What an incredible unit! We have nothing but great things to say about Trinnov. We appreciate you having us on the channel Jiles and are excited to help any of your viewers that are interested in this amazing processor or anything else audio video related! Thanks again for sharing!
Unfortunately, I don't know if that will ever happen. Certain premium brands' products' value never decrease. For example, have you tried to look for used B&W Diamond D2s, or a more recent model would be any 4k Kaleidescape Players or Storage Units? Sure, they're less than MSRP, but maybe by 10%-20% at most. Don't get me wrong; hopefully what you said can happen in a decade or so. But if I'm being realistic, I doubt it.
Nothing else comes close. I had a Denon 8500H before the Altitude 32 and the Denon was a toy. “Surround sound” was a joke, it literally was not even close to how the Trinnov decodes surround.
Have had one for two years. Previously reviewed and owned other megabucks prepro's and not one matched the trinnov for the ability to produce superb sound in my media room. Does esp, of up to 20 speKERS, room correction, speaker time alignment and speaker position correction, can act as a four driver crossover, among myriad other things. After reviewing I bought it at full price. Well worth it.
I watched a few unboxings and saw that there was a 3D microphone inside the box. But I couldn't find any such information on Trinnov's own website. Do you have any information about this?
Very clever but in terms of absolute sound quality is it head and shoulders above the rest of the competition which cost several thousand pounds (I’m in the U.K.) less?
@@JilesMcCoy yes sir, and this is the type of "fix" I expected from my processor/room correction. Whilst amplification and tweaking help, what you are talking about is worth the investment. Exactly why so many subscribe to Trinnov as the end game processor. Thank you for your review.
I know it’s 16 channels but does that include the subwoofer or is it 16 channels plus the LFE with the external DAC option? I guess I’m asking would this be up to 9.4.6 or 9.4.7?
If i were looking to upgrade, likely an AVM 90 at lower cost. Perhaps you will have the opportunity to set one up in your HT and comment on how similar or different it sounds vs the Trinnov. Meaningful comments when sorting out a purchase. @@JilesMcCoy
Are you keeping this unit? Are you going to show measurements to display how the said technology actually works ? Would be great to see objective data to back it up
@@JilesMcCoy I had heard that Kaleidescape was offering a movie package for anyone that bought a Trinnov. Once I checked out the Trinnov 16, I think the 32 might be a better deal.
It has more features than the muse. The correction tech is difference. Its based on an x86 platform. Both are great tools and I use Acurus every day .Love them!
I don't need 32 channels in my room, but its great for those that have a need for lots of speaker locations or that need multiple channels per speaker (using the altitude as a crossover for example). Should work pretty much like a 16 but with more capacity.
@@JilesMcCoy the DSP for active was the driving force it's so smart it gives the control and hand shake for the active setup there is nothing that can compare maybe storm it's a treat. Dedicated pre amp from pro audio is about 11k so the used Trinnov was a good alternative the choice. I thank Audiosound they gave me a good deal 17k out the door. Having them tune it via IP is great the support but I haven't needed it. Thanks Jiles your an inspiration for years now I remember you videos really struck a cord thanks friend
theory Audio states you need a processor for all your components to plug into, and then to their amplifier and their speakers are hooked up to the Class D amplifier.
You state the Altitude 16,( and Amplitude 16,) are the top tier, yet my understanding is that the Altitude 32 is the top tier, flagship of Trinnov pre-pro devices.
The Altitude is so much better than my Denon 8500. The Denon was a toy compared to this. I used to think the Denon sounded great - wow, there is almost no comparison.
@ oh man, it’s night and day. Until you have one, you won’t understand. I have a small room too. Surround effect is much more accurate, customization is incredible. Room correction is literally on a different level.
@@Fluterra Yes but what is reference level for surrounds exactly ? how will you know without a pattern that the sound is closer to the one created in the studio ? i agree about speakers mapping ! this might be great possibility when in small room like mine , some of speakers are mounted in wrong place due lack of space ! Hard to imagine that sound might so much better due only processor itself IMO 😉 new better speakers , that i understand.
@ My room is 13’x14’. I have a 4.1.2 system. How will you know the sound is closer to the studio? The studio layout is known. Trinnov is remapping and adjusting phase, EQ, timing, to get it to the target.
Ultra expensive luxury processors! Trinnov Altitude 16 $19,500! Trinnov Altitude 32 $42,000! Of course they will send an engineer because it cost them half the price! The funny part is Trinnov used to be in the cheaper Sherwood AVR
@@JilesMcCoy No I meant how incredible the speakers and incredible amplifier is that drives these incredible speakers, but you need to have a processor to hook up your devices to and then out to the tiny amplifier and then out to the speakers.
@@JilesMcCoy People like to feel they have some tangible value in a product, paying the lions share for proprietary software, R&D and licensing fees scares me a bit. 😬💵💸💸💸
95% of the differentiator for this kind of gear is in the software. Thats where the value comes from. Anyone can put together a box with a HDMI switcher... but the software is where the magic lives.@@Echo-jg8is
Ya I can't belive how anyone in this day and age can afford a $18000 box. Only the rich could afford this. Or a very foolish person with the way the whole economy is inflating.
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What an incredible unit! We have nothing but great things to say about Trinnov. We appreciate you having us on the channel Jiles and are excited to help any of your viewers that are interested in this amazing processor or anything else audio video related! Thanks again for sharing!
It is absolutely amazing! If anyone needs help please click the link in the notes!
I look forward to buying a used one for $1,000 20 years from now.
😂😂😂 mee too
:)
Unfortunately, I don't know if that will ever happen. Certain premium brands' products' value never decrease. For example, have you tried to look for used B&W Diamond D2s, or a more recent model would be any 4k Kaleidescape Players or Storage Units? Sure, they're less than MSRP, but maybe by 10%-20% at most. Don't get me wrong; hopefully what you said can happen in a decade or so. But if I'm being realistic, I doubt it.
Keep dreaming. Will never happen, largely because Trinnov units are upgradeable, mainly through software.
Nothing else comes close. I had a Denon 8500H before the Altitude 32 and the Denon was a toy. “Surround sound” was a joke, it literally was not even close to how the Trinnov decodes surround.
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Me too...
Why don’t they invent snap on hdmi cables for firm connections ???
That would be cool! Kinda like display port connections?
@@JilesMcCoy if I move my avr around a little bit I have to hold the cables so it won’t come off
Best piece of kit I ever bought - no regrets
Awesome!
Have had one for two years. Previously reviewed and owned other megabucks prepro's and not one matched the trinnov for the ability to produce superb sound in my media room. Does esp, of up to 20 speKERS, room correction, speaker time alignment and speaker position correction, can act as a four driver crossover, among myriad other things. After reviewing I bought it at full price. Well worth it.
Thanks for watching.
I like the fact they have a couple of legacy outputs for when you want to connect slightly older equipment.
Right on!
I watched a few unboxings and saw that there was a 3D microphone inside the box. But I couldn't find any such information on Trinnov's own website. Do you have any information about this?
About their microphone? Yes, it’s key for the system. A must have.
@ Is there an extra charge for the microphone?
Very clever but in terms of absolute sound quality is it head and shoulders above the rest of the competition which cost several thousand pounds (I’m in the U.K.) less?
Yes
Interesting .. They have a proprietary bundle / plug for the Amp inputs. That's neat.
Makes that side of the connections really easy!
8:13 This speaks volumes for HT industry.
It is really cool that the tech can fix probelms!
@@JilesMcCoy yes sir, and this is the type of "fix" I expected from my processor/room correction. Whilst amplification and tweaking help, what you are talking about is worth the investment.
Exactly why so many subscribe to Trinnov as the end game processor. Thank you for your review.
I know it’s 16 channels but does that include the subwoofer or is it 16 channels plus the LFE with the external DAC option? I guess I’m asking would this be up to 9.4.6 or 9.4.7?
It’s 16 channels of whatever you would like. It’s more flexible than lower end units that have specific subwoofer outs.
You could do 2.14.0 if you wanted! Crazy!
@@JilesMcCoy don’t tempt me 😂
Jiles, what pre-pro were you using prior to hooking up the Trinnov?
I’ve used all kinds. Marantz, Denon, Onkyo, Acurus, etc.
And I have some new gems to try out soon too!!!
If i were looking to upgrade, likely an AVM 90 at lower cost. Perhaps you will have the opportunity to set one up in your HT and comment on how similar or different it sounds vs the Trinnov. Meaningful comments when sorting out a purchase. @@JilesMcCoy
I'd love to do that. I don't have any contacts there unfortunately. @@scruffy8861
Are you keeping this unit? Are you going to show measurements to display how the said technology actually works ? Would be great to see objective data to back it up
It’s a loaner. If I could keep it I would though. The next video will show the UI and it does include some measurement data.
My boy Jiles!! Yet another awesome video!
Thank you!
how long did it take to calibrate?
I spent about 45 minutes with the pro for that. I had everything ready to rock at start time though.
@@JilesMcCoy thanks Jiles. Did u do any additional tweaks after that? Dialing to taste? 😇
@@RobinMoran I promptly ripped everything apart and started swapping subs. I need to do it all again now :)
@@JilesMcCoy oh ok. but good to know that the Trinnov finally pumped out the potential of the room. thanks for answering my queries
@@RobinMoran You are welcome. It did an amazing job with the room!
Hi boss didn you had althe acurus
Still do!!!
Thank you for the demo and info well done 👏🏼 👍🏼🏴🇬🇧
Glad you liked it!
Is the trinnov as good as the Marantz AV10 or Cinema 40?
Better in my opinion.
Can you compare perlisten speakers to the new aperion cinema line?
Gosh, Id need some Perlisten to do a comparison with. Love to do it though!
This would do wonders for my 5.1.2 living room setup.
It does wonders for any setup! If you want more details drop your info in the link in the notes.
Price ?
Just drop your info in the link in the notes and I’ll get pricing out to you.
Is there some special between Kaleidescape & Trinnov?
They are both just top devices.
@@JilesMcCoy I had heard that Kaleidescape was offering a movie package for anyone that bought a Trinnov. Once I checked out the Trinnov 16, I think the 32 might be a better deal.
How does it compare to the Acurus Muse?
It has more features than the muse. The correction tech is difference. Its based on an x86 platform. Both are great tools and I use Acurus every day .Love them!
@@JilesMcCoy
when will you be reviewing the Acurus ASPEQT room correction
How about the Trinnov 32 channel, instead of the 16?
I don't need 32 channels in my room, but its great for those that have a need for lots of speaker locations or that need multiple channels per speaker (using the altitude as a crossover for example). Should work pretty much like a 16 but with more capacity.
Somebody told the processor in the Altitude 32 is better than the Altitude 32
The A32 allows for digital output, so you can use an external DAC. It also has built in WiFi. Faster CPU as well.
Happy owner it's been a ride. Powering my pro audio technology setup
Very nice
@@JilesMcCoy the DSP for active was the driving force it's so smart it gives the control and hand shake for the active setup there is nothing that can compare maybe storm it's a treat. Dedicated pre amp from pro audio is about 11k so the used Trinnov was a good alternative the choice. I thank Audiosound they gave me a good deal 17k out the door. Having them tune it via IP is great the support but I haven't needed it. Thanks Jiles your an inspiration for years now I remember you videos really struck a cord thanks friend
The RS20I is also upgradable, but no support at all at this moment. Sound wise it`s on the same level as the alititude 16 i quess.
Is dataset still in business?
They have a website.... thats it ;)
theory Audio states you need a processor for all your components to plug into, and then to their amplifier and their speakers are hooked up to the Class D amplifier.
Sounds right
Trinnov, jvc projectors, kaleidiscape, etc. Things for rich people but i guess we can look for trickle down possibilities from this stuff.
Not really. Things for the enthusiast. If you know anyone driving s F150 they could have this in their theater. just depends where your passion lies.
I'm still 2.1, however I'm waiting for the first AVR 128.32.5. Should be awesome!
Coming soon.
Congratulations 🎉
woohoo!
You don't want to mention Stormaudio
I’ve got a storm processor I am working on right now!
I'm planning to buy a MK3 32ch soon
Is this a sponsored video?
No, but I wish it were :)
Storm or Trinnov?
I've not run Storm here yet.
You state the Altitude 16,( and Amplitude 16,) are the top tier, yet my understanding is that the Altitude 32 is the top tier, flagship of Trinnov pre-pro devices.
The 32 is just more channels. Yes, the Altitude 16 is top tier.
I am such a fan I have named my house, Trinnovia.
Woohoo!
The Altitude is so much better than my Denon 8500. The Denon was a toy compared to this. I used to think the Denon sounded great - wow, there is almost no comparison.
Its an amazing box!
What ? , my A1H is enough for my small room , what is in the sound that makes Trinnov so good ?????
@ oh man, it’s night and day. Until you have one, you won’t understand. I have a small room too. Surround effect is much more accurate, customization is incredible. Room correction is literally on a different level.
@@Fluterra Yes but what is reference level for surrounds exactly ? how will you know without a pattern that the sound is closer to the one created in the studio ? i agree about speakers mapping ! this might be great possibility when in small room like mine , some of speakers are mounted in wrong place due lack of space ! Hard to imagine that sound might so much better due only processor itself IMO 😉 new better speakers , that i understand.
@ My room is 13’x14’. I have a 4.1.2 system. How will you know the sound is closer to the studio? The studio layout is known. Trinnov is remapping and adjusting phase, EQ, timing, to get it to the target.
Me: Hunn I just saw this cool processor for our home theater... Wife: I want a divorce.
Living on the edge!!
Ultra expensive luxury processors!
Trinnov Altitude 16 $19,500!
Trinnov Altitude 32 $42,000!
Of course they will send an engineer because it cost them half the price!
The funny part is Trinnov used to be in the cheaper Sherwood AVR
That 32 is a true beast!
Jiles: How do you think a Trinnov compares to Theory Audio Design?
For amplification?
@@JilesMcCoy No I meant how incredible the speakers and incredible amplifier is that drives these incredible speakers, but you need to have a processor to hook up your devices to and then out to the tiny amplifier and then out to the speakers.
@@richardzagozeski892 I don’t think they have anything like the Trinnov processor. But great speakers!
It's upgradable because it's essentially a $700 i7 X86 computer 🤔
The HDMI board is a big item for upgrades. That piece is independent of the compute architecture.
@@JilesMcCoy People like to feel they have some tangible value in a product, paying the lions share for proprietary software, R&D and licensing fees scares me a bit. 😬💵💸💸💸
95% of the differentiator for this kind of gear is in the software. Thats where the value comes from. Anyone can put together a box with a HDMI switcher... but the software is where the magic lives.@@Echo-jg8is
It's the software that is expensive, not the actual unit. Similar software is available, but it is much more expensive that the Trinnov unit combined.
@@thomascochran3641 REW is free and does loads.
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It costs $17k. Thanks. I'm good.
Don’t forget the amp cost too.
12000.00 when i hit the lotto
Us all!
the only people who has one of these are you youtubers
UA-camrs don't really have these either.
who can afford one of these
Enthusiasts. Same folks that have Raptors, boats, etc.
Ya I can't belive how anyone in this day and age can afford a $18000 box. Only the rich could afford this. Or a very foolish person with the way the whole economy is inflating.
It’s like someone buying a F150. You don’t need it, but it’s your hobby.