Bayless, I think the main problem some people are having with women in ministry is women being pastors, women feeling they need the title of Pastor. I have a problem with that, too, but only that specifically.
God calls everyone into ministry. Just everyone thinks that being a pastor is the only ministry and that's the problem. You will not get rewarded if you unlawfully do a ministry But if you are put by God to sweep the floors in church and you do that job well. Then you will get a reward from God. I would rather be a janitor in God's will than a king outside of it. That being said it is outside of God's will for a woman to be a pastor and teach the church thru sermons. It doesn't make them worse. God just has different jobs for different genders.
@melaniemartin730 your question doesn't make sense to me? Why does God call women into ministry? If so then I think the answer is because being a pastor is not the only thing considered ministry, being a mother is already a ministry if you are doing it correctly.
@@ichernichenko Since a woman could be a pastor in the Old Covenant, a woman can be a pastor in the New Covenant. Simple really. I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God. In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation Full read time: 12 minutes, free
@user-iz8np3vv4i I'm sorry, but the jump you make from prophetess to pastor is really long and unsubstantiated, God uses men and women to prophesy as written in acts 2:17. But in the New Testament, we have specific instructions for women not to teach the church. Women can prophesy but not preach or teach the church. Also, just because something was allowed in the Old Testament doesn't mean it's okay in the new. Especially when there are specific instructions. We are ministers of the New Testament not the old.
@@ichernichenko you wrote: We are ministers of the New Testament not the old. But this isn't a 'Covenant matter'. (In case the reader in unaware, the word pastor and the word shepherd are the same word. I prefer shepherd, because it has obvious meaning to the average person.) Major modern English translations like the NASB use the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people... In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’ -excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation Some believe that pastor (or shepherd), is a position that was created in the New Covenant. This is not true. In the Old Testament shepherds are mentioned multiple times. Often in a negative way. “My people have become lost sheep; Their shepherds have led them astray. -excerpt Jeremiah 50 For an entire chapter on worthless shepherds, the reader may check out Ezekiel 34. When the shepherd over Israel died, the people went back into sin. That is because the Judge was the most important spiritual leader of this time period. But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways. -excerpt Judges 2 Deborah, full essay read time: 12 minutes, free, postable Jesus approved of a woman to be a Judge over Israel in the Old Covenant, with the authority to judge homicide cases. To believe that Jesus would strongly disapprove of a woman being an elder in the New Covenant, makes no sense whatsoever. This is all Paul. Paul gave himself the title of 'father', since he couldn't meet the qualifications of elder that he himself put forward. For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers... -excerpt 1 Corinthians 4 KJV -words of Paul If one supports the qualifications of elder, as put forward by Paul, one MUST also accept that the title/position of 'father' is valid and proper in Christianity. Since this is also one of Paul's teachings. But the title of 'father' was expressly forbidden by Jesus. And do not call anyone on earth your father; for only One is your Father, He who is in heaven. -excerpt Matthew 23 -words of Jesus A full post on this is available. Be careful of the teachings of Paul.
A very timely teaching for this mother's day, and beyond...period!💮🌻💮🌻💮🌻
I do believe this .
Amen
I believe God calls women in different things when men aren't listening! 🙏
Bayless, I think the main problem some people are having with women in ministry is women being pastors, women feeling they need the title of Pastor. I have a problem with that, too, but only that specifically.
God calls everyone into ministry. Just everyone thinks that being a pastor is the only ministry and that's the problem.
You will not get rewarded if you unlawfully do a ministry
But if you are put by God to sweep the floors in church and you do that job well. Then you will get a reward from God.
I would rather be a janitor in God's will than a king outside of it.
That being said it is outside of God's will for a woman to be a pastor and teach the church thru sermons. It doesn't make them worse. God just has different jobs for different genders.
Why women in ministry!🤯🤯🤯
@melaniemartin730 your question doesn't make sense to me? Why does God call women into ministry? If so then I think the answer is because being a pastor is not the only thing considered ministry, being a mother is already a ministry if you are doing it correctly.
@@ichernichenko
Since a woman could be a pastor in the Old Covenant, a woman
can be a pastor in the New Covenant. Simple really.
I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God.
In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation
Full read time: 12 minutes, free
@user-iz8np3vv4i I'm sorry, but the jump you make from prophetess to pastor is really long and unsubstantiated, God uses men and women to prophesy as written in acts 2:17.
But in the New Testament, we have specific instructions for women not to teach the church. Women can prophesy but not preach or teach the church.
Also, just because something was allowed in the Old Testament doesn't mean it's okay in the new. Especially when there are specific instructions. We are ministers of the New Testament not the old.
@@ichernichenko
you wrote:
We are ministers of the New Testament not the old.
But this isn't a 'Covenant matter'.
(In case the reader in unaware, the word pastor and the word
shepherd are the same word. I prefer shepherd, because it has
obvious meaning to the average person.)
Major modern English translations like the NASB use
the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people...
In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation
Some believe that pastor (or shepherd), is a position that
was created in the New Covenant. This is not true. In the Old Testament
shepherds are mentioned multiple times. Often in a negative way.
“My people have become lost sheep;
Their shepherds have led them astray.
-excerpt Jeremiah 50
For an entire chapter on worthless shepherds, the reader may
check out Ezekiel 34.
When the shepherd over Israel died, the people went back into sin. That is because the Judge was the most important spiritual leader of this time period.
But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways.
-excerpt Judges 2
Deborah, full essay read time: 12 minutes, free, postable
Jesus approved of a woman to be a Judge over Israel in the Old Covenant,
with the authority to judge homicide cases. To believe that Jesus would
strongly disapprove of a woman being an elder in the New Covenant,
makes no sense whatsoever. This is all Paul.
Paul gave himself the title of 'father', since he couldn't meet the qualifications
of elder that he himself put forward.
For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers...
-excerpt 1 Corinthians 4 KJV
-words of Paul
If one supports the qualifications of elder, as put forward by Paul, one
MUST also accept that the title/position of 'father' is valid and proper in
Christianity. Since this is also one of Paul's teachings.
But the title of 'father' was expressly forbidden by Jesus.
And do not call anyone on earth your father; for only One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
-excerpt Matthew 23
-words of Jesus
A full post on this is available. Be careful of the teachings of Paul.