I've been Lowriding for over 25 year's. We never put heat to a spring you lose the Temper of the coil. I to this day put the spring's in a 5 gallon bucket full of cold water. I use a air grinder cut off tool to make my cut.
@@gtrdrejugfde288 Are you using the stock coil springs or Lowrider bought Coil springs. Stock Coil springs to drop the truck 2" I would cut the Coil springs 1 1/2 Coils. Lowrider bought Coil springs are stiffer for the Lowriders that hop. Just remember if you're using the stock springs to use a 5 gallon bucket and fill it with cold water about 1 1/2 inches below the cut so the springs maintain their Temper and don't get weak. Anytime you cut Coil springs the vehicle or truck will have some bounce but not as bad using the 5 gallon bucket of water method because the springs don't lose their temper in the cold water. I done my 1971 Impala hardtop and 1978 Grand Marquise hardtop and many other cars this way and the ride quality is very good. Any other questions just message me.
You measure the free length of the coil. For every 1 inch drop in free length of the coil will net a 2 inch drop at the body. Also the cut spring will effect the spring rate in lbs
Well done. Won't affect the spring but will affect the load of the spring cuz the F length and the way the set. I'm a spring maker so I know litte about that. Really helpful video. I will do that on my 73 Cheyenne. I can shotpeen to get back some strength on spring. Or if I can find out the spects on it I can make couples spring instead.
I've cut springs and welded back together to drop them an inch or two i kept them cool as I welded with damp rag never had an issue little heat wont hurt them u just dont want them red hot because they will bend and deform like a pretzel.
Don’t heat up a spring ever. Just use a grinding wheel on an angle grinder and take fast passes to taper the tip of the end coil. This will not heat up the spring enough to change the tempering
Ikonw it had been some time since you`ve done this but i think you should of had the coil spring cooled in a bucket of old oil that way the hardness of the steel gets back near to the original forging sorry for the bad english not my first language
I've cut at least 20 springs and have never flattened the ends, and never not one time have I had any issues with the lower control arm distorting or getting a joke in it in any way.
Don't know if you still monitor these comments, but my question is, could you just cut the other end of the coil and not have to worry about flattening the coil with heat? Or is there some reason you have to cut off from the end with the flat coil?? Hope this question makes sense. Thanks for the video!
The Rule of firm is measure the coil before cut if you want to inches drop on your vehicle measure the coil at 1 inch worse and that’s your cut it’s not one ring of the coil. Also I have a question is there any other suspension parts that have to be changed after lowering the coil? Thank you
Hey cool vid , I plan on cutting my springs too but won't be able to heat and bent it like you did. I was wondering is there a rubber seat or something you can get or make and use that? Thanks
I know this is really late but cutting one coil is fine on anything, you don't want to go more than 1and a half. Never heat a spring though, it's not necessary to have that spring sitting flush (or close to it) in the lower control arm. After the spring compresses under the weight of the truck it's fine.
+Keith Gomez Because that end of the spring also sits in a cup that indexes it in the upper coil bucket. It's sized to the inner diameter of the spring.
Heating a coil spring to cherry red like that and bending it is a no no. Give it a couple months and where you heated it will break. You'll find the broken piece laying in there loose or gone. Seen it many times my friends. Spend the hundred bucks and do the job right.
Not wishing you bad luck, I'm just sharing what I know. I hate to give people the impression that heating a spring like that is safe. It is not. Good luck with it, be safe my friend.
Probably but ride quality will suffer. You’ll be bouncing off the bumpstops pretty often. Drop springs are usually a stiffer spring rate to help minimize that.
gReG sKi Yeah... it looks really dangerous on the video (and I definitely should have clamped it down and not had my hand right in front of the cutting disc) But it didn't even cross my mind when I was making the cut.
Im ok with cutting spring with out safetygear but damn man y use a wood plank plased it trou the spring and me and mi frien hold it down with our feet while on of cut cutten it
Jeff Kemmerling The narrow coil at the top of the spring indexes around a shoulder area pressed into the upper coil bucket. If you cut the top coil off, the coil spring would not sit correctly in the bucket.
+Miguel Mares Cutting 1 coil and re-setting the spring yields around 2-2.5" of drop. If that's as much drop as you want, I would go with drop spindles instead of cutting the spring.
@@milkcrate82 your a moron there is a actual mathematical formula. But to simplify it you can calculate it this way for every inch you cut off the coil it is 2 inches that will lower the body. You need to stop and let the professionals teach
I cut one full coil off my springs on my s10. Dropped the front almost 3 inches. I then cut a half coil off the passenger side . why? To level out the Chevy lean. Other than doing alot of alignment work ( camber and toe) to dial it in...no problems at all. Truck sits totally level and no unusual wear on tires or any components. 1 full coil = 2 to 3 inches depending on the strength of the coil. The truck had an inch and a quarter difference between driver and passenger side. Half a coil cut leveled it. So my springs, 1 full loop obviously dropped it 2.5 inches.
Watching you hold that spring with your hand made me cringe. Do yourself a favor and do a google image search for "angle grinder injury". Will make you think twice about not just a vise but using a full face visor, sleeves, and welding apron. You got REALLY lucky that thing didn't at least take your thumb off.
Cause using a grinder to cut the spring dosent generate heat...🙄 for $80 and free shipping could of got the correct lowering spring and not suffered ride quality. But everyone has different budgets. Send it.
@@milkcrate82 you didnt do it the correct way either. All you did was show them a way to potentially get themselves or someone else hurt or killed. Hope your satisfied with that possibility because I wouldn't want that possibility living on my conscience
I wonder how someone it's going to get hurt. Cutting a spring? I do that every day. I'm a spring maker and one of the best in the USA. Apply heat to the and coil won't affect the spring just the load cuz the free length. Big wire size probably. 650 "
fek .....mate you do not heat the spring with acetylene.... period .......grind the flat with a angle grinder, andof course it wont seat properly as you 'don't' by rule ,cut the flat end of a coil....
I've been Lowriding for over 25 year's. We never put heat to a spring you lose the Temper of the coil. I to this day put the spring's in a 5 gallon bucket full of cold water. I use a air grinder cut off tool to make my cut.
Sir I have a 93 ranger will a single coil cut drop me 2inches. And will the truck ride stiffer. Thanks
@@gtrdrejugfde288 Are you using the stock coil springs or Lowrider bought Coil springs. Stock Coil springs to drop the truck 2" I would cut the Coil springs 1 1/2 Coils. Lowrider bought Coil springs are stiffer for the Lowriders that hop. Just remember if you're using the stock springs to use a 5 gallon bucket and fill it with cold water about 1 1/2 inches below the cut so the springs maintain their Temper and don't get weak. Anytime you cut Coil springs the vehicle or truck will have some bounce but not as bad using the 5 gallon bucket of water method because the springs don't lose their temper in the cold water. I done my 1971 Impala hardtop and 1978 Grand Marquise hardtop and many other cars this way and the ride quality is very good. Any other questions just message me.
@@gtrdrejugfde288 You are very welcome. Are you only lowering it or putting hydraulics or air bags on it
You measure the free length of the coil. For every 1 inch drop in free length of the coil will net a 2 inch drop at the body. Also the cut spring will effect the spring rate in lbs
that was a pretty smart setup to set the spring. be careful with that grinder, holding it with your hand bro. thanks again!
craig jones I'm pretty careful with it. I've got the scars on my hand to remind me. Thanks for watching!
Well done. Won't affect the spring but will affect the load of the spring cuz the F length and the way the set. I'm a spring maker so I know litte about that. Really helpful video. I will do that on my 73 Cheyenne. I can shotpeen to get back some strength on spring. Or if I can find out the spects on it I can make couples spring instead.
I've cut springs and welded back together to drop them an inch or two i kept them cool as I welded with damp rag never had an issue little heat wont hurt them u just dont want them red hot because they will bend and deform like a pretzel.
Why would you cut a spring and weld it back together to simply drop ride height a inch or two.
Spring wil set itself I would think
All u had to do was grind on top the spring to get it flat
Hope he didn't messed that spring up by heating it. You're right Alex. Thanks for putting it outhere.
Thanks for that..
Thanks for that info.
Don’t heat up a spring ever. Just use a grinding wheel on an angle grinder and take fast passes to taper the tip of the end coil. This will not heat up the spring enough to change the tempering
8 years later and I’m curious if you still have all your fingers
MacGyver would be so proud!!! good video
gReG sKi Haha! Thank you for watching!
Ikonw it had been some time since you`ve done this but i think you should of had the coil spring cooled in a bucket of old oil that way the hardness of the steel gets back near to the original forging sorry for the bad english not my first language
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You should never heat a spring. It's not necessary for that spring to sit flat in the lower control arm,once it's under load in the truck it's fine.
Bob Falfa you sure?
Should never cut a coil and just install. It'll wear through the lower A arm and screw through.
I've cut at least 20 springs and have never flattened the ends, and never not one time have I had any issues with the lower control arm distorting or getting a joke in it in any way.
Excellent video very helpful!!
Don't know if you still monitor these comments, but my question is, could you just cut the other end of the coil and not have to worry about flattening the coil with heat? Or is there some reason you have to cut off from the end with the flat coil?? Hope this question makes sense. Thanks for the video!
The top has a perch
The Rule of firm is measure the coil before cut if you want to inches drop on your vehicle measure the coil at 1 inch worse and that’s your cut it’s not one ring of the coil. Also I have a question is there any other suspension parts that have to be changed after lowering the coil? Thank you
The guy the use cut my springs on my truck used a torch .2 years ago.Now one is broken already. BTW they were brand new
Same these process is suitable for mono suspension in bikes please reply
never ever heat a spring over time they crumble like an accordian
yeah,big no no
i cut 2 coil off an 1985 c10 dropped it 3 inch ... so 1 1/2 " is all you get per coil
Depends on type of alloy in the spring = hardness density = softer springs , ussually on higher quality truck model drop more.
Hey cool vid , I plan on cutting my springs too but won't be able to heat and bent it like you did. I was wondering is there a rubber seat or something you can get or make and use that? Thanks
Not that I'm aware of. I just used MAPP gas that I bought at Home Depot.
I know this is really late but cutting one coil is fine on anything, you don't want to go more than 1and a half. Never heat a spring though, it's not necessary to have that spring sitting flush (or close to it) in the lower control arm. After the spring compresses under the weight of the truck it's fine.
1 inch on the spring equals 2 on the body, and never add heat to the spring, cut the spring on the bottom only, not where the winding is tighter
1Rustytruck first thing I said, surprised he didn’t even measure
What size rims are you running?
Any problems with the lca rubbing with the wheel?
+Jacob C 15". No issues but in the last video of this series I show how tight the clearance between the LCA and the wheel.
You're running 15x7 up front? I have 15x8 all around heard 8s rub, so 7 should be fine? Ima gonna lower front 4 - 4.5
you are a very lucky guy!
why not cut the opposite side so you don't have to bend the spring?
+Keith Gomez Because that end of the spring also sits in a cup that indexes it in the upper coil bucket. It's sized to the inner diameter of the spring.
iva mirando copado y se me vino abajo cuando empezo a cortar el espiral
Heating a coil spring to cherry red like that and bending it is a no no. Give it a couple months and where you heated it will break. You'll find the broken piece laying in there loose or gone. Seen it many times my friends. Spend the hundred bucks and do the job right.
+monnieweb 2 years and roughly 10000 miles later and they are fine.
It will eventually. I've seen it happen many times. Did it myself years ago.
Not wishing you bad luck, I'm just sharing what I know. I hate to give people the impression that heating a spring like that is safe. It is not. Good luck with it, be safe my friend.
cutting one coil hurts nothing and it's free, that's all a 2inch lowering spring is anyway. But yeah, never heat a spring
@@milkcrate82 are they still fine now? Thinking of doing the same for the same reasons.
Cutting 1" off of the spring drops 2"
Try it out
What is the dimension of factory spring coil spacing?
Could I cut 2 coils off??? And go lower without needing Spindles ?
Probably but ride quality will suffer. You’ll be bouncing off the bumpstops pretty often. Drop springs are usually a stiffer spring rate to help minimize that.
dang use a vice to hold the spring while you cut it, I thought I was dangerous, LOL
gReG sKi Yeah... it looks really dangerous on the video (and I definitely should have clamped it down and not had my hand right in front of the cutting disc) But it didn't even cross my mind when I was making the cut.
Im ok with cutting spring with out safetygear but damn man y use a wood plank plased it trou the spring and me and mi frien hold it down with our feet while on of cut cutten it
Soaking in oil will put temper back in the spring,,,,but it's not nessary to bend spring anyway, it's not going anywhere
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So what happen did it work or not??
worked just fine
Why didn't you just cut a coil off the Top of the spring, so you wouldn't have to reset the bottom of the spring?
Jeff Kemmerling The narrow coil at the top of the spring indexes around a shoulder area pressed into the upper coil bucket. If you cut the top coil off, the coil spring would not sit correctly in the bucket.
Now here's a pretty smart question!
Super bad hand placement ....put it in a vice my guy .....that would be a bad lick if that binded and jumped into your flesh😱
How much height does simply cutting the spring take out? without drop spindles
+Miguel Mares Cutting 1 coil and re-setting the spring yields around 2-2.5" of drop. If that's as much drop as you want, I would go with drop spindles instead of cutting the spring.
@@milkcrate82 your a moron there is a actual mathematical formula. But to simplify it you can calculate it this way for every inch you cut off the coil it is 2 inches that will lower the body. You need to stop and let the professionals teach
@@bobbylbwhite you're
@@72MrHotrod my spelling and use of words may be poor but I dont speak nor try to teach things I dont know.
I cut one full coil off my springs on my s10. Dropped the front almost 3 inches. I then cut a half coil off the passenger side . why? To level out the Chevy lean. Other than doing alot of alignment work ( camber and toe) to dial it in...no problems at all. Truck sits totally level and no unusual wear on tires or any components. 1 full coil = 2 to 3 inches depending on the strength of the coil. The truck had an inch and a quarter difference between driver and passenger side. Half a coil cut leveled it. So my springs, 1 full loop obviously dropped it 2.5 inches.
My 2 cents- cut the top side and never heat the spring
I think u just killed the lower half where u heayed
thank you good man🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️
Watching you hold that spring with your hand made me cringe. Do yourself a favor and do a google image search for "angle grinder injury". Will make you think twice about not just a vise but using a full face visor, sleeves, and welding apron. You got REALLY lucky that thing didn't at least take your thumb off.
DJDevon3 lol I was expecting to cut his thumb any time 😂
DJD is a classic safety nazi--do it your way in your garage and stfu here.
Cause using a grinder to cut the spring dosent generate heat...🙄 for $80 and free shipping could of got the correct lowering spring and not suffered ride quality. But everyone has different budgets. Send it.
2 coils off
cutting this spring bad
Heat it under pressure…
He cut the wrong end.
why not just buy proper springs? it's not 19 diggity 2 aanymore
+Mark Kennedy Drop springs are cheap. However I wanted to show my viewers another option that's even cheaper... and still safe if done right.
+milkcrate82 sweet man was just curious that's all my days of cutting springs and flipping leaves are long gone
Mark Kennedy No worries! These are actually going to be replaced with bags in the near future.
@@milkcrate82 you didnt do it the correct way either. All you did was show them a way to potentially get themselves or someone else hurt or killed. Hope your satisfied with that possibility because I wouldn't want that possibility living on my conscience
I wonder how someone it's going to get hurt. Cutting a spring? I do that every day. I'm a spring maker and one of the best in the USA. Apply heat to the and coil won't affect the spring just the load cuz the free length. Big wire size probably. 650 "
fek .....mate you do not heat the spring with acetylene.... period .......grind the flat with a angle grinder, andof course it wont seat properly as you 'don't' by rule ,cut the flat end of a coil....
NEVER CUT A SPRING BUY THE RIGHT ONE !! Dont be a duct tape mechanic...
I saw chip foose cut a coil off once. If its good enough for foose, it's good enough for the girls I run with🤷
Too much work. Just take a torch and heat 1+coil on the bottom and let weight of truck bring it down to the height you want.
That will low the body, but will creat more stiff. Is not the same tech.