The Story of Cincinnatus and George Washington • Old Western Culture

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  • @TheKrouton
    @TheKrouton 8 років тому +201

    Cincinnatus is one in a million; A man incorruptible by power.

    • @jjt1881
      @jjt1881 7 років тому +30

      With respect, there is no man who cannot be corrupted by power. Cincinnatus and Washington were well aware of that fact, but they choose a different path for themselves and their countries. Both men were wise and honorable patriots with the moral courage to recognize that weakness of human nature and to reject it for a greater good. Washington, like Cincinnatus was a true patriot, a gentleman, a revolutionary and a dreamer. In his vision, the possibility of transforming this new nation into a dictatorship (no matter how convenient or lucrative for him) was a an act of treason against his country and his ideals, inspired by the principles of the enlightenment. Their humbleness, wisdom and fortitude of character bore the trait-marks of what makes some people great. They strive for what is just without forgetting the simple truths of life. Many times the real moral virtues lie hidden in the hearts of countless men and women just waiting to be discovered and actualized. If they found them and believe in them, the only barrier is to find the true courage to put them into practice. Cincinnatus and Washington are examples of real people finding that moral courage and believing in them. I hope other public figures in office in the U.S and around the world realize the vital importance of these truths, because those are the real cradle of patriotism and honor, and not the fake promises of a brave new world commonly found in all our politicians. Their greatness was based in humbleness, real patriotism, moral rectitude and a particular fortitude of character. They set an example for all of us and for that, they shall live in eternal glory. KUDOS

    • @cfsVchris
      @cfsVchris 7 років тому +2

      Outstandingly said. Thank you Jj.

    • @tcc5750
      @tcc5750 7 років тому +2

      Not really. Cincinnatus was one of about thirty dictators who all voluntarily relinquished there six month terms as dictator. Julius Caesar was the first not to relinquish it, thus causing him to be assassinated by the Senate. Later his adopted son & nephew Octavian (Augustus) would transform the Oligarchy known as the Roman Republic into the Roman Principate.

    • @Nazi-kg2fy
      @Nazi-kg2fy 6 років тому

      Krouton Read David Adler, 2006.

    • @TheMoeHawk
      @TheMoeHawk 6 років тому +1

      more like his power comes from his perceived incorruptibility

  • @peterpan4962
    @peterpan4962 4 роки тому +80

    You forgot the best part about Cincinnatus, near the end of his life, one of his sons was put on trail for military incompetence. It looked like he was going to be found guilty with the penalty of death. The defense asked "Who will go tell Cincinnatus should we convict him ?". He was immediatly aqcuitted, no one could bring themselves to break the heart of a old man who served his country so honorably.

    • @romanroads
      @romanroads  2 роки тому +10

      That’s included later! This is an excerpt :-)

    • @peterpan4962
      @peterpan4962 2 роки тому +3

      @@romanroads It's really important though, it's the pay off basically living honorably instead becoming corrupt threw power.
      There's a lot of subtle context there, where a dictator would just prevent the trail of his son all together and such.
      It's the entire reason why he isn't just some succesful commander but was idolized as the perfect citizen.

  • @spartanxmonster
    @spartanxmonster 8 років тому +42

    Yay, I'm so happy! I heard the story of Cincinnatus as a kid but even when I studied Roman history in college he never came up. My least favorite part of college actually was how they never seem to draw one thing from another, how correlations are made across time and space. Seeing as you just not only reassured me that I havnt been telling friends a wrong version of the story for all these years, you also just made doubly sure to bring up the correlations that were/are still being made. I WANT MORE OF THIS!

    • @romanroads
      @romanroads  8 років тому +4

      More is available!
      romanroadsmedia.com :)
      This is a small excerpt from a 16 part course called Old Western Culture.

  • @mikeyahrens
    @mikeyahrens 5 років тому +11

    I know now. Thank you for the great story. Born and raised in the city and so proud of the name.

  • @TheCyberianWonder
    @TheCyberianWonder 4 роки тому +27

    Thank you, dear Storyteller. Just discovered your channel and I'm so excited to watch all your videos. Rock on!

    • @romanroads
      @romanroads  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks! learn all about the series here: www.oldwesternculture.com

    • @TheCyberianWonder
      @TheCyberianWonder 4 роки тому +1

      @@romanroads Will do.

  • @kyleroberts3121
    @kyleroberts3121 4 роки тому +19

    One of the most interesting people in history

  • @BigCaucasoid
    @BigCaucasoid 3 роки тому +17

    Well, I don’t know if anybody from Cincinnati OH knows where their name came from, but rest assured. You helped a Californian learn something interesting today, so there’s that, that’s a feat in and of itself.

  • @mikebrown1926
    @mikebrown1926 2 роки тому +20

    I have heard two anecdotes regarding Washington and his refusal to stay in power. After the Revolutionary War he was supposedly urged by some of his officers to make himself king of America, and his reply was: "I did not fight George the Third to become George the First." And Napoleon once grumbled that "People wanted me to be another Washington, but who could do that?"

  • @jarehelt
    @jarehelt 5 років тому +21

    boy has our education really slipped.. Thank God for UA-cam

  • @wugy07
    @wugy07 4 роки тому +7

    What staggers me is how entitled today's generation is to argue that a man of the highest integrity like George Washington, the father of America, should be remembered for owning slaves, not the countless signs of integrity he showed during the toughest period of America's history.
    Thank you for the wonderful video. History is so beautifully complex.

  • @nicksflicks9592
    @nicksflicks9592 10 місяців тому +1

    The neighborhood in Baltimore you mentioned is called "Mount Vernon Square".

  • @naturae-studiosum
    @naturae-studiosum 2 роки тому

    Mr. Callihan, if you ever create a podcast or whatever, I am sure me and lots of others would like to hear you talk or even read. Salutations

  • @bellakhokhar5621
    @bellakhokhar5621 9 років тому +23

    Fascinating history !

  • @TheFinnmacool
    @TheFinnmacool 4 роки тому +2

    Fascinating story, thanks!

  • @alwaysr6778
    @alwaysr6778 4 роки тому +3

    wow thank you so much! awesome

  • @MrSparkums
    @MrSparkums Рік тому

    Great presentation!👍

  • @tourajtayebi2189
    @tourajtayebi2189 4 роки тому +1

    Great talk, thanks!

  • @moonasha
    @moonasha 6 років тому +4

    this was a great video. Wonder why it doesn't have more views

  • @franciscovalencia7018
    @franciscovalencia7018 7 років тому +7

    Hay pocos humanos que debemos conocer y admirar como son Lucio Quinto cincinnatus y Marco Tulio Cicerón

  • @richardkajander1126
    @richardkajander1126 9 років тому +32

    I think Cincinnatus assumed the role of dictator twice during his life, both times departing the role as soon as the crises were over. The founding fathers must have all had the apprehension of future empire on their minds as they established a republic, since many were versed in Greek and Roman literature and history.

    • @dariusdarkshadow1288
      @dariusdarkshadow1288 7 років тому

      Richard Kajander while that is how the legend goes, most scholars agree that he didn’t actually do it a second time

    • @mikeh7917
      @mikeh7917 3 роки тому +3

      The 1st time....Cincinnatus was young....he defeated Rome's enemies and renounced the dictatorship in 15 days, even though he was entitled to 6 months!! Later in life...he was made dictator AGAIN. He was 80 years old the 2nd time! He defeated Rome's enemies again...and renounced the dictatorship...it took him 3 weeks this time...at 80+ years old....he was not in his prime anyway more!! Long live the great Cincinnatus!

    • @mikeh7917
      @mikeh7917 3 роки тому +1

      @@dariusdarkshadow1288 Wrong. The 2nd time he was 80 years old!

    • @tradcathgroyper7411
      @tradcathgroyper7411 3 роки тому

      @@mikeh7917 I'm not an expert on this stuff, but it actually looks like there is some debate on whether he was ever dictator a second time.

    • @mikeh7917
      @mikeh7917 3 роки тому

      @@tradcathgroyper7411 Livy has the best written information that we have on him even though he wrote during the Julio Claudian era. Likely some legend gets mixed in over the time in between, but the two terms as dictator are accepted by most modern historians.

  • @roymao7888
    @roymao7888 4 роки тому +3

    this is amazing x100000000.

  • @modern3272
    @modern3272 5 років тому +17

    I live in Cincinnati and I knew of our name just not the story of the man also we have a mural in downtown for him

    • @mikeh7917
      @mikeh7917 3 роки тому +1

      I too am a proud citizen of the city named after the great CINCINNATUS!

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 3 роки тому +5

    I am really amazed and glad to see that there are still Americans who actually look at their country's history with objective lenses but also with pride and reverence. I feared most of the academics and historian were nothing but CRT spouting 1619 proponents/revisionists. Glad I am wrong.

  • @shrump87
    @shrump87 8 років тому +6

    Great story! Thank you!

  • @desmondford-green5693
    @desmondford-green5693 6 років тому +3

    Exactly what i was looking for, great video.

  • @innocentodeny6849
    @innocentodeny6849 8 років тому +8

    thanks for this

  • @dragon_ninja17
    @dragon_ninja17 4 роки тому +3

    3:55 had me dead lol

  • @henriomoeje8741
    @henriomoeje8741 4 роки тому +2

    Sweet tea and lemonade in ancient Rome? Prof please!

    • @Huy_Nguyen_USA
      @Huy_Nguyen_USA 4 роки тому

      Yes, agreed. The magnitude of the story of the man is enough, the colorful hyperbole was not necessary at all.

    • @davidtrontelj3620
      @davidtrontelj3620 3 роки тому

      It was a nice add to the story u just mad...

  • @quins7730
    @quins7730 4 роки тому

    and the character Maximus in Gladiator was partly inspired by this I think.

  • @MaurizioStefanelli-dd7yo
    @MaurizioStefanelli-dd7yo Рік тому +2

    Cincinnatus was humble, he had no slaves ,he bent his back in his small farm, how dare you compaire him to a landowner and slaver?

  • @lindabruner1307
    @lindabruner1307 Рік тому

    Everyone should read

  • @Agora42069
    @Agora42069 3 роки тому

    what book is he holding?

  • @RyanMcDonaldUSA
    @RyanMcDonaldUSA 3 роки тому

    why is the specific date of his resignation important?

  • @Aemilius46
    @Aemilius46 2 роки тому

    I believe there is a statue of Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, in, Cincinnati Ohio!! THAT shows how much of a Great Man he was!!!! ALL HAIL Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus 🛡️🙌 A True Roman of Virtue, Nobility, Loyalty, Humility, Skill, Selfless, Loving, and Perfection!!

  • @henriomoeje8741
    @henriomoeje8741 5 років тому +4

    Lemonade & ice tea in ancient Rome?

  • @austinbevis4266
    @austinbevis4266 6 років тому +3

    I live in Cincinnati, also knew it was named after cincinnatus, I just didn’t know the full story

  • @Aemilius46
    @Aemilius46 2 роки тому

    Love this!!!! You sir, did a Wonderful job!! 👏🙌🛡️ Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus was a TRUE Roman!!!! And far greater than Caesar and Sulla, who Not only marched on Rome, but took power by FORCE! Where Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus was ASKED to become dictator, and only kept his power until the crisis and celebrations we're over!! #GloryToRome 🛡️🙌⚔️🗡️
    (Though Sulla at least kept Rome a Republic and respected the Republic by stepping down, Caesar though?? As I have unwaivering Love and Passion for Rome, I despise Caesar and his family!! They were the reasons for the Destruction of the Noble Republic!! 🤬😓 Technically Gaius Marius also, for making the Roman Military more loyal to generals than Rome ITSELF!!!!)

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop
    @DrumToTheBassWoop 2 роки тому

    This shows how power should be a relay race, where you hand the baton on to the next leader and so on, democracies are all about the process.

  • @AntiNihilist
    @AntiNihilist 3 місяці тому +1

    A millenia later? More like 2 millenia.

  • @Bitter-Sailor
    @Bitter-Sailor 3 роки тому

    Surprised they never mention Mythraic tradition?

  • @mattyounger9907
    @mattyounger9907 4 роки тому

    He was a farmer source world book encyclopedia 1957

  • @HKT100
    @HKT100 7 років тому +8

    Cincinnatus. Thug Life.

    • @digitalsalsas
      @digitalsalsas 4 роки тому +1

      You should not say thug life. The phrase comes from the Thuggees of India who were murderers and criminals and it is not a coincidence that elites tattoo this on their bodies and put it in popular music. The thuggees were like the first drug running gang in service to the ruling elite. I’d urge you to look up Bishop Larry gaiters if you want to know more. Not cool, never was

    • @longneccclarinet910
      @longneccclarinet910 2 роки тому

      @@digitalsalsas When people say "thug life" it doesn't come from malicious intent. Thanks for the information, though, I guess.

  • @tcc5750
    @tcc5750 7 років тому +1

    2:25 :O

    • @foucachon
      @foucachon 7 років тому

      I love how he adds little anachronisms :-)

  • @tcc5750
    @tcc5750 7 років тому +2

    0:32 :)

  • @tcc5750
    @tcc5750 7 років тому +1

    2:39 Ironic so many people don't know Dictator was a ratified position.

  • @hxney_senpai
    @hxney_senpai 3 роки тому

    when ur only watching this for social studies: 👁👄👁

    • @ramdom_assortment
      @ramdom_assortment 3 роки тому

      At least they're actually teaching/taught you something, or rather had you teach yourself.

  • @sadiqabdi2716
    @sadiqabdi2716 6 місяців тому

    Cincinnatus, the Roman of the Romans.

  • @dutchboyslim5951
    @dutchboyslim5951 5 років тому +3

    Our modern Cincinnatus = Jesse Ventura

  • @Jayhazy23
    @Jayhazy23 7 років тому

    Check out Greenland theory

  • @notsharingwithyoutube
    @notsharingwithyoutube 2 роки тому +1

    We are barbarians living in the ruins of a former civilization.

  • @indianasunsets5738
    @indianasunsets5738 3 роки тому

    I wonder if all these wonderful monuments to Washington have been defaced by now?

    • @TTaylor
      @TTaylor 3 роки тому +1

      It was already defaced by sticking antennas all over it, but I take your meaning.

    • @indianasunsets5738
      @indianasunsets5738 3 роки тому +1

      @@TTaylor I could be wrong but I believe those are lightning rods.

    • @TTaylor
      @TTaylor 3 роки тому

      @@indianasunsets5738 oh! Maybe… I hadn’t thought of that.

    • @MerelyMullen
      @MerelyMullen 3 роки тому

      Why does it matter what happens to monuments of Washington when his living legacy was forever destroyed on 1/6/21?

    • @indianasunsets5738
      @indianasunsets5738 3 роки тому

      @@MerelyMullen LOL

  • @digitalsalsas
    @digitalsalsas 4 роки тому

    Who Dey

  • @bartmacaluso
    @bartmacaluso 3 роки тому

    I been orbiting its factitude for quite awhile and while you skirt between ignorance and cultism's, us others been normatively insuring the beating heart of our great republic...

  • @bushwhakked
    @bushwhakked 4 роки тому +3

    For a modern example of a dictator not giving up his power at the end of his term. Please refer to the 2020 elections of the United States of America

  • @oldsoulmel6186
    @oldsoulmel6186 3 роки тому

    Veritas veritas veritas I say!

  • @ralphbernhard1757
    @ralphbernhard1757 3 роки тому

    Sounds like the plot of Star Wars (Palpatine).

  • @tHEdANKcRUSADER
    @tHEdANKcRUSADER 6 років тому +2

    Story as told b bbbby ummm uh... uh Jeff um a’ Goldblum

    • @markramsey4640
      @markramsey4640 3 роки тому +1

      I was thinking Max Headroom. Jeff Goldblum is perfect.

  • @anindyassdey
    @anindyassdey 5 років тому +3

    Farming really? A man of your talents?

  • @roanora7853
    @roanora7853 Рік тому

    Thank you Mao Zedong for turning me on to this

  • @shaggycan
    @shaggycan 3 роки тому

    Cincinnatus got snubbed by the Pater Patriae committee.

  • @qwertyu8832
    @qwertyu8832 5 років тому +1

    Now get out of my office

  • @jhogrute
    @jhogrute 4 роки тому

    measure of a man

  • @Huy_Nguyen_USA
    @Huy_Nguyen_USA 4 роки тому

    The hyperbole wasn't necessary.

  • @I_Am_Reclaimer
    @I_Am_Reclaimer 2 роки тому

    Fuego Fuego Fuego

  • @cheydinal5401
    @cheydinal5401 6 років тому +4

    Washington, the "farmer" from Virginia. More like one of the richest people in the 13 colonies, who owned tons of farms

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 6 років тому +1

    would be so much more enjoyable if homie didn’t smack his lips before each new sentence...

  • @Falcrist
    @Falcrist 3 роки тому +1

    "everyone back then had a classical education"
    Yeaaaaa no. All of the aristocratic upper class had that kind of education. Most people had little or no education.

    • @basedcataphract5852
      @basedcataphract5852 3 роки тому

      Education isnt always formsl education

    • @Falcrist
      @Falcrist 3 роки тому

      @@basedcataphract5852 "classical education" is always formal.

    • @lucario2188
      @lucario2188 3 роки тому

      I am sure you haven't read Marcus Aurelius meditations.

  • @cristianwaters2190
    @cristianwaters2190 3 роки тому +1

    Gideon = Leonidas + Cincinnatus.