Cutera Excel V laser (KTP) 3 hours post-treatment | Rosacea
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- A few hours ago I had a Cutera Excel V (KTP, 532nm) full face treatment for redness and flushing following damage from Mirvaso gel in 2017 and Vbeam damage in 2019. Here's what I think to the treatment. You can see the redness created by this latest laser treatment, which I hope heals and fades over the next few days, leaving normal skin. One ting I found off putting about the whole experience is the persistent hard cross-selling of complimentary topical products.
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You face looks so much better than the first vid of you. I’m so thankful to see you better. For me, I don’t think I can risk myself getting a laser and pass the hard times. I don’t think I’m mentally ready
I hope you are well! Thank you for the interesting videos. Maybe one day you will feel up to updating your progress again 😇
How are you now? Wish you the best!
Hello, it's been three months since the making of this video. I'm curious, how does your skin look now? are you happy with the overall results of Vbeam? I have an appointment soon and really hope it'll get rid of some redness.
Darren, your face looks far better than when I first followed you! I had a failed KTP/Nd yag on my skin. It makes me flush bad now in places I didn’t before. I’m opting for Botox next from a doctor in NY who specializes in micro Botox for flushing
The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem
The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem
The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem
The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem
The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem
Hi Darren, Would love to see /know if you have any updates re: Excel V laser
Darren can you share please how was tune KTP laser. I mean J/cm2, pulse time...
Hey how are you? How is everything now? Please update us on your progress !
Please give us an update, there’s so little videos and follow up videos on this topic you were very good at showing your journey
To be honest, I got sick and tired of documenting the process as it wasn’t working. My first couple of treatments were ok and looked promising but then things got worse and no treatments were working.
I started Vbeam again recently after not being able to find a clinic that does it for a long time. I have to travel a long way to the clinic I go to now and I’m still not sure if it’s helping
@@recoveringfromredness9343Any update?
Any updates? Also I share your frustration with bad clinics, went to one today and it was totally a "I know more than you, I just need your laser" type of feeling - they also tried to push products on me, even though I said I've had this for 6 years (a reddish "scar") and no products help anything permanently.
After each treatment of vbeam pdl ..how many days downtime u had each time to get same skin color as before the treatment
Darren, how's progress?
Would you recommend IPL over Vbeam?
Hello Daren, I had exactly the same experience :
- mirvaso damage in late 2016 with rebound
- purpuric laser treatment in mid 2017 that increased the number of visible blood vessels, I experienced fat loss under my eyes after this operation, with patchy red patterns on my skin
- vbeam perfecta non purpuric operation in mid 2018 that produced even more blood vessels
To sum up, all these things worsened my situation and my skin is really damaged from mirvaso/lasers
Hey! How are you doing today ? What has / hasn’t helped ?
I am experiencing the same symptoms ... So you go for a procedure that costs an absolute fortune & here i am watching my face flush & look sunburnt one month after my 3rd treatment ... Also i have noticed that i have demarcation marks of uneven skin tone ... they look like blotchy little maps where the edges are red ... No one tells you this any of this before you head on in thinking all its going to do it help my uneven skin tone / flushing which has made it far worse ... nightmare
It’s absolutely infuriating isn’t it? I can manage the symptoms, but doing so is hard work and it feels like I’m micromanaging every aspect of my life just to stop from flushing.
I’ve tried to explain these things to people who know me but they either don’t care or think I’m making it up because “you look fine”. I often use tinted sunscreens to hide the redness as well as taking medications to prevent flushing. The damage is very real and for me it all started with Mirvaso.
If it hadn’t been for Mirvaso I might have been able to have laser in a more proactive way instead of using it to try and I do rebound redness
@@recoveringfromredness9343Hi, would it be possible to contact you privately to ask you some questions about the ktp laser and the situation you had with rosacea? cause i suffer from the same thing and since i'm trying to decide what laser i should get i would like a suggestion about someone who had some experience with it, plus it's good to confront someone who have a severe misunderstood "disease" like this.
Darren, I’m experiencing major rebound from Rhofade, do you have social media like Instagram or Facebook or an email?
Need lasers my skins always rashy red sensitive super dry since accutane
Hi. How are you doing now??
Update on the excel v? I'm a flusher too
Are you going to dermatologists or laser clinics?
May I suggest you take a look at Dr Nathan Holt, at the Cambridge laser clinic. He’s completed something like 100,000 treatments and been specialising in laser nearly 20 years. I’ve had my first PDL and his approach is quite different from the mainstream approach of purpuric focussed treatments. He doesn’t charge for a consult - and in general his pricing is the most reasonable I’ve seen.
Where is this doctor?
Different meaning he doesn’t go for the purpuric setting ? Or does he
I saw his website recently, so I’m curious.
I assume he’s using the Prima? How many passes is he using? He’ll be using two different pulse width settings, which is what Dr Maddan in Manchester has been doing for me.
Take notes and ask questions when you’re in the clinic
@@recoveringfromredness9343hello did you get any results from this time round? I heard you get better/faster results with bruising?
@@recoveringfromredness9343did you get any results with this doctor and primary care?
Dear Darren, may I ask how many clinics/dermatologists you have consulted? - As for me (I have Rosacea with pustules and teleangactasias (probably incorrectly spelled-> sorry about my „Genglish“) it took me more than 10 -15 dermatologists and years to find the right one/ones ...). Maybe it could help you to get another dermatologist‘s view whether KTP/V-beam is generally the Right treatment for your flushing-. that would at least be my approach in your Situation. And that is also what I regularly do when I am unsatisfied with the current treatment or when I have doubts about the prescription. - Hope you will be better soon!
I’ve been to lots of clinics. It’s painful trying to find someone who actually knows what they’re doing as opposed to someone who boasts and markets theirselves in a certain way.
I’ve been to 8 clinics so far and had treatments at 7. Still trying to get relief from this and I’m increasingly sick and tired of people lecturing me about what is or isn’t wrong with me, whether it’s these “professionals” or even relatives who think I’m exaggerating.
Dear Darren, im from germany and I have tried Mirvaso, too. I have used it for 4 days on my nose only. Afer this 4 days I recognized the baseline redness was really worse than before. How do you feel today? Would you say you have reaced the baseline again or even better? Can you please give a list as summary of what you did for recovering from redness? Thank you in advance :-)
Hello. First, I’m sorry that you were prescribed Mirvaso. I have never recovered properly from the rebounds I experienced and the worsened baseline redness.
I used and still use propranolol to help reduce flushing but not as often I used to. Azelaic acid and Vitamin C products may be helping me.
I’m in the process of getting more Vbeam which includes treatments on my ears, which always had the worse redness and rebound with a lot of pain too.
Hi what treatment do you recommend for roascea? you have a lot of experience. I’m very nervous to get laser. My roascea is mild and I don’t want it to get worse.
You could start with Azelaic acid and then introduce a diluted ascorbic acid (Vit C) slowly. That might do the trick. Take it slow, do research, and don’t be fooled into spending a fortune on products my people working at clinics pushing fad solutions.
The Ordinary is a good place to start for skincare.
Sir apki redness completely finish hui
I have two questions for you
1- is mirvaso rebound completely gone now ???
2- does sun still causes your skin to burn ??
1- no, not completely. My right ear often burns and flushes red. This is normally in a room that is artificially heated, especially in winter here in the UK
2- the sun has never been an issue for me, and I wear high SPF
Are you against using oils? If not, look into Tamanu oil. It’s natural, cheap, and works pretty well for my flushing rosacea compared to everything else I’ve tried.
Did you get compensation for the pulse dye laser...
Nah. I have not even pursued a complaint. When you have these treatments, you are normally ask to sign something waiving any liability claims. Besides, I think it was a nasty reaction to a topical product well after the PDL in Nov 2019 that caused the setback.
Hi Darren!How many treatments you did with vbeam for these results?
3 full face treatments, 1 on the nose.
The third treatment of Vbeam made things worse, and I’ve started up Vbeam again recently using gentler settings.
No difference at the moment but I’m just recovering from treatment number 2 (it’s been 4 weeks) with another treatment in about 2 weeks.
@@recoveringfromredness9343do you know why the 3rd treatment made things worse? Did your doctor explain it? Btw your skin looks great, good on you 👍
Are laser treatments a waste of time or have you actually seen any improvement? I’ve got my I first ipl treatment this month in two minds wether it’s going to work or not I also have flushing from hoot rooms
I have seen improvement. My face used to be very unstable due to Mirvaso. I've had numerous lasers on my face and yet my ears still flush, which started happening because of Mirvaso. I've had no laser on my ears and yet they still do flush hot and red in hot rooms. or even in normally rooms if I've been out in freezing weather.
Evidentally, the laser seems to have helped my face quite a bit, even if the Nov 2019 PDL didn't heal right and was a setback.
I have read that mirvaso side effects lead to histamine accumulation in the skin. Maybe you can do something against the histamine in your skin to relieve the condition? I suffer from that problem too. I would be happy if you answer me
I have never heard of histamine accumulation in the skin, so if you could link me to your sources that would be great. I do eat bananas and avocados daily which are histamine containing, but which do not seem to cause any ill effects.
@@recoveringfromredness9343 link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00105-015-3735-5
It's German and a training reading for dermatologists.
Here you have to download the PDF for free and on page 76-77 under "Brimonidin" it is written under side effects that it can lead to local histamine accumulation. Exactly this was my theory before i even have read this article. What do you think about this? I have also information of an action to let the histamine in the cells vanish but i won't write it here because some people might overdo it and take it to seriously.
You can text me on PM if you want. I would like to discuss this theory
@@recoveringfromredness9343 hey you still there?
My ears do this too after mirvaso I honestly believe this has done deeper damage than just our blood vessels more like nerve damage, this is the route I’m going down as I’ve had several laser sessions post mirvaso which have all helped reduce redness but not the debilitating flushing and pain which I never had previously. It’s just awful that 3-4 years on we are still suffering the consequences of this disgusting product.
Yes! Mine too! Especially my right ear! I never applied Mirvaso to my ears, only to my face in the classic butterfly flushing pattern areas... and yet the effects of the medication must have had a kind of domino effect.
Kimberley, i had the exact same reaction to mirvaso. my facial flushing has become debilitating. What type of laser treatment did you get. my new dermatologist has tried several medications but i'm looking at laser and the type i should b looking at. what has helped you...ipl, pdl?
@@recoveringfromredness9343 which one is more effective PDL or KTP ?
By the way, I’ve been having Vbeam not only on my face but on my ears. This was a first for me and the derm who treats me suggested it when he witnessed me having a severe flush. He also knows all about Mirvaso and could see for himself what it was doing to the vasculature of my face and ears.
does this laser damage your beard follicles?
I don't think so
I can talk with you ???
I have a veins and redness on my cheeks so I am in tention plz suggest me what I do?
Wear sunscreen if out during daylight. Consider LED yellow light machine. I bought mine from Amazon. £85 with three LED panels that I lay under every day for one hour. It is worth a try. It might help with redness. For visible veins (telangiectasia) you may need laser.
@@recoveringfromredness9343 your redness completely finish?
@@recoveringfromredness9343 I had v beam laser 4th session but no improvement still I have redness
U could always wear a Mac powder and Mac foundation 😆 if I was a man I would , my brother wears it aswell if I didn't wear it I'd be self conscious 24/7 but I think your skin looks fine now I wouldn't clock you as being red just normal the laser worked for me but as soon as I stopped with the sunblock it came back but never as bad . X
Just to clarify - I'm a severe flusher when in hot rooms. My face gets scarlet when I get hot and the heat and pain is unbearable. Hoping this treatment lessens some of that.
I would avoid that clinic like covid.
It sounds like it uses aestheticians and maybe the occasional nurse. No doctors involved in the clinic.
This is how inexperienced staff cause burns and scarring, which cause life long suffering.
I have heard good things about dr nathan holt at Cambridge laser clinic , but that's a long journey for you.
Hope things get better.
Unfortunately there are dermatologists who are clueless as well, especially when it comes to cosmetic dermatology. I've literally had derms who know less than me about my specific problem. They know how to diagnose skin conditions and prescribe creams and pills but that's just about it.