Yeah. He has a lot of forgiveness for the pedophile men who abuse their power. How much compassion or forgiveness does he show for the women in that cult? Arsehole.
very glad i took the time to watch all three parts, i feel alot of compassion for this man, his family, his community.....i find it very telling that this devout, eloquent, devoted father and preisthood head was somehow found so lacking by the powers that be in his church (Warren), i mean gee if this man is not good enough, who is? i pray he and his family find peace.......
As a former LDS, I fully understand following priesthood and a prophet to a degree that the religion becomes a life style. Fear of losing the eternal blessings of family is an emotionally crippling threat that makes you stay and refrain from questioning. To walk away takes a huge amount of courage as your religion gradually
@@LS-gp7xy I was LDS as well. It’s not that different. The core doctrines are the same. FLDS practices polygamy now. LDS believes it will be practiced in Heaven - each worthy priest will have 1,000 wives.
@@XjtBA The church doctrine states this, and people who have been in a long time know this. But it's not discussed with new converts to the church, or to youth. It's something you learn once you're way in, indoctrinated, afraid of leaving - it's your whole world. I was in that church for 17 years before hearing that polygamy in heaven is a core belief.
@@XjtBA So yes, the church doctrine states it and Elders believe it. But if you were to ask a typical Mormon if they believe it, they probably wouldn't. Because they don't know that the church doctrine states it. Hope that makes sense. Ignorance is bliss - the LDS church banks on this.
How did someone become so eloquent and level-headed after growing up in the FLDS? I am amazed and this is to his credit. This was a great interview! His family should be very proud of him... there is hope for the FLDS.
I can’t imagine feeling great pressure to provide for and feed 15 to 25 to 30 people! To much abuse and neglect is involved in this sect. A man can’t give his 20 or more children all the love, attention,and guidance they need let alone the monetary and education they will need for a successful life!
i have to applaud him, he did grow up inside this... thing, whatever. He did never know anything else in his life. But the bonds to his family just are stronger than the bonds to the belief-system he did grow up in. Thats a strong moral compass, if you have been raised up and teached a DIFFERENT belief all your life, but when it REALLY gets rough you decide to not leave wife + children because its just the right thing to do, thats real strength. Especially if your own dad pushes hard.
What he said in this interview that he didn't leave his home or his wife and kids, but he, his wife and his kids has been ostracized within his community by his actions.
@@MelissaDuffySacredBreathHe still chose to be there for them then and after. In an environment that controlling you can do nothing wrong and have your actions questioned. It's like Scientology.
during this interview he admits to still having pictures on his wall at home of rulon and warren jeffs this blows my mind I cant imagine having pictures of pheados at my home,he has a long way too go, this cult aint done with yet they will be the next templetown its just waiting to happen.
This chap makes alot of sense and I have to have respect for him. His stance is against Warren Jeff's and definitely against underage marriage, not against his former friends and members of FLDS. He has so much insight given the Indoctrination he has been through. If I was him I,d have punched his Father in Law for trying to break up his marriage. That in itself is anti Christian and Apostate to Christian values. No man or Organisations have any right wether legal, secular or Religious has the rights to break up legal marriages.
My parents were abusive. I learned some lessons about life from him that parents probably teach their kids and I appreciate that. I hope he sees my comment someday and realizes he had a positive impact on a stranger. God bless all who read this.
Which is why it's so easy to be around "them" and not "see" what the outside world is "seeing." And before you know it your in knee deep and don't see the "issues" other people see. And what they are seeing is..."The faith's control and demand for absolute obedience from its members. The men do hold the priesthood and are in essence put on a pedestal. It's true. But lots of times what choice do you have, you have children, have no outside connections and the alternative for a husband is
What FLDS members suffer includes spiritual abuse as well. It is very painful to get past it. I am a victim of spiritual abuse from a Christian church pastor and his wife.
what the outside world has to offer, and if you've looked around it isn't much. So, you stay and figure it's better than the alternative. That's the honest to God truth. I'm speaking from experience.
The 'outside' world is not 'black and white.' Rather, life outside of FLDS holds both worse and better situations. There is freedom to think, to question openly, to truly chose without living in a punishment and prohibition based culture of 'black and white'. You can still hold standards of excellence and high moral values both as a part of faith-based communities as well as on your own. It's better to live your life exercising your God given free will and to exercise your personal moral responsibility. No man should be in the role of a 'god.' It is best to not follow any man or woman but only follow God. Humans are fallible and need to be 'checked' so as not to overly assume authority and power that is distorted and harms others. Don't be deceived by any man who claims to have a direct line to 'God' that you must unquestioningly obey. Outside of FLDS there are many highly moral and disciplined spiritual-communities as well as those who are atheists who live highly ethical lives of service to others and the world.
He speaks of 'us' when he refers to FLDS. From his words it sounds to me like he hasn't 'left' FLDS but that he's been 'demoted' and stigmatized because of his questioning some of the core behaviors of the community 1) Having 1 leader with godlike qualities 2) breaking laws of this land.
Based on what the FLDS understanding of what salvation is, it IS VERY POSSIBLE that the leadership see themselves AS God now and not after the resurrection. If they felt that they had the power to fill their congregations heads with lies about becoming "a god" after the resurrection, their lack of accountability would lead them to believe that based on their position (they are the only ones who hears from God) they ARE God on earth. Very dangerous thinking, very dangerous person(s),
Indeed. Truth is FLDS is closer to Joseph Smith's teachings. Neither are biblically but unfortunately, so many people don't read the Bible for themselves. But many people within both groups are sincere and God will bless then to know Him and REAL truth 🙏
I would love to read this guy's original blog. His rationales are impressive and he has the patience of a saint (I'd say "F* these trucks, we can do the interview indoors!")
+Rosita A. Huff Why talk to a clown like Maher?.He cant stand the country who made his hypocrite self rich.A typical American Jew,who cant even support Israel.Hope you dont respect that clown!
Interesting insight to some of the interpretations of the Mormon laws. I'm not saying this right but the different individuals that cause themselves profits and the people that follow them.
"Refusing a young bride is refusing a blessing." A blessing for whom? Certainly not for a 12 or 13 year old girl. I think that any ADULT can choose this life if they want it. That is, an adult that was raised outside the cult with exposure to life, people, education. Then if they choose that at 21 or 22 fine. Not great, but at least legal and the woman has the chance to see the craziness of it.
I feel incredibly sorry for the children mostly. To think the think if they are good their "saviour" will be saved/released...which will never happen. Poor kids will forever think their efforts and they will never be good enough. This is incredibly cruel.
I was raised in the FriiMethodist and Nazerine churche and was taught that I was not to question what was written in the bible. Is this any different than the LDS? Born in '34 and this was lalte '40's/50's...
He's talking about the FLDS, which is an extremist breakoff of the LDS. In either case, it's not so much about questioning the Bible itself, but about questioning how church leaders are interpreting the Bible. Church leaders are believed to be called by God, so to question them is to question God.
He stii leaves in fantasy world,the prophet had so many young wives and concubine and he is saying that it’s better to give young girls to older man just to make sure you have a stable family that’s very wrong in the real world young marries young and older guys take someone theyr own age and about multiple wife’s yes they believe the more young wife’s you have the higher you will be in celestial heaven but I say after one wife you live in adultery and you will never get to heaven anyhow that’s what my bible says.
All boils down to brainwash. The true holy spirit is moving in this man, but yes, it's a process. He's not out of the brainwash completely or else he would be able to confidently say the falseness of the FLDS religion as well as the foundational LDS (MORMON) religion. I was raised Mormon and know the process one must go thru coming out of a cult. It's very difficult. One must have their own identity to do so, and that's damn near impossible without the true Spirit of God making it possible within you. I struggled with the guilt and shame for about 3 years after being shown the diabolical nature and satanic system behind this belief system. Don't know where this man is at today in his relationship with our creator, but I wish him the very best. And thank you for being outspoken and strong with what God is giving you!!
This is actually how a very "typical - Mormon" man thinks, talks, believes, and lives. He's very typical of what a "Mormon" man is like and how they behave. Most people expect they behave with extreme control, violence, etc. But it's not true. It's more of a "gentle type" of persuasion because they tend to be very educated and charismatic. They are loving, caring, take good care of their families, are hard working, put their families first, etc. Something rare in our day and age...
Honest and sincere. Taxpayers have a real problem paying for the children we didn't have. Jeff will die in prison as he should. I feel sorry for the ppl following this and living it. It's child abuse. Best wishes to him always.
This cult cannot continue under any leadership. Their core values include abuse of children and women by men that think they are property. Their core values include CSA and massive inbreeding. Their core values include a child a year for each wife. Their core values include trapping a family in this life by removing fathers and separating children from their mothers. There is no way this cult can continue, and it’s about to get worse with Warren’s new commandments from prison.
I've heard the children have minimal education and work basically as slaves...is this true? I'd like to know numbers wise, population and how many have grade 12 behind their names....boy & girls, men & woman?
Numbers would be impossible but almost none graduate high school in the traditional sense. FLDS do not attend public schools they go to church-run private schools where every subject is taught in the context of their religion - for example history is the history of the church, not the history of the world. World events are taught only insofar as they relate to the church and "God's Kingdom". Boys are taught construction and mechanical skills; girls are taught cooking, sewing, and how to care for children. Children finish school and begin working for church-run businesses (or even being mothers) by age 14, sometimes earlier. A few are able to go to vocational schools on the outside but this is usually by assignment to serve the church - for example to be a midwife for the women in the community.
the background sound is annoying at times, but really, their audio equipment is good enough that they could just talk over it. Even if its sirens. But i really love hummingbirds. Maybe because i dont have them where i live, in central europe. Having them zip around in the background makes up for any noise i think. Hawk moths occupy that ecological niche here, but as insects they have now become very rare due to pesticides.
To question is to be human, I question everything and some people have called me negative or said I don’t trust anyone but when I’m trying to understand something I like to know why or how, just because it is! Is never enough for me! Ok I agree people were afraid to refuse a marriage because they were afraid to be kicked out and loose their families but they don’t have to sexually abuse these girls 🤷🏼♀️ but they do! Keep them barefoot and pregnant 🤰😡
This guy is too fair to the FLDS subjects who remain. In fact, he is very level headed for believing all this crazy nonsense. I excuse the children, but the adults are bringing suffering upon themselves and their children by believing all that shit because they have abandoned all sense of reason. I especially take exception once they witness other members who leave, knowing that possibility exists, and still choose to stay. Enough is enough. FLDS refer to only one prophet on the earth at a time. How do they reconcile at any given time, the prophet for the LDS church in SLC? Do they believe that sect is wicked, too, and their prophet, a liar?
Lorna Nicol totally agree. He defends joseph smith and warren Jeffs way too much. He defends plural marriage too much. He denies men’s true motives for all the young wives.
His defense of polygamy is sickening. It’s abusive to women and the children don’t get the support of a father with all that competition, and the competition between the “wives” causes harm to the children. This has never been God’s plan.
and according to the actual bible polygomy is wrong.. the Word clearly states a man will leave his parents and cleave to 1, ONE, UNO, woman and they will become 1.. doesnt say 2 or more women, says one... OT it's written.. Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh NT it's written.. Matthew 19:3-6 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. as u can see in these scriptures it clearly says 1 not many.. says WIFE not plural WIVES
+Brian McWhorter Live Victorious did cite Genesis 2:24 (OT). It goes to show the Bible is riddled with contradiction, left up to interpretation, and is supplemented with other texts and revisions from modern religious leaders.
+Live Victorious Warren Jeffs did often promote oneness with himself. His interpretation of those verses must mean the WOMENs duty is to become one with him and consider him their only one.
The FDLS follow their Doctrines and Covenants and Book of Mormon and consider the Bible to be unreliable. That right there defines a cult. The Bible is inerrant. Concubines were never condoned in the Old Testament, btw. God’s plan has always been just as those quoted scriptures above. There are no contradictions on this.
To love the Lord God with all heart and all soul and all mind we all have failed. We need Christ righteousness not our own righteousness. What gives a person eternal life is to believe (trust) on the Lord Jesus Christ. To believe that He is God and he bled and died for our sins and three days later rose from the dead. It is by faith(trust) in Jesus Christ alone! Ephesians 2:8-9.
Took 3 parts and really didn't give much infor. Only got that he wants to think for himself. Otherwise a big waste of time!!!! He seemed scared to really speak his mind! He was very careful how he spoke! Too much talking and not getting to the point!
I think this man has a problem an issue was completely letting go. It has to be because he has left Jeff Warren's picture and other peoples pictures on the wall of that fall in church. I understand it has to be pretty painful when it includes all of your life invested in something the day ended up being a lie. I don't know that I accept his answer but then I can't answer for him either. I know for myself I would have taken him outside and burn them. That's just my preference.
Discussing the marriage of young women as a perk? Uh, Arnold you lost me. Why not rent a nice room with pretty plants and birds for freek sake. THIS is a stressful environment too. Eh. I do not believe what you say about few underage marriages.
Have you read a normal Bible in which Moses {not Joseph Smith} came out of the wilderness and lead his people? I do not think you are reading the right Bible Arnie.
True Christian doctrine is that Jesus was the son Of God and died for the sins of the world John 3:16 and it's faith in his taking the punishment for our sins that saves you, It's all in the New Testament and anything that conflicts with the teachings in scripture is false teaching. We follow Jesus. Read the book of Hebrew...Jesus is the only high priest now and no earthly priest is needed. The old testament was the age of LAW and The New Testament is the age of GRACE.
andy gibson So what if he does??!! it's not a crime!! He has his own faith. At least he had the guts to challenge his leaders and ask questions and examine the reason behind his faith and his religious affiliation. Not believing in God doesn't necessarily make one a smarter or better person. A lot of people who call themselves atheists are not capable or presenting a line of arguments or articulate their views as well as this guy does. on the other hand I agree that he should get those pics off the wall if he still has them on. But indoctrination is extremely powerful; Getting rid of it is a long process.
She is a little bit annoying repeating the same questions over and over like she doesn't understand what he's saying, I even wonder if she is there to try and put doubt in his mind.
This man is so intelligent! He explains things so well and with such forgiveness. He would make great leader himself.
Hmm, he believed God was talking directly to Warren Jeffs .... 😏
Yeah. He has a lot of forgiveness for the pedophile men who abuse their power. How much compassion or forgiveness does he show for the women in that cult? Arsehole.
@@MaggieTheCat01 BelieveD. Past tense. He no longer believes that.
Oh yes thats exactly my opinion on his interview
@@MaggieTheCat01Open your eyes though! He was told by everyone he knew since he was born that the leaders did this.
"If you put your loyalty in front of your integrity you'll end up with neither one of them."
Profound. I really like this man.
this is a good guy! good for him to question everything and to stick by his family.
very glad i took the time to watch all three parts, i feel alot of compassion for this man, his family, his community.....i find it very telling that this devout, eloquent, devoted father and preisthood head was somehow found so lacking by the powers that be in his church (Warren), i mean gee if this man is not good enough, who is? i pray he and his family find peace.......
Mr. Richter gives a very compelling interview--very intelligent man
I thought of that same quote when he talked about how Warren didn't start off as being evil. He grew into it, drunk with power.
Was it that hard to rent a room somewhere quiet to conduct this serious interview?
Yes, this person is very eloquent and level-headed and very informative.
As a former LDS, I fully understand following priesthood and a prophet to a degree that the religion becomes a life style. Fear of losing the eternal blessings of family is an emotionally crippling threat that makes you stay and refrain from questioning. To walk away takes a huge amount of courage as your religion gradually
But is isn’t LDS different from FLDS? Most Mormons are nice people. Look at the Osmonds.
@@LS-gp7xy I was LDS as well. It’s not that different. The core doctrines are the same. FLDS practices polygamy now. LDS believes it will be practiced in Heaven - each worthy priest will have 1,000 wives.
@@cindychristensen944 do those who attend the LDS church actually believe that polygamy will be practiced in heaven?
@@XjtBA The church doctrine states this, and people who have been in a long time know this. But it's not discussed with new converts to the church, or to youth. It's something you learn once you're way in, indoctrinated, afraid of leaving - it's your whole world. I was in that church for 17 years before hearing that polygamy in heaven is a core belief.
@@XjtBA So yes, the church doctrine states it and Elders believe it. But if you were to ask a typical Mormon if they believe it, they probably wouldn't. Because they don't know that the church doctrine states it. Hope that makes sense. Ignorance is bliss - the LDS church banks on this.
Wow its crazy how so many people have no clue what was happening . Very great interview
How did someone become so eloquent and level-headed after growing up in the FLDS? I am amazed and this is to his credit. This was a great interview! His family should be very proud of him... there is hope for the FLDS.
Hope he,s still doing well 10 years later in the present day.
His insight is amazing..
Absolutely power corrupts absolutely
I can’t imagine feeling great pressure to provide for and feed 15 to 25 to 30 people! To much abuse and neglect is involved in this sect. A man can’t give his 20 or more children all the love, attention,and guidance they need let alone the monetary and education they will need for a successful life!
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Good on you Mr Richter...using what the Dear Lord blessed every man and woman with....A BRAIN, to think for yourself!
i have to applaud him, he did grow up inside this... thing, whatever. He did never know anything else in his life. But the bonds to his family just are stronger than the bonds to the belief-system he did grow up in.
Thats a strong moral compass, if you have been raised up and teached a DIFFERENT belief all your life, but when it REALLY gets rough you decide to not leave wife + children because its just the right thing to do, thats real strength. Especially if your own dad pushes hard.
Very insightful interview. I understand better the control that these religious despots hold over their church members.
It’s sooo sad. Warren Jeffs tore apart so many families :(
Thank you for speaking about this! great interview, very informative.
Questions to religious leaders or about religion? Questions are a no-no. Bravo, Mr. Richter, for having the intellect and balls to ask them.
Such a sick way to live! FLDS is a cult of the first rank! I'm happy this man was smart to leave along with his wife.
What he said in this interview that he didn't leave his home or his wife and kids, but he, his wife and his kids has been ostracized within his community by his actions.
@@MelissaDuffySacredBreathHe still chose to be there for them then and after. In an environment that controlling you can do nothing wrong and have your actions questioned. It's like Scientology.
THE CAMERA CREW GETS ON ONE'S NERVES..............
This man looks SO sweet humble!
Should say "Warrens good acts do not (justify) any of the wrongs he has done,"
during this interview he admits to still having pictures on his wall at home of rulon and warren jeffs this blows my mind I cant imagine having pictures of pheados at my home,he has a long way too go, this cult aint done with yet they will be the next templetown its just waiting to happen.
michael denis Carlin this is so heartbreaking to me.
This chap makes alot of sense and I have to have respect for him. His stance is against Warren Jeff's and definitely against underage marriage, not against his former friends and members of FLDS.
He has so much insight given the Indoctrination he has been through. If I was him I,d have punched his Father in Law for trying to break up his marriage.
That in itself is anti Christian and Apostate to Christian values. No man or Organisations have any right wether legal, secular or Religious has the rights to break up legal marriages.
My parents were abusive. I learned some lessons about life from him that parents probably teach their kids and I appreciate that. I hope he sees my comment someday and realizes he had a positive impact on a stranger. God bless all who read this.
Which is why it's so easy to be around "them" and not "see" what the outside world is "seeing." And before you know it your in knee deep and don't see the "issues" other people see. And what they are seeing is..."The faith's control and demand for absolute obedience from its members. The men do hold the priesthood and are in essence put on a pedestal. It's true. But lots of times what choice do you have, you have children, have no outside connections and the alternative for a husband is
What FLDS members suffer includes spiritual abuse as well. It is very painful to get past it. I am a victim of spiritual abuse from a Christian church pastor and his wife.
what the outside world has to offer, and if you've looked around it isn't much. So, you stay and figure it's better than the alternative. That's the honest to God truth. I'm speaking from experience.
The 'outside' world is not 'black and white.' Rather, life outside of FLDS holds both worse and better situations. There is freedom to think, to question openly, to truly chose without living in a punishment and prohibition based culture of 'black and white'. You can still hold standards of excellence and high moral values both as a part of faith-based communities as well as on your own. It's better to live your life exercising your God given free will and to exercise your personal moral responsibility. No man should be in the role of a 'god.' It is best to not follow any man or woman but only follow God. Humans are fallible and need to be 'checked' so as not to overly assume authority and power that is distorted and harms others. Don't be deceived by any man who claims to have a direct line to 'God' that you must unquestioningly obey. Outside of FLDS there are many highly moral and disciplined spiritual-communities as well as those who are atheists who live highly ethical lives of service to others and the world.
I think he is LDS, or some sort of Christian, but isn't FLDS. He still has some faith and core beliefs, but isn't part of the fundamentalist movement.
He speaks of 'us' when he refers to FLDS. From his words it sounds to me like he hasn't 'left' FLDS but that he's been 'demoted' and stigmatized because of his questioning some of the core behaviors of the community 1) Having 1 leader with godlike qualities 2) breaking laws of this land.
Based on what the FLDS understanding of what salvation is, it IS VERY POSSIBLE that the leadership see themselves AS God now and not after the resurrection. If they felt that they had the power to fill their congregations heads with lies about becoming "a god" after the resurrection, their lack of accountability would lead them to believe that based on their position (they are the only ones who hears from God) they ARE God on earth. Very dangerous thinking, very dangerous person(s),
Holy Cow I grew up LDS, and the teachings are identical to mainstream mormonism. Good ol' Joseph Smith!
Indeed. Truth is FLDS is closer to Joseph Smith's teachings. Neither are biblically but unfortunately, so many people don't read the Bible for themselves. But many people within both groups are sincere and God will bless then to know Him and REAL truth 🙏
I would love to read this guy's original blog. His rationales are impressive and he has the patience of a saint (I'd say "F* these trucks, we can do the interview indoors!")
saltnlightblondie1
Don't know why it couldn't be conducted in an enclosure devoid of this unnecessary interlude of trucks
got to love videos on a channel called HDnet.., that are only available in sub SD resolution.
It's really too bad that the production of this interview is so shitty... Arnold Richter has a pretty interesting story, but it gets ruined by HDNet
This is only the raw, unedited video, not the finished production.
This is raw footage.
This guy should talk to Bill Maher...that would be interesting
+Rosita A. Huff Yes. I would have thought of that eventually. He really needs to do a Religulous II.
+Rosita A. Huff Why talk to a clown like Maher?.He cant stand the country who made his hypocrite self rich.A typical American Jew,who cant even support Israel.Hope you dont respect that clown!
@@MrRealpainter reporting you for anti semitic speech you racist.
What he says makes so much sense, I admire him for what he believes, and for speaking out.
Interesting insight to some of the interpretations of the Mormon laws. I'm not saying this right but the different individuals that cause themselves profits and the people that follow them.
"Refusing a young bride is refusing a blessing." A blessing for whom? Certainly not for a 12 or 13 year old girl. I think that any ADULT can choose this life if they want it. That is, an adult that was raised outside the cult with exposure to life, people, education. Then if they choose that at 21 or 22 fine. Not great, but at least legal and the woman has the chance to see the craziness of it.
I feel incredibly sorry for the children mostly. To think the think if they are good their "saviour" will be saved/released...which will never happen. Poor kids will forever think their efforts and they will never be good enough.
This is incredibly cruel.
What is sect by the way..
I was raised in the FriiMethodist and Nazerine churche and was taught that I was not to question what was written in the bible. Is this any different than the LDS?
Born in '34 and this was lalte '40's/50's...
Free Methodist...
He's talking about the FLDS, which is an extremist breakoff of the LDS. In either case, it's not so much about questioning the Bible itself, but about questioning how church leaders are interpreting the Bible. Church leaders are believed to be called by God, so to question them is to question God.
14:52 - Sums up all LDS denominations. Trade God for Satan.
What does "pure" mean when talking about women?
He stii leaves in fantasy world,the prophet had so many young wives and concubine and he is saying that it’s better to give young girls to older man just to make sure you have a stable family that’s very wrong in the real world young marries young and older guys take someone theyr own age and about multiple wife’s yes they believe the more young wife’s you have the higher you will be in celestial heaven but I say after one wife you live in adultery and you will never get to heaven anyhow that’s what my bible says.
He's cute!
All boils down to brainwash. The true holy spirit is moving in this man, but yes, it's a process. He's not out of the brainwash completely or else he would be able to confidently say the falseness of the FLDS religion as well as the foundational LDS (MORMON) religion. I was raised Mormon and know the process one must go thru coming out of a cult. It's very difficult. One must have their own identity to do so, and that's damn near impossible without the true Spirit of God making it possible within you. I struggled with the guilt and shame for about 3 years after being shown the diabolical nature and satanic system behind this belief system. Don't know where this man is at today in his relationship with our creator, but I wish him the very best. And thank you for being outspoken and strong with what God is giving you!!
This is actually how a very "typical - Mormon" man thinks, talks, believes, and lives. He's very typical of what a "Mormon" man is like and how they behave. Most people expect they behave with extreme control, violence, etc. But it's not true. It's more of a "gentle type" of persuasion because they tend to be very educated and charismatic. They are loving, caring, take good care of their families, are hard working, put their families first, etc. Something rare in our day and age...
Honest and sincere.
Taxpayers have a real problem paying for the children we didn't have.
Jeff will die in prison as he should.
I feel sorry for the ppl following this and living it.
It's child abuse.
Best wishes to him always.
1984 George Orwell
FLDS needs to fire Jeff and hire this guy. He can make diferents
This cult cannot continue under any leadership. Their core values include abuse of children and women by men that think they are property. Their core values include CSA and massive inbreeding. Their core values include a child a year for each wife. Their core values include trapping a family in this life by removing fathers and separating children from their mothers. There is no way this cult can continue, and it’s about to get worse with Warren’s new commandments from prison.
I've heard the children have minimal education and work basically as slaves...is this true? I'd like to know numbers wise, population and how many have grade 12 behind their names....boy & girls, men & woman?
Numbers would be impossible but almost none graduate high school in the traditional sense. FLDS do not attend public schools they go to church-run private schools where every subject is taught in the context of their religion - for example history is the history of the church, not the history of the world. World events are taught only insofar as they relate to the church and "God's Kingdom". Boys are taught construction and mechanical skills; girls are taught cooking, sewing, and how to care for children. Children finish school and begin working for church-run businesses (or even being mothers) by age 14, sometimes earlier.
A few are able to go to vocational schools on the outside but this is usually by assignment to serve the church - for example to be a midwife for the women in the community.
I see he still afraid of FLDS. He choses his words very carefully.
the background sound is annoying at times, but really, their audio equipment is good enough that they could just talk over it. Even if its sirens.
But i really love hummingbirds. Maybe because i dont have them where i live, in central europe. Having them zip around in the background makes up for any noise i think. Hawk moths occupy that ecological niche here, but as insects they have now become very rare due to pesticides.
It is just so sad to see people's want for living what they consider to be a Godly life being abused by those with criminal intent.
Absolute pover corrupts
To question is to be human, I question everything and some people have called me negative or said I don’t trust anyone but when I’m trying to understand something I like to know why or how, just because it is! Is never enough for me!
Ok I agree people were afraid to refuse a marriage because they were afraid to be kicked out and loose their families but they don’t have to sexually abuse these girls 🤷🏼♀️ but they do! Keep them barefoot and pregnant 🤰😡
Did he leave the FLDS cult?
He got kicked out
….I ask ones ….where did cane got his wife from?…. I was told not to ask questions……!
This guy is too fair to the FLDS subjects who remain. In fact, he is very level headed for believing all this crazy nonsense. I excuse the children, but the adults are bringing suffering upon themselves and their children by believing all that shit because they have abandoned all sense of reason. I especially take exception once they witness other members who leave, knowing that possibility exists, and still choose to stay. Enough is enough.
FLDS refer to only one prophet on the earth at a time. How do they reconcile at any given time, the prophet for the LDS church in SLC? Do they believe that sect is wicked, too, and their prophet, a liar?
jolie robles The adults don't know a life other than this since childhood. Only the oldest adults can remember the real world.
I think this man isn't quite out of the FLDS. He defended a lot religious wrong.
Lorna Nicol totally agree. He defends joseph smith and warren Jeffs way too much. He defends plural marriage too much. He denies men’s true motives for all the young wives.
He didn't defend them. He explained what the FLDS believe and why. He didn't justify it in any way.
I believe in marriage and divorce
His defense of polygamy is sickening. It’s abusive to women and the children don’t get the support of a father with all that competition, and the competition between the “wives” causes harm to the children. This has never been God’s plan.
and according to the actual bible polygomy is wrong.. the Word clearly states a man will leave his parents and cleave to 1, ONE, UNO, woman and they will become 1.. doesnt say 2 or more women, says one... OT it's written.. Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh
NT it's written.. Matthew 19:3-6
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Ephesians 5:31
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
as u can see in these scriptures it clearly says 1 not many.. says WIFE not plural WIVES
+Live Victorious Have you ever read the Old Testament?
+Brian McWhorter Live Victorious did cite Genesis 2:24 (OT). It goes to show the Bible is riddled with contradiction, left up to interpretation, and is supplemented with other texts and revisions from modern religious leaders.
+Live Victorious Warren Jeffs did often promote oneness with himself. His interpretation of those verses must mean the WOMENs duty is to become one with him and consider him their only one.
The FDLS follow their Doctrines and Covenants and Book of Mormon and consider the Bible to be unreliable. That right there defines a cult. The Bible is inerrant. Concubines were never condoned in the Old Testament, btw. God’s plan has always been just as those quoted scriptures above. There are no contradictions on this.
And yet the Patriarchs all had multiple wives, and both David and Solomon flat out had Harems of wives.
His defense of joseph smith and warren Jeff’s is rather sickening.
One of the other prisoners really needs to off that false prophet...
Mind control
To love the Lord God with all heart and all soul and all mind we all have failed. We need Christ righteousness not our own righteousness. What gives a person eternal life is to believe (trust) on the Lord Jesus Christ. To believe that He is God and he bled and died for our sins and three days later rose from the dead. It is by faith(trust) in Jesus Christ alone! Ephesians 2:8-9.
Amen! 🙌🏻 Praise God. I hope that this darling man has come to The True and Living God.
That's the lie...that man that claims to be a prophet...IS NOT that's what makes it a cult
we are leaving under GRACE Fox and salvation is through Jesus Christ only Romans 10vs 9-10
Took 3 parts and really didn't give much infor. Only got that he wants to think for himself. Otherwise a big waste of time!!!! He seemed scared to really speak his mind! He was very careful how he spoke! Too much talking and not getting to the point!
I think this man has a problem an issue was completely letting go. It has to be because he has left Jeff Warren's picture and other peoples pictures on the wall of that fall in church. I understand it has to be pretty painful when it includes all of your life invested in something the day ended up being a lie. I don't know that I accept his answer but then I can't answer for him either. I know for myself I would have taken him outside and burn them. That's just my preference.
He talking a lot of nonsens....
I like the man and his interview but he played down sexual abuse not only on girls but also on 5 year old boys.
This was before all that really came to light in detail
Discussing the marriage of young women as a perk? Uh, Arnold you lost me. Why not rent a nice room with pretty plants and birds for freek sake. THIS is a stressful environment too. Eh. I do not believe what you say about few underage marriages.
Have you read a normal Bible in which Moses {not Joseph Smith} came out of the wilderness and lead his people? I do not think you are reading the right Bible Arnie.
He works to hard to justify FLDS cult.
Andrew had internet and so no he knew!!!
Why justify abuse and mistreatment
It’s confusing how easily it is to brainwashed.
Like if your prophet says pray and repent but then only the prophet can talk to God???
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True Christian doctrine is that Jesus was the son Of God and died for the sins of the world John 3:16 and it's faith in his taking the punishment for our sins that saves you, It's all in the New Testament and anything that conflicts with the teachings in scripture is false teaching. We follow Jesus. Read the book of Hebrew...Jesus is the only high priest now and no earthly priest is needed. The old testament was the age of LAW and The New Testament is the age of GRACE.
More cultic doctrine, now coming from you.
Please don't tell me this guy still believes in a so called "God"!!!!
andy gibson
So what if he does??!! it's not a crime!! He has his own faith. At least he had the guts to challenge his leaders and ask questions and examine the reason behind his faith and his religious affiliation. Not believing in God doesn't necessarily make one a smarter or better person. A lot of people who call themselves atheists are not capable or presenting a line of arguments or articulate their views as well as this guy does. on the other hand I agree that he should get those pics off the wall if he still has them on. But indoctrination is extremely powerful; Getting rid of it is a long process.
Please don’t tell me you DON’T believe in God!
IN NO WAY, SHAPE, FORM OR CIRCUMSTANCE DOES THIS VIDEO REPRESENT THE OFFICIAL "CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS."
She is a little bit annoying repeating the same questions over and over like she doesn't understand what he's saying, I even wonder if she is there to try and put doubt in his mind.