An alarm can never be too loud, but more effective prevention comes from good sensors guarding the outer most perimeter (doors and windows/skylights) with Break glass and shock detection on their own alarm zones. I'd include a GSM digital auto-communicator, so you and/or the police can be notified of any potential perimeter intrusions, especially in remote locations. PS. 360 degree ceiling mounted Microwave and Doppler based detectors prove allot more accurate and less prone to false alarms in typically hotter environments than traditional PIR sensors.
The motion sensor is one of those 360 ones glass brake sensors and shock detectors kinda are something that I don’t trust for false alarms I do get notified if the system goes off but it does not call anyone else as that would also be issues with false alarms
@@nics-systems-electric Sensing technology has progressed a long way in recent times, better self diagnostics almost eliminates false alarms in the modern sensors I frequently install in commercial locations across Britain.
that's an awesome expansion. Ive been looking at ADT Safewatch pro 3000 with the Ademco panels with ADT Voicing on them. New in box kits for a decent price. I'd love to get one and hook it up one of these days.
Epic video, when you said it distorts your hearing, it’s not only you, cause it does that to pretty much everyone, it even does it to me. At least you will be able to clearly hear it when your security system goes off
Thanks No I don’t have any panic buttons or anything even the panic buttons on the keypad are disabled just because I don’t see the point when it doesn’t call anyone
Wire the access control to a key switch input on the alarm panel to unlock the door and disarm at the same time. Also is there a separate panel for the access control in that cupboard
The access control panel is underneath the fire alarm panel I don’t want the security system to disarm when access control is used as it’s less secure just because someone could steal a fob or clone one
Cool Video! My School has a Siemens Fire Alarm System. Whenever the Fire Alarm Sounds. They Turn on the Blue Strobes which Typically Indicate Lockdown. But they use them as Fire Too. Their is a Lockdown System Wired In Too. Cool Video!
Thanks That’s really weird to use the lock down strobes during fire alarm that doesn’t make any sense as it would just cause more confusion as to what each device represents that’s pretty sad that there Hass to be lockdown systems in schools
I wanted to let you know that many Fire Alarm Systems such as the Fire lite that you have installed. You would use a RED color Strobe and this would be a General Alarm to First Due Units. A General Alarm is considered Heat Detectors, Pull Stations, Smoke Detectors. Also there is a green color strobe that is used on systems that is a Waterflow alarm if you have a sprinkler or standpipe system. A Blue Strobe would only be for Security System to let the Police Offers know which structure is having the alarm. John
Interesting what country is that for because here in Canada fire alarm is just a white strobe and blue strobes are used on fire alarm systems to indicate Location of annunciator or which building is in alarm
Hello NIC, I also have a DSC Powerseries Neo and I would like to ask you what relay and power supply you used on your system to accomplish this. Any answers would gladly appreciated. Thanks
That would be a ton of work and money as I would have to extend all of the circuits including power plus add an annunciator for it to be proper as the fire alarm panel must have an annunciator if it’s not at the main entrance
Hi! My house has a dsc system what can power 3 sirens perfectly fine on 1 bell circuit. it’s not a neo it’s some power series. It might because my area uses outdoor sirens and I’m in Europe so it might be different but still I don’t get why you would get a relay but cool video nonetheless. Your videos are great. Keep up the good work
I had to get a relay because the security panel does not put enough power out to power both sirens so I have to power the separate siren off its own power supply and the relay is just triggering it to come on otherwise it would always be on
Loving the security system! I have a question for you. Is it okay to mount vibrating horns and bells on the same wall area or demo board as a fire alarm control panel? I've seen other people do that and I am doing that as well. Will the vibration from mechanical horns or bells damage the panel or any other electronic devices on the system? Because I've heard that vibration is bad for electronics and fire alarm control panels. Thanks for your help!
I would think a fire alarm panel should be able to handle vibrations as they are often mounted in electrical rooms where transformers will constantly vibrate the walls i’d say it would probably be fine
You should put the blue strobe outside above the emergency light and put the other siren in the house if you don’t have a security system in the house or expand the system to the house
I could put a strobe on the outside for sure definitely couldn’t put a siren in the house as the system gets armed every night and would be extremely loud inside the house I get a notification on my phone anyways if the system goes off so there would be no point of having it in the house
My systems aren’t connected together. The only purpose of that would be if the security system is monitoring the fire alarm system to report to the alarm company in that case, you would have zones from the security system, going into relays on the fire alarm panel for alarm supervisory trouble sometimes only alarm.
@@nics-systems-electric so for example, the notifier SFP-400B I acquired, it has outputs for alarm and trouble - they would normally connect to specified zones on the alarm system? No dedicated inputs for alarm and trouble?
@@justinhill8102 by outputs do you mean relays? You don’t want something that’s putting out power to go to the security system. You just want the zones from the security system to go onto the relays and then you have to program the zones in the security system for what you’re using them for
you definitely don't want normalized audio (microphone loudness compensation) when doing loud system tests, as each time it sounded like the video was losing audio (at least to me)
@@nics-systems-electric interesting, I also have one of those cabinets branded by von Duprin though and I have my Wiegand access control sh*t in there.
@@nics-systems-electric what about getting some more devices for the system? You still didnt find a cabinet for the 320C either. Theres like alot of devices you can add to it, even with the MS-9200UDLS. Demo Duct Detector, Annunciators, Beam Detectors, etc. Like if you have the money to get it, I reccommend you buy some devices,
I may add more to the 320 C but 9200 system isn’t demonstration and isn’t something that I want to mess with more than just adding necessary things and monthly tests
@@nics-systems-electric it’s not simplex that makes them, but they both are owned by Tyco/JCI. And I would say that simplex isn’t crap, but they don’t necessarily put the correct people in charge of programming their panels.
@@maxdutiel Maybe their security system stuff is better but as far as fire alarm they are a terrible company that rips off so many people with unreliable products and charging way too much for proprietary service and there are some incidents I’ve heard with people that have worked directly with people from Simplex that I can’t say but they’ve done some very shady stuff
The security strobe you could've also used is a System Sensor SWL or SCWL L-Series with a Blue strobe
An alarm can never be too loud, but more effective prevention comes from good sensors guarding the outer most perimeter (doors and windows/skylights) with Break glass and shock detection on their own alarm zones. I'd include a GSM digital auto-communicator, so you and/or the police can be notified of any potential perimeter intrusions, especially in remote locations. PS. 360 degree ceiling mounted Microwave and Doppler based detectors prove allot more accurate and less prone to false alarms in typically hotter environments than traditional PIR sensors.
The motion sensor is one of those 360 ones glass brake sensors and shock detectors kinda are something that I don’t trust for false alarms I do get notified if the system goes off but it does not call anyone else as that would also be issues with false alarms
@@nics-systems-electric Sensing technology has progressed a long way in recent times, better self diagnostics almost eliminates false alarms in the modern sensors I frequently install in commercial locations across Britain.
Cool expansion. You always have cool system expansion ideas!
Thanks
Love the humor and the content been subscribed for 3 years to your channel keep the videos cuz there awesome
Thank you I’m glad you enjoy
Very nice. Great expansions.
Best alarm videos!
that's an awesome expansion. Ive been looking at ADT Safewatch pro 3000 with the Ademco panels with ADT Voicing on them. New in box kits for a decent price. I'd love to get one and hook it up one of these days.
Nice video very interesting keep up the work
Thank you
Keep up the good work man!
Thanks
Epic video, when you said it distorts your hearing, it’s not only you, cause it does that to pretty much everyone, it even does it to me. At least you will be able to clearly hear it when your security system goes off
It probably has something to do with the harmonics.
love this expansion! have you thought about adding one of those blue pull stations into the security system? great video!
Thanks No I don’t have any panic buttons or anything even the panic buttons on the keypad are disabled just because I don’t see the point when it doesn’t call anyone
@@nics-systems-electric yeah it doesn’t make sense to have it if it doesn’t actually call for help I just think they look neat
@@theblueexitsign8249 They do look cool
Wire the access control to a key switch input on the alarm panel to unlock the door and disarm at the same time. Also is there a separate panel for the access control in that cupboard
The access control panel is underneath the fire alarm panel I don’t want the security system to disarm when access control is used as it’s less secure just because someone could steal a fob or clone one
Great!
I don't think a robber would make it far at all in your shed. good work!
Hopefully not
Cool Video! My School has a Siemens Fire Alarm System. Whenever the Fire Alarm Sounds. They Turn on the Blue Strobes which Typically Indicate Lockdown. But they use them as Fire Too. Their is a Lockdown System Wired In Too. Cool Video!
Thanks That’s really weird to use the lock down strobes during fire alarm that doesn’t make any sense as it would just cause more confusion as to what each device represents that’s pretty sad that there Hass to be lockdown systems in schools
@@nics-systems-electric Yeah, do you schools have lock down alarms?
you should get a tornado siren, like a vixen horns or something like that
I love ur vids and you are funny on ur fa tests and ur cute dog
how did you wire the relay??
I love when you said ITS TOO FAT
I wanted to let you know that many Fire Alarm Systems such as the Fire lite that you have installed. You would use a RED color Strobe and this would be a General Alarm to First Due Units. A General Alarm is considered Heat Detectors, Pull Stations, Smoke Detectors. Also there is a green color strobe that is used on systems that is a Waterflow alarm if you have a sprinkler or standpipe system. A Blue Strobe would only be for Security System to let the Police Offers know which structure is having the alarm. John
Interesting what country is that for because here in Canada fire alarm is just a white strobe and blue strobes are used on fire alarm systems to indicate Location of annunciator or which building is in alarm
cool video and have more videos to come and tell your friends dont pull the fire alarms the school get a fiend for each time the fire alarm goes off
Thanks. I don’t care what my friends do if they pull the fire alarm or not I’m not gonna be that guy to tell people what to do
Alarm and also strobe light can add to any alrm system
Hello NIC, I also have a DSC Powerseries Neo and I would like to ask you what relay and power supply you used on your system to accomplish this. Any answers would gladly appreciated. Thanks
Power supply is a Schlag door controller power supply 12 V DC. And 12 V DC relay
You should move the fire alarm panel into the closet
That would be a ton of work and money as I would have to extend all of the circuits including power plus add an annunciator for it to be proper as the fire alarm panel must have an annunciator if it’s not at the main entrance
Hi! My house has a dsc system what can power 3 sirens perfectly fine on 1 bell circuit. it’s not a neo it’s some power series. It might because my area uses outdoor sirens and I’m in Europe so it might be different but still I don’t get why you would get a relay but cool video nonetheless. Your videos are great. Keep up the good work
I had to get a relay because the security panel does not put enough power out to power both sirens so I have to power the separate siren off its own power supply and the relay is just triggering it to come on otherwise it would always be on
Loving the security system! I have a question for you. Is it okay to mount vibrating horns and bells on the same wall area or demo board as a fire alarm control panel? I've seen other people do that and I am doing that as well. Will the vibration from mechanical horns or bells damage the panel or any other electronic devices on the system? Because I've heard that vibration is bad for electronics and fire alarm control panels. Thanks for your help!
I would think a fire alarm panel should be able to handle vibrations as they are often mounted in electrical rooms where transformers will constantly vibrate the walls i’d say it would probably be fine
@@nics-systems-electric great point! Also the alarm panels Transformer vibrates and it's right next to the control board. Thank you for your help!
You should put the blue strobe outside above the emergency light and put the other siren in the house if you don’t have a security system in the house or expand the system to the house
I could put a strobe on the outside for sure definitely couldn’t put a siren in the house as the system gets armed every night and would be extremely loud inside the house I get a notification on my phone anyways if the system goes off so there would be no point of having it in the house
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how does the fire alarm tie into the security system? do the trouble and alarm circuits wire into a zone or are there dedicated inputs?
My systems aren’t connected together. The only purpose of that would be if the security system is monitoring the fire alarm system to report to the alarm company in that case, you would have zones from the security system, going into relays on the fire alarm panel for alarm supervisory trouble sometimes only alarm.
@@nics-systems-electric so for example, the notifier SFP-400B I acquired, it has outputs for alarm and trouble - they would normally connect to specified zones on the alarm system? No dedicated inputs for alarm and trouble?
@@justinhill8102 by outputs do you mean relays? You don’t want something that’s putting out power to go to the security system. You just want the zones from the security system to go onto the relays and then you have to program the zones in the security system for what you’re using them for
@@nics-systems-electric they are indeed labelled as relays within the panels manual. They each have 3 terminals - NO, NC, and C
sounds like my siren is it a elk siren?
can you drop the link to the power supply?
I don’t have a link for it
If you want something loud then try the moose mpi 30 speaker with the Moose mpi11 siren driver. lol now thats loud.
yes
Nice! Thanks for accepting my video request are others
Sorry what?
@@nics-systems-electric people who requested this video
@@iashbanen5320 I don’t think anyone did
@@nics-systems-electric btw what’s the security system name
@@iashbanen5320 DSC
you definitely don't want normalized audio (microphone loudness compensation) when doing loud system tests, as each time it sounded like the video was losing audio (at least to me)
Also you need a separate card in the cabinet that is a charger for the batts
That’s stupid you would think it would come with it doesn’t need back up that bad
@@nics-systems-electric the only reason its optional is because if a building has a giant generator then the battery part would be useless.
@@vrryan6 We still use it in the schools that have generator as it’s not instant
@@nics-systems-electric interesting, I also have one of those cabinets branded by von Duprin though and I have my Wiegand access control sh*t in there.
@@vrryan6 I don’t find wiegand 13.56mhz all that bad I would like to be using Salto though
Nice expansion nic, is it possible to get more videos with your Notifier NFS-320C?
Could someday I just haven’t as i haven’t done anything to the system
@@nics-systems-electric what about getting some more devices for the system? You still didnt find a cabinet for the 320C either. Theres like alot of devices you can add to it, even with the MS-9200UDLS. Demo Duct Detector, Annunciators, Beam Detectors, etc. Like if you have the money to get it, I reccommend you buy some devices,
Also you could possibly add a CO Detector to the 320C.
@@lightningking1552 no they’re really expensive it’s only a demonstration system spends 99% of the time turned off
I may add more to the 320 C but 9200 system isn’t demonstration and isn’t something that I want to mess with more than just adding necessary things and monthly tests
12:31,thats a good idea, it would reflect the sound and throw it everywhere. also what was that sound at 14:13?
My friend was the sound
@@nics-systems-electric oh
Australian systems r 2 amp alarm
Can you introduce us to your friend in a future video?
Just my neighbour that is in the durability testing videos
Why is DSC so common in Canada, yet simplex isn’t. Both are owned by JCI.
I didn’t know Simplex made security systems there was lots of silent knight systems too probably because Simplex is crap
@@nics-systems-electric it’s not simplex that makes them, but they both are owned by Tyco/JCI. And I would say that simplex isn’t crap, but they don’t necessarily put the correct people in charge of programming their panels.
@@maxdutiel Maybe their security system stuff is better but as far as fire alarm they are a terrible company that rips off so many people with unreliable products and charging way too much for proprietary service and there are some incidents I’ve heard with people that have worked directly with people from Simplex that I can’t say but they’ve done some very shady stuff
JCI doesn’t own DSC, Tyco does, Tyco and JCI are completely separate companies
i thought that was a cb under ythe desk
police siren
You have a spot to play n work. Like I do then
put one outside
Maybe a strobe but the siren is already so loud even from outside there’s really no reason for it to need to be any louder
14:12 Who said no? Lol
My friend
ITS TO FAT!!!!
And have networx nx4