LGBT & The Islamic Refuge | Imam Tom Facchine & Dr. Shadee Elmasry
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I got some books from the library with my kids, they chose one called Welcome to the Family. My 10 year old daughter who consumes books brought it to me and said we can't read this because they talk about a family having 2 dads. I snatched the book and wanted to burn it 😂 but was so proud of her for immediately red flagging it for her little brother 💪 Scary times we're living in
I’m happy for you for raising a righteous daughter. May Allah protect her and make her a benefit for Islam in these times.
@@Wise__guy Ameen. And the same for you 🤲
Applaus to their parents!👍👍👍
Well, then pay more attention to what they pick at the library, first.
@@brofutv1853 Yeah I've learnt my lesson now
Two sharp, unapologetic imams.. imam Tom the stoic, philosopher like type and Dr shadee the straightforward, warrior type. The cross over between you two is underrated. Barakallahu fiih
Imam Tom destroys the stupid philosophers arguments with the Quran and sunnah and his ilm of the shariah lol idk if you’ve seen his other videos but he says what ibn taymiyyah says that the shariah is in line with reason…hayakAllah bro
Masha'Allah
They have no opposition so of course it sounds like they are making sence the moment you bring on an LGBT Muslim they will start sounding really dumb.🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Two people that embody the Sunnah. Tom's ability to be the unapologetic theory guy and then be the most warm and humble teacher in a FREE Arabic class...Shadees dedication to sitting with the youth and us mere mortal Muslims untangling profound knowledge so that we can digest it without ever being condescending. These two have a special place in my heart and In'sha'Allah in Jannah tul Firdous. May all their efforts way heavy on their scale 🤲
America as wretched a land as it can be seems to churn out the best and worst of everything. Best tech. Best military. Worst degeneracy,
/sexual ethics, worst gun culture, worst media polarising the masses for profit over peace.
Best imams (bayyinah, yaqeen, zaytuna, epic masjid, utica).
The quality of Islamic dawah coming from the states is better than the UK. And the Muslim community here is so much bigger and established.
Ya Allah, please protect our brothers and families in the states, please allow the dheen the propagate and reward the imams and daees for their noble efforts. Ameen.
@@barryhay8935 Ameen. Don't forget Safina Society. An absolute treasure trove 🌟
@@jannahplease nice one, dr shadees channel, he gets tweeted a lot by blogging theology, a brilliant dude indeed
The #1 challenge facing parents today.
Two of my favorite Shuyookh in one video. This is great.
Where is al Lah cballah nasrallah ?
Very thought provoking discussion.
Is this penguin book everywhere? We picked the same from a library here in France a couple of years ago. I was lucky to be the one reading it to the children and had to change what I was reading while I was reading it! We are very careful since.
Thank you for this discussion! In nyc there are several Islamic schools but all were full and it’s been frustrating to get my daughter in. SubhanAllah even the hifiz programs are all full! I will keep trying but Alhumdulliah they have lots of weekend schools and summer camps that we will do in the meantime. Love your work ❤
The reason we moved from NYC to Houston to keep our kids in Islamic School
Jazakum Allahu kheiran brothers for your efforts
At 7:20 Imam Tom mentioned that now there is an awareness and push back. I find this statement to be really ironic. Muslims from predominately black communities were warning the greater community about this stuff decades ago. Hamza Yusuf warned the community in 2016 only to then be attacked for calling it out. Imam Zaid did the same thing around the same time. Why is it that when prominent scholars warned the community years ago no one listened.
I agree 100%. There were people who saw this coming and if they had been listened to, perhaps we wouldn't have fallen so far behind in organizing.
However, I also believe that now that many people have finally woken up we shouldn't engage in too much "I told you so." This is an all-hands-on-deck moment and if people have changed their minds, alhamdulillah.
-Imam Tom
A refreshing discussion between 2 brothers al hamdulilah
Dr Shadee dropping gems. May Allah preserve him and imam Tom.
Many people who aren’t religious still aren’t comfortable with it but too afraid to say it in case they get misjudged or labelled
I was thinking about pulling my kids out of private Islamic school because I was having mixed feelings about the quality, but you gave me a new perspective, that school serves a far bigger purpose to our community.
Do it we did it its draining our account and we are searching our money to the limit but like imam said we can't put a price tag for saving our kids from this filth
Very eye opening, it really did not occur to me how dire the situation was. SubhanAllah what a wake-up call. May Allah use us for his deen and not replace us. Barak Allah feekum.
Great discussion.
Much harder raising kids these days than even ten years ago.
Tell me about it raising 4 boys and its all hell
Alhamdullilah. These are the discussions to be having, to lay the foundations for action. iA that'll be the next step. The coming together of the minds that will be the impetus for this collective effort.
The topic on neighborhoods is definitely real!
There's more developments happening in my area (on the east coast) with Muslim neighborhoods next to Masjids
Alhamdulillah
but they're expensive right now
Where at ?
@@native5647 Im from NC there is a neighborhood planned in the RTP area
and I've been to Dallas and they have quite a lot of Muslim neighborhoods
@@sarim9574 I use to live in Greensboro but recently moves to Houston just because I want to put my kids in Islamic school there is a Islamic school in Raleigh but upto 8th grade no high school I heard about a Muslim housing project in the plan with the masjid but it will take years I might come back and retire there there is a huge Muslim community in Houston but mostly spread out some neighborhoods has a big Muslim population around masajids but you still can't call it fully Muslim neighborhoods I heard Dallas has a big Muslim community too
@@native5647 that is correct, the current Islamic school goes up to 8th grade, there are plans for a highschool but as you said its years away still
But Raleigh area does have some pretty good charter and private schools so that's an option
My wife is from Dallas, and while its on the table to move there, I would really miss Raleigh a lot
but iA will see how it goes
@@sarim9574 brother I miss NC beauty there is no comparison with TX its a beautiful State I miss mountains but has to make this sacrifice for kids my wife is from NY one choice was to move to NY but the cost of living and the overall environment was not good I have not visit Dallas yet my one cousin lives in forthworth and other lives in Dallas.
I remember, as a visible Muslim student at a big university in the Midwest, attending a program for religious studies majors and being openly insulted in front of everyone and Islam denigrated by a professor: “Islam is pretty simplistic isn’t it?” and I could feel the snickering of these atheist religious studies majors sitting all around me. Ended up changing majors. Sometimes it’s not worth it to stay.
JazakumAllahu khair
I have experienced
a. Getting hired by a library because they could tick the diversity box and then all they do is ask me about homosexuality for 9 months
b. Not passing probation
Then my wife wants divorce cause I lose my job. She thinks I am making this up. Astugfirillah
Now as a school teacher, I get support from the conservative Christian’s because I am the only one who can articulate virtue and ethics (because Christian’s have lost this ability)
Are you serious
@@khanm6241 yes
@@mattubaclig1203 May Allah give you sabr and give you better than what you lost
@@mattubaclig1203lots of feminism in muslim women nowadays.
We have to protect ourselves with dua EVERY DAY and stick to the prayers
Amazing podcast!
Yes, why are we so “molested” to want to study under the haters of Islam? Why do we suffer from Stockholm syndrom?
He is completely right.
Beautiful discussion. I have a lot of respect for Tom Facchine,. This is 1 pollution that we cannot afford to leak into an Islamic institution (you know which one i referring) that is highly regarded.
As you said the benefit of this alliance is pointless compared to the downfall in eye of Allah.
What a challenging time it is to be raising kids these days. 😢😢
Amazing episode!
the reverts like tom facchine are definitely the new islamic revolution Allahuakbar
Allahumma ❤ both these imams. This is exactly what we need right now. Needs an organisation and qualified skilled professionals leading such projects.
Near the end you reminded me of how our societies now are obsessed with categories and quantifying data... When in fact a human being transcends the confines and limitations of superficial categories. Let's aim for quality... both inwardly and outwardly...with others and with ourselves, iA.
جزاک اللہ خیرا
Salam alikoum, thank you gentlemen for your interesting and informative discussion, it is sad that a Mirhab was stolen from a masjid in Iran and placed in the Met but Soubhana Allah it is a way for me to learn a new and important word: Mirhab 😊
Dear brothers, thank you very much. May Allah reward you for your deeds. Is there a way to reach you Tom to ask advice from you? If yes, please inform me. Peace be upon you.
My oldest said their last trip to the library she had to be highly selective with my eight year old's 📚 , between this and magic it took her a while to finally find one innocent .
Asalamalaikum Imam Tom 🙂 Blessings of Jummah! So nice to see part 2 of your talk with my local sheikh, Dr. Elmasry. Very insightful, mash'Allah 👍🙏☝️🕋
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31:00 Reading the manual without the instructor to show you how are hard things to do, and you can get your stuff broken as well if you're not careful with it. Well said brother. Salam
سلام عليكم..جزاك الله خيرا..
I am listening from Egypt..
Those Deep rooted Advises and beneficial Reminders are essentially important oxygen and Guidance to Navigate and being more Mindfulness..
Rabbana Youstoor ❣️ 📿 📚🤲🕋
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmalullahi wa Barakatoh.
I had to build up my own bookshelf for my children to choose their reading material from, not only for reading and comprehension, and recreational activity, but for school novel studies, (book reports), because almost everything is disgusting now.
The hard porn and rape porn in novels alone is overwhelming, and now its being innundated with gay porn and, boy-rape porn, (for example, every high school student in Ontario has to read The Kite Runner).
Not my kids. I fought every single school and every single English literature teacher to allow me to choose their novel studies books due to this particular book, ( none of the alternative choices they offered were aporopriate either). One even tried to intimidate my husband, saying he is only objecting to The Kite Runner because he is a Taliban supporter!
I ripped a verbal slice off the Vice Principal when my husband came home and told me the teacher refused accomodation based in that argument. She pretended she didn't know the content when I told her what was so offensive, and granted accomodation.
You HAVE to fight for your children! They have declared war on them.
I suggest raising your children in Muslim countries at this point
I think it's a good idea but too many Muslim countries aren't stable or have opportunities or freedom unfortunately
@@abdulrahmanabdulkadri4825 But there are also many countries that have opportunities although freedom can be different from one place to another
Ppl can start with raising their kids in Muslim communities. Pulling them from public school even if that means they get little to no schooling at all. Knowing your ABCs is not 1/10 as important as knowing your deen and putting deen first. At the very least the weakest of Muslim parents need to stop sending their teens to school on Friday and let them attend the Masjid on that day every week with no exceptions.
God bless your efforts
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
The doctor is speaking straight facts.
Alhamdulillah, some reasonable perspectives ❤
17:10 Subhanallah I just realized this, even though the Prophet PBUH already passed away, He still guides (guidance is from Allah I don't mean this guidance from him. ykwim) every new Muslim and Muslim today as a Messenger with His Seerah. Allahu Akbar.
I'm having difficulty finding the Coalition of Virtue website Imam Shadi mentioned
Idk which timestamp you're talking about I'm still in the beginning. But you're probably referring to the Alliance of Virtue. Look that up, should take you to the right place.
Edit: oops nvm just got to the timestamp I was wrong. Though it's scary that I accidentally came across the above site. You'll see why I said that once you open it up... Absolute trip. (and no I couldn't find what Sh. Shadi was talkin about.)
Reminds me of the people of “LOT”
Iman booster! BarakAllahou fikoum. May Allah multiple the likes of those shoyoukh
May Allah bless both imam Tom and Dr. Elmasry.
Hidden gems of the Ummah ☺️
How about inviting brother Daniel Haqiqatjou for a talk.
He just spread misinformation and don't like anyone
May Allah bless you All. And may Allah protect us and our families from this fitna.
this is better than making alliances with lgtv
I stopped trusting the government less and started homeschooling my kids here in Canada.
Like you guys mentioned, here in Canada it’s getting worse by the day, soon we’ll be like sodom and gomorra and Allah punishment may come down, insha allah not soon and not for the victims.
Alhamdulillah.
La hawla wa la kuata ila bilah a way to condition people to accept this kind of behaviour
Just how people form around the world used to and still now send their children usa for higher education
Now time has changed i don't know about everybody but Muslim communities need to (no "have to") send their kids to Muslim countries for their elementary, junior and higher school education at least
Otherwise you won't be able to protect your children from them
You will guide your children at home but you can't at school remember school of kids are their first and biggest target
May Allah protect us and our upcoming generation
Gender ideology is very institutionalized in west thats something which makes it scary May allah protect the Ummah from this utter confusion.
This is honestly depressing to listen to
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
وفي خلقه شؤون
فسبحان الله العظيم الخالق الباري المصور
Mashallah based
Books need to have a rating, just like movies.
الحمدلله ❤
Homeschool networks and networking would be a great idea.
Islamic schools would be a must now a days, rather a necessity in the west !
2:20 so bro tom why u signed up up on that yassir quadhi paper ?
Surah Hud (11) 69-83....Alhamdullilah. InshaAllah when our children,or anyone for that matter,approaches us about this subject we are to use THIS BOOK. No library book is needed to water it down and manipulate. Like Allah says HIS words are easy to remember and easy on the tongue. Alhamdullilah
MashaAllah
There's a lot of truth that being with the likes of Prophet SAW is much better than with having and reading a lot of books which meant the continuing pursuit of education and learning. Unfortunately there will never be anyone like Rasulullah SAW to closely follow and emulate with the knowledge that Rasulullah SAW is maksum and always in the guidance of Allah SWT. The issue is there is not one person that we could be certain of. We are told to hold on the Quran and Sunnah which meant having books to read and the continuing pursuit of knowledge and truth.
Wallahuaklam
Great idea to start proper islamic schools.
Anyone able to locate the coalition of virtue organization?
Ustad Tom, can you please address the idea of hijra for fear of coming generations becoming kuffar. There was a post that got a lot of attention showing that something like 90% of Muslims who's parents came 3 generations ago are either washed or left the deen. Baraka Allah Feek
I think it's a must but people will not do it including myself
So true...it's amazing how they want to force it every where as its a normal lifestyles Allahu Akbar 😮
Masha'Allah to brothers.
Not just meat these days, we need halal books for kids too.
Need a curator or something on some website for Muslims to curate some books for their kids.
Bless the strangers. Salam
24:42 Which Hadith is this???! 😮
Moga segala urusan Allah mudahkan mohon Allah rahmati & berkati semua
poor muslims will suffer the most they don't have the money to feed themselves let alone do hijra
These type of guys just talk rubbish about LGBT but never actually debate an LGBT Muslim who would likely destroy them in a debate 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
There is no such thing as an LGBT Muslim
@@UTICAMASJID
_Boo. There are Plenty of Gay Muslims in America. You may not agree with their choice and identity but they exist. You will never push them back into the closet._
This should have been a private phone conversation instead of a recorded uploaded discussion. Didn't get as much solid info from it. Otherwise both imams are intelligent bright individuals n I enjoy other videos
The reason why they appear to be so organized and so highly funded is because 'they' literally had made a monopoly on money itself (but this will end soon).
These people are the mushrikeen whom Allah speaks about repeatedly in the Quran they literally have an alliance with shiateen from the jinn, that's why they appear to be so oraganised, it's because the jinn time is not the same as our time. (They live longer and they are faster than humans).
Allah will soon take their power away as He did to the taghut before them. They are currently in decline. They have only been allowed to earn their place in jahannam.
The confusion in children and the masses which they plan is just another command from Iblees they are trying to fulfill, they believe that if they cause enough corruption they will have their one eyed dajjal appear, satan promises them delusion and they will be humiliated in this life and the next.
The taghut has infiltrated high levels of governments (either these governments are aware or unaware) but their plan will fail. They are also known as deep state, free mason, etc. refer to Quran verses 2: 201 and 2:102, 7:30 Al-'Ankabut 29:41
مَثَلُ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّخَذُوا۟ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ أَوْلِيَآءَ كَمَثَلِ ٱلْعَنكَبُوتِ ٱتَّخَذَتْ بَيْتًاۖ وَإِنَّ أَوْهَنَ ٱلْبُيُوتِ لَبَيْتُ ٱلْعَنكَبُوتِۖ لَوْ كَانُوا۟ يَعْلَمُونَ
English - Sahih International
The example of those who take allies other than Allāh is like that of the spider who takes [i.e., constructs] a home. And indeed, the weakest of homes is the home of the spider, if they only knew.
Subhana'Allah!
Astaghfirullah hal adzim even children book cannot escape from this propaganda.Seriously why take children innocence 😢.
I don't see as a Muslim our Muslim women are educated in Islamic behavior!
I'm seeing women gather to chatt and their kids are misbehaving a lot how Muslim community needs to fix that!
And when they are living next to each other they are bringing some negative habits with them.
I'm just asking to look for sulutions.
ما شاءالله نطق توم للعربية ممتازة جدا!!
This sounds like utopia and it would be great if this could happen. There are places like that in Canada. Communities that are largely Muslim, where most of the kids in public school are Muslim, the restaurants, stores etc. But the problem is that most of these Muslims are just wannabe white Canadians. They want to keep parts of their culture like the food, the weddings etc but not much day to day. They all do halloween, Christmas, etc. Most of them think that sticking with lgtb and liberals will improve things for them so they will not speak against it. I've seen these areas and felt like it's better to be in a place where you're the only Muslim and it's easy for your kids to understand that this is us vs. this is them. But having tons of Muslims that are doing all the wrong things is a lot more confusing. That's why I think there will always be trying to establish these little communities in non Muslim countries. Work instead to improve Muslim countries and to remove the crippling effects that the Western countries have on them to prevent them from succeeding. Effects that continue to be helped along by Muslims living in the west paying taxes, improving economies and giving away their children and future generations to non Muslim countries.
Yes, why is it that we have had to flee from Muslim countries to the very West who’s ideologies we are so against? Why are our countries in shambles??! Where are the strong Muslim men of those lands that can build them up?
It's the same everywhere in the world including all Muslim countries. Even Text books of 6th, 7th graders of public school system are filled with evolution and LGBTQ and anti Islamic stuff in science and social science books.
lol not true you are lyin
What a liar! I am in a Muslim country and there is no such thing. Why lie?
@SR-df9jd stop lies they try to do under different names and using different tricks probably in one or two burger schools but it's not wide spread or force upon ur kids
@@SR-df9jdPakistan give them 2 dollars they willing to sell their own family.
Two of the sincere brethren… may Allah preserve you both… Asalamulaikum warahmatullah… let me give you a heads up on starting your own community, the brothers acted on this model outside of Fresno CA 20 or 30 years ago… of course not long after they started to build up their numbers with multiple families purchasing land and building homes, the FBI began to apply pressure… after making the peoples lives hard for some years the community lost momentum and only a solid group of the elders stayed… most of the kids moved back to the cities… also the city government subsidized the land for a Christian organization to buy a big swath of the land around them for purposes of a retreat… I heard the Muslims of America in South Carolina and New York State are strong in numbers… and I know the Osmanli Dergah is in New York State but I don’t think they are establishing families it’s more of a retreat… that being said there are some models and it has been a reality since the 80s so if you are trying to disconnect from the secular lifestyle it maybe a good idea to find out how it’s working or didn’t work for those communities!
It’s ridiculous how insidious this disgusting delusion is, and for how long it’s been around.
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Di negara kami malaysia orang muslim taat sudah tidak kuat semoga ada yang dari belahan Eropah,america muslim yang taat datang ajar kebenaran yang sebenar ramai yang tidak tahu. Kerana hidup penuh senang mereka sudah lupa. Non Muslim dan muslim id fake serang kepercayaan orang muslim yang taat. Bila kami nasihat mereka kata kami taliban dan bersangka buruk yang kami rasa sedih kemajuan punca manusia itu kembali suka buat maksiat.
Your idea of fighting against LGBTQ is great. You said there should be unanimous stance of ummah on this how is it possible as the famous Imam Omer Suleiman who has lot of following on UA-cam and founder of Yaqeen Institute has never spoken publicly against Transgenderism neither from his pulpit nor when he is asked about it.
He always avoid the topic for unknown reasons. Question is how ummah will be united if we have Imams who are politically active and are supported by liberals they will never want to lose this support.
Sigh. Once again he has many many videos after his mistake and said it many times it’s haram. But close minded people always mention that one thing and don’t see what else he has done to clarify and fix that. We make mistakes. He has apologized and made so many videos but you people just want to be stuck on this. People are quick to watch his mistake but not quick to watch how many times he fixed/apologized and rectified it. He has spoken against it.
@@mumuzeze can you please share the videos where he apologized and rectified for his stance
For the millionth time. Both him and Qadhi have belabored the point and clearly stated the Islamic principles...PUBLICLY....MANY TIMES.
It's amazing how till this day and age people are unable or unwilling to use a search bar, or have husn al thann of their fellow Muslim.
@@mumuzeze why i read your comment with mad intonation 😂😂 don't get me wrong.
Peace
@@mumuzezemuslim skeptic has been bombarded both of them in his videos
MMMLF!!! IYKYK
The best books are classics. Fairy tales of Hans Christian Anderson and Grimms, Aesop's fables, things like Peter Rabbit or Roald Dahl books. Any of this new stuff is trash. Not even good English.
Subhan 'Allah how right you both brothers are Alhumdulilah ♥️
Then you have brother Omar sulirmam and Yasir qadhi who sporting LGBT or were if they have repented and asked for forgiveness from Allah Swt
It's against LGBT in Islam, Christianity and the Jewish religion
It shouldn't be taught to the children full stop
Once again a excellent video
Mahshaallah tabarak Allah Swt ☝️♥️
Salaam from UK ♥️
Stop jibby jabbying. Where is your proof that Omar Suleiman and Yasir Qadhi supported LGBT?
@Mikaeel Saracen because yq literally said the more rights they have, the more rights we have which is false btw
eşcinsellere biraz saygı duyulsun hani islam hoşgörü diniydi.
So when Islam will start respecting same sex marriage?
Shadee makes no sense , he goes from being a pro liberal religious reformer to a traditionalist ..guess like most insincere preachersvits all about the numbers
I like shadee except for defending the mawlid part, and from what ive been told by his admirers, anti salafi
Muslim skeptic will sort yall out worry not
what they are saying is in line with muslim skeptic.... Did you even watch the vid?
Almasri ya habibi is a loyal yaqeen soldier that wrote plenty of LGTV-supporting nonsense
and refused to withdraw controversial content in his articles ..and this is on record in Mo Hijab's interview with him and deviant JO brown
@@7625e watch DH in 15 minutes buddy
Man really got scared over subtly gay penguins 🤦