Canon Rebel T8i (850D) - The best selling camera no one will care about
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2020
- In the world of mirrorless, is there still a place for entry level DSLRs?
Canon T8i
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"Do not get that lens
You're welcome"
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Well the jole is you could pick up all three versions of the efs18-55 ever made for about a 150$
.....same 18-55 that came with the others,like the 5,6,7,as part of the whole kit???
"It's like comparing cars and deciding which one can get to the grocery store faster" - this had me rolling on the floor laughing! Too funny. Great analogy though, but still hilarious.
Yeah that was pretty funny ... got the point across well too. 😂
It reminds me of people on motorcycle forums arguing nonstop about what brand is the fastest when not a single one of them could ever possibly take any of the bikes to their limits.
The Rebel series is so much fun. I’ve since moved on to M4/3 for better dedicated crop lenses and video features, but I learnt so much shooting my SL1&2 and my friend’s 70D. These cameras always fly off shelves as a sweet spot of price for beginners and photography students, as well as those needing a second body.
Love the analogies, the overview clarity, the honest assessment of this camera and the market in generally. Superb. Thanks !
Thanks for your review. I got a T7 a few months ago to get started and I've been happy with it. You validated my decision in the 9-minute area. Thanks for the details too, I'm a numbers person and definitely appreciate your details.
Outside of all the camera talk, your tip on ordering wine at restaurants is a true gem. Thanks for that! Haha! And while I considered getting the T8i for a long time (upgrading from an SL2 - 24fps _does_ mean something to me), I instead put a few more dollars up and copped a used C100, which I am absolutely loving. Great video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
thank you for the comparison to other objects "cars, wine" I was able to make the connections so much easier than other videos out there
You have a wonderful channel. A group of friends and I have all been planning on doing a short movie, and taking great photos, and your channel has been immensely informative and helpful when deciding what camera/lenses I should be going for!
Nice to see someone reviewing a stills camera as a still camera rather than complaining continuously about the video specs. My only issue with the rebel line is the lack of Autofocus Micro Adjustment. Could be a real pain if you buy something like a 50mm 1.8 STM or 85mm 1.8. I've never actually experienced an AF misadjustment but I know it's a real possiblilty when purchasing a new lens.
Good for you in reviewing this type of camera because you are quite right, whatever the brand, the 'noise' is always about what are "Halo" products that very few people will actually buy or frankly need. The two DSLRs I use most are my 7D MkII and 5DS both of which are now 6 year old designs but I'm not a professional photographer and can get all I need from them and as I have the matching EF glass really don't feel tempted currently. Keep up the good work, like your output.
I'm still rocking my T3i and it's perfectly good for my amateur vacation pictures. I got a Tamron 18-400 lens that is amazing for it's versatility, a nice Canon macro lens, and a good Rokinon wide angle lens. I can take pretty much any beginner-level picture I want, but at some point, if I upgrade or need to replace my camera, I'm probably gonna stick with a Rebel :)
I like your straight forward common sense way of reviewing cameras.
LOL I like the warning in the beginning.. 😄Always on point with these cameras!
Thanks, I am upgrading from a T3i and being deciding for a while between the 90D and T8i.
I've seen several reviews on both and this is the one that really help.
Thanks
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I love your reviews! You're helping lots of newbies like me..thanks.
I started off with the 650D, and I absolutely loved it. Paired it up with a 50mm 1.8 and that's what I learned on. Used it for years and I loved it.
Was there a difference between the EF & RF 50mm 1.8 lense ? Which one did u get ?
@@davidcapistran2832 No I just kept using the EF 50mm because it still just works perfectly even though it’s been through everything. I tested the RF version and there is a difference in image quality sure but nothing drastic.
I started with the same camera :) finally thinking to move to r6 mk2
These cameras sell because they get the job done.
You have a very unbiased and analytical mindset.
You would be good as a Manager at any company you might work for.
Btw, your camera uploads are the best at explaining which camera offers which features.
Unbiased I agree👆🏽
I'm a beginner, and I found your video very easy to understand, with useful information. Thank you
I have a t4i and it has been great. I have used it for both photography and video for all sorts of projects. The video is 1080p at 30fps. I still break it out for doing quick videos. They way I have it set up it produces a soft deep-color film look rather than harsh video. The result is kind of retro, which is very pleasing.
whats your settings?
I have a Rebel T6 (not T6i) as my first and only dslr I own, looks like this is perfect for me esp when taking this on a hike.
Struggling with T7i/SL3/T8i and this review was about as unbiased and objective as I have seen. Appreciate it. Love all the analogies :D I am a Toyota kind of guy.
I'm in a similar boat lol.
May I ask what you decided on, and why?
Me too
As someone who bought their first DSLR in 2020 (a Pentax KP--same price as the T8i, and the kit lens is weather resistant, so not pointless!), I obviously think there's a place for fairly entry DSLRs. Basically, given phones, most folks don't need cameras to create images. What a camera offers is *process*. Manual control. Selection of lens (with a reach that phones can't match). But that's all true of Mirrorless as well.
DSLR over Mirrorless offers the physicality of an optical viewfinder. If I just have a mirrorless camera, and I'm looking at a digital screen, that's fine for creating an image. But the DSLR offers light--pure light through the lens delivered to my eye. While reflected by mirrors and prisms, it's not converted into electrons and twisted about by microprocessors.
If you're not going to enjoy the process, this probably isn't the right hobby for you. For me, looking through a real optical viewfinder just makes my eye happy.
This camera is a workhorse. I did so much with the t7i. Def under-rated. Top recommendation for beginners and intermediate shooters
I love my T8i. I have a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and a Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary lens and they work great with it.
As a Rebel T7i user I appreciate your time to make this review
I just bought a T8i upgrading from my old T6i (my 1st Rebel was the XTi) I have been shooting tethered with my T6i since 2017 and I had to ditch the cord and go wireless. I mainly shoot product photography and have a dedicated area w/continuous lighting and many backdrops. And I always order the best wine because I don't like "swill". Thanks for the video!
Right now I have. T2i, T7i and M6MK2. The T7i was the first in the T series with decent autofocus. Im keeping the T2i because of Magic Lantern.
I’m not a Canon guy, but your video title got my attention. Your a great informational tech guru, and you have peeked my interest on these Canon cameras. Love your comparison of camera quality to how fast you can get to the store, and these models being kind of like buying a Honda, rather than a Tesla. Great video!
Thank you for this! Super helpful as we try to decide on a camera
I started on a T2i because my favorite animator Kirsten Lepore used it, then I went to T6i, I will still buy this just because it’s so important to me as a tool of creative growth, even though I have Sony A7RIII
June 2020 and just bought a 2nd hand 5Dii, like brand new only 7k clicks... 2nd hand prices are now fabulous ... great value for money (just over £400).
I decided for something that has been heavily used by pro photographers over a prolonged time but still at a bargain price. This body is good enough for 95% of my needs, I used the 5Dii over a few weeks under various conditions such as low-light /sun /rain /indoors /outdoors etc and this 5Dii is still a VERY capable camera.
Since I'm mainly a stills-image shooter who shot for around 25 years (pre-digital as well) and I have very little interest in video, so I'm looking forward to use it for many years to come and even use it for some paid jobs.
I'm not shooting sports and don't need exceptional crazy frame rates. Auto focus is good enough if you use the center spot only and I also find RAW files up to ISO 3200 to be good enough to sell to wedding clients if you use good lenses (might need a SLIGHT noise reduction in Lightroom on a few occasions). Normally its only photographers who pixel-peep, clients are more focused on moments and emotions instead of technicality.
Also, try to put some outside perspective into our consumer society where we are tricked into getting new gear/upgrades all the time. It was not that long ago Professionals used EOS-D1 for their corporate work and created fantastic images displayed on large billboards. The list-price for D1 on release was around 6500 Dollars even though the resolution was a meagre 4 MegaPixel only, but still photographers managed to generate fantastic photos on such small resolution.
Some of the best + most historical images we seen are pre-digital, taken using a camera which literally was a box with a piece of glass in the front without any technology.
Today people are buying cameras that are more powerful than the computer that took humanity to the moon in the 1960s... AND they cost as much as a second-hand car!!!!
Even so, we often still see generic photos that could have been taken with any consumer camera.
That's the only real way to get into this hobby. But if everyone knows about this... Then there won't be any good cameras out there for the rest of us. 😄
Like I said for the 700$ or so needed to pick up an 850D. You could instead have a 5D Mark II, and a 70-200 L Series Lens. Non stabilized of course.
Honestly with the death of the DLSR, and Phones that can shot RAW, at as many 100s of Megapixels. I'm not sure brands like Canon, or Nikon even have a future. Other then in their lenses that is.
I own a T7i and it is great. I just wish I had held off on buying it with the expensive $450 dollar upgraded kit lens. Would have bought a Sig17-55 a and a Nifty for fun. However, the 18-135 is all I have so I have made the best of it. I have noticed that the more I use it and practice the better my images turn out. Love the cam.
You explained this video so well, like the example you made.
I have the T7i. I love it. Looks like the T8i is about the same with, I assume, the new processor so probably just as good or a little better. And nothing I know of tops the duel pixel auto focus!
Such a great video I want to step up my quality on my stop motion animations so this really helped 😀
Haha that warning notification on the kit lens tho
If you are interested to hear why I bought the 850D/t8i, it is pretty easy. I got into photography a year ago (and since half a year intensively). I first shot with a 4000D as an entry camera. I’m working up to more expensive cameras but as I’m not a professional the really good ones are too expensive. So what do you do? The 850D is a good stepping stone to find out what way I want to venture, do I like filming or rather take pictures, do I prefer sports photography or landscapes? Maybe I’ll go FF after this or a smaller upgrade after this. I’m pretty happy with this camera, when I upgrade I’ll sell the 850D for one that’d suit me better.
I would switch to a Sony a7r. Much better camera than most canons and its only 650 bucks
Honestly.. this is the best review I've seen for the entry-level Canon DSLRs in 2020. I've looked at every spec and compared everything available to the T7 I currently have. I want an upgrade (as well as a 2nd body so my wife and I can shoot together and share gear), but don't feel there's enough value in the 90D to warrant the price. Thank you! Subscribing!!
Really appreciate the straightforward review, and how you made a point of talking about what most people will actually buy!
I'm trying to decide between the T8i and the 90D at the moment...
What did you decide on? I am torn as well..
Dang... now you got me thinking about the 90D... decisions, decisions... thank you my man!
I have the 800d/t7i which is most often paired with a sigma 30mm f1.4. images are great.
Great video with more than enough information to make a choice on this camera!
I have the canon EOS M50 and I love it I wouldn't upgrade or downgrade to anything else
I honestly was hoping they would start an official mirrorless RF mount Rebel series. Something simular to the EOS RP. But slightly smaller body and still resemble the Ti series.
They could include the EF adapter as a bonus and still ship models with the 18-55 Kit lens. Or they could design a simular cheap RF Kit Lens for it. It would help push the new EOS R line of mirrorless cameras and help push sales of the RF mount. A great example is my friend who had a T6 and she went and bought the L glass 2000.00 doller 75-200mm lens for it. Her photos looked fantastic despite the cheap camera body. I sold her my 80D in January and then bought myself the 90D this year.
I still love my 80D ... its advantage over the others is the 1/8000th of a second shutter speed which comes in mighty handy shooting bright sunny days while using HS sync and really wide apertures
The T5i (700D) is so popular, and yes I have one, that you can still get a brand new full function battery grip (Neewer) for it.
I have T2i, works just great. I bought canon m10 for 150$ for portability.
Great video, this was what I was looking for.
i asked for a rebel t6i in 2018 lol. still working really nicely to this day though. although sometimes i wish i had asked for a t5i because magic lantern basically turns it into a cinema camera as far as im concerned
I still have a 400D, and with a good lens the pics are great.
I have a T5i and I'm still very happy with it. I don't get the point of buying a camera every couple of years. Same for laptops, cell phones and many electronic devices. Most of the time, planned obsolescence is in our head...
The T4i was my first DSLR. Shot some nice pics and lots of great video with it. I didn't even know there was a t8i. The m50 is a much better value, but I can understand that it may be somewhat hard to hold for some.
their i series are really good. the t3i i had since 2013 still takes very nice photos like it's brand new
still using the SL2, even though I've only had it for about a year and 9 months, it's been very reliable
Ive been shooting with 600d since 2010, when I got the GH4 I still use the 600D to date. 1080 is not created equally but heck, youtube can only accept 8mbps for 1080p
T7i here and I love it still
I have had the T2i since 2010 I think...I just upgraded this year to a Fujifilm Xt4 lol.
And the only reason I decided to upgrade was because I wanted more video options.
I feel you! I've had the t2i until I snapped the flash off while filming...don't ask how LOL but I went with the ZcamE2
Honestly, love my t2i😂. It’s still my only camera, and I’ve been a full time photographer since 2015😂😂
@@MoncriefsThat's awesome. Just bought a T8i today, what photoshop editing do you recommend?
i have a Canon t2i. for 1080p on a tripod it works GREAT. nice glass makes a HUGE difference with all Canon DSLRs.
it would be nice to go mirrorless in 2020 however so i can run around with a rig and use my EF and EF-S lenses. i suppose a mirrorless camera with an adapter would work.
We use our T3i and the 77D for the simple facts that these Canon's get the job done.
1.Reliability
2.Quality
3.Dependability
4.Cost of investment
We started with the Canon 400D ( Kiss ) 10.1mp GREAT PHOTOGRAPHY CAMERA!
then went to the T1i
Then T2i.
Canon will never let you down.
My T5i is still my back up photography camera. The Rebel series is reliable as hell
same here
Intending on getting this for a range of uses ie; studio,scenery and at sporting events...is it a good workhorse?
Sold my t5i back in 2017, i regret selling soo much
@@justus4331 sorry to hear that.
What kind of Camera do you have now?
@@egorxeke3465 my husband got the t8i 5 months ago for my birthday. So far so good! I love how it’s not too big and it is lighter compared to the t5i
Watched this and somehow I started a walk down memory lane... back in the day of 1000D
Don't know about that one, but I have to say the 1100D is still a hellova good camera. Though I prefer to use the 40D at this time.
Hi friend! I just found your channel! Amazing content! Keep it up! 👍
I'm between the T8i and the 90D my only issue with T8i is like you said it won't focus on a face when recording. I hate how they can't put everything on one. This video was helpful.
They did that for the same reason Nikon took away features from the d7500: it won't compete with the higher end cameras like the d500
Love the metaphors 👌🏻
Good title!
800D + cheap lenses, no brainer, everyday camera.
And kit lenses are good, even if I prefer EF lenses, though efs 24 2.8 is one of the best.
I have a t8i and bought it because the 90D was not out yet, and the t8i was pretty much just as good as the 80D for my purposes. I have the 18-55 lens because it came with the camera along with several other lenses. I really like the t8i because it allows me to get pretty good photos without spending an arm and a leg to get it. Anyway, I appreciate your review.
hi, i really want to know which has better image quality and settings options, 80d or new t8i? I'm struggling between this two and don't know which to choose :( Im wondering is there any difference between AF and other futures, are the same? Tnx
I'm not a professional photographer but I use my camera to shoot product, lifestyle, portrait and video--I've been using a T3i since 2013 (it was old then) and finally have hit a point where I can upgrade. I really appreciate this non-judgmental review that makes it clear that while this isn't the most fantastic, professional level, fancy camera out there--it will totally work for what I need, and it has great features for someone who is working the way I do, and when I'm ready to upgrade again, I'll watch your reviews first! Thank you.
That's good to hear! Have you upgraded yet?
@@egorxeke3465 yes I bought the t8i and it is perfect for the work I do!
@@hannahbelleknits That's awesome! Do you have a website page where I can see your work? I just bought a T8i today as well, I'm not a professional photographer but love to take pictures.
@@egorxeke3465 yes! You can check me out on IG as @hannahbelleknits and I also have a video on my channel, and my website is www.hannahthiessen.com - I have also done some video work for Knomad yarns and I think you’d find that on their site or IG feed.
@@hannahbelleknits Awesome I will be checking out your work! I bet you are really good at it.
Great review, very helpful and informative 🙌
Really insightful content. Subbed.
I’ve worked with everything from old Nikon f3’s, canon 1D’s even old Leica rangefinders. You know what I have in my bag now? (Besides some very good glass) a t2i and a t7i. They work well and get the job done. Are they amazing? Nope. But 250 at 5.6 is the same on any camera. Point the thing at something you find interesting and don’t worry about what the camera is.
Best review i watch yet. Thanks
💯about the kit lens.
Very helpful video, thank you!
I really like your videos! This camera (as every Canon DSLR with Dual Pixel AF) is a beast on budget. I am using an 800D (T7i) and I love it! But I disagree with your opinion about the kit lens in the beginning of the video. It a common misconception that kit lenses are bad. Are not! Especially Canon kit lenses are maybe the best in the industry and the latest 18-55 f/4-5.6 IS STM is brilliant for genres like landscape or street photography where sharpness and deep DoF are preferable over light gathering or bokeh. I have done some of my best work on that lens and no one (photographer or not) was able to guess the lens… they all thought it was L series or Sigma Art! Sure, there are way better and pricier lenses but for the target group of that camera everything better would be overkill. It’s better to spent that extra 150$ for the kit lens instead of spending another 500 or 600$ for a lens that will be too much. And if you have to spent that extra money, do it on learning process or for getting in a nice place to shoot…
I have the t7 and I must say my biggest complaint is the work I have to put in to simply change my ISO and the fact that the scrolly thingy only works for the aperture and shutter speed. I wish the controls were a little bit easier. Great vid❤️
yeah, i think the cheapest canon DSLR camera with lot of controls right now is the eos 77d.
Put ISO on auto Then go into your menu setting and set max ISO to 1600 so it does not go pass that level unless you want it to. Try that little trick I think it will serve you well.
2 40d bodies, a t2i, and a 60d here. :)
I dont like replacing things until they break. the OLLLLD 40d bodies still working fine.
love to have newest bodies etc. but,,
I love that warning against buying that kit lens hahaha
mrksetn same!
thank you, great perspective.
still rocking a t5i myself. I do with it had in body stabilization as I dont have a lens that does. I use a niffty 50 and a the kit. but I'd like something more for clarity
Great review! Thankyou! 😊
I’m still rockin’ the T1i...damn.
Me too, works fine
t3i pal here
Great review. Thank you.
Cheaper, low end cameras have one aspect that noone seems to talk about in this type of videos. Just as in the film era, the photographic industry has gone to such a state nowadays that every company sells you roughly the same machine at the price point you are targeting. So, if we ignore some specialized needs, the lenses become the main differentiator between brands. So, now we have so many great cheap older cameras that can serve as "digital backs" for lenses.
You could get 2 or perhaps even 3, if you want, cheap consumer cameras second hand instead of one high end all-rounder new, and associate every body to its own lens or just a few lenses. You can compensate for many ergonomic issues of consumer bodies by restricting settings you change to 1 to 3 key items. This is quite feasible under the "digital back" setup. This strategy allows you pick the most desirable lenses (the criteria are up to you) even from different brands and/or across sensor sizes - but watch over for the cognitive dissonance going between brands (that one depends on you).
😂 I’m one of those ppl! I”m totally spanking new at photography. Learning, learning. :-)
great video .. on the consumer side .. thank you
It is just like choosing a car for food shopping, just pick the one you like more and want to actually drive
T5I owner here. Still very happy with mine.
Just sold my T6 to get the T5i, and so glad I did.
Best bet if you know what to look for, imo is still used 70-80D or t7i
T3i here :)
Samesies
That was my first DSLR I gave it to my daughter. I use the 90D now and a 5D mark III. I actually love the 18-55mm kit lens that came with my T3i. I still use it on my 90D from time to time.
Schardt Cinematic Productions full frame! Nice!
My first cam
T2i enters the chat..
I still have my t2i. Works great.
What will be your choice if you compare it with Fujifilms XT 30 ? Please suggest, Thanks
I have the t7i, and it's a great camera.
I would like to upgrade to have a better/bigger OVF, better battery life, and more AF options. So i'm thinking of a good 80D secondhand
They’re having a refurbished sale at canon usa. I saw some 80Ds around $6-700
Lol I’m still shooting on a 5D classic, gives my images that film feel my customers love.
Still my all time favorite camera
My T7i is the last Rebel I will ever buy. I now have the M6 Mark II and I'm not looking back. I've had several Rebels starting with the XTi and because Canon removed the battery grip option I felt miffed. But I must say that the T7i was a great DSLR and I'm sure that the T8i is at least as good. It didn't seem to be worth upgrading which is why I went with the M6MK2.
Been using the SL2/200D for a couple years now and it's excellent. You can get over the limitations and the smaller design is a good thing for me. I'm from Europe, so 25 to 24 fps isn't a HUGE difference, but I'm a stills kind of guy. The OVF's 9 point AF is a bit limiting but you can use liveview or focus and recompose, I guess.
Yeah, considering the 5D mark i & ii had 9 point AF, I think most people can live with it haha
Can't you change the "Video System" setting on the camera between PAL and NTSC? Or is that just on my 70D?
@@thenotsookayguy I can, but I prefer 25/50 over 24/30/60 lol
@@Diogo-fk3xn Heh, nice.
I would be pretty tempted to get that camera if it had 30fps 4K. I'll definitely be looking into the 90D now, though.
Look at the 250D (SL3). It has cropped 4K but if you want to shave of the price a bit, thats a solid choice to go for if 4K is a must have. I have the one down, the 200D, and its a really solid but still really small camera and the footage out of it is great for its price range.
@@CasuallyTrash why would you recommend that from a 90d. A 90d is a much better camera, its not even a comparison
@@jeepjoseph9036 yeah I know it is but given that this was commented on a video about a budget oriented camera, I figured OP was trying to find a budget 4K camera so I recommended the 250D. The 90D is the dream APSC camera but it will also run you a fair bit more than the rebel lineup.
very strong presentation. nice work
Ergonomics is the biggest reason I am not going mirrorless yet. I like a good grip that I can hang on to, and most mirrorless ones are just way small. if they were to make a mirrorless that basically was the same size and shape as a DSLR, I'd jump. Hell, use the extra space for a bigger battery.
Still use my 550D and have fun with it 😃
I can't find any difference between that camera and Rebel T5.
For where I'm from, the Canon 80D is way cheaper than Canon 850D (T8i).
I'm still sticking to Canon T7i as my 1st camera!
Have my t7i, absolutely more than enough! Will keep it for 2-3 years
@@kavinsuresh5468 You can probably keep it and use it well even 6-7 years from now.
you guys shouldn't be upgrading from 1 rebel to the next (unless your previous rebel broke) when you upgrade you should jump out of the rebel series and go to their intermediate or even pro level cameras based on your budget
@@theotakuGamer7640 depends on the camera and the glass. The t6s replaced the 77d
Honestly go Sony alpha. I'm sorry but canon is a joke until you get to the 1dx