I feel like the process being so clear is also mainly because it is aimed at future content creators. I love both myshunosun and Trillyke (enough to the point I actually thought it looked like myshunosun's style and was happy I recognized it). While they are transparent on the process of the creation of the kit, I wish they were more transparent on how they choose the creators & the compensation portion is kind of light. I hope people will think of their creator code to add additional compensation to the creators! Thank you for the video, I hope you'll get better soon! And take all the time you need to rest ☀️
Or why they choose kits to have creators work on. Because I have a sneaking suspicion, sadly, it's not because of the creators. More because of the backlash the kits get. When they are created by a CC creator, people want to support the cc creator and that's how they sell with people that wouldn't normally buy them. Smart, for sure but annoying at the same time.
I agree about that too. That they reached out to the creators instead of people applying is notable. I would guess they look for creators with a certain following, but *maybe they also seek creators who have content that is likely to align with what they want produced Thank you, appreciate it
@openjoistt yeah, all my guys are femboys because of the lack of good options. I don’t mind the stuff we got now. It's just I don't want every sim man to dress the same. Also, I refuse to use cc. I don’t want to have to update those.
Men's fashion is even lacking in the CC world. Senate released a collection with almost nothing in it. We need more good basics fashion for men. No shade to Sentate. Love their content and I hope they make more for men!
I like that the sleepwear kit seems to be adding under eye patches and a nose pore strip for storytelling. I love that cc creators are being recognized in this way
Myshunosun is pretty famous for buid & buy CC. Their CC is very high quality and very well integrated into the game. I don't use CC in my builds (ever since the CC window issues), but I do have 11 of their sets downloaded just to look at them, because they're pretty. Good choice.
For those who like kits I think this is a great idea and keeping them as add ons won't change the look of the game for those who like the Maxis style. Personally, I don't buy kits as there's already more clothing and items in the game than I can ever hope to use. I would however, love a kit that swaps out all of the low poly plated foods for something that looks more appetising, though i guess that would be more of a mod. 😆 And get well soon, Erin, take all the time that you need 🤗
I think this is a great way for console/vanilla players to get "cc" in their games. The 4.99 kit price is also the same if not less than a lot of CC creators' patron charge so it lines up.
100% agree with review. They need to gi. Console players. have more stuff. I wish they let us have all mod, but we know that's never gonna happen. I really would like the gun mod or the knife mod.Captain sauce did it , but he's . on computer I Wish they would fix all the mod so Console players can play with them Please, and thank you.
@@love420smokethe thing about a Patreon tier is they aren’t one and done, they are monthly subscriptions so $1 a month is $12 a year. Now for the frequency some creators put out high quality CC with more items then EA kits, the trade off can be entirely worth it. BUT there are also creators who aren’t producing high quality or good stuff all the time and still get there rate monthly through Patreon for as long as you are subscribed. That’s to say value here is gonna vary by experience with the creator. But with EA its cut and dry, you pay $5, you get your kit. And you get a kit within the game code update world therefore not likely to have to be removed or replaced in the future. I say that as a person with CC pieces from 2018 and modders that have ‘retired’ that still works and therefore I still use (and will continue to use until they become incompatible with the game).
@@TheDawnofVanlife I have over 1k quality maxis match cc items, they were all free. Let's not act like EA gives out quality content please, all they care about is your coin.
@@love420smokeThere’s plenty of stuff in the game that is quality and I happily pay for both the maxis stuff I actually want AND also try to support CC creators as much as I can even if I could get there CC for free. I was just pointing out if you do support anyone at ‘$1 a month’ it isn’t neccessarily cheaper than buying kits. I buy what I actually want from Maxis which is why I don’t own everything they release. And support CC creators and modders who produce the mods I most frequently use and who’s cc compliment my game in ways I care about most consistently. I also don’t by most kits at all cause there’s very few of them that add enough new I care about. There are more couches in game then I will ever use for example, but new play items for children…sold. I have the same standard for CC and mods I add to my game, what does it add that supplements/enhances my game in more than aesthetics. Much like no two modders are the same, maxis quality varies. The execs want $$$$ including any money they get from a ‘colab’ with CC creators. But execs don’t design anything anyway. So what EA execs want in no way factors into the fact that value will vary by person when you are weighing a per month charge for “early access” to creations vs a flat fee ($5 for a kit) for a set amount of items. And if it is perma paywalled, no question you are paying more for the CC.! But if a CC kit has what you want and Maxis doesn’t, the value is in the thing that enhances your personal playtime not cost-per-item anyway. And these new (free?) creator kits are as much about PR as anything. I just hope and expect the colaborators got paid. But if these are gonna be free, where is the benefit to EA/Maxis except reputation cleanup?
Absolutely no insult to the artist they're clearly talented but this doesn't interest me in the slightest I don't think it's adding anything we don't already have in the game currently
that's totally fine! I don't think one has to be interested it at all. While I think it looks nice, I don't personally feel I need to have any of it. I think they need to branch out more espec with bb.
@SimmerErin I actually fully support the idea of content created by the fans but as a console player I would've hoped that the first one of these pack types was truly something that felt more unique. Having said alll that i do hope it does well
I agree. A furniture kit... we already have plenty of that. The paintings look good and I do think we need more. And the sleepwear.. giving us objects with no gameplay is just pointless.. also, what I have seen there is nothing extraordinary. It all feels like what we already have. I expected something more useful. Like activities to do with the sims. Especially for toddlers/kids . Or items to add to the activities we already have.
I love that they’re working together with creators. There’s some CC stuff out there I would actually love to see in the game (I don’t use CC anymore personally, but have done in the past) and I would love it even more if they went one step further and incorporated mods into the actual game (I’m thinking of the TOOL MOD and the Better Build Buy mod, but I’m sure there are many others that would enhance the game)
I like transparency, it's eat to see how behind the scenes processes work. I don't mind this. Though when I think of transparency, I'm more concerned about addressing long-time fan concerns and questions. Like, why did they stop gameplay kits? Why did Stuff Packs disappear for 2 years? Why have occults taken even more of a backseat these last few years? Why keep the shopping cart when pretty much every player hates it? We can guess the reason for all of these. But I'm really interested in them explaining these issues.
I just took a look at the post on EA about 20 minutes ago. I'm excited to know it from 2 of my favorite cc creators. The build buy looks nice. I'm interested in seeing more of the cas, as I'm more interested in cas in general.
This is pretty cool, we need more muted items and more stuff that can be used in different environments. I like both kits, I also play on console so I enjoy getting new content: I’m excited for them to be partnering content creators.
yeah, I agree on the muted tones. I actually like the tones pretty well here even though it's called "bold" as I feel they would suit many builds. I think swatches have mostly improved too
First off, I hope you feel better. Thank you for covering this Sims news. I really hope that EA continues to collaborate with CC creators. Creators know more about what the Sims community wants, creators can make high quality content and I love the fact that the creators get some compensation for their hard work.
I like mid-century modern styles. However, I'm worried about the colors they'll have. I never use orange or yellow, and rarely red or green. And if I use green, I don't want "avocado." I'd most likely want to see "eggplant" colored, black, grey and want. (At least the CAS look like they'll have purple and lavender, and more sleepwear is a good thing. Even CC is lacking in the types of sleepwear we see in the pictures. But I do hope they'll have more than just girls-wear!) I hope that whatever is making you feel ill goes away quickly and that you get your grading done quickly and easily!
I play mostly teen sims. The sleepover kit really interests me because it’s themed on teen sleepovers rather than the more adult stuff in simtimates. I will probably buy both to support it, I think it’s a good option to have.
Eh, I don't think this is what Sims should be about. Some players seem to want to enter the game and be guided towards story experiences and doing stuff in a way or another. I play RPGs for that and play Sims for something else; what I actually think Sims is missing is tools to make my own story. The worlds are predefined and are all modern more or less and this limits me very much in telling what I want. Create a world (which we've had in older games) is a minimum this game needs to have. And options to configure sim behavior in every world (whether or not to cross over from other worlds, whether or not to use cell phones etc).
@@Crisalpha What I would love is 'emergent scenarios', like if you move a family with Teen kids to a different world, maybe there is a chance of the sim getting homesick so you have to resolve certain actions like them making a friend in the new world etc. The scenarios feel like the best narrative delivery in the Sims, but it;'s really on there at the start of a save file. It would be a way for them to let players go through the steps for the Reaper Rewards scenario later on too if they introduce it as a scenario
@@Crisalphasooooo agree. I have enough things to dress up my sim in and upgrading beds has lost all meaning. Like it use to be a game mechanic…better beds = better sleep. Make more money, upgrade objects that make Sims life better. Now they game is so OP its full of high comfort objects there’s very little challenge in finding money to buy. I think both the creators they picked are brilliant, there items are quality, but they don’t enhance the actual simulation in any way.
Its almost like theyre using the cc creators as contract workers You get some money but job security is non existent and they dont have to pay as much as official employees, no benefits etc but if pre established cc creatora probably have other ways to support themselves and wont be worse off obviously but its interesting to think about on eas side as a business model why they may do what they do
I hope you feel better soon, Erin. Look forward to seeing your reaction to the live. These kits are cool. I'm curious to see them. I really like this direction that the Sims Team is going in. It's a breath of fresh air.
Sorry to hear you’re not feeling well; I hope you get it figured out and feel better soon! As for the kits, neither is particularly appealing to me, but they do look well made. As long as the creators are truly being compensated fairly for their work, then I think it’s a great idea ti start involving them in kit creation.
There seems to be a change I don't think hasn't been covered which is how the death and game over works with the new update/Life and Death. Prior to Life and Death, Sims who died or are removed by the Social Worker would be gone for good while having the last Sim die or losing all adults (Teen, Young Adult, Adult, and Elder) if you have a baby, infant, toddler, or child in the household would trigger a game over message. The update changes it where Sim who dies can either be made a playable ghost similar to Sims dying in The Sims 2 Console and The Sims 3 PS3/Xbox 360 or become non-playable similar to previous PC/Mac games, and Sims removed by the Social Worker are no longer deleted. You can still get the game over you choose to make the last Sim (or maybe adult if the household has children or pets) unplayable. It's unknown if playable ghosts can be resurrected like in The Sims 3.
idk why anyone would think cc creators arent being compensated fairly. they made all the assets on their own. if it wasnt worth it theyd just put it on their patreon as they would normally.
The fact that they don't give any details on the compensation plan (one-time fee vs. royalties) is highly suspicious, and I wouldn't put it past EA to be cheapskates with creators, as they are with everything.
From the Sims 4 official site: “Throughout this process, all creators have been fairly financially compensated according to competitive market standards at every stage for their time, input, and expertise.” What this means 🤷🏽♀️
@@oceanegougeon3025 right but im saying they make money from their patrons so if it wasnt worth the money to make a pack with ea idk why they wouldnt just do it on patreon like they normally would
@@caitlynl7213 one can think it worth it because it seems like a huge lump sum, without realising that the big corporation will be able to make much much more using our work indefinitely. I'm talking ethics, not pure underpaid exploitation.
I like the idea of having CC creators make the official content for the Sims game. I'm not saying the Gurus don't have a clue how to make good content, but content creators don't have to feel the same level of time crunch that gurus do in getting content out on a deadline.
As a consumer's pov, I see it being the same whether it is ea collaboration or this creator's kit. It's a matter of participation level. I do hope that the cc creators are well compensated. As for these kits, I don't know if it gives mid century vibes, but it's giving the apartment from Friends tv series. Maybe it's just me.
I dont buy kits either, but if they're going to exist, this makes sense as a way to do them. We do actually need more sleepwear in th game as well, in my opinion.
@@SimmerErin We can't always say. If it is something like chronic allergies or whatever it could take awhile to figure out what pollens etc are the causes and get the right meds etc and that can take an eternity. I hope it is something easy to kick, but if not, I hope everything goes well.
As a console player this is exciting would have rather had hairs or something a little more useful then more sleep wear but my concern is that cc creators are getting a fair pay from their work. Also I don’t understand why EA can’t just support adding mods and cc available in a gallery for all players to download. There are a few games lately that are doing crossover mods being available in game for both PC and console players. It’s typical EA tho figuring a way they can monetise it for console players rather then allowing it to be free downloads. My theory is they know consoles will pay as they don’t have any other option for content in the game and they want to take advantage of that rather then adding a way that all players can fairly access the same content.
I play on console so I like kits (a little). The pajama one looks nice and I feel like I constantly wear the same 3 things for pajamas so would be nice to get something new
My only wish would have been if they just polished up CC and added it to the game for free like Farming Simulator does. You can play on console and get mods/CC that the devs just add to the game. I also get wanting to monetize but a few of the "packs" could have been freely added.
I don’t have any kits in my game, im just worried that with more build items with these kits builders will start to use them a lot in their builds and when i get a build from the gallery i will miss a lot of items 😢
I was excited to see two creators I really like...then less excited to see kinda boring themes! We had sleepwear as a new kit...not that long ago? Wasn't the lingerie/pajama stuff this year? Seems weird to do that theme again so soon. Sleepwear is something you only see for a little while, anyways. More interesting formal wear, or something instead. That said, I hope you feel better! I'm having a sincerely difficult time with allergies making me feel sick, but lots of pills going in each morning helps...sudafed is my hero with all this sinus goop, ugh! Feel well soon. Get rest. Drink water!
How would you feel about kits that were product placement, but were free? I wonder if part of the reason that the Sims team reach out is that it gives them a chance to quietly vet that the creator doesn't have CC that is ripped off from trademarked or copyright designs (a potential legal issue), but on thinking that, it reminded me of the Sims 2 packs about H&M and IKEA. In the Sims 2, you bought product placement! I'd be interested if fashion companies and maybe other companies like electronics companies would pay for the Sims 4 team to create free kits, for the people who didn't mind brands showing up in game, but I may be in a minority in that. I actually find the selection in CAS and BB a bit overwhelming so I don't see myself using kits. For the people who want the extra stuff, this does feel like a decent way to do it
hmm,.. so what kind of product placement - oh you mean brands. I'm not sure if they'd do that for a kit or not cause there are the licensing costs too. I am not against brands... more very much it depends., I liked how sims 2 did it
@@SimmerErin I didn't think they were bad packs in Sims 2, it just galls me paying for a company to advertise to me! I love the idea of a Sony pack where we could get a PS5, an Alpha camera, a Vaio laptop (if they still do that subbrand), maybe a few 'simified' posters for their movies and bands, maybe a few bits of CAS items like band t-shirts and hoodies, but it would still bug me that I'm buying an advert...
I love trillyke's stuff, I got a bunch of it in my mods folder rn 😅 I don't think I've seen myshunosun's stuff before, I'll have to look into it!! Good for both of them, they deserve the recognition ☺️
Get better soon. Cover what you can. I like the fact creators are being asked. The kits look cute. Although until I can start playing regularly I won’t be getting anything new.
They should totally make these stuff packs rather than kits. I feel by just using their name as a stuff pack (ie. Moschino) so instead of just slumber kit call it the Myshunosun Stuff Pack
Oof I get that, I am on the other end of college work but I know it is tricky. I hope you feel better soon. Normally when I am feeling unwell I like to drink chamomile tea with honey, I don’t know if that helps to much though it tastes good.
I'm not a fan of kits but it could be the start of something good, material created by people who really love Sims and understand the fans, but I'm not naive this doesn't mean all our dreams will come true, but something is something.
I'd say definitely not. I doubt they get amywhere close to what the in-house creators get and they wouldn't get anything from sales. It's not how companies work.
@@christabelle__ The OP wasn't saying they wouldn't get paid, or they were working for free. They were asking if it was a percentage of the sales, as opposed to a flat fee or some other method.
@@Elwaves2925 I feel like the better model would be the way royalties work for authors - there is an advance, but they only get a percentage of sales once a certain number of books have been sold (effectively once the company has recouped the advance from the sales). it gives them a nice lump sum up front, and then hopefully the residuals will continue to drip on in later months
Hm, I would bet they have been compensated as a one-time thing and had to give away their rights regarding their creations. So, very small cost for EA, who will be able to cash out multiple times on this thanks to all the sales. A royalties system, like a percentage on the sales on top of the initial compensation, would be way more ethical, but I'm guessing this isn't the route they're going with, knowing EA. And before anyone comes at me with "employees don't get to keep their owner rights on their creations either": Indeed, but they have the advantage of being employees. There, EA is just using cheap labour, this is their new idea to cut even more costs while digging deeper into the unethical business practices.
Boring? Not at all! This sounds cool! Of course, I don't totally understand what these "creator kits" actually are. Is it some kind of advanced form of fanmade, custom content? Anyway, I hope you feel better, Simmer Erin.
I would love a kit dedicated to affordable decorative items .... more paintings to adorn my walls with a higher environment rating and that are available in many palettes and to allow us to choose our frame from a multiple choice in colours and styles from the ornate to the simple...I'd like more cultural paintings and more wall items, such as African Masks, Aztec, Canadian Soapstone carvings, Mythological Aspects, Egyptian Artifacts that can also be free standing items like they have in Jungle Adventure but different and that we can place in our homes.. Humans have created such beautiful works, intricate and simplistic in detail...It would also be nice to have our Sims create clay/marble statue in a least three different size...What do you think about something like that. Also once upon a time we were able to put in our Sims files different pictures that we could ask our Sims to paint...can we still do that?
Oh Erin I do worry about you! Really I do. I know you've been fragile of late and perhaps it's time for a break. Why not take a sabbatical and write another book? The World needs another Erin book and you need a rest. Please take of yourself.
I’m excited for these particular kits cuz finally we are getting in game cc and it’s also good for the cc creators… who doesn’t want their own creations in the game officially and get paid for it! That’s great!! I will always say kits are worth the 5$ a lot of the items are better than what we get in other packs. Just saying lol
Love the concept of collaborating with content creators but these specific two themes do absolutely nothing for me.. another sleepwear kit and more mid century modern stuff.. no added value to the game :/
The sleepwear looks like something for toddlers, not a fan, all that is missing is a diaper under there and there you go. How about some more adult stuff? (EDIT: I don't mean actual toddlers, just exaggerating a big, but it doesn't look very adult to me, but maybe there's more in the pack that fits that category. :P )
@@SimmerErin Could just be a geography thing I imagine, never in my life seen anyone wear things like that here in Sweden as an adult. I definitely meant no offense as for the quality of the items, so don't mistake my criticism for meaning bad work, anyone :)
Sorry to hear you're feeling rough, it's not exactly the best timing for you either but it never is. More kits? Yawn. Creators should definitely be compensated and compensated well, although I bet it's not much. They are effectively working for EA at that point, doing the same job the in-house creators would be doing. Anything less would be theft.
@@SimmerErin Yeah, I suspect a flat rate too. The only way we'll find out how much is if one of them reveals it but that might require their relationship with EA to go sour first.
Good thing these are official content and not monetized mods...which aren't allowed legally! It's also a GREAT thing that the community has practically been frothing to see EA worth directly with modders and use their work. Look on any video showing off any TS4 mod, and people will be like "I don't see why EA won't just work with modders and pay them for their work"...then they do, and you're mad that small time creators who outshine EA themselves are getting paid...and we benefit? What a wildly cruel and illogical stance to have. I mean, how is this different from them selling the OTHER sleepwear kit? The only difference is that a smaller creator gets some money, this time, but we all still get professional quality work that comes from real people in tune with real trends, instead of old people stuck in a cubicle.
@@christabelle__ I agree with what you said except with "old people stuck in a cubicle". Why would you make such an assumption. People are different and have different visions and want different things. There's crapton of CC out there that I find absolutely ugly that other people love and would never use, the only thing is that you have many many options of CC and pick what you like. So it's bound you're gonna like something but you're defo not gonna like and vibe with ALL CC. Also, may I remind you we live in a lot of different countries. For example the horrible pants that show ankles for men are considered trendy in Korea and other countries but they're considered outdated and ugly and unkempt in my country. Trends are not universal and are volatile and it's a mistake to try to keep up, that's why EA fails in the first place (unlike CC creators, it takes EA months to push something out and it will be the same for CC creators working through EA).
@@christabelle__ I’m not quite sure which part of my comment warranted a response, but thank you for your opinion. Be that as it may, I still don’t feel the need to share my thoughts on the matter. Have a wonderful day! 😊
@@SimmerErin Absolutely! Modders do a wonderful job and deserve (voluntary) compensation. What I mean by commercializing mods, is the process of turning it into a business transaction. I’m opposed to AAA gaming publishers poaching mod creators to turn a profit, all under the guise of supporting them. In the end, it will be EA that profits the most from this. I believe, modding should remain free from corporate influence. It has always been a non-capitalistic way to share creations between players. Turning it into a business, naturally leads to unhealthy competition and cookie-cutter content. Of course, I may well be wrong. The prospect of getting compensated for a mod, might even animate more people to create them. Which, ultimately, is a good thing for the players and mod creators alike. As long as mods aren’t needed to make the game fun in the first place. Arguably, what EA does with Creator Kits, is not monetizing mods per se. Still, they approached modders, for the sole purpose of using their creative talents. It goes without saying, that the product (custom content) is what EA is after, not the person who creates it. They don’t have to employ them or pay benefits. Which makes it much more profitable for EA. I’d rather see EA provide a mod manager, which would allow console users to download mods - free of charge. As a multi-billion dollar company, EA should be able to compensate mod creators who contribute their work. Simply because mods increase the game’s appeal. It would encourage more people to play it. Furthermore, a free mod manager would show appreciation for their dedicated fans. Brand loyalty is worth more than a quick profit. To be honest, I can’t rightly say, where this will lead and whether it will have a positive impact on gaming as a whole. I reserve my right to remain sceptical. Now look at that. I shared my thoughts after all. Thanks for bearing with me. 🤓 A wonderful day to all of you! 😊
Kinda glad we don't have 'dog prison' in the game...ugh. Nothing more cruel than taking an animal - even a human - and putting it in a little box. It's cruel. Don't get dogs if you're gonna treat them more cruel than a zoo treats THEIR animals, damn. Animals need to move around, fuilly stretch out, run, play...people who don't have a home suited to that don't need pets.
Sorry to hear you're not feeling well Erin. I hope you feel better soon 🫶😊
💕 thank you
I feel like the process being so clear is also mainly because it is aimed at future content creators.
I love both myshunosun and Trillyke (enough to the point I actually thought it looked like myshunosun's style and was happy I recognized it).
While they are transparent on the process of the creation of the kit, I wish they were more transparent on how they choose the creators & the compensation portion is kind of light. I hope people will think of their creator code to add additional compensation to the creators!
Thank you for the video, I hope you'll get better soon! And take all the time you need to rest ☀️
Or why they choose kits to have creators work on. Because I have a sneaking suspicion, sadly, it's not because of the creators. More because of the backlash the kits get. When they are created by a CC creator, people want to support the cc creator and that's how they sell with people that wouldn't normally buy them. Smart, for sure but annoying at the same time.
I agree about that too. That they reached out to the creators instead of people applying is notable. I would guess they look for creators with a certain following, but *maybe they also seek creators who have content that is likely to align with what they want produced
Thank you, appreciate it
Can we get a simmer to make a men's clothes kit. I'm talking straight masculine men's clothes and hair.
we could always use more clothes for guys
@openjoistt yeah, all my guys are femboys because of the lack of good options. I don’t mind the stuff we got now. It's just I don't want every sim man to dress the same.
Also, I refuse to use cc. I don’t want to have to update those.
You would think it would be easier if they just took inspiration from a random men's clothing catalog, but apparently not.
@hope-cat4894 Yeah, that would be excellent.
Men's fashion is even lacking in the CC world. Senate released a collection with almost nothing in it. We need more good basics fashion for men. No shade to Sentate. Love their content and I hope they make more for men!
As a console player, I'm actually so excited to have some more cute cas/build items😭💖
any styles of cas or bb you'd like to see in the future?
I like that the sleepwear kit seems to be adding under eye patches and a nose pore strip for storytelling. I love that cc creators are being recognized in this way
yeah, I think they could have easily just stuck to clothing so those are nice touches
Myshunosun is pretty famous for buid & buy CC. Their CC is very high quality and very well integrated into the game. I don't use CC in my builds (ever since the CC window issues), but I do have 11 of their sets downloaded just to look at them, because they're pretty. Good choice.
glad you're happy with the choice! I am not familiar with their work but I can tell from the quality here that they are talented
For those who like kits I think this is a great idea and keeping them as add ons won't change the look of the game for those who like the Maxis style. Personally, I don't buy kits as there's already more clothing and items in the game than I can ever hope to use. I would however, love a kit that swaps out all of the low poly plated foods for something that looks more appetising, though i guess that would be more of a mod. 😆 And get well soon, Erin, take all the time that you need 🤗
I think this is a great way for console/vanilla players to get "cc" in their games. The 4.99 kit price is also the same if not less than a lot of CC creators' patron charge so it lines up.
Most creators have free cc, you dont actually have to be subscribed to get it, and the lowest tier if you want to pay, is a dollar.
100% agree with review. They need to gi. Console players. have more stuff. I wish they let us have all mod, but we know that's never gonna happen. I really would like the gun mod or the knife mod.Captain sauce did it , but he's . on computer I Wish they would fix all the mod so Console players can play with them Please, and thank you.
@@love420smokethe thing about a Patreon tier is they aren’t one and done, they are monthly subscriptions so $1 a month is $12 a year. Now for the frequency some creators put out high quality CC with more items then EA kits, the trade off can be entirely worth it. BUT there are also creators who aren’t producing high quality or good stuff all the time and still get there rate monthly through Patreon for as long as you are subscribed. That’s to say value here is gonna vary by experience with the creator.
But with EA its cut and dry, you pay $5, you get your kit. And you get a kit within the game code update world therefore not likely to have to be removed or replaced in the future. I say that as a person with CC pieces from 2018 and modders that have ‘retired’ that still works and therefore I still use (and will continue to use until they become incompatible with the game).
@@TheDawnofVanlife I have over 1k quality maxis match cc items, they were all free. Let's not act like EA gives out quality content please, all they care about is your coin.
@@love420smokeThere’s plenty of stuff in the game that is quality and I happily pay for both the maxis stuff I actually want AND also try to support CC creators as much as I can even if I could get there CC for free.
I was just pointing out if you do support anyone at ‘$1 a month’ it isn’t neccessarily cheaper than buying kits. I buy what I actually want from Maxis which is why I don’t own everything they release. And support CC creators and modders who produce the mods I most frequently use and who’s cc compliment my game in ways I care about most consistently. I also don’t by most kits at all cause there’s very few of them that add enough new I care about. There are more couches in game then I will ever use for example, but new play items for children…sold. I have the same standard for CC and mods I add to my game, what does it add that supplements/enhances my game in more than aesthetics.
Much like no two modders are the same, maxis quality varies. The execs want $$$$ including any money they get from a ‘colab’ with CC creators. But execs don’t design anything anyway. So what EA execs want in no way factors into the fact that value will vary by person when you are weighing a per month charge for “early access” to creations vs a flat fee ($5 for a kit) for a set amount of items. And if it is perma paywalled, no question you are paying more for the CC.! But if a CC kit has what you want and Maxis doesn’t, the value is in the thing that enhances your personal playtime not cost-per-item anyway.
And these new (free?) creator kits are as much about PR as anything. I just hope and expect the colaborators got paid. But if these are gonna be free, where is the benefit to EA/Maxis except reputation cleanup?
Absolutely no insult to the artist they're clearly talented but this doesn't interest me in the slightest
I don't think it's adding anything we don't already have in the game currently
that's totally fine! I don't think one has to be interested it at all. While I think it looks nice, I don't personally feel I need to have any of it. I think they need to branch out more espec with bb.
@SimmerErin I actually fully support the idea of content created by the fans but as a console player I would've hoped that the first one of these pack types was truly something that felt more unique. Having said alll that i do hope it does well
It would be so cool if it did come with some gameplay, that is cute stayovers for several age groups (not just adults)
I agree. A furniture kit... we already have plenty of that. The paintings look good and I do think we need more. And the sleepwear.. giving us objects with no gameplay is just pointless.. also, what I have seen there is nothing extraordinary. It all feels like what we already have. I expected something more useful. Like activities to do with the sims. Especially for toddlers/kids . Or items to add to the activities we already have.
I love that they’re working together with creators. There’s some CC stuff out there I would actually love to see in the game (I don’t use CC anymore personally, but have done in the past) and I would love it even more if they went one step further and incorporated mods into the actual game (I’m thinking of the TOOL MOD and the Better Build Buy mod, but I’m sure there are many others that would enhance the game)
I like transparency, it's eat to see how behind the scenes processes work. I don't mind this. Though when I think of transparency, I'm more concerned about addressing long-time fan concerns and questions. Like, why did they stop gameplay kits? Why did Stuff Packs disappear for 2 years? Why have occults taken even more of a backseat these last few years? Why keep the shopping cart when pretty much every player hates it?
We can guess the reason for all of these. But I'm really interested in them explaining these issues.
that's fair. I too would like some of those q's answered
I'm sorry that you're not feeling well. I hope it's nothing serious and that you get well soon. Take care of yourself!
thanks! still trying to figure It out,
I just took a look at the post on EA about 20 minutes ago. I'm excited to know it from 2 of my favorite cc creators. The build buy looks nice. I'm interested in seeing more of the cas, as I'm more interested in cas in general.
This is pretty cool, we need more muted items and more stuff that can be used in different environments. I like both kits, I also play on console so I enjoy getting new content: I’m excited for them to be partnering content creators.
yeah, I agree on the muted tones. I actually like the tones pretty well here even though it's called "bold" as I feel they would suit many builds. I think swatches have mostly improved too
First off, I hope you feel better. Thank you for covering this Sims news. I really hope that EA continues to collaborate with CC creators. Creators know more about what the Sims community wants, creators can make high quality content and I love the fact that the creators get some compensation for their hard work.
yeah, another plus I maybe more people will be made aware of their work and platform too.
and thank you
I like mid-century modern styles. However, I'm worried about the colors they'll have. I never use orange or yellow, and rarely red or green. And if I use green, I don't want "avocado." I'd most likely want to see "eggplant" colored, black, grey and want. (At least the CAS look like they'll have purple and lavender, and more sleepwear is a good thing. Even CC is lacking in the types of sleepwear we see in the pictures. But I do hope they'll have more than just girls-wear!)
I hope that whatever is making you feel ill goes away quickly and that you get your grading done quickly and easily!
I play mostly teen sims. The sleepover kit really interests me because it’s themed on teen sleepovers rather than the more adult stuff in simtimates. I will probably buy both to support it, I think it’s a good option to have.
I can picture it being part of a sale bundle with the High School expansion pack and Parenthood stuff pack, too.
yeah it would be good for that
I know some said we just got sleepwear but I do see this as fairly different
I feel like what's missing in the Sims 4 overall is the simulation. It's a total CAS and builder game. Q_Q
I think the new pack is promising and there have been some definite improvements; but I agree that. sims 4 has often felt aesthetic heavy
Eh, I don't think this is what Sims should be about. Some players seem to want to enter the game and be guided towards story experiences and doing stuff in a way or another. I play RPGs for that and play Sims for something else; what I actually think Sims is missing is tools to make my own story. The worlds are predefined and are all modern more or less and this limits me very much in telling what I want. Create a world (which we've had in older games) is a minimum this game needs to have. And options to configure sim behavior in every world (whether or not to cross over from other worlds, whether or not to use cell phones etc).
@@Crisalpha What I would love is 'emergent scenarios', like if you move a family with Teen kids to a different world, maybe there is a chance of the sim getting homesick so you have to resolve certain actions like them making a friend in the new world etc. The scenarios feel like the best narrative delivery in the Sims, but it;'s really on there at the start of a save file. It would be a way for them to let players go through the steps for the Reaper Rewards scenario later on too if they introduce it as a scenario
Yep. 31 kits. 17 expansion packs 😆. Half of these expansions are broken and/or some are considered game packs with expansion pack label and price tag.
@@Crisalphasooooo agree. I have enough things to dress up my sim in and upgrading beds has lost all meaning. Like it use to be a game mechanic…better beds = better sleep. Make more money, upgrade objects that make Sims life better. Now they game is so OP its full of high comfort objects there’s very little challenge in finding money to buy. I think both the creators they picked are brilliant, there items are quality, but they don’t enhance the actual simulation in any way.
Its almost like theyre using the cc creators as contract workers
You get some money but job security is non existent and they dont have to pay as much as official employees, no benefits etc but if pre established cc creatora probably have other ways to support themselves and wont be worse off obviously but its interesting to think about on eas side as a business model why they may do what they do
I assume it likely is yes, contract work where they get a flat fee. I am fairly sure they used contract workers for some kits before if not most
I hope you feel better soon, Erin. Look forward to seeing your reaction to the live. These kits are cool. I'm curious to see them. I really like this direction that the Sims Team is going in. It's a breath of fresh air.
thank you.
yeah, I was a little not sure at first about a 'new kit type' but I think this is an improvement
Kits are very valuable to console players
Feel Better Erin... being sick sucks. 😫
much appreciated!
Sorry to hear you’re not feeling well; I hope you get it figured out and feel better soon!
As for the kits, neither is particularly appealing to me, but they do look well made. As long as the creators are truly being compensated fairly for their work, then I think it’s a great idea ti start involving them in kit creation.
There seems to be a change I don't think hasn't been covered which is how the death and game over works with the new update/Life and Death. Prior to Life and Death, Sims who died or are removed by the Social Worker would be gone for good while having the last Sim die or losing all adults (Teen, Young Adult, Adult, and Elder) if you have a baby, infant, toddler, or child in the household would trigger a game over message. The update changes it where Sim who dies can either be made a playable ghost similar to Sims dying in The Sims 2 Console and The Sims 3 PS3/Xbox 360 or become non-playable similar to previous PC/Mac games, and Sims removed by the Social Worker are no longer deleted. You can still get the game over you choose to make the last Sim (or maybe adult if the household has children or pets) unplayable. It's unknown if playable ghosts can be resurrected like in The Sims 3.
idk why anyone would think cc creators arent being compensated fairly. they made all the assets on their own. if it wasnt worth it theyd just put it on their patreon as they would normally.
The fact that they don't give any details on the compensation plan (one-time fee vs. royalties) is highly suspicious, and I wouldn't put it past EA to be cheapskates with creators, as they are with everything.
From the Sims 4 official site: “Throughout this process, all creators have been fairly financially compensated according to competitive market standards at every stage for their time, input, and expertise.” What this means 🤷🏽♀️
@@oceanegougeon3025 right but im saying they make money from their patrons so if it wasnt worth the money to make a pack with ea idk why they wouldnt just do it on patreon like they normally would
@@caitlynl7213 one can think it worth it because it seems like a huge lump sum, without realising that the big corporation will be able to make much much more using our work indefinitely. I'm talking ethics, not pure underpaid exploitation.
I knew they would be compensated; idk what fairly by EA terms means, of course
I like the idea of having CC creators make the official content for the Sims game. I'm not saying the Gurus don't have a clue how to make good content, but content creators don't have to feel the same level of time crunch that gurus do in getting content out on a deadline.
As a consumer's pov, I see it being the same whether it is ea collaboration or this creator's kit. It's a matter of participation level. I do hope that the cc creators are well compensated.
As for these kits, I don't know if it gives mid century vibes, but it's giving the apartment from Friends tv series. Maybe it's just me.
I dont buy kits either, but if they're going to exist, this makes sense as a way to do them. We do actually need more sleepwear in th game as well, in my opinion.
yea! I def think it's good to see them improve since they will be around
I hop you get well soon. It´s nice with some more sleepwear and something that might make the home look a bit like they have a history.
Nothing wrong with a few weeks of self-care. Get well soon.
appreciate it. certainly hope it isn't weeks!
@@SimmerErin We can't always say. If it is something like chronic allergies or whatever it could take awhile to figure out what pollens etc are the causes and get the right meds etc and that can take an eternity. I hope it is something easy to kick, but if not, I hope everything goes well.
As a console player this is exciting would have rather had hairs or something a little more useful then more sleep wear but my concern is that cc creators are getting a fair pay from their work. Also I don’t understand why EA can’t just support adding mods and cc available in a gallery for all players to download. There are a few games lately that are doing crossover mods being available in game for both PC and console players. It’s typical EA tho figuring a way they can monetise it for console players rather then allowing it to be free downloads. My theory is they know consoles will pay as they don’t have any other option for content in the game and they want to take advantage of that rather then adding a way that all players can fairly access the same content.
I play on console so I like kits (a little). The pajama one looks nice and I feel like I constantly wear the same 3 things for pajamas so would be nice to get something new
I hope you feel better soon!
thanks!
My only wish would have been if they just polished up CC and added it to the game for free like Farming Simulator does. You can play on console and get mods/CC that the devs just add to the game. I also get wanting to monetize but a few of the "packs" could have been freely added.
I don’t have any kits in my game, im just worried that with more build items with these kits builders will start to use them a lot in their builds and when i get a build from the gallery i will miss a lot of items 😢
ah, yeah, that is a potential consequence
I was excited to see two creators I really like...then less excited to see kinda boring themes! We had sleepwear as a new kit...not that long ago? Wasn't the lingerie/pajama stuff this year? Seems weird to do that theme again so soon. Sleepwear is something you only see for a little while, anyways. More interesting formal wear, or something instead.
That said, I hope you feel better! I'm having a sincerely difficult time with allergies making me feel sick, but lots of pills going in each morning helps...sudafed is my hero with all this sinus goop, ugh! Feel well soon. Get rest. Drink water!
did you see the kit survey? kinda seems like not super creative ideas coming up
How would you feel about kits that were product placement, but were free? I wonder if part of the reason that the Sims team reach out is that it gives them a chance to quietly vet that the creator doesn't have CC that is ripped off from trademarked or copyright designs (a potential legal issue), but on thinking that, it reminded me of the Sims 2 packs about H&M and IKEA. In the Sims 2, you bought product placement! I'd be interested if fashion companies and maybe other companies like electronics companies would pay for the Sims 4 team to create free kits, for the people who didn't mind brands showing up in game, but I may be in a minority in that.
I actually find the selection in CAS and BB a bit overwhelming so I don't see myself using kits. For the people who want the extra stuff, this does feel like a decent way to do it
hmm,.. so what kind of product placement - oh you mean brands. I'm not sure if they'd do that for a kit or not cause there are the licensing costs too. I am not against brands... more very much it depends.,
I liked how sims 2 did it
@@SimmerErin I didn't think they were bad packs in Sims 2, it just galls me paying for a company to advertise to me! I love the idea of a Sony pack where we could get a PS5, an Alpha camera, a Vaio laptop (if they still do that subbrand), maybe a few 'simified' posters for their movies and bands, maybe a few bits of CAS items like band t-shirts and hoodies, but it would still bug me that I'm buying an advert...
Please take care and don't overexert yourself! It is OK to let your health come first sometimes.
that is true, thank you 💕
I love trillyke's stuff, I got a bunch of it in my mods folder rn 😅
I don't think I've seen myshunosun's stuff before, I'll have to look into it!! Good for both of them, they deserve the recognition ☺️
I haven't either, though that says little since I don't follow bb cc much. It looks like they are quite talented
Get better soon. Cover what you can. I like the fact creators are being asked. The kits look cute. Although until I can start playing regularly I won’t be getting anything new.
Yeah! they also have creators for builds again for the new ep
I feel sleepwear is a waste of my money. We could use more build items.
I would be generally more keen on bb, but do think the non cc sleepwear is not wonderful ha
They should totally make these stuff packs rather than kits. I feel by just using their name as a stuff pack (ie. Moschino) so instead of just slumber kit call it the Myshunosun Stuff Pack
I wonder if stuff packs will go MIA like game packs have (again) hard to say
The cc creator who made the pjs kit is doing the lords work. 🙏🏾
PJs are seriously lacking in the game
Oof I get that, I am on the other end of college work but I know it is tricky.
I hope you feel better soon. Normally when I am feeling unwell I like to drink chamomile tea with honey, I don’t know if that helps to much though it tastes good.
the best of wishes to you and your work!
Yes, that does sound good
I hope we’re getting hair kits from creators, like long hair packs. Good lord we need nice long hair. We have been getting it lately though.
I would love that, but I also sometimes doubt it will happen
I'm not a fan of kits but it could be the start of something good, material created by people who really love Sims and understand the fans, but I'm not naive this doesn't mean all our dreams will come true, but something is something.
def. there's certainly positive aspects of doing it this way
I’m wondering if the creators get a portion of the sales.
In what world would they do all this hard work for free for a multi-billion dollar company? LMAO, not to mention that legally they have to be paid.
I'd say definitely not. I doubt they get amywhere close to what the in-house creators get and they wouldn't get anything from sales. It's not how companies work.
It's a good question because it isn't specified if it's a flat fee, but I would guess that it's honestly just a flat fee. idk.
@@christabelle__ The OP wasn't saying they wouldn't get paid, or they were working for free. They were asking if it was a percentage of the sales, as opposed to a flat fee or some other method.
@@Elwaves2925 I feel like the better model would be the way royalties work for authors - there is an advance, but they only get a percentage of sales once a certain number of books have been sold (effectively once the company has recouped the advance from the sales). it gives them a nice lump sum up front, and then hopefully the residuals will continue to drip on in later months
Feel better Erin ❤ thanks for the update.
Thanks, appreciate it!
Hm, I would bet they have been compensated as a one-time thing and had to give away their rights regarding their creations. So, very small cost for EA, who will be able to cash out multiple times on this thanks to all the sales. A royalties system, like a percentage on the sales on top of the initial compensation, would be way more ethical, but I'm guessing this isn't the route they're going with, knowing EA.
And before anyone comes at me with "employees don't get to keep their owner rights on their creations either": Indeed, but they have the advantage of being employees. There, EA is just using cheap labour, this is their new idea to cut even more costs while digging deeper into the unethical business practices.
I wonder why these didn't make the road map though?
you know that's a very valid question and I have no idea why
Boring? Not at all! This sounds cool! Of course, I don't totally understand what these "creator kits" actually are. Is it some kind of advanced form of fanmade, custom content? Anyway, I hope you feel better, Simmer Erin.
It's more of what we already have with kits. Just that they are made by cc creators. 😅
@@astrologym1939 Wow! I wonder if that could give us more costumes of fictional characters! For a sentral mod hub, Curseforge sure is missing a lot.
thanks! just seems like kits but the creators are making the assets
I would love a kit dedicated to affordable decorative items .... more paintings to adorn my walls with a higher environment rating and that are available in many palettes and to allow us to choose our frame from a multiple choice in colours and styles from the ornate to the simple...I'd like more cultural paintings and more wall items, such as African Masks, Aztec, Canadian Soapstone carvings, Mythological Aspects, Egyptian Artifacts that can also be free standing items like they have in Jungle Adventure but different and that we can place in our homes.. Humans have created such beautiful works, intricate and simplistic in detail...It would also be nice to have our Sims create clay/marble statue in a least three different size...What do you think about something like that. Also once upon a time we were able to put in our Sims files different pictures that we could ask our Sims to paint...can we still do that?
Yes yes yes yes and yes. Being able to choose if we want a painting to he horizontal or vertical different color frames and different sizes even.
good ideas!
i hope you feel better soon
thank you,I really appreciate it
Oh Erin I do worry about you! Really I do. I know you've been fragile of late and perhaps it's time for a break. Why not take a sabbatical and write another book? The World needs another Erin book and you need a rest. Please take of yourself.
I’m excited for these particular kits cuz finally we are getting in game cc and it’s also good for the cc creators… who doesn’t want their own creations in the game officially and get paid for it! That’s great!! I will always say kits are worth the 5$ a lot of the items are better than what we get in other packs. Just saying lol
hey upside is kits don't tend to add problems or at least substantial ones
@@SimmerErin very true lol
Feel better and cover it as you can. What you give us is beyond most UA-camrs. Later, Erin.
appreciate it!
Love the concept of collaborating with content creators but these specific two themes do absolutely nothing for me.. another sleepwear kit and more mid century modern stuff.. no added value to the game :/
Yeah they did sleepwear VERY recently...it's a weird choice.
yeah, I do think they need to branch out more in terms of their themes. I thought the nursery kit was pleasant an added something new
Also feeling sick. Gotta love flu and cold season.
ah, I'm so sorry. I hope you feel better soon🫂
more people are getting sick and it's normal in colder seasons, i'm not one of them yet but I wish you a speedy recovery
I'm not a fan of kids but this one actually looks good
which one
@@SimmerErin sorry I meant to say both of these
They have more of the good quality cc feel to them
The sleepwear looks like something for toddlers, not a fan, all that is missing is a diaper under there and there you go. How about some more adult stuff? (EDIT: I don't mean actual toddlers, just exaggerating a big, but it doesn't look very adult to me, but maybe there's more in the pack that fits that category. :P )
I don't agree, but I would assume there would be some plain swatches too if it's the swatches
@@SimmerErin Could just be a geography thing I imagine, never in my life seen anyone wear things like that here in Sweden as an adult. I definitely meant no offense as for the quality of the items, so don't mistake my criticism for meaning bad work, anyone :)
@@Wintermist-SWE you're fine! I do think sims 4 leans a bit younger too than I always like.
I just want to have a band
that'd likely be in an ep
Sorry to hear you're feeling rough, it's not exactly the best timing for you either but it never is.
More kits? Yawn. Creators should definitely be compensated and compensated well, although I bet it's not much. They are effectively working for EA at that point, doing the same job the in-house creators would be doing. Anything less would be theft.
thank you, yeah it's not, but it is what it is. I'm guessing it's prob a flat rate but how much that is idk
@@SimmerErin Yeah, I suspect a flat rate too. The only way we'll find out how much is if one of them reveals it but that might require their relationship with EA to go sour first.
I certainly have a strong opinion on the subject of commercializing mods. Which I won’t bother anyone with.
Excellent video! 👌
Good thing these are official content and not monetized mods...which aren't allowed legally! It's also a GREAT thing that the community has practically been frothing to see EA worth directly with modders and use their work. Look on any video showing off any TS4 mod, and people will be like "I don't see why EA won't just work with modders and pay them for their work"...then they do, and you're mad that small time creators who outshine EA themselves are getting paid...and we benefit? What a wildly cruel and illogical stance to have.
I mean, how is this different from them selling the OTHER sleepwear kit? The only difference is that a smaller creator gets some money, this time, but we all still get professional quality work that comes from real people in tune with real trends, instead of old people stuck in a cubicle.
@@christabelle__ I agree with what you said except with "old people stuck in a cubicle". Why would you make such an assumption. People are different and have different visions and want different things. There's crapton of CC out there that I find absolutely ugly that other people love and would never use, the only thing is that you have many many options of CC and pick what you like. So it's bound you're gonna like something but you're defo not gonna like and vibe with ALL CC.
Also, may I remind you we live in a lot of different countries. For example the horrible pants that show ankles for men are considered trendy in Korea and other countries but they're considered outdated and ugly and unkempt in my country. Trends are not universal and are volatile and it's a mistake to try to keep up, that's why EA fails in the first place (unlike CC creators, it takes EA months to push something out and it will be the same for CC creators working through EA).
@@christabelle__ I’m not quite sure which part of my comment warranted a response, but thank you for your opinion. Be that as it may, I still don’t feel the need to share my thoughts on the matter. Have a wonderful day! 😊
Thank you!
my opinion is that an early access period of a week or two is fine
@@SimmerErin Absolutely! Modders do a wonderful job and deserve (voluntary) compensation.
What I mean by commercializing mods, is the process of turning it into a business transaction. I’m opposed to AAA gaming publishers poaching mod creators to turn a profit, all under the guise of supporting them. In the end, it will be EA that profits the most from this.
I believe, modding should remain free from corporate influence. It has always been a non-capitalistic way to share creations between players. Turning it into a business, naturally leads to unhealthy competition and cookie-cutter content.
Of course, I may well be wrong.
The prospect of getting compensated for a mod, might even animate more people to create them. Which, ultimately, is a good thing for the players and mod creators alike. As long as mods aren’t needed to make the game fun in the first place.
Arguably, what EA does with Creator Kits, is not monetizing mods per se. Still, they approached modders, for the sole purpose of using their creative talents. It goes without saying, that the product (custom content) is what EA is after, not the person who creates it. They don’t have to employ them or pay benefits. Which makes it much more profitable for EA.
I’d rather see EA provide a mod manager, which would allow console users to download mods - free of charge. As a multi-billion dollar company, EA should be able to compensate mod creators who contribute their work. Simply because mods increase the game’s appeal. It would encourage more people to play it.
Furthermore, a free mod manager would show appreciation for their dedicated fans.
Brand loyalty is worth more than a quick profit.
To be honest, I can’t rightly say, where this will lead and whether it will have a positive impact on gaming as a whole.
I reserve my right to remain sceptical.
Now look at that. I shared my thoughts after all.
Thanks for bearing with me. 🤓
A wonderful day to all of you! 😊
Good morning.
hope you're doing well
awsome video friend
pet kit with dog kennel next
Kinda glad we don't have 'dog prison' in the game...ugh. Nothing more cruel than taking an animal - even a human - and putting it in a little box. It's cruel. Don't get dogs if you're gonna treat them more cruel than a zoo treats THEIR animals, damn. Animals need to move around, fuilly stretch out, run, play...people who don't have a home suited to that don't need pets.
@@christabelle__ I didnt mean dog shelter.