EXCLUSIVE Interview with Shanda VanderArks's sister, Paige | Gaining Insight into Shanda's Past
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Paige honey Paul took great pride in hurting Timothy and having power. He bullied and abused Timothy before and that's why Paul was locked out of Eric's. Paige I truly wish you could see Paul is just as bad if not worse than Shanda. They acted like a married couple with thousands of texts while each was taking joy in what they did.
Because by following Shanda’s instructions Paul wad being given preferential treatment it’s not right by any means but I get it
Paul even suggested some of the abuse!! imhp I think both are psychopaths! No emotion no empathy could make it through court without being disgusted with one’s self!!
@@mj4173 you didn't see the txt messages did you. On several occasions paul wanted to beat on Timothy, but shanda stopped him.
@@mj4173yes....he wanted to play video games and watch anime all day...all he had to do was keep his pesky dishwasher job
I agree!! Paul is everything is mother is just younger! He took great pride in hurting that precious little man!! I hope he gets in prison the exact same treatment that he gave Timothy
They talk alike. The sound of the voice, the cadence, mannerisms etc.
I can see that but the big difference is she has a heart and soul. Pretty sure Shanda doesnt have either
And they all seem to like Dr. Pepper!? But Paige has a good heart.💜
I think she has a look of Paul. She's a straight talking woman and she would have been a great mum to Timothy 😢 ❤
@@user-kt7jc9br8y I agree. I think she is someone I could be friends with. Thats saying a lot because while I have a lot of female acquaintances there is only a couple I let in my circle because it seems most just thrive on crap ive zero interest in. Maybe im jaded because i had seven older brothers but i swear if you get more than a couple chicks together there will be some type of drama
@@Serenitynow958 oh hahaha i thought it was beer....with the pinkie finger up
Paige could be referred to as a 'truth teller' from a psychological point of view being able to see the fundamental truth from a young age. Unfortunately, this personality type can end up the scapegoat for the narcissist mother because the BS won't work on them; while Shonda would be perceived as the 'golden child' by enabling the mother's delusions therefore control.
I saw those dynamics too. Once you learn about narcissistic abuse it becomes quite clear how these dysfunctional families operate.
Look her and Derek up! She a methy piece of art
@@DeepDive-n00I've never done meth dude. Smoked cigarettes, yes but no meth or anything close. Get your facts straight.
@@PaigeClark-uj3zq I do believe you..And it was brave to speak on the internet about your personal life..as a stranger I cant even understand why I spend so much time to understand all this.. But really I think your grandma should never be a mother, even with her money, she was not fit.. to raise a child..Your sence or humour , is also telling. Take care..I hope you are not a "haunted" family.
Thank you. I do wish the family dynamics had been better but sometimes you just have to take what life throws at you and try to make better of it..
I really appreciate Paige speaking out! And appreciate Zav for bringing this to youtube.
Yes lots of respect to Paige for the speaking out about everything. It can't be easy to talk about being related to someone like that, and such a rough childhood in general would be very hard to speak about.
@Paige Clark… THEY ARE IN PRISON 50:22 FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE, THEY CAN’T HURT ANYONE, ANYMORE!!!
ALSO!!!!!!!!! PAUL HAD A CHOICE ALSO! He deserves life without parole! He loved abusing him!!
Thank you Paige for being so brave & speaking out against Shanda , & not only she made you lose one child she tried to harm your second child & killed her own child it’s disgusting, & it sounds like you all had a really rough childhood
Thanks for speaking your unfiltered and unpretentious truth about your family Paige. You are a breath of fresh air!
Thanks so much Paige for taking the time to share your story! You should definitely write a book!❤️ Zav thank you for having integrity so Paige would seek you out!! Great job❤️❤️❤️
Regarding "learning how to be a witness on the stand," no amount of training can help if you are lying. Look at Alex Murdaugh, who had decades of courtroom experience, at least 10 years of swindling and lying face to face to his clients, and a 100-year familial prosecutor background. All this experience, yet his body language and facial expressions and covering up of prior lies didn't work for him either in his interrogations or on the stand. It only took the jury 3 hours to convict him.
I think she wanted Timothy gone because he wasn't up to her standards, I think she would have thrown Paul away as soon as she didn't need a live in nanny/enforcer. Her "little miracle child" was her chance to have 1 perfect child. She only took Timothy to lessen her child support debt.
G was useful to manipulate Adam and his parents..But not really love by Shanda. I really think she did lawschool to Impress her dad in law.. On her yt. memorial day, you can see Her dog did not "like" Shanda and She did not train the dogs so well.
she homeschooled him but he can't read. I'm not sure she cared that much imo
@@crayCray420I agree. She eventually would have moved on to abuse Gabriel too
@@crayCray420 Yes, but Adam was at home untill a few months before.
At least in the last photos G did not look skinny. And Timothy was so skinny. She had favourites.
This is a really F’ed up family. Not sure what I think. But I’m sorry for the loss of her baby. That’s awful.
She has some of Shanda's mannerisms too.
Shanda is in Huron womans for facility. It shows it on google. The audacity of her complaining bout the cold the food and little sleep while in jail was ridiculous. She needs and deserves worse. I hope she gets air trays in prison from the guards and absolutely treated so bad.
What does "air trays" mean?
@@katiehensley290 when you get handed a food tray and there is no food in it. In protected custody you don't get to go to chow hall you have eat in your room. Well cameras show you bring handed a food tray. But it' doesn't show it's completely empty. And it would be her word against the guards . So yeah she needs air trays for about three days
It wouldn't kill her but she would know what being hungry feels like
@@junglecat6966 I didn't know that! Omg! That's hilarious. I hope that happens to Shanda. 🤣🤣
This is so eye opening!
Paul wont get out in 15/20. He has to do 30 straight before the parole dates start. Brilliant interview. I really felt for paige.
I doubt Paul will ever get out. He has to admit to killing Timothy torturing starving without prompting from Shanda. He is claiming he is a victim and only did what Shanda told him to which isn't true. The Parole board will know more than we do and Paul's selfish bullying behaviour in prison.
I hope the parole board are tough on him. And keep denying him. But i think inmates will sort him before 30 years is up. Or he will take the cowards way out.@@sarahmurphy8030
She's so lovely 😊🙏🧸Thank you for doing the interview ♡
This is so sad. Great that a good person could come out of this chaos. 😢 thanks for sharing your story
very insightful back story on Shanda
You have an amazing channel!!!
See ,she said her family isnt very good with weakness. I feel like my family ( almost all women until the new generation) we were very strong women BUT my Aunt had a handicapped son( i was raised with and he did die at 11 ,he wasnt supposed to live past age of 1) but we rallied around Lance( that's his name) . My mom and all her sisters helped my aunt with him. He had multiple seizures a day ,he had to wear a helmet and all of us kids ( especially me bc i lived in the home with him) protected him with my entire being. And when lance died it took a huge toll on our family. He was such a light in our life. Even tho he could barely talk we understood him. I was 9 yo when he passed and idk if its what made me so compassionate or if i was born this way but i always stood up fro the kids in school that were considered " different" and i always stood up for the underdog and to this day i am a grandma and my oldest grandson is autistic and him and I have such a beautiful bond!! I never struggle to understand him or what he needs. It just comes naturally. Im even like that with animals. If i see a litter of kittens etc i always pick the runt out or the one that seems to need the most attention or help. Bc i cant stand for any living being to feel lonely, helpless or anything it breaks my heart!! The thought of Timothy being isolated and alone tears my heart up. I suffer with depression and anxiety and i isolate myself and that gets lonely i cant imagine being isolated and treated like that by my own mom! My mom and her sisters struggled raising us. They worked their butts off to keep food on the tables and nice clothes on our backs and if one was low on food we would go eat dinner at the others house. Our moms werent perfect but they loved us!They protected us and i wouldn't trade my mom for anyone. Idc how poor we were or what ,she was my biggest fan and i appreciate that!! 🥰 ( My mom did pass 8 yrs ago thats why i use " past " tense when speaking about her)...I guess i just dont understand ppl that are cruel to others simply bc they are " weaker" than they are. Its so terribly 😢 sad.
Page you’ve been through so much. Thank you for sharing your history. It must be difficult to relive
Haha if u asked my kids who my favorite child is, they'd tell u my dog! 😂😂
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Mine too
Great job Zav you’re awesome 😎
My hat goes off to Paige for not playing favorites with her kids. That tore my family apart. Ive not spoken to my brother in 20 yrs and my mum in a year. Our twins wont even talk to her
Thank you for sharing your story and such personal info. The family resemblance is clear, but you are emotionally miles apart! Wish you well❤
Why did Eric not speak at his son's trial? Hell he wouldn't even go in to sit with Trish because he was afraid he'd get arrested. Not sure for what but could be because he let Timothy illegally go to Shanda's in the first place.
The judge said Eric and Trish intended to show up to Paul's sentencing, but they got sick and couldn't make it. I call that: Grade A bull$#it.
I believe the judge. Just not the people who dropped Timothy off at Shanda's knowing full well that she was to have no contact with Timothy.
Zav you’ve outdone yourself with this!! THANKYOUUUU ❤
This was excellent, thank you!🇬🇧
Appreciate this video ❤ thank you ladies x
Awesome interview! 🥰🥰🥰💚♥️💙💚♥️💙💚♥️💙
I am upset it missed this live, more than any of your others. This warrior or a woman is the best kind ever. She has my utmost respect for "breaking the cycle". She is an absolute lovely and brave soul to come publicly and re-live these tragic, horrifying stories. Paige, My Mama broke that cycle too and y'all are Angels 😇 on Earth. ❤
100% the dad should go to jail!!! Why is he still not charged with anything and that guy‘s an asshole? It was illegal for him to take Timothy to her so he should be charged. Big time!!
Hi Zav, I'm a new subscriber, but I just wanted to say thanks for this, very insightful and a very well done interview. Thanks to Paige for all that she shared with us, what a difficult upbringing, just goes to show we all have choices in life no matter what our background ❤
Sometimes, I will literally wake with the ending song you play, "I begging you to be kinddddd!"
If only everyone had that mindset, the world would be a better place.
Thank you, Zav and Paige, for this interview. I could tell that some of the trauma Paige had to relive was hard, so I appreciate her willingness to share her story with a purpose ❤️
I can sympathize with paige. My brother was the golden child and i was the scapegoat.
I get that. I am still the black sheep of the 6 of us.
Yes same although sometimes when my narcissist father wanted a certain emotional need met he would reverse our roles. Complete crazy making,the goal post and roles constantly shifting,I'm surprised I'm not completely mad.
This is a wonderful interview. Incredible no one else talked to her. God bless the sane people of this family.
What a brave girl ! I am so sorry what you went through
Ty for coming
Thank you Paige for speaking out.
Hello everyone from Fairy Glen, Saskatchewan, Canada! I love what you do Zav, you put in so much work and make your channel the best of all of them!
Paige, if you're reading this, thank you. To hear your perspective of the family really helps us understand the mind of Shanda a little better. Family trauma and abuse is a serious thing. Those involved either learn from trauma to be better, or carry on the abusive family cycle. Acknowledging the traits of an abusive family and wanting to do better for yourself and your family takes strength and bravery. It is beautiful to see how Paige has created a life for herself free from all this abuse. Shanda, on the other hand, succumbed to it and so did Paul. I had a little sympathy for Paul when he testified against Shanda, but when I heard those jail calls and noticed how he wasn't taking full accountability and even bullying others in the jail.. I knew he is right where he belongs. As a big brother he should have taken his baby brother away from that dangerous situation. He knew what was going on. He could've called someone and reported what was happening. He could've, at the very least, fed his baby brother and kept him full and refused to starve him. He had an opportunity to be a HERO. But he chose to be a villain. His morals are just as distorted as Shanda's. Rest in peace Timothy... I'm so so sorry this happened to you. Paige, I'm so sorry this happened to you as well. Please know we support you 🙏
If u grew up like that it should teach u how NOT TO BE A PARENT
Paige is so nice. The exact opposite of shanda. I’m sorry for the loss of your baby boy. Shouldn’t have happened❤
Paige I wish you nothing, but happiness ❤
lol that comma changes the sentence entirely
Great Interview. Very open and honest i feel. It shows that you can be raised the same as one of your siblings but turn out so different then the other.The monster turned evil while Paige chose to rise abover her upbringing and seems like such a nice person total oposite... So peopole who use their childhoods as an excuse for abusing others needs to take responsibility because we can see someone from the same family turn out so differently. Im sorry Paige for all that was done to you but so proud that you rose above and i hope you have a great life and Thank you for giving the interview. I was on the rewatch crew and just watched today.... Hope i didnt offend you by not saying your sisters name I dont want to give her any attention... What she did is inexcusible and i just see her as i called her earlier. ( I refered to her as that name during her trial so i guess its how i see her) I really dont have any sympathy for her I am sorry she had bad things happen to her but she had no right to do what she did to any human being....hurting you and Timothy and everyone else she hurt. YOu rose above and she could have too.... Hope i made sense... Take care of yourself Paige and your couragous and strong.
Thank you. I just try to do the right thing. Don't get me wrong, there are things I've done in my life I'm not proud of but nothing close to what she pulled.. Nothing to hurt my kids... Smh
Really appreciate this interview. There's been so much mystery about Shanda's background and upbrining. Now, we have some real clues as to where the patterns of ice water baths / controlling food / hot sauce come from. Really appreciate Paige's courage in coming forward, so at least we can learn from this situation.
Thank you for coming on here
Paige has to be put on a visitors list by Shanda and if she says no there will be no way Paige can go.
I think we know by now that Paul is not autistic. He has no remorse and was already setting rules for his autistic bunky because he wanted to sleep till 11 a.m. and bunky produced living sounds.
Can you imagine if he's playing his videogames and somebody (dependent) is disturbing him. In some of his strange video's you can hear Timothy 😢 What a future lies ahead for 'babygirl'.
If you listen to his phonecalls in jail it's an insult to people on the spectrum of autism. The judge said it right.
He played a role but he didn't fool a lot of us and lucky enough he exposed himself completely.
I think Paige would be better of to stay out of touch with Paul. He is also not trustworthy #trust #meaning #imsorry 😢
Paul will just ask her for commissary
Catching up on this now. Thanks Zav and thank you Paige for sharing. This is insightful.
Shanda's been ruining lives since her teens. She tried killing two of her sister's kids by assaulting her, then she killed her son and ruined one of her other son's lives.
What a screwed up family. I hope she gets to have a relationship with her niece and nephews. Maybe she'll have a chance to now that the mother isn't in the way.
Sooo Sad… When we’ve had it so bad we can ALWAYS find others who had it worse… That was a terrifying upbringing!!! Can’t help but feel empathy for ANY child to grow up that way 😢 SMH
I think its good paige is doing interviews to help rid any misinformation and have a voice. Shanda and paul muddied up the family and its only right family get to clear themselves and tell their story. Its very healing too.
Thank you. Unfortunately, there are people that think much more negatively. On the bright side, if they're focused on belittling me, they're leaving my sister's other kids alone. Lol
They dont know you so no one has the right to judge. It is healing to talk about painful family dynamics. My mum waa the same way playing favorites. It impacts deeply.
@@adalineproulx9773 Very true... I never played favorites with my kids. My oldest is autistic and I couldn't imagine putting him through even 1% of what Shanda did to Timothy. Smh
Great interview. Thank you, Zav and Paige.
Sorry for your loss Paige ❤❤no matter how mny years pass, your baby is still your baby ❤❤
That part broke my heart - just hearing the story told briefly. 🥹
Thank you. It was difficult to discuss but I know it was necessary.
Cool- Thanks for the interview Paige/ Zav!
I’m obsessed so listening for 3rd time currently.
Interesting look in at the family.
I joined late (again) so I'm on the replay crew. Got my coffee, let's go!
Sounds like the mom is a narcissist and Paige is the scapegoat Shanda was the golden child. Paige please look into this family abuse dynamic so you can feel peace from your childhood
Thank you so much for sharing with us your story Paige ❤ we appreciate you and it looks like you’re happily married, I can tell your husband loves you and kids, that’s worth more than any trust/money ❤ (also this was a GREAT interview)
Thank you Paige for letting us know what you went through as a child. Your a strong lady you went through a lot.and came out Ok
Paige was in fact a very good choice for an interview partner. Interesting and just great interview!. edit: oh Paige reached out to you, that’s even more awesome! Of course you took the chance for all of us
From Shonda's testimony in court, alot of her health diagnoses reeked more of her own self-diagnosing. My impression was that she's a hypochondriac.
Paige, I'm so sorry you went through all this trauma honey. No body deserves the hell you've been put through!!! So proud of you for breaking this cycle. God Bless You!🙏❤️
Great interview!! Paige, you are an exceptional person!! I hope everything with your trust works in your favor, thanks for sharing your life with us!! Too bad Shonda didn't have some of you in her, but like you said you each had a decision to make and she chose darkness while you chose light❤️😇🙏
Hello everyone! Much love and respect for you Zav Girl, you put in the hard work and have made your channel the best out of all of them! Thanks for being you!
She really is the best! Very caring too!
Page thank you for speaking on here
love your haircut Zav!!!!
Sounds like a very toxic upbringing i hope paige got help for the ptsd.
Didn’t shandra say I’m court that she looses weight so easily???
Yet her sister says she couldn’t take the weight off !!
Sandra was lying to try and hide Timothy's thiness
I'm so confused though. If shanda has a trust , why was she always broke? Child support could go after her estate , yet she collected 50k in back child support. She couldn't become a practicing attorney. Why not pay off the 50l?
it seems like Paige i saying its really hard to actually get the money. she only gets 600 a month.
People with trusts are always broke, it's hard to spend money reasonably
she owes 50K in child support
Every trust has it own terms and conditions, some allow full authority to someone else if the person who set up the trust dies, others have a maturity date for the recipients which is more common when someone is a minor when trust is set up. The story about this trust is very sketchy, just my opinion. Why isn’t anyone wealthy?
It's very strange. I don't understand it.
@Zavgirl I loved your interview with Paige❤️
That father and that stepmother both need charged because if not for them timothy would have never been in shaunda's care
Shanda doesn’t seem to need her service dog now!?
He died
@@debracarrington9426 Yes. But she claimed to need a service dog all the time to alert for her hypoglycemia which she seems to have made up as it’s not an issue in prison?
it was all a scam to take her dog to school and work
she thought the service dog made her special
@@Serenitynow958her self diagnosed illnesses. There was nothing wrong medically with this woman just mentally. Pure evil and self absorbed.
That’s a pretty big bombshell to accuse the nanny of setting up her mom. It sounds like the entire family is messed up.
Eric knew Shanda was not allowed to have Timothy. He should be indicted for that.
This whole story is insane. 😮
If Paige helps Nolan she has to know he will financially help Paul.
That's what I actually just commented! He will be fulfilling all of Paul's wish-lists and commissary.
Yup ans BB gurl 🙄
Outstanding interview. Insightful. Anybody who suffered from narcissistic abuse can understand Paige. A tender hearted, loving and strong lady. I hope she reads this. Wondering where the family money originated and from what kind of investment.
Wow, what a family! Making me think of the Murdagh Family. Run everything in the town and make problems go away. Wild! And Shanda being a trust fund baby- who knew?? Just wow.
And actually just watching it further, Paige is actually cool as fuck so well done her 🙏
This person is a great witness against Shanda. But maybe they would have used her to say it was Shanda’s grandparents fault and not hers. I pray for Paige’s feelings. Good to see her sympathy for Paul although it’s hard for me to feel it. I never lived that life.
Dang it i missed the live!!!
Hugs to Paige. You are a survivor. ❤
Thanks, Zav! Great interview! Dont listen to the negative comments! You do a great job and its so interesting to hear from Shanda's family. Her sister was so kind to come on live and that speaks to your channel and who you are!! Thanks again!!
Why didn’t Shanda take G to a dr or dentist? Paul didn’t have dental care either. For a family who came from $ was this typical to avoid drs/dentists?
You know what? I wasn't aware this was a wealthy family. Imagine letting Paul's teeth get to that point and doing absolutely nothing about it. I have to guess she didn't have access to the wealth, somehow. She seemed to be making ends meet, so I don't think Shanda was rich.
It seems more like she was a paranoid, anti- vaxxer, anti medical, anti school type, probably just a personal thing. But rich families do live by their own rules and not care about conventions
Perhaps she just didn't care. Paul could've saved his money and got his teeth sorted himself, guess he was too busy torturing his brother 😮
I think she was just too self obsessed to do anything about her kids teeth.
Doesn't sound like there was much given.
Amazing Zav!!! Thank you for all you do!
That girl could do no wrong, she said, in regards to Shonda growing up. Explains everything. I appreciate your guest, thank you.
You should send Page a gift with the donations from this. Sounds like she deserves a little pampering, she's been to hell and back. She is one strong lady!
She has a trust fund so I’m sure she is fine
@@spunky38251 she gets only 600 a month she said. I dont think it what we all think trust funds are. It seems like they have to run through a lot of red tape
Did u watch this interview??
I think sending her a gift is a great idea!!!!!😊
Does she have a job?
Paige seems a lovely woman , so different from her sister . Thank you for coming on here , really appreciate it 🌹🌷🌼🌻🌺🌸💐
What a brave thing to do Paige. Thank you ❤️
That singing from him tho "He found the guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurl" 😂😂😂
There is no excuse for what Shanda did l don’t care how u grew up
Exactly, I've known a couple of people with horrific childhoods and they are the nicest people you could ever meet cos they've been to hell and back, they know how it feels and wouldnt wish the same on their own worst enemy. I hate that excuse it's a pathetic one.
@@_sshh_ so true
How the heck are there 11K views and only 863 likes? I think you did an amazing job with this interview, Zav. Keep up the great work. Just commented on the most recent video of Katie, from Down the Rabbit Hole at Bedtime, who has rightly given you h/t's in her videos on this case, I would love for the two of you to collab... even just a dialogue would be interesting to watch.
You made me laugh saying how you get side tracked 😂…. Me too xxx ❤
Zav the interview was a good. I feel compassion for Paige... Sorry I missed tonight's live but I have a standing appointment every Wednesday night at 7. I learned a lot!
❤ hi from the uk 🇬🇧
Hi 👋
Excellent interview 👍🏻
Wow It's Amazing To Hear The Sisters Information.Thank You To The Sister And So Sorry All That You Went Thru In Life as A Young Girl .I Loved When She Said About How Shanda had No Emotion when she was in Court On The Stand .But Yet She Cried When Her Husband Adam Passed Away ..Smh She didn't even cry for Her Son That She Abused and Unalived .
Dang sad I missed this #replay
Paige is such a nice lady, also very funny! I hope she's ok. Xx