as rape, child molestation and murder.
I honestly feel like if we had a mix of the Victorian with modern equipment people would flock to it. Fresh butchered meats, fresh baked breads by actual bakers taste so much better than what you can get in grocery stores.
This is a really difficult thing to pull off with all the shopkeepers recreating the Victorian era, but the shoppers are modern day. The shopkeepers have been schooled and have to follow rules, but the shoppers don't.
Me and my family still use those sausage fillers. We’re from Eastern Europe, so it is a tradition to buy a pig for Christmas, and make your own sausages, and meats. Tastes better than any sausage that you’ll buy out there in the stores. You basically put whatever you want in them. Paprika, garlic, salt, pepper. My favorite one is the dried one.
A few weeks before my Father passed away, he told me that his Scottish Grandfather was hanged in New South Wales Australia for making adulterated bread with Gypsum. A long time ago it was made Law that Bread was not to be tickled with.
The bread- our family makes bread. The trick is a nice active starter and salt balance. Your bread you’re making tomorrow your rising the day and night before. They didn’t have commercial yeast then.
I was appalled when the baker added sawdust and other fillers to the bread. Then I did some research and learned about Cellulose, which I thought was a type of sugar. I've seen this ingredient in almost everything we consume today, especially cheese and fiber-rich foods. Saw dust (wood pulp) is about 40% Cellulose. Many fast food places such as McDonald's and Taco Bell use this in their foods, as well as many prepackaged foods we see on shelves. It's also used to make paper products and cardboard. It's everywhere. But apparently it's perfectly safe to eat and helps with digestion. I had no idea. 🤷
my grandmother owned a small hotel on the english coast, she had high standards and worked extraordinarily hard expecting her suppliers to do the same, supplies were delivered daily from the local grocer butcher dairy and if anything arrived broken or otherwise not to standard she would return it, it was not unheard of for the delivery boy to cycle three miles and back with one cracked egg!
Imagine being that IRL baker and realizing that your husband values your knowledge so little that he’ll just ignore you when the time comes. He’s really showing his whole @$$ by ignoring her expertise.
you can use salty bread to bulk up sauces, stews and soups. especially when it's got a flavorful fat in it like butter or lard it tastes even better. you can also slice it and make toast with an egg on and you don't even need to salt the egg. also an easier way to stretch your flour to make as many loafs as possible is to add mashed potatoes and push them through a strainer to get a good consistency, you can make really delicious bread with it.
@@kelath5555 I belive the best would've been waiting for the wood to burn down, untill there's no more flames, just embers, and then place the pies IN/right next to, said embers, pefect warmth for "baking pies".
The real moral of the story is don't go out to drink with your bloody mates while you're in the middle of baking Pies. Christ on the cross who does that right before a deadline. Lol
This program was mesmerizing! I learned so much about how hard our ancestors worked and what their lives were like. I'm thinking this show should do a similar here in the states and bring back some old forgotten inner city area with old culture and era products.
What an incredibly wonderful social experiment. This would be a great ongoing living history experience. Kudos to all the participants for all their had work to recreate this!
I feel so bad for the baker, she was so excited in the beginning 😭
She made out wonderfully.
The first few episodes of the series was to show how a lot of the potential of Women was ignored in Victorian, Great Britain.
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Well she is quite successful outside of this if it helps.
Those old fashioned loaves of bread she was baking (10:28-10:42) looked so much better than the white commercial processed crap most people today buy
the way her husband was like "start working wench" and then proceeded to not heed her advice about measuring any of the ingredients resulting in bad bread that caused them financial losses that week...... sooo unnecessary lmao did not like that guy
"We're Victorian bakers. We don't have a conscience."
That got me in stitches. The mother must be horrified to sell the goods.
No that's s lie.
She does it everyday. But pretends for the camera.
All you need for bread is flour and water.
fats, sugar, and salt are for flavor.
yeast or soda is for airy bread.
I've made my own bread for years.
Also flour can be make from any grain, pea, or bean. Flour is just turning them into dust.
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They could create a “Victorian experience” in Shepton as a tourist attraction. They could open those shops exactly the way they did for the documentary. People could come to town and live their vacation the way people lived daily lives during Victorian times. I’m sure many would love the experience. And it would create many jobs and awake the town from its sleepiness.
That sounds like a good idea to me. I’m in, if it ever happens!
100% agree
we have this called Sturbridge Village in Massachusetts
@@neverstopz9045... We've been there a few times. It was a great experience every time!
I sure would go there
The ironsmith getting choked up by being so valued and proud of his work- loved that! Trades are so undervalued. After the recent winter storms in Texas, people have started to value the trades more (plumbers, utility workers). Same as how grocery workers were more valued after Covid.
After covid? It's not over.. we kept ig away where I live & work for 2 y.. im recovering from covid at this moment.. we have had the same number infected since the start, when omikron got here...
In china they have a huge surge in cases.. numbers not seen since the worst wave, when the epidemic started, almost 2.5 y ago.
Sorry, but it hasen't gone anywhere..
The baker's manual said female baker's were rare not that they weren't allowed or didn't exist. What's the point of bringing in a baker and then not letting her do anything useful?
She could do the prep work and limited baking.
Exactly! The baker wife know what she is doing and seeing her husband fail
I thought the same but I assume it's because they're planning on bringing her into more and more involved roles as the episodes progress to reflect women's increasing rights through the decades
To prove a point rofl. You're skilled and capable, but it's a man world so you got to stand by and watch your husband fail because your role in society is elsewhere.
I worked in a bakery which had been founded in the 19th. century. It had been handed down through my uncle’s family. Not very much modern machinery had been introduced. There is a simple reason why it was though not to be a woman’s job. Before large electric mixers, hundreds of pounds of ingredients had to be mixed. One had to handle 100 lb. sacks of sugar and flour. From rolling the vast amounts of dough, the bakers’ arms looked like weight lifters. It was a very physical job.
Customers at those Victorian shops are whining about how long the wait is for orders. They need to slow their lives right the hell down.
I know right? "We've been waiting for 5 min" and???? As if that's a long time to wait. Besides they can see everything's by hand, just wait the fuck off jesus.
You have to remember we are an instant gratification society, not one of those people has ever bought anything that wasn't in a Department store or Supermarket. The whole idea behind this is to make the regular people see what life was like a century and a half ago. And the shopkeepers got an eye opener as well.
@@Rorr59, I regularly wait that long in a grocery, it's not that unusual. Of course, I'm not gen X,Y, or Z.
@@bcaye I was thinking the same thing. Waiting is check out lines takes time
Back away from the ego.
These customers really need to get a grip, what an amazing opportunity and the majority of them were being such brats.
I am just finishing watching The Tudor Farm series and now this, lol.
You are easily the best channel on UA-cam.
It's could have been worse. It could have been a bunch of Karens in America.
In past, things went slower than today's fast pace world
the whole BBC historical farm series is great. Edwardian farm Victorian farm the separate Victorian series regarding the apothecary etc also wartime farm is very educational regarding how families and everybody cope during world war II
@@semi-san1736 Hey, although there are Karen's and Daren's in every part of the world----- I'm Mexican American and I totally agree with that 100% of American Karens. American and Australian Karen's are the absolute most ridiculous.
It’s realistic in that many modern people couldn’t handle it
I'm disappointed we didn't see the actual baker present their best effort within the historic constraints.
A missed opportunity!
No doubt! 🤦
That lady looked to be a great baker
Well the thing about that I find weird is that they did not allow her to bake in the Victorian era.
When in reality she would have been allowed to do so.
Their documents and pictures that show womem running bakeries and helpin make the bread itself
Actually in the other documentary "Victorian Bakers" they showed that women did help in the baking ( allowing the woman in their team to help).
As well as showing that one of the participant's family business . Was actually started by his great aunt
@@davriecaro3036: Well, you know, gotta keep up with the prevailing sentiment of man is Alpha King, and woman is dainty wallflower in 19th century England.
@@davriecaro3036 I could see women not being allowed in bakery's that were owned by others and hiring journeymen to do the work because in some cases men were locked into the bakery. I do see smaller businesses owned by individual families utilizing all the family members that were able-bodied. The larger the business the harder it was and could see large companies not allowing women, it was one of the most labor intensive jobs as well as underpaid even when labor laws were in the works to being changed Baker's were left out such as the ten hour work day. Baker's and the worker* were not protected or considered because of the high demand of the product.
It bugs me so much when the people complain about the general store wait times, "what you're telling me it takes time with no technology to give me my goods? Pfft nooo"
Even with Technology. In Eastern Europe, we still have corner bakeries, and sometimes it would get very busy. Like lines that go up to the end of the street. I guess some people still like fresh baked bread.
We all want it now. Thats our generations fault. We have no patience.
@@aurorajones8481 I have tons of patience, where I live Amazon doesn't even have same day shipping, so if I order something now I wont get it until tomorrow afternoon!
@@aurorajones8481 A very good statement! It also works with information, and we feed on it. Usually they don't care if it's right just as long as it's first and people straight believe it.
One of the problems today is that we eat a more varied diet. So these people are going in looking for a bunch of stuff where as back in the day most people would only buy a few things at a time. Also it was common for people to bring in a list and leave it with the shop keeper and come back later for there order.
Is it bad that when the Grocer said that the food in Victorian times were purer I burst out laughing because I already knew the lengths they would got to stretch the product they had to the absolute limit by contaminating them. Even if it was at expense to the customer...
Sad that people know a lot of ingredients are carcinogens but still use them anyway even in modern times!
@@oooh19yes and so many food manufacturers are still adding poisonous additives or artificial colors to foods. Times haven't changed as much as we would hope.
Depended on the seller, there were the cheats. But plenty of Victorian food was actually purer. Way before certain ingredients.
Right the crap they used to make bread is crazy
The baker’s wife: “I wouldn’t add any more salt”
The baker: *dumps in the entire container of salt*
What a jerk, honestly. 🤨
There is something about that guy where he is dead set on being a massive screw up.
I agree. To be fair, the wife later burning the butcher's pies spoiled her resume a bit. Yet, in all, they're all great sports for signing up for this.
I think Carolyn was amazingly tolerant. She wasn't even supposed to go into the space where thebutchers pies were burning but she didn't let the building burn down and not a word of complaint did I hear.
@@nonameno8065 She didn't burn them as she would not be allowed anywhere near the oven in the first place. The oven was way too hot as well, they usually don't use open fire either, but instead, wait until the fire was out then used the residual heat to bake. at least that what I learn after watching so many of this historical show
Total Jerk! Its like he relished the fact of simply going against her
I love this whole video but "what a fat son of unmarried parentage" is the best quote ever
(What a fat son of unmarried parentage)
@@davonneaarons9620 thank you for the correction!
After he said that I repeated it a few times before I realized what it was. Lol
@@HighReeve1982 what is it?
@@leannemori9688 a bastard lol
It's amazing how these modern kids really worked hard for the families to be successful.
No one make great historical shows like the British.
I'm trying to imagine stranding a bunch of americans in the middle of the desert and having to re-do the oregon trail and lord they'd all be dead
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@@paddyotterness Agreed, and that is true for all of North America. But if you want more good historical content, I can recommend a few good youtube channels: Lindybeige, Kraut, Brandon F., History Buffs, and Horrible Histories.
It sounds like you watched shows from lots of other countries, in lots of languages.
@@erynn9968 I've watched shows from Canada, the US, and Australia. So maybe I was comparing it to the Commonwealth, or Anglosphere.
I enjoyed this, aside from the bakers. What was the point of bringing in an expert only to make her watch her idiot husband mess up every step? I feel so bad for her
It deeply bothered me that they got a fool to replace her and then she wasn't allowed to teach them. That was a 'fuck off' lesson in sexism.
so well said! The producers and Devlin actually sabotaged the show. Deliberate malfeasance, that jackass with the salt container......forcing out the expert...might as well have the grocers be the bakers in this era.....
And I do wonder about the assertion that women weren't bakers, nor helped with baking, as they wouldn't allow them to touch a thing.
They were inconsistent there, the women at the grocers were not allowed to be front of shop (and that would have been true of those times) but they were allowed to be behind the scenes working, weighing, measuring and packing for customers. Whereas at the bakery they had her in the shop but then was not allowed to be behind the scenes involved in preparation and baking of the bread.
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For the grocery store I think it was only to be the face of the shop, whereas baking is a whole process which mostly men did.
@@thornyback The Victorian Era was actually a sexist era, so fuck off ladies was a thing.
The way the grocer giggled at the sunscreen request cracked me up. Did they not tell the buyer participants that the sellers had to create and package all their products. Also sunscreen would’ve been a pharmacy item back then if it even existed (I’m positive it didn’t)
Yeah that's why they wore bonnets and long sleeves in the summer pretty sure.
Sunscreen = bonnets, hats,scarves,long sleeves, long pants and parasols.
Especially spf 30 🤭 ma'am where do you think you are
I thought she said sourcream.
They were called a chemist back then and they made everything!
That baker dude needs to listen to his damn wife. Lol.
He needs to remember these people don't have the oral palates of the past as well. They own modern palates, and desire modern foods made a certain way. Especially if the customers are to give up their grocer for a whole week. I personally couldn't do it due to health reasons
What would happen to you if you didnt have a choiceice
Yeah what's his problem? He has no idea what he's doing, their bakery business outside of this show would be nothing without his wife, the actual baker.
Taste buds are a more appropriate word.
Yeah what he like, really role playing or something?
They should do the whole street in Victorian shops and run it every weekend at least. It would be a tourist destination.
When i try to buy a British vacation, they just kinda laugh, tell me to wait another yr
They should turn neighborhoods into the Victorian era on a daily year round basis.
I'd go to a Victorian theme park where you can eat and buy the eras products.
Blists Hill and Beamish are both excellent.
@@edi9892 maybe not the plaster bread though
That little old lady has been so sweet in all the episodes. She is adorable!
Yes, she's a real sweetheart! She's like the lovely grandma all kids would love to have!
The baker's wife (you know, the actual master baker) is wayyy nicer than I would have been in that case.
31:00 Ummm... Why is the Baker going to learn from someone else how to bake bread when all he has to do is put his ego aside and actually LISTEN to his own WIFE who is a professional Baker and does this for a living day in day out? If he had listened to her input in the first place, the bread would not have been so salty, burnt on the outside and undercooked on the inside.
She wasn't allowed to intervene. She didn't advise him.
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@@RMF76 Yes she did. She tried to. The narration specifically says he ignored her
The role description said baking was man's work and women had very limited participation. Sales I'd guess?
Ignoring female knowledge about traditional men's work seems to me to be pretty stereotypically Victorian
@@johnyarbrough502 They should of said screw it and just had her do it. They said it was rare in the description.
"Can I ask why?"
"Because I haven't."
What on earth did she expect him to say?
Right!? People ate with the seasons. Mushrooms are a Fall thing.
The wife is a master baker. Maybe he should just listen to her.
He cant due to Victoria time women dont have a voice
He can't listen to his wife back then women had no education
@@heathergutierrez8174 Geez, it wasn't that bad. It was Victorian times; only the elites had voices. Most men would still take advice from their wife, especially in a situation like this. Most men wouldn't risk their livelihood just because they didn't want to listen to their wife.
Lol I know right!!! I think it's an ego problem. He just wants to do it his own way considering the fact that he has NO idea what he's doing. 🙄
Woman were expected to do the cooking but I guess that rule only applied to cooking for the family especially the husband. It appearently doesn't apply to cooking in a business. Women back then were treated like slaves and beneath men. ☹️
When I’m in Paris, I do all my shopping at the open markets. The poultry and fish is sold intact because the head is the first part to start going off. By selling it as it grew, the merchant is showing you how fresh his meats are and that you are indeed purchasing the breed of bird you are paying for. Yes, the shop will clean your purchase for you.
At most markets in rural France as well.
As long as they clean it. I sometimes feel hypocritical for not being willing to do it myself but just couldn't.
My earliest memory of my maternal grandmother is her skinning and gutting a rabbit. I must have been about 3 years old. Probably bought at the local village butcher, or perhaps shot by someone she knew. People did that in those days (and they still do). It’s a bit surprising that there are people out there who don’t know where meat comes from, and are amazed when they’re told ‘beef comes from cows’. And they thought it came from Sainsbury’s.
@@Orwic1 I always think of Mrs. Howel, the rich lady on the old Gilligan's Island show, saying, "I've seen beets in their natural habitat...the Super Market."
@@everdinestenger1548 At our local French market they have the rabbits still alive in cages. I haven't had the nerve to ask if you have to kill them yourself or if if they will kill and clean them for you.....
That baker has a massive ego. Why not just listen to his wife?
Seriously!
Did they just bring her along to break her spirit? Because you could see that she was dying inside. 😣
Not supposed to.
And he needed lessons from another guy... not his wife XD
He really had some issues!
@@paddyotterness you're not a real smart fella are you Patrick?
The baker's were far more cringy than they needed to be. There was absolutely nothing stopping the husband from taking directions from the actual baker.
Men will be men lol
It’s just for TV.
that wouldn't have been as fun for tv unfortunately
The work was so difficult bakers were expected to die before age 40! The wife would be able to take over soon.
That's the stupidity of this series. Perhaps they thought it would be more entertaining. How ridiculous. This speaks less about the difficult conditions of the Victorians than it does about abysmally incompetent modern people who've lost all basic skills for food making a survival.
The looks of horror from the locals at seeing how meat is butchered, are priceless to someone from a farming background.
When my dad was 4 years old, he and his mother were snowed-in, with no food. She took him out to the barn, handed him the hatchet, held down a chicken. He did what he had to.
it confused me, couldn't understand why they were so shocked and squeamish, guess they'd never seen a dead animal before
It boggles my mind how removed from the basics of life urban dwellers are. I think it’s lent to the misunderstandings between rural/urban dwellers
@@margaretqueenofscots9450 right, yeah, it's like people have no idea how things work.
yes I remember a similar situation, although we don't have a farm so i'm afraid the labrador got it
I can understand the children being a bit put off by the Butcher, but adults who are not Vegetarians being shocked at a butchershop is worse than moronic, if you don't know and understand where your food comes from and what you are eating you shouldn't be allowed to eat at all.
I'm really happy that in my town small dedicated shops are still a major thing. Supermarkets are popular, but a lot of people still buy at smaller grocer's or butcher's. It gives you the opportunity to do exactly what the customers described, you see people you know, you communicate, mingle and get to buy locally made goods and pick out the stuff you actually want to buy. It's bliss.
I like the butcher guy, he seems like the one of them who were "made" for it all (not counting his "pies")
In 2nd place would be the blacksmith.
It was a shame that the bakers wife couldn't teach him.
I will say to a certain extent that to be fair, the butcher is the easiest sell. The baker is a bit of an ass but he's also using money-saving techniques that were common but accepted whereas of course today's buyers would NEVER accept it. Do you know what most could easily be convinced into buying though? Pork.
It served the baker right he was getting advice from his wife a master baker and he did what he wanted . It would.have served him right if his children would have gone to the work house . The joke would have been an an awaking. Only his children would have payed the price not him .
The way bread was made in those times was one of the main things that lead to the food adulteration act. Sad today it need to be slammed in today.
China is pretty creative in that regard
In the USA it was how filthy the food packing factories were. Led to creation of the FDA.
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What a whiny group of shoppers! I can’t believe they weren’t advised of the details of Victorian shopping! The man in the grocers complaining waiting for *gasp* 15 whole minutes!! Just rude people
@Allen, MacKenzie perhaps Covid has some silver linings after all
To be fair though that kind of thing is the reason why tiny victorian shops fell out of favor. Why spend your whole day waiting for some salty bread made by a man who will die before middle age only to find out when you finally get home that it's not edible when you can go to the super market and grab a loaf of always uniform, always the same bread made in a sparkling clean factory with careful regulations, blast through check out, and get on with your life? We look back at these shops now with rose tinted glasses just like we do stores like Blockbuster but at the end of the day there are real economic reasons why they aren't around anymore just like why they don't run wooden four wheel train carriages with no hallways or bathrooms pulled by steam engines on commuter lines anymore.
They should have gone for the Wallmart.
Exactly! And these are the same folks who'll cheerfully wait an hour for a table at their favorite sushi restaurant!!
Honestly I agree. I half feel the lady in the polka-dot shirt (grey short hair) was intentionally told to complain- but asking about modern day sauces?! Learn your history woman
I think the trouble with the oven is that the fire is to heat the inside of it. When it's hot enough, you remove the fire, and the radiant heat gently bakes the food. Whereas, cooking with the direct heat of the fire will burn the food.
Why are they sending people with modern day shopping lists to Victorian shops. The lady asking for sunscreen was ridiculous.
sunscreen? sure have an umbrella lol
yep, fake as ......
You never know.
They did make sunscreen
how are the customers supposed to know what was available in Victorian times unless they're experts?
I can't believe ppl aren't swarming the butcher shop! With all the processed meats in stores these days, I wish I could source from a local butcher all the time.
Wet and Dry Market or just Wet Markets?
We have a local butcher where you can even visit the farm. It's just down the road from the shop.
"We're Victorian bakers. We don't have a conscience." Love it! 😂
When you saw how busy that marketplace was in the end was heart warming. I think this was a fabulous experiment... well done guys.
I literally smiled the ENTIRE time, we live in a historical area and LOVE the Victorian events
The Pork Man apparently doesn’t know how a wood fired oven works. You don’t stick the items in with a roaring fire going; you heat the oven bricks with the fire and leave some - not a lot - of residual coals.
Bhaha, when the butcher burnt the pies and the master baker came to take them out “you can’t blame me, I’m a woman, I’m not supposed to be in here 😂”
I laughed so hard 😩😂😂😂
Bet those kids never cried "Mom, I'm bored, there's nothing to do" So much work involved in just trying to live in those days. Great show.
Ppl these days are cry babies just because they are 'bored' staying at home to save themselves from corona🐁
During the Victorian era even kids, unless they were from upper class, would find themselves working countless hours after school.
@@mayshusakuhanamurasufferli5438 that all started WELL before Covid.
I'd be happy to pay extra to shop at one of these if they had one in my city. Its not just about the goods but the experience also
Ugh! Dear Baker, JUST LISTEN TO CAROLINE!! I want to shake him on Caroline’s behalf 😭😭😭
I think the producers asked him not to, to provide people with “gasp!” Material
He can’t listen to her guys, this is the victorian era she isn’t a baker so she won’t know.
I think the blacksmith should start making kitchen knives demonstrating how sharp they are, especially to the butchers
So women bakers were rare but not unheard of! Instead of declaring her to be one of the rarities, they go for the typical tv drama crap. I'm out.
This show want to show "regular" victorian life so they need to stick with what is the norm at the time
I said the same thing..... Very historically INACCURATE... more of a modern political twist rather than what was really going on at the time.
Kinda like all the people sneering at the butchers meat..... As IF that many people actually have a problem with seeing meat being cut up... I think they must have rounded up a handful of the most sheltered, ignorant customers they could possibly find to create the narrative they were after.... I know lots of modern, upper-class people who prefer getting their meats from a butcher rather than a supermarket....but this show makes it seem like its just SUCH an oddity... Lol
@@v.b.4622 so, I'm American. Not British. This is absolutely what I would expect from anybody not raised around farms, and that's the vast majority of people in the US. My mom SCREAMS at the idea of any of my chickens becoming dinner and actually slapped me once for offering to butcher one for her.
as a russian i would expect such a reaction too. most of us live in cities and we dont usually see how the meat on the shelves is prepared. sadly here it s much more profitable either to have a big corporation or to buy a franchise of a big corporation and sell stuff in huge amounts. so sole traders is a quite rare bussiness, and more, some shops even aquiered cashier-free model, so this individual approach, everything hand made and carefully wrapped in crafted paper as well as the show they put on beforehand - has really been an insight for me, and i would react absolutely the same as those customers. would even add a wee of drama cuz it s quite hard for me to watch animals being axed chopped and ripped like that
Agreed.
I love this series. It hits home because my uncle was the local baker in my hometown in Connecticut. The large commercial bakeries, which sell via the supermarket chains put him out.
On a positive note, the town where I now live has a privately run butcher. Every time I shop there, he is very busy. I think things are starting to come full circle.
The little boy at 51:48 is adorable!
This whole experiment was amazing. 💗 I know it’s a ridiculous amount of work, with quite a learning curve, but I think I would enjoy being apart of something like this!
Obviously none of these customers ever had to wait up to 30 minutes at a penny candy counter among a mob of grade schoolers for their turn. lol
Or remembered being children who went shopping with their parents and had to patiently stand in the line and behave in the shop in order to be able to pick a small treat.
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Oh my goodness I have been looking for this show for forever! I saw it when it first came on and then could never find it again. Thank you for adding it to the channel!
Thank you for uploading this, I have really vivid memories of watching this while my mum was sick and in the final stages of cancer and we loved watching this together
The Devlins seem to be really nice people and good parents - they've evidently taught their kids to be polite, respectful, well - mannered, well - behaved and hard - working.
I'm sure people back then would be very interested (or shocked) in how we shop online today.
oh yes 100%
and shocked at the death of the british high street
Comparatively, we are now are wizards doing slo mo manifestation (shipping) with a magical wand (smart phone) in our pockets.
I don't like food shopping online b/c I am worried my food wouldn't be as fresh
I mean how could you even try to explain it to them?
"OK, imagine a telegraph, but it can directly show you text and colored illustrations, and everyone has one in their home and another one in their pocket. One of the things you can use it for is reading and ordering from something like the Pryce Jones catalogue."
@@drewgehringer7813 They were not as "stupid", attempts to transmit pictures were done maybe in middle of 19th century, yes, there would be problem with wirles transmission, but in general some electric device which is able to show you pictures and connect you with somebody in different place would not be so foreign to some more educated. The concept of coding of something in form of some binary code was not that foreign to them as the already had looms controlled by punched cards.
For those who are shocked by the adding of various substances to food, read "The Good Old Days--they Were Terrible!"
by Otto Bettmann.
That baker guy annoyed the hell out of me. If they aren't going to let the professional baker bake the bread because she's a woman, get a man that can bake in the first place.
They did & he advised them to adulterate the loaves.
I would have ground up the burnt loaves and sold them as breading. Salty breading isn't as bad as salty loaves and the burnt parts won't even show.
Brilliant! Very entertaining and eye opening. I loved seeing the ship keepers’ reactions to what they had to sell, where they had to sleep, and the baker’s boy’s reaction to the chamber pit was priceless!! Well done!
I could watch a whole season of this, I love it!!!
Speaking about packing food... you may know we have in Italy what we call the "packaging valley".
A smart woman, Maria Toschi Corazza, who ran a grocery in the early '50s, asked her husband to build a machine for packing the glutammate, because she was tired of making so many small packages. That machine worked as a charm and it was the beginning of an entire industry which today involves about 200 companies which makes pakaging machines in Emilia Romagna. Something valued a bit less of 50% of the entire world production of packaging machines.
And everything started in a small grocery.
Love learning and seeing anything about the past , it’s the most interesting to think our ancestors lived this way , did things this way , and worked so very hard , it’s just so fascinating ,thank you people for doing this project for the world to witness ! Bravo to you all ! 🙏❤️🇨🇦
No matter if I do or don’t end up homeschooling, these videos are a very useful teaching tool to teach bits of history in a fun way.
Good idea !!😆
Try "Victorian bakers" serie, "Absolute history" upload them on youtube, there is link: ua-cam.com/video/Sa8eWuGZzMc/v-deo.html . This is good serie, but "Victorian bakers" are in my opinion even better.
Amazing how many people don't mind eating meat but at the same time don't want to think where it cam from or what it took to get it to their table.
I love butcher shops. There is a local one 40 min from my house and it is so great to have it.
I certainly don't mind watching someone process the animal. You know you are getting the FRESHEST cuts that way.
Would love seeing these shows replicated in the United States.
Oh no you wouldnt hahaha, read Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" to get an idea of what the meat industry was like prior to the creation of the FDA.
Hint: It wasnt nice
As an American, I really enjoy these British history videos. However, it irked me that the baker's wife wasn't allowed to help, and the bread turned out to be an absolute DISASTER. Surely they could have bent the rules and let her help, because I'm sure that even in that era, baker's wives at least knew SOMETHING about baking bread, especially if they had a family to feed, and it's quite possible that some wives would have helped their husbands in the bakery out of necessity, if the need arose. Otherwise, it was an enjoyable episode. I also found it amusing that, in the segment where they were unloading the giant cheese, they were playing "Stars and Stripes Forever," an American tune that is so patriotic that it's often played at Fourth of July fireworks displays -- on a BRITISH TV show!
Loved this! Newport, Ky tried to help its downtown area in a similar way. By letting people open up "pop up" shops in empty storefronts for a month or so. It seemed to work well.
''We're victorian bakers, we dont have a conscience''
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Awsome to see this ! I was a kid in the 1960s and remember my granny going into all the old style shops ..butchers bakers the green grocers .etc in our town ..I remember queuing in the butchers and a man dropped a tin of peas on my head when I was little..I've not been right since ! Lols and the old goat didn't apologise either !
Why would they hire a female master baker if they were just going to sideline her right off?? 😡
This was infuriating to watch! Especially since her stubborn husband ignored everything about the trade and all of her advice. I wanted to put him in a flour sack and throw him in the river, that would have been a step up for the business.
@Nicholas P You must get a lot of work in the Idea and THOUGHT police.
I mean they do a different time period every episode. She’s not sidelined forever. Geez.
I watched a full documentary by Absolute history how they made bread in Victorian time, man, that was just so eye opening and when I looked at their face when they heard what other ingredients people used back in that time...
This is great! I am looking forward to watch the Edwardian era episode.
Me too!
Psst.. this isn’t a new series. This channel is reposting old shows. It’s at least 10 years old.lol
The wood fired bakery sounds amazing. I can see that staying in business long after this.
I am not even from the UK and I got hyped for Market day . XD Really wish I could be there to experience this. I love this channel Thank you please don't ever stop making videos and teaching us History
It's a pity the public weren't given a brief of what to expect from the recreated shops. I'm 68 and remember shops very similar to this in the 1960s in Thirsk.I know that the grocer was different to the greengrocer but the customers even the older ones seemed to be entirely ignorant
Walter Wilsons ( the grocer) weighed coffee, bacon, cheese and other dry goods etc according to how much you wanted. Biscuits were sold from large glass topped tins and and weighed into paper bags. The butcher who kept his own beasts had two shops in the market place. One shop was a pork butchers and the other for everything else including cooked ham and pork pies. The ironmongers sold everything conceivable that rural folk might need from light bulbs and candles to all sorts of substances not allowed these days. The pharmacist sold toiletries and also medicines for humans and farm animals alike
I really hope Absolute History shows all of this series.
That was brilliant 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 a walk down memory lane... a place where mine nana - grandmother grew up pre to Victorian times in Somerset... along with great aunties and uncles and cousins.. I place my grandmother wanted to see one more time before she died in London... back in the sixties unfortunately she never was able to make it back... but my mom and I went to Somerset to make up for what my grandmother wasn't able to do and then my mom died... about four months later....
It shows how time has changed. Waiting 10 minutes feels like an eternity, but in the Vic. Era it would have been normal to wait quite a while for things and not think of it as a long time.
Adulterated bread was a killer. I could never do it.
There is one modern bread I like and that's Killer Daves' Bread. So much flavor with natural ingredients and the company provides second chances to nonviolent prisoners who made a mistake such as drugs, stealing or other minor crimes. Stealing to feed ones family should not be viewed in the same light as rape, child molestation and murder.
You would have starved, and your children sent to the Workhorse
I honestly feel like if we had a mix of the Victorian with modern equipment people would flock to it. Fresh butchered meats, fresh baked breads by actual bakers taste so much better than what you can get in grocery stores.
I love how excited the blacksmith was when he saw the forge setup
"I could make the gates to Buckingham palace with this"
This is a really difficult thing to pull off with all the shopkeepers recreating the Victorian era, but the shoppers are modern day. The shopkeepers have been schooled and have to follow rules, but the shoppers don't.
The little girl looking at the pig and saying "that's why I wanna be a vegetarian" had me in stitches!
Me and my family still use those sausage fillers. We’re from Eastern Europe, so it is a tradition to buy a pig for Christmas, and make your own sausages, and meats. Tastes better than any sausage that you’ll buy out there in the stores. You basically put whatever you want in them. Paprika, garlic, salt, pepper. My favorite one is the dried one.
A few weeks before my Father passed away, he told me that his Scottish Grandfather was hanged in New South Wales Australia for making adulterated bread with Gypsum. A long time ago it was made Law that Bread was not to be tickled with.
The bread- our family makes bread. The trick is a nice active starter and salt balance. Your bread you’re making tomorrow your rising the day and night before. They didn’t have commercial yeast then.
My region has some pretty weak yeast, the rise takes about two days but the result is delicious
Wouldn't they have a mother dough
sour dough is different from the type of bread they were making.
oh man i wish i grew up with baking in my childhood
I really hope you upload the rest of this series! I'm hooked~
I was appalled when the baker added sawdust and other fillers to the bread. Then I did some research and learned about Cellulose, which I thought was a type of sugar. I've seen this ingredient in almost everything we consume today, especially cheese and fiber-rich foods. Saw dust (wood pulp) is about 40% Cellulose. Many fast food places such as McDonald's and Taco Bell use this in their foods, as well as many prepackaged foods we see on shelves. It's also used to make paper products and cardboard. It's everywhere. But apparently it's perfectly safe to eat and helps with digestion. I had no idea. 🤷
my grandmother owned a small hotel on the english coast, she had high standards and worked extraordinarily hard expecting her suppliers to do the same, supplies were delivered daily from the local grocer butcher dairy and if anything arrived broken or otherwise not to standard she would return it, it was not unheard of for the delivery boy to cycle three miles and back with one cracked egg!
Imagine being that IRL baker and realizing that your husband values your knowledge so little that he’ll just ignore you when the time comes. He’s really showing his whole @$$ by ignoring her expertise.
I’d be thinking divorce lol
Since they've been married for some years, I suspect she was already well aware of that fact!
I suspect the directors instructed him to do that to add drama to the video
She can’t be a baker so she can’t give him directions obviously.
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"Female bakers were rare"
you can use salty bread to bulk up sauces, stews and soups. especially when it's got a flavorful fat in it like butter or lard it tastes even better. you can also slice it and make toast with an egg on and you don't even need to salt the egg. also an easier way to stretch your flour to make as many loafs as possible is to add mashed potatoes and push them through a strainer to get a good consistency, you can make really delicious bread with it.
THAT was neat. I'd love to go there and see them all, and buy something.
The iron monger was wonderful I want one of his candlestick holders and candles
47:52 Moral: Do NOT leave your pork pies in a far too hot stone oven.
As soon as I saw that roaring fire I thought, "Those things are going up like firestarter logs!"
@@kelath5555 I belive the best would've been waiting for the wood to burn down, untill there's no more flames, just embers, and then place the pies IN/right next to, said embers, pefect warmth for "baking pies".
The real moral of the story is don't go out to drink with your bloody mates while you're in the middle of baking Pies. Christ on the cross who does that right before a deadline. Lol
This program was mesmerizing! I learned so much about how hard our ancestors worked and what their lives were like. I'm thinking this show should do a similar here in the states and bring back some old forgotten inner city area with old culture and era products.
“What a fat son of unmarried parentage!” 😂😂
What an incredibly wonderful social experiment. This would be a great ongoing living history experience. Kudos to all the participants for all their had work to recreate this!
Why doesn't the baker just ask his wife how to bake rather than going to a stranger?
Because egotism and stupidity 🙄
Because women weren't real people back then, apparently. /jk
@@yuppers1 no, they were considered chattel... not much better than property.... seriously.
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Me and Annie Lennox still fighting against that mentality.
@@darthtaiter because he wasn't supposed to.
I think it's an eye opener, before in time, shopping took as long as it took... we are spoiled doing every shopping quickly. Take a breath and see....
Incredible episode.
If only the baker would have listened to his wife...
The narrator says the Devlins are from Wales - but Nigel sounds as if he's a Geordie. It's great to hear a fellow Geordie on TV!
I feel so much for Caroline. If I was her, I would have walked away after the first 2 days.
I didn't feel bad for Caroline. I thought she was a whiny, spoilt brat. I felt bad for Rafe and Chloe having her as a mother!
What a wonderful production! Congratulations! It was a very realistic Victorian experience.