PASS THE PICASSO! First test for the mega-miles MPV: What's it like underneath?
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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How does a Citroen Xsara Picasso which has covered more than 512,000 miles (or 825,000km) look underneath after all those journeys?
Time to get it on the ramp and find out!
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I told you not to look at the sills! We did wonder how long the gearbox oil would take to leak out again. Not very long it seems...
They're horrific. Almost Clement roof bad.
No, don't look at the sills, we all want to end up with Roger Moore's Renault 11!
@@UPnDOWN Time for a sill mini-jig, I suppose!
A report was tendered to VOSA today stating that Xsara Picasso Sills were not part of the cars structural regidity. If found true the sills will only be an advisory on the MOT going forward 😮
finding wiper blades on cars post-HubNut gag will never get too old. I loved when you did that on Betty, I loved it here. have a good time
The funny thing is that neither of those were planted. They were genuinely there like that.
I used to have a 206 with a 2.0 HDi lump, this actual one I should imagine. When I bought it, the engine cover only had two fixings (don't remember which corners), so I took it off, but a couple of years later, I decided that it looked daft leaning against a wall inside my house, so I refitted it to the car. I started getting coolant warnings, and true enough, the car was steadily losing coolant from a bleed value on the right of the engine which, as it happens, had been disturbed and loosened by an unsecured engine cover (fancy that). I removed the cover, purchased non-OEM fixings (i.e. not made of chocolate), fitted the cover properly and never had the issue again for as long as I owned the car.
You are absolutely the right man to have this car.
Haha!
Rich you're a genius, i can see your videos reaching cult status. 👏👏👏
I've been told that before, although they spelled 'cult' slightly differently.
Vigo is in Galicia, Northwestern Spain and the Citroen plant there has been pumping odd cars for several decades, including a large number of Picassos
Naaaaaa, it's Portugal innit
All things considered, it's not too bad.
It's really not.
I'd love to have an MOT certificate that said that.
@@markstott6091 😆
Got the 1.6 hdi version, had it 7 years and still good at 220k on clock.... Not bad for a £100, banger... Very good little workhorse
hi im going to look at one with no history, what do i need to do to stop any problems with the 1.6hdi , thank you
I really hope you can strike a deal and get the go-ahead to sort this survivor on the channel… I know they don’t inspire you but it’s a very effective well designed and built vehicle that makes a statement amongst the modern tat people buy now.
They're very good cars, I'd never doubt that.
You opening and closing that door should be made into a GIF. Or a GIF.
1,000,000km would be 621,371 miles. It has to happen!
Whether you do the work or not, it is good to have someone like you give it a thorough inspection. Going beyond the MOT bits and bobs could really help sustain it for a lot longer. Things like the engine cover clips, wheel arch liner. That spring looked like it had been broken for years!
It's definitely not a recent thing.
Congratulations getting to 10,000 and another good video 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👏
🎉
Dear Reader,
This whole test, and everything Mr. UPnDOWN has detected is a testimony of the level of the technical skill and the professional attitude of a man that seems to own a SM.
By the way, do you know that SM in Dutch stands for Sadomasochism. Well isn't that a coincidence, that Mr UPnDOWN loves to endure the steps to make his SM somewhat more acting as a real driving vehicle?
Well, all things considered; chapeau for Mr. UPnDOWN.
Michel F. van den Brun
Dutch pedestrian
He has an SM? How did I not know already?
From what I have seen is that the Picasso is not too bad underneath at all apart from the Sills, the doors still sound good quality, i know when my uncle had his Picasso it was common for the door to drop.
You are the right man to give it some TLC if the owner consents to the work and you never know it might do another 500,000 miles.
New to this channel and enjoying it love the Ronnie Pickering reference hilarious I'm a unapologetic petrol head having made more work for myself as we all have so this channel does my head in as well as kills me especially knowing this cat has crazy skills yet does what we all do. A real Mechanic there is no such thing as can't be done.if the haven't got it or don't make it we will brav effing vo
You are a good man for doing the thorough inspection it needed. I hope the owner agrees to have the work done as it is a very nice car and a shame if it couldn't keep on driving around.
You could bring the Picasso to Matt the ‘Furious sill welder’ he loves sill welding! 😂😂😂
That inspection was very thorough. Especially the horn.
I like that bumper sticker referring to being not affiliated with Ronnie Pickering!
It's old. Stuff wears out. I knowbhow that feels, trust me. Early morning starts and late night finishing cause creaking and moaning. I must need some new bushes too. Probably a bit of exhaust replacement and the odd new spring. My service warning light never goes out.
Im so blessed i have a Mechanic locally who in this day n age is salt off the earth no matter what if its worth doing yes but if its not he will say tell you no. Ive even had a friend who was dating a mechanic and had her car in for MOT work and id read the fail sheet and said sounds rich this so told her see my guy and guess what bill was halved just saying
I don't know much about pricing that work but at a guess I'd say that under normal circumstances, for a car that age, the Silver Lake retirement home would be gaining a new resident.
Best place for it
@strongandco Absolutely. To be fair, the same could be said for some of the other cars I run.
My Xsara Picasso was low on coolant with no obvious leaks. It turned out to be failed O rings in the heater matrix - left hand side of the centre console behind the ashtray/cubby hole. It was leaking out through the chassis beneath the passenger's footwell. New O rings solved it.
Good shout, cheers
Air con would be good here in the South of England.
Time for
Purple bushes
Waterless Coolant
Silicone Hoses
And a
Not so Mega Jig.
People who mock Citroëns should watch this video. Go and find another similar car and age and it won't be anywhere near as good. Just needs some TLC in its old age now.
I wouldn’t own a Citroen if it was the only car make left in the world they are aweful and as for Picassos they drive aweful from new
Dont know if you are joking but there is a middle road you know... Tons of cars the same age with same milage have the potential to be just as good, and vice versa, Citroen arent any worse on average than lots of other cars. In the end, most people making comments about cars, and certainly everyone "mocking" cars, dont know the first thing about what they are talking about. Its one of those nice easy litmus tests. No brand of cars are all good, nor all bad. On average for british road conditions, cars are better and more reliable than ever.
@@bmwman1981 "aweful" doesnt really say much, does it? It can mean just about anything in reality, all the way from you specifically dont like their color choices availible, which is as subjective as it gets, to hard statistical comparative data on reliability etc. From the tone of your comment, it seems quite clear its more like the former....
@bmwman1981 Why the fuck are you watching a video about a Citroen then?!
Besides the rusty sills, I've seen far worse vans at work that are far younger with far less miles! Just this week I was battling with a 2019 Transporter 4Motion with 94k on the clock. The flywheel was rattling like mad, the EGR valve was knackered, the front crank seal was leaking oil at a very alarming rate, and the offside front shocker was caked in damp oily mud from leaking everywhere. At 94k! Not even 100k, never mind 500k! Oh, and the current Berlingos still use that gearbox (or a very similar one), and the nearside driveshaft seal still leaks for fun on those too.
It really isn't that bad. Sort out the issues and it's still totally usable and without any real downsides caused by the mileage.
Richard, my own Xsara Picasso was the same with the sills. Fortunately, I knew somebody who could do the welding for me so that was easily sorted. The engine cover on mine was also missing so I found one in a breaker. I agree that it looks more like a 150K mile car. My 2009 Mercedes W204 C200 has 218K miles on the clock but it looks like it has half the mileage.
Why’s it allways you giving bad news… cause your someone who takes pride in their work
Sometimes the low coolant level sensor in the expansion tank can malfunction but easy enough to replace. Andrew
Who are you?
Pasta the Picasso!
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Pasta the Picasso!!
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PASTA THE PICASSO!!!
A fine inspection Richard. Quite a few surprises there.
Hahaha!
I admire your patience and persistence with these french cars
Personally I do not understand the whole buy cheap and then throw the money you saved buying something better at it until it finally becomes too much of a financial pit
Each to their own and without these nutters I would not have you guys entertaining me with your adventures with these cars
Well, I don't think the fact they're French has much to do with it, but thanks!
I guess if you buy cheap and then do it up, you're paying in installments, and if you're doing the work yourself it's YOUR car. Even if you farm the work out, the whole project 'vibe' can be enjoyable.
Just needs some TLC . amazin testament to Citroen
Great fun! I now see the subscription numbers going up n down, hard to predict when you will hit the 10k, but we will get our merchandise, I'm sure! Somewhere in the future
It's actually really odd what they're doing at the moment, if you look at the patterns over the time I've been doing it. It's screwing up the algs too.
Entertaining video.
Wonder if the owner wants everything fixed what's mentioned here. Specially the sills are going to cost a fair bit I presume. Still, excellent achievement for car and (last) owner.
My brother has had 2 of these, both with the 1.8 petrol: reliable and without the bad sills.
That computer looks like it would sort out all of the things @Hubnut is trying to fix on Bella the Berlingo. If it will talk to it, ofc.
Yup. Free Welsh holiday for Kitch, with luxurious accommodation! (It's Bob...)
Ooh, how could ANYBODY resist that?!
Engine cover: can add 4x M6 exhaust bobbins in place of the standard versions and the "twisty hat things" that seem to disappear on removal.
Exhaust clamp: put that way by someone who may have removed the previous clamp from in the correct tucked out the way position and would have uttered the phrase "how the sodding hell am I supposed to get at that rusted solid and wierdly overspeced M10 bolt!?! no room to get the 4.5" grinder in with it tucked against the bodywork!"
Not sure if diesels have full complement of heat shields (though probably all the mounting points for the petrol variants) would expect one above the catalyst though.
Ah, a thought: suspect snapped gear cables and ham fisted removal of heat shield (likely with removing the exhaust) at some poinf in its busy past.
That's a good idea, I'll do that!
The plug under the passenger side wheel arch is probably for the 1.8 16v and 2.0 16v petrol secondary air pump for emissions crap. Probably the same wiring loom except for on the engine.
Good call.
Perhaps unsurprisingly it's not mileage but age that kills cars. With the caveat, perhaps, that spectacularly under used cars probably deteriorate more rapidly.
Regular use and regular servicing combined are undoubtedly beneficial.
Thanks for this, my experience of buying a 3 year old Honda Accord with 97k miles with service history, I got to 202k miles after 7 years and sold it, and it was still running for another 3 years.
The eye of the professional always sees more than the driver of the car.
With your reading program on the laptop you can probably also help Bella de Berlingo to find out why the engine is not running properly.
James Walshe came down to help Ian with Lexia, but I don't think they found anything.
@@UPnDOWN It was the EGR-valve contaminated.
You do realise that every vehicle that goes on those ramps has an average stay of 6 months or more 😮
It's OK, I drove it home again after that.
If you're looking for a clunk in the rear suspension, forget the subframe and damper bushes, go straight to the trailing arm bearings. How much negative camber do the rear wheels have?
The Leaning Tyre of PSA. Had that on my Berlingo. Picasso still good, though.
Vigo is in SPAIN!
Lol, no it can't be
I saw it today. Unfortunately it had a puncture outside Maccys.
Nooo
I bet @JayEmm wishes the fault list on Professor Tomato was that long😊
To be fair, it was before I started working on it!
Here! I didn't know you had an SM!? 😉
Wasn't there a car advert with all that carry-on from 1:34? I'm struggling to remember what car it was for. I think it might've been a Vauxhall🤔
I have been looking foward to this video when you pass your Citreon mechanics eye over this high mileage hero of this Citroen Zsara Picasso and your opinion is that the repairs it needs are no different to a car that has done less miles as for the perished rubber parts that is age related the Citreon isn't in bad condition considering its age as for the rust thats to do with been in the UK were it snows l can't knock it because my 1997 Toyota Hilux has only done 250000 miles and in the four years l have owned it l have spent aud $1700 on it in aged related part l have replaced
My car needed a new front coil spring at around 81K Miles. Everything you showed is just fair wear and tear which you would expect of any 21 year old car.
That plug you found unplugged is that to do with the air conditioning
I wouldn't have thought so, but you never know.
What is the software you are using to connect to the ecu?
Lexia
O/S/R handbrake cable looks shagged (11m36s) ?
Rear arm bearings ok ? Drop links ? Bottom ball joints too ? Brake pedal linkage recall done ?
Obviously there will be more little issues here and there, but if I film everything it ends up being too long. It was pushing it here.
Handbrake seems fine. Cable's probably a bit grotty, but to be expected. Arm bearings seem OK, but short of taking them out...?
Drop links & ball joints seem OK. Brake pedal recall...no idea, I'm not Citroen and it's not my car!
Not stopped you making looong videos before lol but yes it would take a fair bit of filming in-between your customer work, I just spotted the cable in the video but it could just be a label or cable tie, things I mentioned are just the common issues I've experienced in the past having worked at Citroën for my sins, and regarding the brake recall on RHD Xsara Picasso's, there was a modified clip if I remember which stops a pin coming out from the brake pedal attachment under the dash, it required contortionism to carry out the recall so we used to drill a hole in the dashboard under the rubber mat on the driver's side to access the linkage, slept a few times since but can't remember if we put a little paint on the linkage or chassis plate ?
Anyway, keep up the good work me old Citroën specialist 😉👍
“Not affiliated with Ronnie Pickering” 😂😂😂
Maybe you could pass it on to Furious Driving, he seems to be the youtube welding specialist.
His welding is certainly very special!
Its next custodian is already arranged, but after that, possibly?
2:56 Who's Ronnie Pickering?
I'M RONNIE PICKERING!!
Are any of those bits of old cable ties the fabled hubnut emblazoned ones??? 🤔
Haha, could be!
Interesting, which software/hardware interface is that? I'm using PP2000/Lexia for my 407, clip for my Master.
It's Lexia.
@@UPnDOWN Wow, the interface looks weirdly different to mine; especially the colours.
I'm shocked ............ you had a four post without a vehicle on it!
Looks like the sills have had some fibreglass mat applied in the past. How legal is that now days? You may not want to fix it but I can't think of a better man for the job. Hopefully the owners wallet is compatible.
It's about as legal as it's ever been...
Being as the coolant was low, I think I might have done a cooling fan test with the lexia.
What would that confirm?
@@UPnDOWN Doesit have 2 cooling fans or only 1? If it has 2 it might confirm why the AC is not working.
@@rimmersbryggeri Interesting thought! Seems to be some kind of electrical fault if the computer can't talk to the AC system.
@@Ragnar8504 yes but if the system has a separate fan for the AC and that doesnt spin it will cause the system not to work. If that fan is connected to some kind of data bus that is shorted to ground that may cause all sorts of no com problems. Peugeots computer diagnostics kind of is in a world of its own though when you use the factory computer because it tries to communicate with systems that are not installed and fails to communicate with installed systems for seemingly the most trivial reasons. Lets just hope its not the ac clutch relay inte the BSI.
@@rimmersbryggeri The clutch does seem to work though. Time for some advanced hardware fault finding I suppose!
So, will it all buff out?
It could be made to drive very nicely, IMO.
So is the headgasket shagged ?
Nothing to indicate that, no.
@@UPnDOWN just seemed likely when you saw evidence of k seal and was losing water
@@HA05GER I'm remaining positive 😆
@@UPnDOWN that's probably for the best with that thing 😂
Funny how Lexia asks for mileage then says Kilometres when you put it in.
That's why it threw me.
OK...setting up your camera so we can see the lower half of your head and the black hole of the engine compartment (sans engine) may not be the optimal angle.
Viewers of this channel aren't here for the cinematography!
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Nearside Front Outer Drive shaft joint constant velocity boot severely deteriorated (6.1.7 (g) (i))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside Suspension component mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive outer sill (5.3.6 (a) (i))
Offside Suspension component mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive outer sill (5.3.6 (a) (i))
Offside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))
Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases (6.1.2 (a))
no disrespect but i feel mot laws are a bit soft these days.....and it was moted in january
MoT laws are very soft.