If you destroyed imperm before it resolved, it's column effect wouldn't activate because it says "if this card was Set before activation and is on the field at resolution". The reason why it was able to negate the effect of parallel twister is because it says "all other Spell/Trap EFFECTS in this column are negated" So while the card can go to the graveyard it's effect technically still activates in a column. If it said cards in the column were negated then you could dodge it by sending it to the graveyard.
Only if imperm is set not used from hand. he set it before completely negating the column when flipped. If you twistered before his flip the imperm. It would have worked.
@@johnlewandoski1645 You can't twister can only target face-up cards. Targeting imperm would have negated it because it would be on the field at resolution.
1:16:18 Small note, that Honest effect works if ANY Link monster battles... so, like, if you attack into a Link monster (Like the Borrel Dragon you had problems outing earlier in the video), that is a Link monster battling. You can discard the Lance to reduce its ATK by 3000. It's situational, but it IS an out to high ATK Link monsters.
You can right click the mouse to say no you dont want to activate something. And you can double click a card to select it insteae of selecting and hitting the accept button just a few shortcuts
57:15 in this case you should target the infinite impermanence because it checks in which column the impermanence was in and not in which it was activated.
Take a look at the weather cards, they actually have generic effects as continuous spells. One can half a monster’s atk, the other bounces a spell/trap
@@superriso08 I'm not sure, just if he doesn't have any of them they all become useless, plus I don't think he's gonna run 1 random monster for a spell bounce or ATK halve (Snowy canvas is unusable without other weather cards)
Masochist reminds me of duel generation especially if you aren't going to spend money on a digital card game It is practically the original masochist challenge It starts you with 45 kind of playable cards mostly normal monters and 4 iconic extra deck monsters number 44, scarred warrior, forgot the other two even though i was playing it this morning
I was the rescue ace guy. I did brick horrendously, I thought I was gonna lose when I saw your twister activate but then I saw you target your own card and I was like “HUH?!”. Too close for comfort lol good luck with the challenge 👍
Damage Step!?! World Legacy Lance will also work when you battle an opponent's Link Monster. Huge battle phase hand trap! You get into a lot of battles with link monsters. Use it! Keep it up, Chief!
Konami's atrocious rulings rear their ugly head again. It's one of those resolutions that make no sense no matter how it is rationalized, and al you can do is accept it because Konami says so. Way too many cases of that in this game.
As others have said, you needed to destroy the Imperm not your spell card. Additionally, the reason TTT got set was because you controlled no monsters.
59:14 sooo it depends on where the effect activates and if the card needs to be on field for it to resolve if it activates on field even if that card leaves the field the effect will still be activated(assuming it doesnt need to be there at resolution) in the place where it was played before going to the grave which makes that imperm negating the colum where it was on activation still negate the effect despite the card not being there poping imperm right there wouldve stopped the colum negate bc it says if its still there on resolution negate the colum if its not there that effect just isnt applied bc the condition for that wasnt met if that makes sense? tl;dr pop impert to stop the colum spell/trap negate (monster negate still goes through tho)
I just have to say it, Cimo did NOT invent the challenge, there were videos from other Yugitubers that were over 9 months old when Cimo uploaded his first episode. He definitely made the challenge more popular, but he didn't invent it. Otherwise, I really like your videos, good format, which drew my attention to this channel and I enjoy playing it myself, hope we meet in ranked! To be clear: I have no problem with Cimo. I just find it too striking that a lot of people think he invented it, and I'm not entirely sure about that. As far as I know, he never said that he did and perhaps he has changed enough to call it his own, I don't know.
I deleted my first comment on this. I can't find the original source and don't want to say anything I can't prove, but I'm pretty sure about what I saw.@@LordTrent. One thing I can say with certainty is UA-cam's history feature sucks.
Ha, got it! Here is one video I found that's way older than Cimos first video, its not called Masochist, but if you watch the first minute you see its the same idea but altered (You can definitely see differences in the rules, but they also change throughout the episodes): ua-cam.com/video/8S5ljJcJcFk/v-deo.html There was other stuff too, its just the first I found.@@LordTrent.
What if you open the free packs but you're only allowed to use the cards you get on the left side of the pack? This way you won't get any secret pack cards, its basically half a master pack
Congrats on your first royal rare. I just started my own masochist journey today and already pulled my first royal from the assault mode pack. I was hoping for a Stardust Dragon from the secret pack but didn't get it. But almost immediately after I pulled my very first UR on the account and it was Accesscode Talker, lol. Not as good as Stardust in these kind of challenges but still quite powerful if I manage to stick 4 monsters.
Personally i think you should be allowed to open the free limited time secret packs, as you mentioned they're temporary so i think it's fair to have a chance to get them while you can
One thing I’ll note with the imperm play, you had a virtual win on board. You knew what the middle backrow was. Using Twister on the HQ would have given you a clean shot at using Parallel Twister to open the path. It’s just something where you can use an extra card to play things safe and avoid the risk of Imperm all together.
I have a cool idea man.. might be reasonable for the challenge actually. When you gain enough dust from duels, you can use that dust to duplicate a card that you already own. Might help with some consistency, and still forces you to earn and use the resource wisely.
I say you should open the Ra packs, and keep the cards. Since at the end of the day, they are free packs that everyone is allowed to open. But only after you've won a game. Same thing with other singular free Secret Packs.
You should implement the rule that if you reach Plat 5(because it is a different ball game at that point), you're allowed to open free packs. But only in platinum. Also the Duelist Cup legacy packs should be allowed, because you technically earned them last season. Duelist Cup should also fall under the same rules, just because ladder can be so annoying so you might take your shot there. Saw some masochist duelist in there. Apparently you can't check decks in that mode though, sadly.
new rule: you can open the RA packs, but if you pull the god, you must play it on your deck forever. as for the other packs, is just a couple of free packs per seasons, it's fine to open them, maybe put some punishment as well. as a trade-off. opening packs is the best part of the series, i understand the hardcore part of it, but also it gets stale if there is not a good influx of new cards
Ancient Forest seems... okish? Destroying Monsters after they attack could potentially help you come back from seemingly unwinnable games, or make all these 5-monster hands way less helpless.
I'm not going to pretend I knew that Imperm worked that way, but I probably would have destroyed the imperm instead of my own card anyways. At least we have a nice pay off to your intro of avoiding misplays, really clever foreshadowing by the writers.
Thanks for the video. You inspired me to making a new account and do the challenge. So far I have played two duels. The first duel was against exosister. Not sure why exosister was played at the lowest rank. My first win was against the starter blue eyes deck. The monster that brought me victory was Worm Warlord. A good level 6 monster
For the Ra tickets(and free packs), I think its fine to open them if you disenchant the 4 pack cards you get from each one. Just to prevent a bunch of free synergy. Gotta keep suffering after all.
My theory is that the imperm negates the twister because the effect was resolving in the same column as the imperm, not because the card itself existed in that column.
Regarding the free single pulls of the Secret Packs (and the Ra pack tickets) Personally I say use them. I'm doing a semi masochist run alongside a friend of mine, however ours is a little more casual. But we've opened all those free packs and honestly they have't really affected the decks we use. You'd think they might give too many cards with synergies but you only get 4 from the secret pack themselves, the other four cards are master pack cards anyway. You may get a good generic but you're only marginally more likely to get one than a master pack anyways. and oftentimes youll only get one copy which you still need to draw. As you saw with the Weather Painter pack, it gave you a couple interesting cards but nothing that would build a consistent, non masochist deck. Anyway thats just my 2 cents, personally I think it adds a little spice, and makes the challenge a bit more personalised. However if you and the other viewers think it's against the spirit of the challenge then by all means stick to the og ruleset.
Honestly, build a deck that's just checking how many pendulum card/support you have. Drafting generic pendulums is kind of helpful because you get atleast 1 special summon from the extra deck per turn.
So for the record, far as legacy packs go, about 2 or so weeks ago I logged in after a long time, re ranked up real quick, had when I looked, I had 102 legacy packs. I mass opened them all and got I think was 3 might have been 2 URs, so it’s possible but really low odds with only 2 a pack.
Please put madolche nights on the deck, It's kinda a generic monster negate if you don't have creatures in your grave, it only does extra stuff if you control puddingcess, but overall it's good to scare people off when you go first.
Don't make companion apps for this game. Its easy enough to play yugioh now people are just gonna turn on the game and click yes on every pop up not even trying to play or be original
i don't think you should open Konami gifted packs, the whole challenge is based on using the least amount of cards to get to the highest possible tier, though the secret pack rule is a good idea to add some variety and since royal rare is very hard to find then you won't get it often
How about this: any of the free special packs you open you can't use until you hit platinum where the difficulty is likely to ramp up. Speaking of which, we have no idea what rank you're in since you don't show the transitions screens or coin flip.
Some times you missplay because you get into a defeatist mindset and hyper fixate in some detail that didn't come out the way you wanted and it blinds you to the possiblilities. Hope you get over that because i can tell you are smarter than that.
STOP SCOOPING , your in gold these kids prob don’t even know how to play their decks yet .. try to our play them plus it’ll be good content if you beat a Meta deck
i think its kinda weird that people still say stuff like setting before the battle phase is a misplay like nobody is actually playing malevolent catastrophe any more so why would you care, also i think many new players might just come from duel links where there is no main phase 2
@@lucaroth4137he’s talking about the opponent. If you set all of your stuff and then attack, then end of battle phase your opponent activates evenly matched, rip bozo.
If you destroyed imperm before it resolved, it's column effect wouldn't activate because it says "if this card was Set before activation and is on the field at resolution". The reason why it was able to negate the effect of parallel twister is because it says "all other Spell/Trap EFFECTS in this column are negated" So while the card can go to the graveyard it's effect technically still activates in a column. If it said cards in the column were negated then you could dodge it by sending it to the graveyard.
Well it's because imperm says that all effects "activated in the column' are negated
Only if imperm is set not used from hand. he set it before completely negating the column when flipped. If you twistered before his flip the imperm. It would have worked.
@@johnlewandoski1645 You can't twister can only target face-up cards. Targeting imperm would have negated it because it would be on the field at resolution.
1:16:18 Small note, that Honest effect works if ANY Link monster battles... so, like, if you attack into a Link monster (Like the Borrel Dragon you had problems outing earlier in the video), that is a Link monster battling. You can discard the Lance to reduce its ATK by 3000.
It's situational, but it IS an out to high ATK Link monsters.
Absolutely! 100% 3000 ATK reduction! Damage Step?!
Tetherwolf works with any token so it actually combos with fires of doomsday.
Smart
You also have that evil eye card which makes a token
Wtf i never know
You can right click the mouse to say no you dont want to activate something. And you can double click a card to select it insteae of selecting and hitting the accept button just a few shortcuts
57:15 in this case you should target the infinite impermanence because it checks in which column the impermanence was in and not in which it was activated.
I’m so invested in this like im waiting for every episode
Take a look at the weather cards, they actually have generic effects as continuous spells. One can half a monster’s atk, the other bounces a spell/trap
They all require "The Weather" monsters to work. If I remember, he has not pulled any, meaning he can't use the effects of the spells
@@GayMan-m1yi think he has sun, but isn't sun the worst one or something?
@@superriso08 I'm not sure, just if he doesn't have any of them they all become useless, plus I don't think he's gonna run 1 random monster for a spell bounce or ATK halve (Snowy canvas is unusable without other weather cards)
Masochist reminds me of duel generation especially if you aren't going to spend money on a digital card game
It is practically the original masochist challenge
It starts you with 45 kind of playable cards mostly normal monters and 4 iconic extra deck monsters number 44, scarred warrior, forgot the other two even though i was playing it this morning
that thing is still online?, sheesh. never touched it of how crappy it looks like.
Balmung and Blood Mefist
Bro I love this Series
I was the rescue ace guy. I did brick horrendously, I thought I was gonna lose when I saw your twister activate but then I saw you target your own card and I was like “HUH?!”. Too close for comfort lol good luck with the challenge 👍
Damn. What was the opening hand?
Damage Step!?! World Legacy Lance will also work when you battle an opponent's Link Monster. Huge battle phase hand trap! You get into a lot of battles with link monsters. Use it!
Keep it up, Chief!
My man didnt read again, couldve popped imperm to save his effect
Konami's atrocious rulings rear their ugly head again. It's one of those resolutions that make no sense no matter how it is rationalized, and al you can do is accept it because Konami says so. Way too many cases of that in this game.
As others have said, you needed to destroy the Imperm not your spell card. Additionally, the reason TTT got set was because you controlled no monsters.
59:14 sooo it depends on where the effect activates and if the card needs to be on field for it to resolve if it activates on field even if that card leaves the field the effect will still be activated(assuming it doesnt need to be there at resolution) in the place where it was played before going to the grave which makes that imperm negating the colum where it was on activation still negate the effect despite the card not being there
poping imperm right there wouldve stopped the colum negate bc it says if its still there on resolution negate the colum if its not there that effect just isnt applied bc the condition for that wasnt met if that makes sense?
tl;dr pop impert to stop the colum spell/trap negate (monster negate still goes through tho)
Thanks!
I just have to say it, Cimo did NOT invent the challenge, there were videos from other Yugitubers that were over 9 months old when Cimo uploaded his first episode. He definitely made the challenge more popular, but he didn't invent it. Otherwise, I really like your videos, good format, which drew my attention to this channel and I enjoy playing it myself, hope we meet in ranked!
To be clear: I have no problem with Cimo. I just find it too striking that a lot of people think he invented it, and I'm not entirely sure about that. As far as I know, he never said that he did and perhaps he has changed enough to call it his own, I don't know.
Who invented it?
I deleted my first comment on this. I can't find the original source and don't want to say anything I can't prove, but I'm pretty sure about what I saw.@@LordTrent.
One thing I can say with certainty is UA-cam's history feature sucks.
Ha, got it! Here is one video I found that's way older than Cimos first video, its not called Masochist, but if you watch the first minute you see its the same idea but altered (You can definitely see differences in the rules, but they also change throughout the episodes): ua-cam.com/video/8S5ljJcJcFk/v-deo.html There was other stuff too, its just the first I found.@@LordTrent.
So happy when I come home from work and get to see this series progress, got some bud, got a hot pizza, couple beers, I’m ready ! 😎
What if you open the free packs but you're only allowed to use the cards you get on the left side of the pack? This way you won't get any secret pack cards, its basically half a master pack
Congrats on your first royal rare. I just started my own masochist journey today and already pulled my first royal from the assault mode pack. I was hoping for a Stardust Dragon from the secret pack but didn't get it. But almost immediately after I pulled my very first UR on the account and it was Accesscode Talker, lol. Not as good as Stardust in these kind of challenges but still quite powerful if I manage to stick 4 monsters.
I think you should take a look at your pendulums. They can spam the board, which could let you be more aggressive anc they work generically.
Personally i think you should be allowed to open the free limited time secret packs, as you mentioned they're temporary so i think it's fair to have a chance to get them while you can
i agree
Yeah, if it does not cost gems and it is random, its fair game.
One thing I’ll note with the imperm play, you had a virtual win on board. You knew what the middle backrow was. Using Twister on the HQ would have given you a clean shot at using Parallel Twister to open the path. It’s just something where you can use an extra card to play things safe and avoid the risk of Imperm all together.
you should blur the pot of extravagance in the thumbnail to create some intrigue so you can get a higher click through rate
He didn't actually pull extrav tho
I see I think it would still improve click through rate as it would keep people guessing what the blurred card is@@johnnickfanaccount3492
I have a cool idea man.. might be reasonable for the challenge actually.
When you gain enough dust from duels, you can use that dust to duplicate a card that you already own.
Might help with some consistency, and still forces you to earn and use the resource wisely.
I say you should open the Ra packs, and keep the cards. Since at the end of the day, they are free packs that everyone is allowed to open. But only after you've won a game. Same thing with other singular free Secret Packs.
Personally I'm against it, feels wrong
It has to be random packs otherwise what's the point
You should implement the rule that if you reach Plat 5(because it is a different ball game at that point), you're allowed to open free packs. But only in platinum.
Also the Duelist Cup legacy packs should be allowed, because you technically earned them last season.
Duelist Cup should also fall under the same rules, just because ladder can be so annoying so you might take your shot there. Saw some masochist duelist in there. Apparently you can't check decks in that mode though, sadly.
new rule: you can open the RA packs, but if you pull the god, you must play it on your deck forever.
as for the other packs, is just a couple of free packs per seasons, it's fine to open them, maybe put some punishment as well. as a trade-off.
opening packs is the best part of the series, i understand the hardcore part of it, but also it gets stale if there is not a good influx of new cards
Ancient Forest seems... okish? Destroying Monsters after they attack could potentially help you come back from seemingly unwinnable games, or make all these 5-monster hands way less helpless.
I say do Dragon/Warriors, such an iconic theme.
You can use right click to close the menu asking you to activate something, that way you don't need to keep clicking on cancel.
I'm not going to pretend I knew that Imperm worked that way, but I probably would have destroyed the imperm instead of my own card anyways.
At least we have a nice pay off to your intro of avoiding misplays, really clever foreshadowing by the writers.
Thanks for the video. You inspired me to making a new account and do the challenge. So far I have played two duels. The first duel was against exosister. Not sure why exosister was played at the lowest rank. My first win was against the starter blue eyes deck. The monster that brought me victory was Worm Warlord. A good level 6 monster
Krystal avatar has potential
Just open your the ra packs because they suck it won’t really help unless you pull sphere mode lol
I think Tasuke is prounounced like Sasuke from Naruto lol
Unless you call him *Sasookee* too lol
49:08 attack, make the suship in second MPH and then pop the card. Shuship can't?
also, abyss actor Extras is pretty good since you mostly go second, it's a free special summon, which puts your tribute summons on turn 2
For the Ra tickets(and free packs), I think its fine to open them if you disenchant the 4 pack cards you get from each one. Just to prevent a bunch of free synergy. Gotta keep suffering after all.
My theory is that the imperm negates the twister because the effect was resolving in the same column as the imperm, not because the card itself existed in that column.
If you theating roar slash doesn't get to equip a warrior and you could just pop it next turn
If you twistered the imperm and not your own card pretty sure it resolves
Regarding the free single pulls of the Secret Packs (and the Ra pack tickets) Personally I say use them. I'm doing a semi masochist run alongside a friend of mine, however ours is a little more casual. But we've opened all those free packs and honestly they have't really affected the decks we use. You'd think they might give too many cards with synergies but you only get 4 from the secret pack themselves, the other four cards are master pack cards anyway. You may get a good generic but you're only marginally more likely to get one than a master pack anyways. and oftentimes youll only get one copy which you still need to draw. As you saw with the Weather Painter pack, it gave you a couple interesting cards but nothing that would build a consistent, non masochist deck.
Anyway thats just my 2 cents, personally I think it adds a little spice, and makes the challenge a bit more personalised. However if you and the other viewers think it's against the spirit of the challenge then by all means stick to the og ruleset.
Man tetherwolf dr looking like a new acr monster. Evr got that 2500 attack and works with the evil eye and fire of dopmsday tokens
wow that was sad
57:21 if you targeted the impermanence, then your card wouldn't be negated,
Read the impermanece text lololol
He walked out of the McDonald's haha😂
Honestly, build a deck that's just checking how many pendulum card/support you have. Drafting generic pendulums is kind of helpful because you get atleast 1 special summon from the extra deck per turn.
I think you’re getting pretty close to a big dude pendulum deck that just aims to pendulum out big dudes and win from there
So for the record, far as legacy packs go, about 2 or so weeks ago I logged in after a long time, re ranked up real quick, had when I looked, I had 102 legacy packs.
I mass opened them all and got I think was 3 might have been 2 URs, so it’s possible but really low odds with only 2 a pack.
Surrendering gives no experience. If a drawn out duel leads to a down-slope, end the duel on your own terms. Get exp, get legacy packs.
Please put madolche nights on the deck, It's kinda a generic monster negate if you don't have creatures in your grave, it only does extra stuff if you control puddingcess, but overall it's good to scare people off when you go first.
The Ancient Forest field spell card is actually a win condition if ur deck stalls a lot.
Hey will you do the new event and try to get those tickets from it?
Maybe take a look at the Ancient Forset? It destroyes any monster after the battle step so its not bad at removing your opponents stuff
I think it could be a fun idea if you pull a non secret pack royal to use that on the ra free packs or one of the “seasonal” secret packs in the store
As someone who plays cubics I was screaming at that misplay 😂
Which one?
Hyped for next episode wish you would have pulled more weather monsters I love that deck
Don't make companion apps for this game. Its easy enough to play yugioh now people are just gonna turn on the game and click yes on every pop up not even trying to play or be original
You should try working on another deck filled with random pendulum monsters and any spells or traps that's helps with pendulum.
Should've banished the Ghost Belle and swing into it the next turn.
i don't think you should open Konami gifted packs, the whole challenge is based on using the least amount of cards to get to the highest possible tier, though the secret pack rule is a good idea to add some variety and since royal rare is very hard to find then you won't get it often
Tetherwolf Token Control sounds decent
I will do the same, try tl build a couple of decks, i pull some Machine and Beast cards.
1:16:37 The sword is literally larger than whole skyscrapers.
You can use world lance even if you dont have a normal monster but opponent has a link
The world legacy sword card would also work if your attacked by a link monster
Love the royal rare rule
You should have twistered the rescue ace field spell when you had the chance 😢
I say you can open the new pack for the one time pulls :)
you can use the event tickets, they don't give you anything useful anyways.
Ooh i need that dino card
How about this: any of the free special packs you open you can't use until you hit platinum where the difficulty is likely to ramp up. Speaking of which, we have no idea what rank you're in since you don't show the transitions screens or coin flip.
If you twistered the imperm it wouldnt have negated your spell.
You forgot to change your player icon and frame lol
Record by the end of this video: 28-53 (34.57%)
57:25 buy a pack bro. That crap had to be a bug or something. Hilarious and enraging nonetheless
Some times you missplay because you get into a defeatist mindset and hyper fixate in some detail that didn't come out the way you wanted and it blinds you to the possiblilities. Hope you get over that because i can tell you are smarter than that.
you forgot to change your icon btw
tah-skay knight is how you pronounce it btw.
Open the special legacy tickets
I vote you can use the free god card you got
More pls :D
open the free packs before they expire!
Open free pulls woooh
STOP SCOOPING , your in gold these kids prob don’t even know how to play their decks yet .. try to our play them plus it’ll be good content if you beat a Meta deck
Teather wolf is amazing also consider putting at least one high and one low scale to flood field for free wins
Hola Niño
i think its kinda weird that people still say stuff like setting before the battle phase is a misplay like nobody is actually playing malevolent catastrophe any more so why would you care, also i think many new players might just come from duel links where there is no main phase 2
It plays into evenly matched
@@LordTrent. I have never seen anyone main board evenly and set it on turn but I guess you are right
@@lucaroth4137on Master duel they do it all the times. Also traptrix main 3x
@@lucaroth4137he’s talking about the opponent. If you set all of your stuff and then attack, then end of battle phase your opponent activates evenly matched, rip bozo.
i know? i just tried to say i have never seen someone set evenly on turn 1 and than just pass to wait for my battle phase to hit me with it
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Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks for the support