Master Class in incompetence: Main Trimmer, sitting like a bump on a log. Driver not paying attention to wind direction. Rest of crew attempting the impossible (reefing a main under full load) Companion way hatch wide open with wind and seas from behind. This video should be required watching for all new crews thinking of participating in ocean sailing as a what not to do.
Hello, everyone, I’m a coastal sailor with no experience in offshore heavy weather sailing. Please tell me what you would do in this situation. I would put the boat on a close-hauled course, use a reefed jib sail (if there is no storm jib), and completely lower the mainsail. If you have experience with heavy weather sailing, please share it with me; I would love to learn. Thanks!
@@amajstrenko if possible reef the main sail more early. drive against the wind and reef the main sail, use your engine, if not possible use storm fock for "heaving to"
This would have been my action plan: 1. revalue my abilities and my crew's (clearly not great) 2. at 50 knots, go head to wind. 3. pull down the main. 4. securely tie down the mainsail 5. securely centralise the boom 6. tidy the deck. 7. send as many crew as possible into the cabin given the lightning 8. turn on engine and head for the closest port given the wind directions and strength. There is nothing embarrassing about abandoning a race and avoiding injury and boat damage.
Engine not necessary once you have done all the above to ride out squall as safely as possible. In a race it would also DQ yourself. I would deep reef upon seeing the approaching weather. And consider fore reaching, assuming my tack line is upwind. On the run, the deep reef gives them plenty of sail square to the wind and would've been more manageable. A storm jib would also be welcome to keep the boat balanced. Once they got back to running after the knockdown, that sort of speed looked like they were risking a pitchpole. The smaller aforementioned sailplan then makes a heave-to possible, at least long enough to come up with a new plan.
Crew was lucky. Obviously in way over their heads for this level of weather. Interesting to see the helmsman only decided to clip on his safety harness after the snap gybe. Glad to see that all got back to port safe.
The guy working the pit was standing in the companionway, improving their sail handling ability. Closing the hatch would have put a major hindrance on them. Other than the gybe, they did an excellent job.
Scary, no doubt, but not a lot of sea. Experienced the same thing between Bermuda and the Azores. The jibe was not due to a helmsman error, the wind swirls around and you can't really protect your self from it unless tightly sheeted.
Hey everyone. This happened in a matter of a few seconds. You literally see the wind pick up a huge amount in two seconds. Don't judge. Most of us would be screwed as well, and make a lot of mistakes. Just learn, as they probably did.
Suddenly being overpowered? Sure, that shit can happen to even the best. Not pointing up to reduce sail and then UNINTENTIONALLY gybing? Nope, nopety, nope nope. That's an absolute self disqualification right there.
@@aukword6255 There was many reports of wind speed going from 25 knots to 60+ knots AND 180 degree wind shifts in a few seconds. It is easy to suddenly gybe then. No one in their right mind goes into the wind in 60+ knots. The flapping sails will rip in seconds as happened to many contestants. The only thing you can do is run. Only thing they could have done differently would be to fly a storm jib only, which would have prevented the boat from broaching to weather, and allowed them to run in basically any wind.
Engine on, head into prevailing wind, haul the boom towards centerline, attempt to reef or dowse the main. None of this was done. The crew and helmsman essentially froze and waited for a wind direction or course direction change that could put both the mast and the crew at risk. This video documents stunning incompetence. There are no legitimate excuses for this. The bad weather was likely very visible on radar and undoubtedly could be seen approaching - squalls don't "sneak up" on a boat that's traveling 10 mph. These people likely had several minutes to size up what they were heading into and take necessary steps to safeguard themselves and the rigging. They did neither. In a lot of these cases, people that should know better keep on "racing" when they should be immediately engaging "self preservation mode" for themselves and their vessel.
These hands are very lucky....They did not see the front building up? The art and science of Reefing seems alien to the crew. Companionway wide open. Safety harness coming on late, Could have ended much worse but lady luck was with them. Offshore sailors have to be expert at reading weather and taking measures before the situation becomes critical.
I'm no sailor, but the main sheet gets tangled on the steering and so dude whose head almost got taken off by the boom turns his back on the boom to untangle the steering?
Dude bros! Seriously? Just because you can afford a nice boat doesn't mean you have the experience. Just in the short video I see at least 4 almost serious fatalities. You put rescuers in danger because you decided to not just roll up and wait it out. Glad you all made it back..
Noob question here. When a squall hits is the right reaction to: a. Release the sheet and let the main sail fluff. B. Head into the wind (at least beam reach) so you allow the sail to fluff (which is almost impossible when youre in broad reach/dead run)
if you manage to head into the wind is ideal, because you have less stress on mast and shrouds. However, in those situation heading up can be difficult and makes the boat listing a lot. I have been in a similar situation and the helmsman decided to go downwind with full main (we managed to take down the spi but it was impossible to reef)
Не понятно почему нет рифов и нельзя уменьшить площадь паруса. Сначала шли в бейдевинд, потом сделали поворот фордевинд - очень странно. Я в такой ситуации держу лодку круто к ветру , оттяжка должна быть отдана, чтобы грот мог сбросить порывы. Двигаюсь или стою на части парусов. Молодцы .Смогли снять, в такую погоду не до съёмок. И спокойствие мне понравилось. Крутят там, зачем-то лебёдки и едут потихоньку куда-то.
Likely were in the process of dropping the main when the squall hit. When it hits 60 knots it might be better that some of the sail was still up. No way they could lash the entire sail to the boom once the sh*t hit the fan. But WOuld have thought they would have done it earlier. But I gather it went from 12 knots to 60 knots in a a couple of minutes.
Going forward lets have these titles just state "gale force winds". I'm so sick of all these bathtub sailors saying, "that's not (x) amount of wind! Blah, blah, blah" Its so tiresome
Le type sous la baume, en vent arrière totalement inconscient à ne pas s attendre à l empanage sauvage. Il a eu de la chance de ne pas être KO voir pire.
Master Class in incompetence:
Main Trimmer, sitting like a bump on a log.
Driver not paying attention to wind direction.
Rest of crew attempting the impossible (reefing a main under full load)
Companion way hatch wide open with wind and seas from behind.
This video should be required watching for all new crews thinking of participating in ocean sailing as a what not to do.
Well said. No attempt of slacking off the mainsail and reefing properly.
And then an accidental gybe…..
Hello, everyone,
I’m a coastal sailor with no experience in offshore heavy weather sailing. Please tell me what you would do in this situation. I would put the boat on a close-hauled course, use a reefed jib sail (if there is no storm jib), and completely lower the mainsail.
If you have experience with heavy weather sailing, please share it with me; I would love to learn. Thanks!
@@amajstrenko if possible reef the main sail more early. drive against the wind and reef the main sail, use your engine, if not possible use storm fock for "heaving to"
Happy to see your film, it mean that you survive
This would have been my action plan:
1. revalue my abilities and my crew's (clearly not great)
2. at 50 knots, go head to wind.
3. pull down the main.
4. securely tie down the mainsail
5. securely centralise the boom
6. tidy the deck.
7. send as many crew as possible into the cabin given the lightning
8. turn on engine and head for the closest port given the wind directions and strength.
There is nothing embarrassing about abandoning a race and avoiding injury and boat damage.
Engine not necessary once you have done all the above to ride out squall as safely as possible. In a race it would also DQ yourself. I would deep reef upon seeing the approaching weather. And consider fore reaching, assuming my tack line is upwind. On the run, the deep reef gives them plenty of sail square to the wind and would've been more manageable. A storm jib would also be welcome to keep the boat balanced. Once they got back to running after the knockdown, that sort of speed looked like they were risking a pitchpole. The smaller aforementioned sailplan then makes a heave-to possible, at least long enough to come up with a new plan.
Crew was lucky. Obviously in way over their heads for this level of weather. Interesting to see the helmsman only decided to clip on his safety harness after the snap gybe. Glad to see that all got back to port safe.
Besides not gybing might have been a good idea to close the companionway
Well they were pretty surprised by the gybe. Heads were dangerously high up!
Clearly not a planned gybe...
The guy working the pit was standing in the companionway, improving their sail handling ability. Closing the hatch would have put a major hindrance on them. Other than the gybe, they did an excellent job.
The Bayesian crew approves.
Jeez.. not sure I'd want to sail Offshore with that Crew.. 😵💫
Oh my God! What a nightmare. Glad that you arrived finally save in the harbour!
Very strong mast guys
Big Dude was lucky the mainsail telegraphed it's gibe
Scary, no doubt, but not a lot of sea. Experienced the same thing between Bermuda and the Azores. The jibe was not due to a helmsman error, the wind swirls around and you can't really protect your self from it unless tightly sheeted.
1:27 look at the horizont and waves - he did turn right
and no attempt to turn wheel left
Those lines look deadly. So does that technique.
Hey everyone. This happened in a matter of a few seconds. You literally see the wind pick up a huge amount in two seconds. Don't judge. Most of us would be screwed as well, and make a lot of mistakes. Just learn, as they probably did.
perfect considerations
Suddenly being overpowered? Sure, that shit can happen to even the best.
Not pointing up to reduce sail and then UNINTENTIONALLY gybing? Nope, nopety, nope nope. That's an absolute self disqualification right there.
@@aukword6255 There was many reports of wind speed going from 25 knots to 60+ knots AND 180 degree wind shifts in a few seconds. It is easy to suddenly gybe then. No one in their right mind goes into the wind in 60+ knots. The flapping sails will rip in seconds as happened to many contestants. The only thing you can do is run. Only thing they could have done differently would be to fly a storm jib only, which would have prevented the boat from broaching to weather, and allowed them to run in basically any wind.
@hummesse 1:29 a boat going to windward?
Watch the green flag above the helmsman. No sudden wind shift. In fact, sailing by the lee the whole time....
I believe no one was scanning the water surface...
What is with the sloppy main reef setup ?
Probably putting in the process of dropping the main when the quall hit. At that point it's just hold on.
Underpowered.. need to bag it out a bit.. 😅
Almost impossible to get the main halyard back on with the pressure in the main running downwind. Glad no heads hit on the gybe 🙈
@@verbatim1144 😂😂😂👍🏻
Intentionally scandalized, or just said F-it after taking in the reef, if you can call it that.
Engine on, head into prevailing wind, haul the boom towards centerline, attempt to reef or dowse the main. None of this was done. The crew and helmsman essentially froze and waited for a wind direction or course direction change that could put both the mast and the crew at risk. This video documents stunning incompetence. There are no legitimate excuses for this. The bad weather was likely very visible on radar and undoubtedly could be seen approaching - squalls don't "sneak up" on a boat that's traveling 10 mph. These people likely had several minutes to size up what they were heading into and take necessary steps to safeguard themselves and the rigging. They did neither. In a lot of these cases, people that should know better keep on "racing" when they should be immediately engaging "self preservation mode" for themselves and their vessel.
Wow, real juicy 'cf' there! A greater power smiled on the incompetent on THAT day!
What a video! Hope your all ok
Very lucky that no one hurt …….. phew 😮
One of those ooops moments...
Niedergang offen, Groß auf halbacht, Patenthalse….wer hat die denn losgeschickt?
What a great crew. So calm.
That's a lot of force. Lucky they didn't break something.. or someone.
Broke the mfd pod at the helm. You can see it come apart at the end
Drop the main n host a storm job
why the main?
sudden gust, no time to do much except reef as much as could
For few centimeters there was a MOB
…or head overboard
Body bag...
ITT classic sailor comments: "You're doing it wrong"
These hands are very lucky....They did not see the front building up? The art and science of Reefing seems alien to the crew. Companionway wide open. Safety harness coming on late, Could have ended much worse but lady luck was with them. Offshore sailors have to be expert at reading weather and taking measures before the situation becomes critical.
Helmsman unaware of the gybe tells you everything you need to know.
They seemed to come out ok
It was really tough fordewind 🙈🙈🙈
Just heave to and wait for it to calm down
Why not pointing into the wind and take the punishment on the nose? This gybe was sheer horror
And rip the mainsail in seconds. Sometimes is better to avoid such "clever" suggestions
@@goraninox controlled unloading main - veer left.
one crew to the mast - pull down and drop main.
feed halyard up manually.
downwind use jib not main
Oming about would be next on impossible and they ae making good downwind
panic on board, missing control of the boat...hope every one was okey..
I'm no sailor, but the main sheet gets tangled on the steering and so dude whose head almost got taken off by the boom turns his back on the boom to untangle the steering?
Dude bros! Seriously? Just because you can afford a nice boat doesn't mean you have the experience. Just in the short video I see at least 4 almost serious fatalities. You put rescuers in danger because you decided to not just roll up and wait it out.
Glad you all made it back..
Big deal.
Reef the main properly.
That's truly not even THAT windy.
Jeasch.
He should have spliced the main brace 😂
I learn't years ago that wearing the hood on a wind breaker in such situations was asking for trouble, limited vision, I have the scares to prove it.
You would expect better seamanship. 4 guys, 1 sail up. Could have ended a life.
Should they be out there?....
_NO!_
When you are not able to manage your sails with 5 men in these conditions, maybe you should golf or play rummikub 😅
No way to get that main down, even with hanks. actually a bolt rope may have been easier.
Noob question here. When a squall hits is the right reaction to: a. Release the sheet and let the main sail fluff.
B. Head into the wind (at least beam reach) so you allow the sail to fluff (which is almost impossible when youre in broad reach/dead run)
if you manage to head into the wind is ideal, because you have less stress on mast and shrouds. However, in those situation heading up can be difficult and makes the boat listing a lot. I have been in a similar situation and the helmsman decided to go downwind with full main (we managed to take down the spi but it was impossible to reef)
V v dangerous gybe
You do not jibe in these conditions. Ever.
Scary incompetence....
The fact that the race organizer is promoting this is scary.
Не понятно почему нет рифов и нельзя уменьшить площадь паруса. Сначала шли в бейдевинд, потом сделали поворот фордевинд - очень странно. Я в такой ситуации держу лодку круто к ветру , оттяжка должна быть отдана, чтобы грот мог сбросить порывы. Двигаюсь или стою на части парусов.
Молодцы .Смогли снять, в такую погоду не до съёмок. И спокойствие мне понравилось. Крутят там, зачем-то лебёдки и едут потихоньку куда-то.
Рифы взяты. Бейдевинда не было - был броучинг. В гонке идут не в бейдевинд, а куда надо.
@@yurybolotin1632 Если вы там были, объясните, пожалуйста, что накручивает матрос в красном непромоканце.
Впервые слышу о брочинге под одним гротом..
@@ЕвгенияУральская-г6в почему нет, стаксель действует против брочинга
только то и "cмогли снять" потому что не мешали камере.
и поворот не делали, он сам
поворот при 60 делать нельзя вообще
Auuuuuuu
Get that helmsman off the wheel. He's ailing way too deep and not paying sufficient attention!
Sorry, but the main setup is a mess.
Likely were in the process of dropping the main when the squall hit. When it hits 60 knots it might be better that some of the sail was still up. No way they could lash the entire sail to the boom once the sh*t hit the fan. But WOuld have thought they would have done it earlier. But I gather it went from 12 knots to 60 knots in a a couple of minutes.
...headless horseman🌬💋
This was probably caused due to their water bottles being tied to the windward guard rail
Those are water bottles
It’s a mast killer
Yeah....nah!!!!!
Bring it into the wind to reef it…..
Going forward lets have these titles just state "gale force winds".
I'm so sick of all these bathtub sailors saying, "that's not (x) amount of wind! Blah, blah, blah"
Its so tiresome
Plus à l'aise sans la grand-voile et juste un peu de foc.
FFS!....
всякой шняги на леерах развесили
Le type sous la baume, en vent arrière totalement inconscient à ne pas s attendre à l empanage sauvage. Il a eu de la chance de ne pas être KO voir pire.
Don’t gyre the main 🤪
Ma guarda quella randa 😂😂 professionisti 😂😂😂