Nvidia Thinks They're "Selling Out" of RTX 4080's?!
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- So Nvidia just had their Earnings call for the latest quarter, and of course, I’m here to cover it, so let's get to it, on your boot sequence.
Alright, the earnings call, how was it? Boring would be the first thing to come to mind, but I sat through it so you didn't have to! So, First, Nvidia touched on the fact that they “Unveiled the GeForce RTX™ 40 Series for laptops, providing the company’s largest-ever generational leap in performance and power efficiency.”...That’s not true.
I mean, maybe it's kind of true when it comes to the RTX 4080 mobile, Jarrod’s tech did an excellent review of it and it turns out that the cost per frame is SLIGHTLY better than a 3080 ti laptop gpu, but I mean the 3080 ti came out over a year ago, and we’re only seeing around 7% better cost per frame.
And when you look at the more affordable models, like the RTX 4070 mobile, Jarrod says that it's a literal joke, and hardwareunboxed literally canceled their coverage about it. It’s basically a 3070 ti. But hey, at least you get fake frames.
Speaking of which, they once again said that DLSS 3 would come to 50 games and apps. I hope for them that that’s true since they dont have the best track record when it comes to honoring those promises.
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#Nvidia #RTX4080 #RTX4000 - Наука та технологія
Nvidia: "What do you mean gamers don't want to pay over priced GPU cards?"
more like Nvidia wants us to think 4080 is selling good.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat it's selling enough, not that many produced vs 4090
no they're just lying to their shareholders to save face
Both of the microcenters near me have 25 or so 4090s in stock.
Thank you for summing it up. Nice and short!🙂
Missed your vids bud. Good to have you back :)
So they lie even more now, not when you are throttling production on purpose Nvidia every one can see you in all ray traced glory!
Haha yeah nah, look on the Australian websites. Even the 4080s that are going for $1,799 (rrp is $2,229 here) aren't selling out 🤣
They said they were selling out quickly, they didnt say when they were.
Could've sold out on launch day and then restocked later and they can still claim that.
Nvidia has sell all 4080 chips they have to AIB, so they don´t have problems. AIB maybe have... :)
Nvidia messed up bad cutting down their cards like they did! Only thing they can do now is launch a 4070 Super with 16GB and 256bit bus for what they're selling Ti for!
The performance speaks for itself. Despite the cut downs the 4070 performs as well as a 3090. Cut downs = cheaper prices.
Good news people, you can finally buy rtx 3080 at msrp, it took over 2 years for that
@@Wobbothe3rd And still where are the budget gpus ? By this logic a 4050 should be with 3060ti performance for less than 350 bucks... right ? Rigĥt ?
@@Wobbothe3rd Cut downs = cheaper prices but with NVidia you only get cut downs
@@ji3200unfortunately not in my country
It's harder to find a 7900 xtx here than 40 series cards
I've just bought a used 3080, works perfectly. No way would I pay 40 series prices
not everyone needs 4080, just drop the resolution to 1080 and you can game for cheap nowadays
my 3080 12 gb is doing 4k 60 fps no troubles so you will have great gaming with yours.
I said that too when I got a used 3080 but it's simply not fast enough in ray tracing games. Without raytracing, sure it works fine. But with RT on it struggles badly. That's why I got a 4080 and it absolutely kills.
@@lonelymtbrider3369 🤔 All with RT on full. Battlefield 5 DLSS Quality 4k maxed 70 fps average . Metro Exodus DLSS Quality 4k maxed 68 fps average. Bright Memory Infinite DLSS Quality 62 average . I could list more but my 3080 12gb handles Ray Tracing in optimized games no problem. With Gsync the rare moments its dips to 55 to 58 fps briefly is not noticeable at all. I have some GPU and system tweaks and when gaming no back round processes running and again 4k raytracing with optimized games is just fine. Rtx 4080 is about $2000 dollars were I live and that's a rip off. Oh I have enough on my credit card to buy a 4080 or even a 4090 but I am not paying that ridiculous price for some thing I don't need. Not paying that crazy price to run games that developers are to lazy to optimize either. 4080 and 4090 are nice but over priced and not needed in most cases.
Lucky you, I wouldn't pay them prices on principle though
Nvidia doesn't really care about the low margin consumer market right now because they need to gear up production of the H100 to take advantage of the AI revolution. Unlike last generation where the 3090 and A100 where on two different lines (Samsung 8+ and TSMC 7 respectively) the 4090 and H100 are using the same TSMC 4+ node and the purpose of the 4090 was to perfect production and increase yields and from here on out will be mainly for chips that can't quite cut it for the H100. an 8 chip H100 board goes for $33,000 - $38,000 while 8 4090s go for $12,800 so if yields are high and they seem to be they aren't going to waste any H100 quality chips on a 4090 and if they do make a 4090 Ti then it's going to have to cost twice as much as a 4090 or they'll be leaving a lot of money on the table ..... And they aren't going to waste production time at TSMC on 4080's unless they can sell them for a high margin because again they would be leaving money on the table compared to using that production time for the H100. That is why Nvidia's stock price has almost doubled since October and AMD only saw a 30% gain (mostly due to their Epyc CPU line also having a higher demand because of AI) and Intel has been flat
There is more to the GPU markets these days than just gaming ... Go read the Nvidia article on Venture Beat to get a clearer understanding of why Nvidia's business is going to be booming this year despite a depressed Consumer PC market
Canada Computers have all models in stock including 4090.... and 4090 loses at least 50% value once 50 series come out... so no thanks
5000 series will not come out before 2024 end so that's minimum 2 years of usage without any value drop
Also there is no guarantee you will either get stock or will be able to afford 5090 when it comes out
Lastly, x090s retain the most value out of any card, so again, no good reason to not get a 4090 if looking for a gpu and can afford it
Imagine when the 4070 comes out. It has less CUDA cores and less VRAM than the 3070 but cost more.
mabye if u start saving from now ,u can buy 5090 at 4k dollar
@@goochipoochie that's some serious cope right there. I'll remind you that RDNA 4 might show up in late 2023 at the earliest.
it will almost lose 50% of its value when the 4090ti comes out too.
when the enterprise line goes up the client/gaming section gets sacrificed, especially lower down the stack. why play by low margin mass consumer rules when you can sell that same silicon allocation to corporate AI build up.
Founders 4080 in the UK has never sold out of stock on Nvidea's own website 😂
I've gone to Intel arc A770 as not paying nvidia/amd scalping prices!
Yeah right…
The UK 4080 FE has been in stock since 13 Dec 2022… and is still in stock now!
They can keep them in the selves they look great.
Sorry I bought one :( rtx 4080
This is my first time buying my own gpu.
You're allowed 1 rookie mistake, 1. 😡
You have my condolences, sorry for the loss.
They should release the current 4080 as the 4070 Super maybe slightly more cut down but clocked faster for 600 USD. The 4080 should be 20% faster than that 4070 and be 800 USD. The 4090 should cost 1299 and the 4090 TI should be 1600 USD.
This would still be quite much, but at least it wouldn't be outlandish. I agree
@@Mom19 The 4080 we got was originally the 4070ti before Nvidia realized they were gonna just absolutely gap what AMD had to offer and mining crash happened causing oversupply of RTX 30 in supply channels
Nvidia will instead launch the 4070 which will only 10% faster than the 3070 but cost 20% more.
@@tringuyen7519 Unfortunately you may be right.
checking the stock online right now makes you go "wait a minuet. Who ARE you?" in your head with stock "Selling out". Even the scalpers are lowering the prices for the 4090
why wud they buy 4070 ti n 4080s when they can get 3080s n 3090s at half the price.
Nvidia days are over. ppl gona buy from used Market
to be fair, most 4070 4080 and 4090 were sold out till this very moment in Germany. sure some retailers have 1, most has 0-1-2
Well I mean, they’re not wrong, they are selling out of their 4080 silicon. It’s just that AIBs bought them, and put them in gpus that aren’t selling. But Nvidia doesn’t care, they sold out of the silicon. They got their bag. They’re not speaking for their “partners”
They're not selling out. That's clear. Selling? Sure. But they're been on shelves available for months.
I miss the powerful bass in your intros.
Why are they lying? "Gamers have enthusiastically" reacted to the launch of the 4000 series? Really?
Nvidia employees are gamers too
I mean, for the 4090, yes, but that's a relatively small percentage of consumers. For the 4080 and 4070 ti? Definitely a NO.
I wouldn't usually like, but you took a hit man, so I even dropped a comment. Stay frosty?
Where da RTX Voice at? 🤣🤣
Even if they were I'm sure it would of been by design...aka only making so many at a time.
I'm sorry did I miss something? When did cost per frame equal performance and efficiency? I have to be missing something right? Lol
it's the newest coping mechanism for paying too much in the first place. "hey, but my cost per frame for 4080 is better than 3080 so it must be a worthwhile buy"
I agree.
Gamers are pretty low on the totem pole when it comes to NVIDIA’S priorities. AI and medical fields will pay thousands for a GPU. Why market to gamers that aren’t even buying GPU’s.
Given the disastrous launch of the 40 series, I’d bet that from 50 series onward, they shift focus to other markets. As transistor counts and performance increase, so will prices.
Yes in over 2 months from now it's likely that Nvidia will release another lacklustre and overpriced GPU that only matches it's release day MSRP in 1 country. Wow i'm looking forward to that... Not !!!
Buy used GPU's if you need an upgrade , don't give your hard earned money to Nvidia or even now to AMD and Intel aren't your friends either.
Ow that cash grab company 😅😅😅
Not interested. The end.
Are they trying to use wordplay to pull a fast one over the investors?
given the dip in the gaming category, it really seems like it.
When company cant produce its product and demand is more.. company says too much sale to make false hype that their product is awesum. But the truth is company unable to produce
@Jesus is Lord more than 70 percent are intrested for meeting daily needs like food,and shelter .. gpu are only for rich people or stupid people who want to think that they are rich but they are not, very soon such people take loan to survive
Ofc they are selling out. They didnt make them too many in the first place.
When You Are DOWNSIZING Expectations ARE LOW , soooo
4080 is a trickery, it's only there to justify the 4090 price.
RTX 4080 needs to be priced at $700. Not more than that but no, Nvidia has something in mind which is, they know that they won't be able to deliver the quantity in demand, hence they already overpriced it knowing that somewhere in the near future when gamers aren't going to find any more RTX 30 GPUs, they have to switch to RTX 40. So, with this strategy, they are going to sell the same number of GPUs with a higher margin.
The used market is been overflowed by RTX3080 right now. The prices stay at about 500$/Fr.
This only works if they delay the 5000 series and AMD sits on their hands and does nothing. Many people with 2000 and 3000 series cards are completely skipping the 4000 series and let's not ignore the state of the global economy. Consumers are being sqeezed from every angle, the first things that are cut from the budget are recreational and entertainment.
They are gonna sell 4060 as $700 as hot cakes!
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4080 selling out of stock 🤣. what universe do they live in? 4080's are DROPPING in price in retail stores every week. yeah, that's how much out of stock they are. maybe the stock of buyers sold out.
What gaming division, NVIDIA abandon the gaming market. The crypto division is doing marvelously in relation to the crypto GPU market. What crypto has moved on from GPUs and is using ASIC now, bummer!. (Application-specific integrated circuit). Crawling back to your old girlfriend after dumping her, and then shaking her down for cash is not a path to success. Shameless.
not crypto, meta and AI and data center stuff is making them money.
The stock is shooting through the roof, while all I hear is you say the cards are too expensive and people are not buying, strange.
I said that Nvidia is doing A ok. Revenue is lower than last year but quarter over quarter they are still growing. Then explicitly mentioned how the gaming division has a drop. Was I not clear enough or did you not watch the video?
@@BootSequence I am not complaining about your content, it's a general observation. Just checked, revenue is basically flat, net income down. On youtube, universally saying GPU price dropping. Ethereum mining went away. There is AI, but why should it get 100 PE? I think this makes no sense.
@@CO8848_2 A.I. trades probably Nvidia maybe has a new customers. Its Software Company, as much as i despite this guy. Jensens statement about this one is absolutly clear and trustworthy. Nvidia is Software company nowadays, some gpu sold out, some not who cares, they can wait and sit in overall profit until their A.I and T-cores are the most popular ,advanced technology out there on public market and some off these are probably far behind the hands of public market. They can do whatever they want to do thus they have absolute technological monopoly in most advanced technologies on this planet, nowadays. Nvidia knows this will not lasts forever, probably pretty short time actualy. So their are milking now, becouse of they know that they can. Some gamers or small content creators tsss, uninteresting custommers .... its about money, power, science and most off all these its about that power.
Nvidia is doing fine! They just have to reduce gaming GPU production and increase production of other products!
@@haukionkannel agree
what pc is in the background?
Its an all amd system with a 3900X and a 6500 XT. Yes, I know... Someone needed the 6800 XT that was in it so they replaced it with a 6500 XT.
@@BootSequence ah how about the case never seen it before
nvidia = bs since 40 series (don't get me started on the 40 series font)
1st?
Funny how stubborn nvidia is with pricing. So now they try a desperate lie that gpus are selling out in hope that it forces dumasses to buy them. In aus the 70&80 rot on shelves. Full stock from launch to now
So Microsoft having a monopoly is bad, but Nvidia abusing their current monopoly it's ok.
Tell me that i am a Nvidia fanboi without saying that i am.
Nvidia doesn't have a monopoly, Microsoft does. Market dominance earned by actually offering a better product at a cheaper price isn't "monopoly"
Tell me you're in a social media echo chamber without telling me.
@@Wobbothe3rd cheaper products, nvidia? Are you ok.
Did you missed your meds today?
Lol. Not worth wasting time with you.
@@Wobbothe3rd Show me the supposed better product at a cheaper price from Nvidia!
You do realize that Nvidia pays for its market dominance, look up the actual history of Cuda. It is nothing more than proprietary open cl that Nvidia paid software developers to prioritize over actual open cl. Open CL is the actual standard agreed to by all hardware and software manufacturers.
Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly in gaming. They sell a console. Playstation has gone as far as purchasing Bungee because they made Xbox exclusive titles (actual anti-competitive behavior). Microsoft has also committed by a contract to support all of Blizzard/Activision multi platform content for all platforms for 10 years including new content based on those properties.
Stop listening to what you want to hear and start reading up on the real information.