Access Your Movie Library Faster? R_volution 4K Media Player
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- Access Your Movie Library Faster? R_volution 4K Media Player
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Ok. So it’s basically the same crap that we have now in the Zappiti Reference. Thanks for showing us that confirmation.
That looks like a great movie server. Luckily, I don't need to buy one because I still only have a handful of movies on disk. Besides getting off the couch to change the disk helps keep me awake.😅
Glad to see the Zapitti staff made moves to catch up to the speed and display of their new player (under a new flag) compared to the others on the market such as Zidoo and Dune.
I have a Zapitti 4k PRO sitting in storage now (soon to be a brick). The Zidoo 2000 Pro I now use is way faster and responsive in every way. It appears this new R_volution player matches it in speed. Unfortunately it is late to market and does not have any unique features that I would consider switching.
I'm moving to Zidoo. I was a Zappiti since the beginning but now that's enough. Zappiti or R_volution never again.
Where, specifically, is the artwork stored? Say we opt not to use the internal drive as it is too loud. If our library is on the network, where does it physically store the files?
Stores files on a external hdd or NAS
@@MusicMovies67So in the source folder, like the Zidoo does?
I was not able to locate where exactly the files are stored locally (either on local hard drive or within the player itself.
@@YouthmanThank you for making this video Michael!
You are welcome
It's not my logic it's the law here in Europe. If, for instance, a smart TV don't have a software problem and can't be connected to the internet is not working 100% according to the product announced. So, or they fix it, or they have to replace it because the software and the hardware were sold together and can't be seen as two different products.
This really feels like an outdated device. Very very slow. For that price it should have a 1TB nvme as a cache which would give you instant results. That and the loading of a movie is unbearable.
I’m not aware of any media player on the market with 1TB. Here is Dune’s $1,500 flagship player - www.dune-hd.com/collections/frontpage/products/dune-hd-ultra-vision-4k#specifications
@@Youthman The point is a $35 nvme drive installed by the company would solve the issues, but they are too cheap. Even a 512GB would be plenty. There's several alternatives that do a much better job at the same price.
There’s probably a combination of things that affects the loading speeds.
It is Android based which doesn’t help much. I’m sure it would be a lot snappier if it ran off of its own firmware.
Since a few months I switched from my Zappiti Mini 4k HDR to my Formuler Z10PRO MAX. Am running the latest version of KODI on it. This goes way faster than every other expensive media player I've seen. The Z10PRO MAX is only about €180,- it's got 32GB of RAM, 1Gbps LAN connection etc. I compared the picture quality with the Zappiti and my Panasonic DP-UB824 UHD player and there's almost no difference! I've seen Formuler already released the Z11 version which is even better and still cheap. Kodi ain't that difficult to configure as many people think. And yes the Formuler also supports HDR (maybe DV aswell haven't tested), Dolby Atmos, DTS:X. And not like the Apple TV 4K the compressed versions of Dolby etc.
@youthman the link it order in the description for the R_volution Player is actually to Mwave sales page for the show and not to the player itself.
Hi Jamie, my business partner for MWAVE is Ryan Charpentier with Ascend AV. He ordered several R_volution units, which is why the link is to MWAVE Sales.
Thanks for the video. Scrolling is better than my Zappiti Neo. Zidoo boot time into movies and poster art is a lot faster still. I am kinda happy this mess happened. Otherwise I don't think I would have given Zidoo a shot. The Zidoo will automatically group those clips under the same poster and when you click on it then give you the option of which clip to select. Kinda like a collection/saga for that single title. Works great for movies Like Lord of the Rings where I have Theatrical Cut, Extended Cut disc 1 and Extended Cut disc 2. Or some of my foreign films that have international cut, US cut, director's cut, etc.
Mike, Of course... No Surprise. It's the same code, different graphics and layout...
Appreciate the review without being an advertisement, as usual. Thanks Michael.
Thanks Michael. I do my best to give folks enough information that they can determine whether or not a product is a good fit for them.
DEAR FRIEND, ALL MY DIGITAL MOVIES ARE ON AN 18TB EXTERNAL HD, HOW DO I SWITCH TO THE PLAYER'S INTERNAL HD ? GREETINGS FROM PORTUGAL
The R_volution does not have internal storage. You would need to add an internal hard drive to the unit before you can select it.
Sample story just copied from European Website for "Guarantees, cancelling and returning your purchases":
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Thanks for all your coverage Michael! Definitely don't mind waiting for some software updates before I make the final decision on a dedicated media player.
Glad you’re finding the videos helpful. My goal is always to provide consumers with enough information that they can make a decision on whether or not a product is a good fit for their needs and budget.
There should be a setting in the setup/preferences where it tell you where you artwork matadata is stored. Similar where Zidoo has settings that point to the internal storage of the unit itself, internal cache/storage ssd drive, not your internal movie HDD. You may have to go into setup to find out where this info is being stored. Good Video.
Thanks Paul. I did not see anything in the setup menu that states the exact location of where they store the media files.
Looking on my hard drive, there is a folder called .R_evolution, and only has an info.dat file. I may be incorrect, they may store it internally on the player itself, rather than your actual hard drives.
Does R_volution have it where we can connect our Blu-Ray drives so that way we can transfer the files over to the PlayerOne without having to use our Windows, Mac, or Linux PCs?
No, that is what their Nas does but it’s not available in the US due to our laws
Does it have a pre show demo option like Zappiti’s latest offering. How does the picture quality come to the Zappiti. Is it 3D compatible.
Hi. Great review as usual. Technically, the movie covers are not stored in the hard drive but in the internal NAN Flash Memory. So it load relatively quickly. When you scroll to all the movies, the covers are stored in the cache memory to be displayed instantly.
Thank you for the correction. I’m not certain they have been moved from the server to the flash memory yet (which may explain why it’s not loading as fast).
Great work. I am wondering if you could test boot times for movie playback? In your original review you loaded a film which was very slow, could could you try this again loading the same film several times to see if it is consistently slow?
Good morning sir, hope all is well. Been looking at the Zidoo Z2600 (Realtek 1619BDP) latest chipset that supports (AV1). The R_volution (Realtek 1619DR) chipset. Do you know if in fact it supports AV1 as well. I can’t find any info. Nice review on the R_volution by the way. Please input when you get a chance. Thanks. Darsan
Very interesting. Zidoo Z9X Pro seems way way faster.
yes it definitely is faster. got same model , when scrolling down I don't have to wait for posters to load and much faster boot up speed.
Is this a device like the Brennan where you rip all your movies that are on dvd and blue ray to a SSD or HDD so you can play them from the device rather than put a physical dvd or blue ray in the dvd or blue ray player.i would like a Brennan to store all my CDs on so can play them from the device without having to get a physical cd out but there expensive
That is correct. This plays audio and video files from a hard drive.
Hi Michael,i was just wondering if R-Vidieo displays the aspect ratio of the movie so you can set the zoom memory of a JVC projector,before you hit play.
I don’t recall seeing that metadata. Definitely be nice. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve looked around on the box of a 4K desk to see what aspect ratio it’s in. Lol.
Hi Michael, how did you make the clips from the concert?
Just get a Zidoo or a Dune.
Just get a Kaleidescape. 😀
@@YouthmanI don't think your entire viewer base lives in the states...Kaleidescape is extremely limited in that regard.
One thing is sourcing the hardware, another thing is to ensure a stabile connection to the US (VPN) from whatever country you might reside in.
Apologies for being a bit negative about your comment, but the truth is that Kaleidescape outside the US just isn't a viable option unless you go dedicated selfhosted router software with a VPN subscription in the hopes of actually being able to download data from the Kaleidescape services. That service could be banned at any given moment, risking your big time investment.
ok. that not that bad. its snappier then the zappiti app was, so i think thats ok.
Hi Michael, I couldn’t find the specific spec if the unit can play M2TS blu ray file? All my ripped movies are in that format?
@taivo5753 It does support M2TS files along with all kinds of formats. It plays everything that you can throw at it.
@@David25522 Thank you David. That sounds great. I appreciate the info. 👍🏼
Is there a release date set for the app that's compatible with the Zappiti?
They said they’re shooting for sometime in November
Could you possibly do a review on the Zappitis interface when the new app comes out for it ? Im not sure if you still have a Zappiti ? But if you do i would love to see if the new App will make the Zappiti any quicker regarding User Interface / posterwall & if the Medidata is also stored on the Zappiti as its now done with the R_Volution Media Player.
The unit has already been shipped back to Zappiti.
@@Youthman ok, no worries 👍 A good point was raised regarding Poster Art in the Video App, im also wondering if you disconnect your internet then Restart you R_Volution player will the poster wall & its Medidata still come up ? Maybe go in depth for people wanting a true offline mode once there collection is established & saved with this new Player.
That's what everybody should do. Ship back the Zappiti units and get the money back, at least if they are within the warranty time@@Youthman
Warranty’s are used to repair products that are broken or not working properly. Not to return products.
Sorry to disagree but at least here in Europe if you can't fix the product you are forced to accept it and return the money back to the client within the warranty time. Of course it has to be seen case by case. For example you can't return a car just because you had a flat tire and they can't get you one equal to the original. But for most of the electronic products with less then one year, if they can't repair it you have the right to return it back without justification and should be the sales company to prove that is working fine@@Youthman
Great video! Zidoo is just way faster...
Even if it's stored locally on a hard drive it's still mechanical and will have slow access times. there are a ton of files that need to be loaded individually it's going to take time no matter what. now if you loaded that center bay with an SSD performance might be significantly improved but that would only be the case if you could point the player to save the image cache to that drive versus the same location where your media is stored which is a feature I'd be curious if it has. But yeah the only way for it to be faster natively is if they were storing the images internally on the same place that stores its own software which is some sort of Flash memory but then you run into capacity issues with large libraries like I have with my shield. I guess the next logical question is will this work without an internet connection? like what happens if it can't connect to the server, will your database of movies still load?
If they precache the images into RAM in the background like you suggest while you are in the menu that would help it a lot to make it feel faster regardless of where the images are saved. The benefit of doing it via ssd/flash though is it would only have to do that once and you would get ram like performance all the time whereas if they cache it to ram on load it would have to do that every time we turn the player on. I'm also curious how many items it can cache before it starts over writing. I have close to 3000 titles.....i doubt it's going to be able to cache all my art at once...
@jjchmiel78 I own a Zappiti Neo as well. I am testing out the Zidoo Z2000 model. I feel the same way because I wouldn’t have tried out Zidoo myself. So far I’m liking what I’m seeing. The Zidoo is really snappy. The only concern is that it’s not recognizing all of my content. They don’t even show up at all in the unmatched section. I have to make up another phony title then go in and rematch them. None of these are Tv shows. Out of my 1,025 titles 812 of them show up. So far I’m not seeing 213 titles. I can see them obviously in file system. I have some work to do! The Zappiti does a much better job sweeping my collection I will say that.
There’s definitely no perfect solution.
@@YouthmanYeah there is it’s called the Kaleidescape.
lol$$$
For me Zidoo. No doubt.
Looks like the same old trash. Bin it and move on.
If you don’t like it, no one is making you buy it.