This dude is like the physical embodiment of Twitter discourse. Complaining and nitpicking while simultaneously not really knowing what he’s talking about 💀
And that's the most frustrating part. Has this dude EVER sat down and think what he's talking about sounds reasonable? That he should learn WHY people complain about race swaps like Velma and he might not understand (In the case of Teen Titans Go and Ben 10) what the flaws of the shows even are in the first place? But I guess it doesn't even matter cause a lot of the topics he's fighting about are things already talked about or resolved. NOTHING is being clarified and there is NOTHING new brought to whatever argument he's trying to make
@@Doobie-kx8fkthe main problem with Velma’s race swapping is that when they did it they replaced Velma with Mindy Kaling’s self insert but with the name of Velma. From what I could tell about the reboot FOP’s main character that she’s intended to be a completely different person than Timmy so making it not a race swap to begin with
"it's not about race" *complains about characters being made black in shows even if their race had no effect on their characters either way* it may, in fact, be about race
@@sarafontanini7051 More like "it's not about race" **complains about characters being made black in shows even if their race had no effect on their characters either way** "Race shouldn't matter" **non-sequitur about the live-action Lion King which also isn't a reboot but a reimagining, which isn't the same thing**
@@sarafontanini7051 "I don't see race" Proceeds to sob and piss about a character's race (not even) being swapped, even though he's supposed to not even see it.
"Rise of the TMNT was unfaithful to the source material." Yeah, you know what else was unfaithful to the source material. Literally every series of TMNT in existence. Everything from the Games, to the movies, to the TV shows. None of them are faithful to the source.
ironically the 4kids cartoon, while taking its own direction at many points, is the closest any of the adaptations got to actually following the 'spirit' of the original comics, even being the first time some characters only seen in the comics appeared in the show. Hell, its why Stockman was black (and why he was blakc in following adaptations)
Again, the 80s TMNT show was drastically different from the original comics. 2003 (until Fast Forward) was far closer to the comics. I'm not saying the 80s one is bad, it's just IMHO each iteration does their own thing, have their strengths and weaknesses, and it helps to make them stand out from one another.
As a black person, in my opinion, this show works because it actually creates a new black character and doesn't change Timmy's skin. If you ask me how I feel about black representation, I would rather create a new character who happens to be black than change the skin of the original character
@@Mangakamen this is 100% valid to complain, because the art style does nothing to race skin. This guy in this video doesn't understand black representation, he complains about everything he saw black characters on TV 😒
Like that one scene from Ted 2, where Ted was arguing with that one Boston neighbor. But then he and the neighbor join up to bash on the grandma that butted in.
It’s because from what I’ve seen people see characters of a similar ilk with a different race (like Hazel and Miles Morales) as basically being “the same character but black” I’ve seen this both online and from family members.
Video was so bad ya'll didn't even waste a MINUTE! "I Never saw Cyborg or Static Shock as black characters!" The same damn cartoons that DEALT WITH RACISM Plots. Static Shock ESPECIALLY.
Interestingly that was the season's Kori episode in Teen Titans...and this is literally what Tamaraneans have to deal with when Blackfire, backstabbing royal court members like Xand'r/Brother Eternity and her Gordanean mooks aren't around in the comics...and Vic was like...alright we're letting your boyfriend know...and Kori tries to say wait, but Vic says...now. I'm also thinking the whole reason why Nightstar gets so much flack as a ship over NightOracle? Kori is both designed and written as an intergalactic black woman with long ginger hair...in love with a white man...and this is the interracial couple that is almost DC's second beta-couple outside of the Clois and Wally/Linda OTP's yet it gets dunked on because of some irritating Batfamily characters can only be with people from Gotham nonsense, especially when part of Nightwing's whole deal is he's like his Auntie Wonder Woman, half-Supes/half-Bat's and has his own city and own personality that has somehow turned into the 9th back alley of Gotham with a slightly happier Batman Jr. for no good reason. If Nightwing's best pal can have an interracial relationship...why can't he? *Yes Kori was always intended to be black, she's just as light as Trudy Proud.
I still love Cyborg's line that goes like "I know how it feels, I've always been hated ...because I'm a robot" brilliant bait and switch and a clever way to add comedy to a serious moment! OG Teen Titans really was special from writing to animation edit: the same clip was used in the video! told you it was great! I really love that episode, the antagonist is great too because he's not evil but he's an awful guy
Reminds me of that one really bad Godzilla video that was floating around for a bit that the entire Godzilla community collectively agreed was ass. I don't actually know anything about it, I just know it had tons of responses and the original video's probably gone now.
First Cartoonshi, then Alpha Jay Show, and now MangaKamen came out to criticise this BS critique video. ASK Air totally screwed up. It'll be worse for him if SaberSpark also makes a video of it.
I think the red flag wasnt JUST having Uncle Ruckus as his favorites, but him saying "I never saw them as Black Charactes" before having to immediately say "I love characters of ALL ethnicities" very much screams "Im not racist because I have friends who arent white!"
One of the characters he brings up as an example of black characters he likes, Static Shock, had his black identity as a major part of his character, there was a whole episode that was straight up about racism, so it’s kind of ironic how he could somehow ignore it there but can’t here
it's wild lmao, i'd have been more understanding if the topic of racism was completely untouched, but it wasn't. not that he'd know, he seems to have so little media literacy that even if it was laid out for him in baby terms, he'd miss it lol
A.S.K. Air's entire video sounds like a rant he made up in the shower, not something that should've put to video and posted for all to see. It's nothing but recycled talking points, assumptions, with a dash of ignorance and half cup of underlying racism.
@@matthewwilliams8267 True, the video is just him saying "They're disrespecful/unfaithful to the source material" while giving little to no examples on how.
I do understand the importance of that episode being about judging people by their race, but people can relate to episode like this and not be black. As a black man who's grown up with dealing with ignorance of different people. That episode can hit home for multiple people of different race and/or backgrounds. That's why static shock is so popular like spiderman.
That also goes for cyborg. Sorry, copy post it from a either video I commented cover the video. Also I hate how people undermind the saying "I don't see race" means there judging them by their character, like how MLK literally dead for🤦♂️
While true none of what you said takes away from the fact that the episode wouldn't work if Virgil/Static wasn't black or poc. He used the "I don't see race" card but brought up examples of characters who are very intentionally a certain race and examples of them alluding to or outright dealing with negatives that come with said ethnicity. Him ignoring those aspects of the character is basically saying "even if these guys are poc I don't have to think about it and can even pretend they aren't" which isn't a good take especially when trying to deny hating Chloe solely cuz she's black. Basically the "I don't see color" argument is doomed to fail every time cuz its rooted in the desire to ignore all color outright instead of just being cool with different ethnicitys.
@infinitezion2029 Granted, the part with Chloe was poorly done and should be criticized. That one of the best parts to this video. But saying that i don't see race is doomed to fail. Is like true stories like the freedom writers was a poor message because people in the story come together from different ethnicities to fine peace make the school better. Hell , one of the antagonists of a story was a white woman who thought the teacher was in the wrong for having the kids get chances because there from the hood or how Daryl Davis as able to have a KKK leader quite and help his community be a black man shows his beliefs were wrong. There's plenty of that are popular and untold. If that doesn't work for you, then whatever🤷♂️
Yes people can relate to the episode and not be black. That doesn't change the fact that the character is black, and was deliberately written with their race in mind, so saying "I don't see their race at all!" is pretty stupid. Being able to relate to a black character's storyline as a non-black person doesn't change that the character's blackness shapes who they are
Because that video is just awful. Lack of research, little to no examples, points that were off topic (the voice actors and that Hailey Bailey can't sing), contradictions, repetation and really nasty things (that unfunny sarcastic joke about Tiana in the end and the offensive deleted Family Guy edit)
That video is just insane. They could've just said "I don't like that New Wish" and left it that, even if it's an unpopular opinion but he had to make so many nothing excuses, borderline racist reasoning, disrespecting a dead man while victimizing the justifiable scapegoat for FOP's downfall, and then covering your ears when receiving pushback. Good way to kill your career.
Im seriously sick and tired of people saying "They made Timmy Turner black!" Hazel is a completely different character. A New Wish is not a reboot, It's a sequel series. One that desperately needed to happen because they ran the original show into the ground. And i know it's nostalgia talking, but don't parse Timmy. Timmy was a brat. I loved the show, but I hated Timmy.
I agree, but I'll be honest, as a black person. If I want representation based on my skin, I'd rather create A NEW CHARACTER that happens to be black than CHANGE RACE because it's cheap and lazy for having black representation. If you call me racist bc I didn't want the RACE CHANGE, now TRY TO THINK about this: If the original character was black and in movie changed his skin to be white, will get called out RACIST. But if the original was white and changed his skin to be black, won’t he be called racist??? Don't you see how stupid that is? I appreciate this show (the new wish) because it creates a new black character, not change Timmy’s skin. Yes I care about Black representation but change skin of original character isn’t POC representation.
@@littledog3553 you want representation? FFS you dont ask for representation this is how we got miles out of spiderman and it ruined his character. instead of miles being brought up from the ground he became an insert able idea of what if spiderman was black instead of his own unique spiderman. your self desire for representation is everything wrong with entertainment, and if you need a representor that is only allowed to be your color you are the racist PERIOD your view of skin and race is literally skin deep and you need help getting away from this whole race dogma you've entered. this isnt about politics its about your views on yourself and others dispite their skin color
@@littledog3553 Holy shit. Literally, every race says this every time a character gets swapped to said race, we get it. A random comment section isn't gonna do shit about it. Nobody likes it, just rich assholes and corporations.
As someone who hates race swapping this firstly isn’t one. Secondly it’s stupid to see her as a race swap considering she doesn’t replaces a character. As such it’s not possible. Its also one of the better shows to show a „diverse“ new main character. She doesn’t resemble Timmy at all. Timmy isn’t a kid anymore. Hazel didn’t steal the Fearies. They could have done something more with Timmy to make him less flawed but a sequel is also ok
Fun fact, he said it himself that he knows Hazel is not a raceswap but that he is critizing her because she's a black protagonist I am not making this up, this guy's brain is on the 1700s
The crazy thing is that hazel being black literally isnt even talked about in a new wish. Shes just a character tbat happens to be black. And shes a really good protagonist. I hate race swapping in media but he picked literally the worst example because it wasnt even a race swap!
True, unlike Jar(Just a Robot) Kamen actively avoids these conversations, for obvious reasons. He's very non-political and I respect him for that. Just obviously, sometimes it's unavoidable like High Gardian Spice.
Some people think that the show must be a reboot with Timmy still as the main character and don't bother learning it's actually a sequel with a new kid.
I just can’t get over the uncle ruckus part. Out of all the characters, how did you just so happen to land on the worst one? He could have used an aggressive gangster and that would have been less problematic, how did he not think about this for more than 2 seconds
6:24 Did he not see why putting Uncle Ruckus here was a bad idea. 8:26 So he complained about race swapping, while in the original video had the griffins black faced and Cleveland was white hypocrisy for 1.
It was especially a bad idea to include Uncle Ruckus because just like Static and Cyborg his race is extremely important to his character. If Uncle Ruckus was anything but African American the joke of him being delusional about his race while hating black people wouldn't make sense lmfao.
@@dimensionduelist4149 Yeah, A.S.K Air complains about race swapping and then process to do the same thing for a dreadful attempt at """humor""" (in three quotations)
@@cosmicspacething3474 Because accoring to A.S.K Air, dogs aren't race. But crabs are because he included Mr. Krabs as one of his favorite characters with race.
Honestly this exceeds even that one time Mr. Enter brought up 9/11 in his first Turning Red review since at least MrEnter admitted it was stupid whereas I can’t see A.S.K. Air growing out of being an Anti SJW
To think that was over 10 years ago is insane. Sure people started shitting on people who still hated it 7 years ago, but that tells you that hate never fully dies off.
I hate that show, worse version of the original imo, but I wouldn't actively go after people for liking it..if they like it? Cool! I don't really enjoy something I liked being muddled down to just nonsense and potty humor (it's about equal to newer spongebob for me, both are bad imo for similar reasons..but I will say TTG is better by a bit as it does have some interesting elements)
A.S.K Air is clearly just a racist. It was evident by him calling Hazel "Black Timmy Turner" and complaining that "A New Wish" has a race-swapping problem when none of the characters in that show have been race-swapped, which also reveals that he likely didn't even watch the show, otherwise he would have noticed the many, many times other characters acknowledged the existence of Timmy Turner, showing that Hazel isn't a race-swapped Timmy.
My reply is not meant to counter your point as I fully agree with it. I will only add that whether people like it or not, North American culture is so imbued with both overt and subtle racist elements that even people who think they are not racist can actually be racist/prejudiced. I can tell this guy doesn't think he is racist because he's coming at it from a anti-woke/SJW mindset and using the color blind defense. Then again that Family Guy is more than enough for me not to defend him and simply just not watch his videos.
Not to mention him saying his never seen characters such as Cyborg and Static as “black” and for some weird reason added the comment of Halle Bailey and Zoe Zegler aren’t good singers which literally had no nothing to do with the topic of the video 💀
@@jonathanthompson4077 Rare person who understands that not all racists are ideological racists, if only everyone understood that itd be a lot easier to get rid of people like that.
And I thought Phantomstrider's worst cartoon reboots video was bad (As you pointed out in the past he called Extreme Ghostbusters a remake even though it was a continuation of The Real Ghostbusters with them coming back for the show's finale Back In The Saddle)
Ask Air's video was the very definition of yapping. He said nothing unique or original, just a bunch of anti woke talking points that have been regurgitated since 2016.
Wow Kamen! Even you’re getting in on dogpiling this crackpot of a user! Even if this isn’t what you work on these days, thanks for the content! Anyways, I’ve heard this on Cartoonshi and Alpha Jay’s channels many times, and I need to say this here in regards to how that guy went after that show… A New Wish is NOT a reboot. It IS a sequel, since Timmy is occasionally mentioned, and… HAZEL IS DIFFERENT FROM TIMMY. Timmy’s life utterly sucked, with incompetent parents, awful teachers, and Vicky… just Vicky. Hazel is a more down to earth character who, before running afoul of Vicky, had to deal with more relatable issues. Oh, and her parents love her and her teacher tries to help her to the best of his ability. Long story short, you can have an opinion on Hazel, but know that she isn’t a new version of Timmy, she’s actually a person who lives in the world that Timmy lived in, who just so happens to be Cosmo and Wanda’s next god-kid!
@@Rabbitlord108 Poof (or as he calls himself due to IRL issues with his original name, Peri) isn’t the only returning character who aged to show that time in the FOP-verse has marched on! There’s AJ (he’s now an adult built like The Kingpin from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse). And Crocker (he’s now an old man who’s trying (and failing) to get into AJ’s new paranormal research organization). And Foop (who had to age alongside Poof/Peri since he’s his Anti-Fairy counterpart). Long story short, you are indeed onto something!
Nah y’all on this man’s ass😭. I’ve already seen 3 videos on this same dude and his garbage video twice this morning😂.Tho it’s still just as entertaining as the first time. W video.
The moment that he said hazel is a race swap version of Timmy Turner that was the moment I stop watching and unsub also surprised he never mentioned miles morales spiderman Then again he would say miles is the same as Peter Parker spiderman by his own "logic"
I do find it funny that of the 3 character he brings up getting "race swapped" not only is Timmy incorrect, but April O'Neil is probably the 2nd most debated "race swapped" characters people bring up. Admittedly she wasn't ever black, bad faith actors just showed cherry picked images from the comics from after she got a perm, and people who don't know better look at this one image of what is ironically probably the palest she pretty much ever looks on the comics' covers and were like "oh, yeah, she is black" because of the perm. In the actual comic pages in black and white admittedly makes her kinda look black until she's next to a black character, where it becomes obvious that they actually color in black people's skin. (it has also been confirmed by people who worker on the comics that she was never intended to come across as anything but white) The only worse example I know of he could highlighted of the list he showed would be Starfire in Titans who has literally always been an yellow or orange skinned alien, not a white person. If anything Blackfire got whitewashed in Teen Titans Go, which was admittedly was to make it more visually obvious to children who was who, since they wear the same outfit and dye their hair to match the first episode she appeared.
I don't really understand why April O'Neil being a different race is such a big deal. It's still April who cares? The Velma thing is whole other can of worms. As for new wish that's clearly a sequel. This guy ask air or whatever his name is drop the ball hard. How could you not know the new protagonist name? It's Hazel not Timmy. The only way I can think of is he didn't see it and it's just ranting.
I think It's beacose people often forget that TMNT Is a multivers, April changed personality, age, looks and role in litraly evry adaptecion but once she's too different from the one they're usted to then they see It as a problem.
@@An0nym0usM_0 It's mostly this. She behaves WAY different than back in like..the TMNT show that was on nickelodeon (with red headed april, who had a thing with Donnie too). A lot of people are upset about ALL the characters in the most recent one, not just because April is black but because everyone acts much different than they're used to..Donnie is still the smart one but he's not antisocial and at some times concerningly ok with murder, raph isn't the hot headed violent one anymore, ect. It's just people being uncomfortable with large sudden changes. I at first practically recoiled with the new depictions 😆loved the art style though and designs! 🥺big spikey raph. It's honestly grown on me though tbh and I really like them, they have more depth now tbh
@@testerwulf3357 i agree the art style of ROTTMNT was eye-candy for me. But people need to understend that we can't have the same characters with the same personality same struggols same plot over and over. That would be just tiring and boring
@@An0nym0usM_0True. Once a multiverse is introduced all character consistency goes out the window. Superman is a nazi now? Multiverse. Batman is the Joker? Multiverse. Joker is the Batman? Multiverse. It can get some interesting “what if” scenarios, but frankly I’m tired of the multiverse. It unintentionally flattens the stakes to the floor and makes it pointless because even if “this” character dies, there’s literally billions of them out there. The story never ends. And that’s a bad thing, imo. Multiverses should stay in the realm of fanfiction. I hate’em.
Static, yes, but Cyborg was never a "black" character, as in, the show nor the character never focused on his race. He was a character who happened to be black. Even the "I'm part robot" line isn't just the writers dodging a bullet. Yes, most people think Cyborg would obviously say something about his race when Starfire asked him about prejudice, but the line actually makes sense to the character because Cyborg never experienced prejudice in regards to his race. Before his accident, he was a beloved athlete that was constantly praised. He only experienced prejudice after he became part robot, specifically because of that reason. If Cyborg had said "Of course I do, I'm black" that would not only get the show in hot water and make no sense to Starfire who doesn't see race, but would just be false to the character.
" If Cyborg had said "Of course I have, I'm black" that would not only get the show in hot water, but would just be false to the character." I mean, I think that's part of the reason why they did take the robot route there, especially since again in that scene, Starfire was specifically talking about her race of people. I'd say it's more like an allusion so they could make that point in that regard.
@@Mangakamen My view on this is somewhere between yours and Shady Doorags'. I don't think that one episode would have worked as well if Cyborg wasn't black because it subverts what people expect from a "racism PSA" episode by not only making someone other than the black guy receive the prejudice, but also having the black guy be ignorant of prejudice against his friend. That said, I wouldn't call Cyborg a "black" character outside of that one episode. In every other episode in the series, his race is incidental and never brought up. Most people in TT '03, even the villains, care more about who's good and who's evil than they do about anyone's race.
Can black characters not exist without some chronically-online white guy who refuses to go to therapy treating their very existence like a political issue? Like ever?
I think uncle ruckus is a great character for the boondocks. It’s helps show another aspect of the black community and his usage it’s great plus he’s funny and if someone said he was their favorite I’d sorta understand. But in context if this video it’s not a good look
10:10 What's funny about his comment on the Lion King remake (to me, at least) is that I feel like it'd have been more interesting if they _had_ made it some kind of fake nature documentary retelling the original film's story. The actual remake (from what I can tell, I don't care enough to watch it) just seems to be the original film with a couple of new scenes added in, different voice actors, and less appealing animation.
9:43 My boy Ryuji once again spittin' facts. For real Also, hinting at wanting to raceswap the one black Disney princess.... Dude was YIKES. I can see how this is one of the worst things you ever saw
Just because YOU don't see race doesn't mean other people don't. It matters more than just being a cosmetic quality to a character. In a perfect world it wouldn't but unfortunately we don't live a perfect world
Exactly. Like it or not, race IS important to a lot of characters (and REAL PEOPLE!) and you can’t just look past it. Dismissing it isn’t a good look. People think saying “I don’t see color” isn’t harmful, but it loops right back to being racist. You can’t just say “I am actively ignoring the metaphors for racial injustice. I don’t care about them and they don’t matter to me. I am not going to listen to this because it doesn’t affect me.” That’s not as innocent as people think it is.
That clip of Static talking about how good it feels to see another black role model/hero out there really kinda hit with me. Growing up black I always felt like I couldn't fit in the media I liked, and I always did feel a little happier seeing characters like Cyborg, Bumblebee, Susie, Number 5, Libby, Vince, and so much more. It felt like I could actually exist, despite how little that group of characters were. I'm an artist so I do one day want to make a mark on this world, and one day I hope I can do the same for other people who want to see themselves too. Nothing wrong with the characters I grew up with that weren't my color, I love them too, but it's just something else being able to see people like you exist as a kid that feels impactful.
@@pillowmoment This. Ignoring a characters race is equal to ignoring their personality or even clothing style and features..you might as well not care about anything. But they DON'T ignore actions and personality, just race..why is that? Because they're racist and don't realize it. Race impacts the story and characters A LOT! Each race has their own individual struggles, which can be showed off in an episode or several or even the whole series..it impacts how other characters interact with you, how you live, it impacts everything just like how your gender matters! Growing up as a boy is very different from growing up as a girl. Ignoring those struggles and differences is harmful.
@@testerwulf3357 And growing up Asian in America is different from growing up Asian in an Asian country. Yet if I watch a K-drama and don't actively consider the fact that every single character is Korean... I might as well not care about the characters at all, according to you. Yours is a more America-centric perspective than you may realize. I'll stick to letting context decide how relevant a character's ethnicity truly is.
1:30 A lack of research. Reminds me of when I made that commentary on Dobbs' Top 10 Biggest Pokemon knockoff list. Course a lack of research wasn't really my biggest problem with that video, it's the fact that he passed it off as a subjective issue when you can scientifically quantify how big of a knockoff something is and how he put _straight up bootlegs_ in lower positions on the list than they deserved. Even Robopon didn't deserve to be put above Pokemon "Vietnamese" Crystal (which I since learned actually came from China).
huh never knew Hazel Wells was a race-swap and gender-bend Timmy Turner, since she looks and acts NOTHING like Timmy but i guess being a kid with two fairies is enough to be Timmy
Seriously cannot believe what’s his name pulled out a worse version of the Im Not Racist My Friend’s Black card and then proceeded to pull the I Don’t See Color card, my brother in Christ you’re so caught up in Hazel’s skin color you can’t even focus on the episode contents, so happy the fandom’s dog piling him
6:21 you can tell he never actually saw the show because he called the character "Static Shock", that's not the name of the character, that's the name of the show
i'm really glad that i found these videos because i thought that the 'stephan hillenburg didn't want spinoffs' argument was proven true and i never thought to check 😭 really thankful i didn't bring it up anywhere or anything
Nothing wrong with being anti-woke. People are allowed their own opinions and perspectives, aren't they? The issue here is he is pointing his finger at the wrong thing. Yes, soulless tossed scrap race swaps like Ariel from The Little Mermaid are bad, says me, a man of Nigerian blood. In this case, because it is a completely seperate character, he is outright wrong from the start. It's a situation like Peter Parker and Miles Morales. Simple as that. Miles Morales is very much used for disingenuous political propaganda but the fact remains he is a different character and not a race swap.
@@DrCoeloCephalo Bigotry is a horrible thing. People should be judged solely on their actions, and not their ethnicity, nationality, gender, or sexual orientation.
Yeah I mean I agree that the plot of certain episodes in that show are cheap and corporate but the show is not race swap Velma is raceswap and self insert This is more of a”hello fellow kids” vibe mixed with diversity hire checkboxing in chatecters and stuff
Also you can tell his argument is terrible because he's using the "Red Head Replacement" Chart. For those that don't know, there's been this trend where red-headed characters get swapped with Black characters Many toss it off as a conspiricy nonsense, like with April O'neal due to her original mixed-race origins, but there is at least some proof of Hollywood taking that route, like how Starfire is actually based on Latina women but they made her black in the Titan's CW show because they didn't do their research But with, A New Wish, that argument doesn't work because, like Manga said, Timmy is already established and the world of FOP is heavily celebrated within the show itself, nevermind the fact that the Red Head chart is related to a differnt cultural topic entirely (i.e. the Irish, Annie, etc.)! You can't use that as evidence when its not even being used correctly
Her design was mostly based off a specific Latina woman, Iris Chacon. Iris Chacon is still white. Latino is a geographical group… Not a racial one. White latinos, black latinos, brown latinos, all of these exist.
@anubis7457 Yeah, I know, but it was still a good opportunity to cast a Latina regardless, especially since even though Iris is white, Starfire is orange and could've worked with that But remember this is the CW who loves to stereotype POC and LGBT into segregated roles, and most likely aren't thinking as hard as you and me
@@kendrillion7281 I knowed it that LEGO Batgirl is on it. That bothers me because: A) Catwoman and Two-Face were also depicted with tanner skin in The LEGO Batman Movie yet Batgirl is the only one that's considered as a "big deal" B) Much like with DC in general, the LEGO Movie universe dosen't take place in the same countinuity as the ones from the games and/or animation specials.
@@ariawen8476 There's a playlist called "The Lily Peet Problem" that goes over the reasons why people despise her, think of her as not a credible media analyst, and even consider her evil, explaining things better than I ever could. This includes videos from former collab partner Joshscorcher, now ex-friend ILoveKimPossibleALot, several by EssenseOfThought (who Lily allegedly S.H.'ed), and even from _Lily's own sister._ Granted, not all of them go into the "evil" angle, especially not the ones that pre-date the name "Lily Orchard".
Man I never thought to see MangaKamen back to their commentary style videos just because of that Fairly Oddparents critique video. But yeah that person is an example of a what happens if people get too focused on the Culture War on entertainment media, they only see anything as politics and even their "Criticism" are just nothing but a reflection of their mindset to me. That video is so bad that even content creators like MangaKamen decides to make a video responding to it. Honestly I rather stay neutral especially when it comes to entertainment media.
Yeah this is the kind of video that needs to exist, to call out the most blatant bullshit. It’s a genuine critique, that attacks integrity, and not a person
People are going to get mad over everything these days. Some people are so used to being the main characters that when the character doesn’t resemble them they get triggered. You did a very good job with this though
I'm wondering if A.S.K Air actually watched A New Wish before making his video on it, because that was an awful critique on a pretty good revival series.
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 It was incredibly racist. IDK how someone can put a joke like that in given the topic of the conversation should be handled with a lot of care since it is a sensitive topic.
I’ve been playing a lot of persona 4 and arena lately and the persona 4 music you used in the background made me think I accidentally left my PC or PS Vita on for a second
Honestly, it seems that around this time, in television, some reboots like the rise of the tmnt and the ben 10 reboot ( i heard it was good after s1) being unfairly bashed without giving it a chance sometimes
I did watch A.S.K. air before mainly his ben 10 and tmnt videos but none of them have felt this out of touch. Did I agree with all of his opinions? No but his statements in this video are so out of touch its ridiculous. 9:43 Ok that was a perfect edit.
Please be sure to leave a like and a comment, but also don't go after the original video's owner - We don't need to cause trouble.
That doesn’t stop some people my friend
@@lunastarz8703Still best to say it so they can't finger point at someone sicking their fans
I mean you put him on the spot here what do you expect?! 😂
Did it feel good to come back to your roots for one time?
Please do a on Kamen Rider specifically, maybe even talk about your favorite season.😊😁
This dude is like the physical embodiment of Twitter discourse. Complaining and nitpicking while simultaneously not really knowing what he’s talking about 💀
And that's the most frustrating part. Has this dude EVER sat down and think what he's talking about sounds reasonable? That he should learn WHY people complain about race swaps like Velma and he might not understand (In the case of Teen Titans Go and Ben 10) what the flaws of the shows even are in the first place?
But I guess it doesn't even matter cause a lot of the topics he's fighting about are things already talked about or resolved. NOTHING is being clarified and there is NOTHING new brought to whatever argument he's trying to make
@@Doobie-kx8fkthe main problem with Velma’s race swapping is that when they did it they replaced Velma with Mindy Kaling’s self insert but with the name of Velma. From what I could tell about the reboot FOP’s main character that she’s intended to be a completely different person than Timmy so making it not a race swap to begin with
Are you guys talking about MangaKamen or A.S.K. Air (I'm not very smart).
A.S.K.@@debbieganger
@@Beeeeeewwwww ok 👍
The old "its not about race" *proceeds to make it about race*
"it's not about race"
*complains about characters being made black in shows even if their race had no effect on their characters either way*
it may, in fact, be about race
@@sarafontanini7051 More like "it's not about race" **complains about characters being made black in shows even if their race had no effect on their characters either way** "Race shouldn't matter" **non-sequitur about the live-action Lion King which also isn't a reboot but a reimagining, which isn't the same thing**
@@sarafontanini7051
"I don't see race"
Proceeds to sob and piss about a character's race (not even) being swapped, even though he's supposed to not even see it.
You forget, you can only make it abt race when you’re being racist
@@yeetmeat2734 "I love all types of characters." Shows Uncle Ruckus.
“Guys I can’t believe jjba race swaped Jojo, he was a British guy and now he is half Japanese?!?!? Jojo went woke”
and then they turned him into a her why would they do this
@@trolledfordrip JOJO TRANSGENDER?!?!?!
JoJo going WoWo
@@wariowahwah580 WoWo Inclusivity Adventure
Woke-suke she-gashikata
"Rise of the TMNT was unfaithful to the source material."
Yeah, you know what else was unfaithful to the source material. Literally every series of TMNT in existence. Everything from the Games, to the movies, to the TV shows. None of them are faithful to the source.
ironically the 4kids cartoon, while taking its own direction at many points, is the closest any of the adaptations got to actually following the 'spirit' of the original comics, even being the first time some characters only seen in the comics appeared in the show. Hell, its why Stockman was black (and why he was blakc in following adaptations)
Again, the 80s TMNT show was drastically different from the original comics. 2003 (until Fast Forward) was far closer to the comics.
I'm not saying the 80s one is bad, it's just IMHO each iteration does their own thing, have their strengths and weaknesses, and it helps to make them stand out from one another.
I think we can all agree that All of the tmnt shows are good with ups and downs
For your sake please make sure razorfist doesn't read your comment.
Hell, tmnt 2012, my personal favorite of the series had an arc WHERE THE TURTLES ARE IN SPACE theres no cartoon thats 100% faithful
I wonder if he was aware of how Velma was bad because she is a bad character overall, not because she is a race swap character
it's possible to get a grasp from social media and other people's reviews on it.
It was part of the problem though
@@WeebGuru6It was till the trailer dropped, that's when it became a very small issue
@@fittedurge4763 nah it’s part of the problem
One does seem to often signal the other though. Oh sorry, I forgot pattern recognition was verboten in current year.
As a black person, in my opinion, this show works because it actually creates a new black character and doesn't change Timmy's skin. If you ask me how I feel about black representation, I would rather create a new character who happens to be black than change the skin of the original character
The only complaint I have is that I'm not a huge fan of the art style
@@Mangakamen
That explanation is easy where it comes, the answer is. "You're old! Get with the times old man!"
@@Mangakamen this is 100% valid to complain, because the art style does nothing to race skin. This guy in this video doesn't understand black representation, he complains about everything he saw black characters on TV 😒
@@Mangakamenyeah I can see that I think the 2d artstyle works better
I get what they tried to do with it but it’s not as strong as the original
@@Djwt845well that’s your opinion.
As much as I hate these type of videos, it’s always hilarious to watch the entire cartoon community absolutely drag someone for a couple of days
Like that one scene from Ted 2, where Ted was arguing with that one Boston neighbor. But then he and the neighbor join up to bash on the grandma that butted in.
Could use more references to them not using mentioning 9/11 for my tastes. lol
It’s always nice to see everyone in the community put their differences aside to call out some bullshit.
As Kendrick Lamar and a few other situations show. There's a beauty in seeing people band together.
@@fenrirsrage4609
You could say, we like to point out when people are….Not like Us…
Did he not realize that Timmy Turner and Hazel are different people? Has he not been paying any attention at all when watching this show?
I thought it was spelled Crocker
U think he watched it?
@@anamethename3327
Be thankful he forgot the 2nd C in the name.
It’s because from what I’ve seen people see characters of a similar ilk with a different race (like Hazel and Miles Morales) as basically being “the same character but black” I’ve seen this both online and from family members.
Cooker 😭
Video was so bad ya'll didn't even waste a MINUTE!
"I Never saw Cyborg or Static Shock as black characters!" The same damn cartoons that DEALT WITH RACISM Plots. Static Shock ESPECIALLY.
Interestingly that was the season's Kori episode in Teen Titans...and this is literally what Tamaraneans have to deal with when Blackfire, backstabbing royal court members like Xand'r/Brother Eternity and her Gordanean mooks aren't around in the comics...and Vic was like...alright we're letting your boyfriend know...and Kori tries to say wait, but Vic says...now.
I'm also thinking the whole reason why Nightstar gets so much flack as a ship over NightOracle?
Kori is both designed and written as an intergalactic black woman with long ginger hair...in love with a white man...and this is the interracial couple that is almost DC's second beta-couple outside of the Clois and Wally/Linda OTP's yet it gets dunked on because of some irritating Batfamily characters can only be with people from Gotham nonsense, especially when part of Nightwing's whole deal is he's like his Auntie Wonder Woman, half-Supes/half-Bat's and has his own city and own personality that has somehow turned into the 9th back alley of Gotham with a slightly happier Batman Jr. for no good reason. If Nightwing's best pal can have an interracial relationship...why can't he? *Yes Kori was always intended to be black, she's just as light as Trudy Proud.
My ass was like “What’s next, the Boondocks?” and then I died a little when Uncle Ruckus came on screen
Why was Mr. Krabs included!?
I still love Cyborg's line that goes like "I know how it feels, I've always been hated ...because I'm a robot"
brilliant bait and switch and a clever way to add comedy to a serious moment!
OG Teen Titans really was special from writing to animation
edit: the same clip was used in the video! told you it was great! I really love that episode, the antagonist is great too because he's not evil but he's an awful guy
Static Shock dealt with a lot of serious topics that i’m not sure would be allowed to talk on kids TV shows in today’s world
This video (the one being talked about with Kamenms video) was so bad it single handedly revived the entire commentary community
Reminds me of that one really bad Godzilla video that was floating around for a bit that the entire Godzilla community collectively agreed was ass.
I don't actually know anything about it, I just know it had tons of responses and the original video's probably gone now.
And said video only has little views to begin with
@@magdalenomartinezjr8805 Are you A.S.K. Air's ALT account?
@@magdalenomartinezjr8805 that's just how bad it was
@@RJS2003The Doctor Skipper video right
Using Patrick has an example of “raceswapping”?
Um… what
Gee what’s next the gems from Steven universe 💀
I think that person used the Patrick Star show as more of an example of a bad reboot/spin-off than raceswapping.
no his arguement jsut devolved into saying all reboots/sequels/retools are bad no matter what
@@sarafontanini7051more like raceswapping in reboots is bad. He kinda goes back and forth.
@@elliotsturtplus340they changed forms like 3 times! obviously!
First Cartoonshi, then Alpha Jay Show, and now MangaKamen came out to criticise this BS critique video. ASK Air totally screwed up.
It'll be worse for him if SaberSpark also makes a video of it.
he probably will
Bro definetly will
Not gonna lie, I kinda want to see Saberspark make a video to add to this as well.
What Ruined A.S.K Air
bro will be FINISHED if saber finds this
Static Shock had an episode about racism. How do you pull a I don't see color for that show
Yeah! Like, dude! How do you miss that?!
he covered his eyes and plugged his ears while watching it
There is nothing wrong with seeing color.
As long as you don't see the color as a bad thing.
so did Teen Titans
Not to mention it’s literally the *8TH EPISODE IN THE ENTIRE SERIES*
The video has constant racist undertones and fundamental misunderstanding of almost every property SHOWN ON SCREEN NOT EVEN JUST THE ONES SPOKEN ABOUT
I think the red flag wasnt JUST having Uncle Ruckus as his favorites, but him saying "I never saw them as Black Charactes" before having to immediately say "I love characters of ALL ethnicities" very much screams "Im not racist because I have friends who arent white!"
One of the characters he brings up as an example of black characters he likes, Static Shock, had his black identity as a major part of his character, there was a whole episode that was straight up about racism, so it’s kind of ironic how he could somehow ignore it there but can’t here
it's wild lmao, i'd have been more understanding if the topic of racism was completely untouched, but it wasn't. not that he'd know, he seems to have so little media literacy that even if it was laid out for him in baby terms, he'd miss it lol
A.S.K. Air's entire video sounds like a rant he made up in the shower, not something that should've put to video and posted for all to see. It's nothing but recycled talking points, assumptions, with a dash of ignorance and half cup of underlying racism.
@@matthewwilliams8267 True, the video is just him saying "They're disrespecful/unfaithful to the source material" while giving little to no examples on how.
I'm trying to figure out why Mr. Krabs was in the character scroll when he tried to defend himself by saying "I like characters of ALL ethnicities"
I do understand the importance of that episode being about judging people by their race, but people can relate to episode like this and not be black. As a black man who's grown up with dealing with ignorance of different people. That episode can hit home for multiple people of different race and/or backgrounds. That's why static shock is so popular like spiderman.
That also goes for cyborg. Sorry, copy post it from a either video I commented cover the video. Also I hate how people undermind the saying "I don't see race" means there judging them by their character, like how MLK literally dead for🤦♂️
While true none of what you said takes away from the fact that the episode wouldn't work if Virgil/Static wasn't black or poc. He used the "I don't see race" card but brought up examples of characters who are very intentionally a certain race and examples of them alluding to or outright dealing with negatives that come with said ethnicity. Him ignoring those aspects of the character is basically saying "even if these guys are poc I don't have to think about it and can even pretend they aren't" which isn't a good take especially when trying to deny hating Chloe solely cuz she's black.
Basically the "I don't see color" argument is doomed to fail every time cuz its rooted in the desire to ignore all color outright instead of just being cool with different ethnicitys.
@infinitezion2029
Granted, the part with Chloe was poorly done and should be criticized. That one of the best parts to this video. But saying that i don't see race is doomed to fail. Is like true stories like the freedom writers was a poor message because people in the story come together from different ethnicities to fine peace make the school better. Hell , one of the antagonists of a story was a white woman who thought the teacher was in the wrong for having the kids get chances because there from the hood or how Daryl Davis as able to have a KKK leader quite and help his community be a black man shows his beliefs were wrong. There's plenty of that are popular and untold. If that doesn't work for you, then whatever🤷♂️
A good story is a good story, even if you can't relate.
Yes people can relate to the episode and not be black. That doesn't change the fact that the character is black, and was deliberately written with their race in mind, so saying "I don't see their race at all!" is pretty stupid. Being able to relate to a black character's storyline as a non-black person doesn't change that the character's blackness shapes who they are
Seeing an entire cartoon community absolutely destroying his horrible video is satisfying
Yes it
Because that video is just awful. Lack of research, little to no examples, points that were off topic (the voice actors and that Hailey Bailey can't sing), contradictions, repetation and really nasty things (that unfunny sarcastic joke about Tiana in the end and the offensive deleted Family Guy edit)
2:27 Additonally, in the episode where Vicky comes back, Cosmo directly mentions Timmy by name
And Wanda.
That video is just insane. They could've just said "I don't like that New Wish" and left it that, even if it's an unpopular opinion but he had to make so many nothing excuses, borderline racist reasoning, disrespecting a dead man while victimizing the justifiable scapegoat for FOP's downfall, and then covering your ears when receiving pushback. Good way to kill your career.
Lord have mercy cause the internet is having none of it!
Im seriously sick and tired of people saying "They made Timmy Turner black!" Hazel is a completely different character. A New Wish is not a reboot, It's a sequel series. One that desperately needed to happen because they ran the original show into the ground. And i know it's nostalgia talking, but don't parse Timmy. Timmy was a brat. I loved the show, but I hated Timmy.
It’s because she resembles Timmy Turner enough for people to see her as a race swap. I’ve seen the same thing happen to Miles Morales.
I agree, but I'll be honest, as a black person. If I want representation based on my skin, I'd rather create A NEW CHARACTER that happens to be black than CHANGE RACE because it's cheap and lazy for having black representation. If you call me racist bc I didn't want the RACE CHANGE, now TRY TO THINK about this: If the original character was black and in movie changed his skin to be white, will get called out RACIST. But if the original was white and changed his skin to be black, won’t he be called racist??? Don't you see how stupid that is? I appreciate this show (the new wish) because it creates a new black character, not change Timmy’s skin. Yes I care about Black representation but change skin of original character isn’t POC representation.
@@littledog3553 you want representation? FFS you dont ask for representation this is how we got miles out of spiderman and it ruined his character.
instead of miles being brought up from the ground he became an insert able idea of what if spiderman was black instead of his own unique spiderman.
your self desire for representation is everything wrong with entertainment, and if you need a representor that is only allowed to be your color you are the racist PERIOD your view of skin and race is literally skin deep and you need help getting away from this whole race dogma you've entered.
this isnt about politics its about your views on yourself and others dispite their skin color
@@littledog3553 Holy shit. Literally, every race says this every time a character gets swapped to said race, we get it. A random comment section isn't gonna do shit about it. Nobody likes it, just rich assholes and corporations.
As someone who hates race swapping this firstly isn’t one.
Secondly it’s stupid to see her as a race swap considering she doesn’t replaces a character. As such it’s not possible.
Its also one of the better shows to show a „diverse“ new main character. She doesn’t resemble Timmy at all. Timmy isn’t a kid anymore. Hazel didn’t steal the Fearies.
They could have done something more with Timmy to make him less flawed but a sequel is also ok
Fun fact, he said it himself that he knows Hazel is not a raceswap but that he is critizing her because she's a black protagonist
I am not making this up, this guy's brain is on the 1700s
Bro might be one of the kkk
So he contradicts himself numerous times in the video. Got it 🤦🏾♂️
Oh, so he’s *racist*. Got it (WTF?).
i didn’t know Wheatley from Portal 3 had a youtube channel
"I'm not a racist, I just don't like the protagonist being black :("
The crazy thing is that hazel being black literally isnt even talked about in a new wish. Shes just a character tbat happens to be black. And shes a really good protagonist. I hate race swapping in media but he picked literally the worst example because it wasnt even a race swap!
I aways think its funny how someone can say "i dont need to see myself in the character" but throw a tantrum when they don't
it's always white people who complain about diversity because they get mad when something isn't about them
You know it's bad when MangaKamen gotta step up 💀😭
He disturb MangaKarmen's Sleep.
True, unlike Jar(Just a Robot) Kamen actively avoids these conversations, for obvious reasons. He's very non-political and I respect him for that. Just obviously, sometimes it's unavoidable like High Gardian Spice.
Hazel=Timmy.....how?
Racist?
Some people think that the show must be a reboot with Timmy still as the main character and don't bother learning it's actually a sequel with a new kid.
@@williamharmon4039 In fact, it being a sequel majes it better cuz they CONSTANTLY ADDRESS all the shit Timmy did
Cosmo, Wanda, I wish to be a black Girl😂🤣
He obviously doesn't know what a reboot is if he thinks batman beyond and ben 10 alien force are reboots when they're sequel series
He also called Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show reboots when they're spin-offs and also called the Disney live-action remakes reboots
I just can’t get over the uncle ruckus part. Out of all the characters, how did you just so happen to land on the worst one? He could have used an aggressive gangster and that would have been less problematic, how did he not think about this for more than 2 seconds
Cause he’s funny
"everyone secretly thinks the same things i do deep down" is such a self-obsessed way to view the world
That was very egotistical of A.S.K Air
Literally how people like this think
This si lily orhcard level of media literacy.
Media literacy is the "street smart" of media. Something made up so you can say your interpretation is the only right one. Dude is just an idiot
...dude. Don't go there. Lily's got some unique takes, but she's not even NEAR the level of this guy.
@@ariawen8476 Oh yeah she's definitely worse
@@ariawen8476 This is absolutely the level of "analysis" Lily has, the only real difference between the two is political leaning.
@@ariawen8476 I have suffered through the entire Steven Universe video.
6:24 Did he not see why putting Uncle Ruckus here was a bad idea.
8:26 So he complained about race swapping, while in the original video had the griffins black faced and Cleveland was white hypocrisy for 1.
It was especially a bad idea to include Uncle Ruckus because just like Static and Cyborg his race is extremely important to his character. If Uncle Ruckus was anything but African American the joke of him being delusional about his race while hating black people wouldn't make sense lmfao.
Cleavland’s wife was also white. I’m surprised they didn’t darken Brian’s fur at that point
@@cosmicspacething3474
That's weird they reace swap everyone but Brian
@@dimensionduelist4149 Yeah, A.S.K Air complains about race swapping and then process to do the same thing for a dreadful attempt at """humor""" (in three quotations)
@@cosmicspacething3474 Because accoring to A.S.K Air, dogs aren't race. But crabs are because he included Mr. Krabs as one of his favorite characters with race.
This is the third video I’ve seen on this guy
Same
Second for me, first was Alpha Jay.
@@MegaAnimazingThere's also Cartoonshi
2nd for me. More gotta be coming if his tripling down on Twitter is any indication.
Same
Honestly this exceeds even that one time Mr. Enter brought up 9/11 in his first Turning Red review since at least MrEnter admitted it was stupid whereas I can’t see A.S.K. Air growing out of being an Anti SJW
antis in general are just insufferable. When you hate something so much into obsession, you become a parody.
Only time will tell, at this point it's just a bad review that he just needs to acknowledge
With Enter I can kinda, sorta, see where he was coming from, but he was way off. But with A.S.K. Air it was a nuclear bad take
A.S.K. is literally coping and doubling down on his awful takes in his comment section and on Twitter it's embarrassing to watch.
I Saw critical drinker and others anti woke movie reviewer making way worst claim than this. I'm afraid it's already too late for Ask.
Makes me feel like this dude is stuck in an era we’re people were still hating on Teen Titans go.🐱
They still are but thats besides the point.
And Clarence, and Uncle Grandpa, and any show other than Steven Universe
@@SowerValler I'm glad we've moved on from that time.
To think that was over 10 years ago is insane. Sure people started shitting on people who still hated it 7 years ago, but that tells you that hate never fully dies off.
I hate that show, worse version of the original imo, but I wouldn't actively go after people for liking it..if they like it? Cool! I don't really enjoy something I liked being muddled down to just nonsense and potty humor (it's about equal to newer spongebob for me, both are bad imo for similar reasons..but I will say TTG is better by a bit as it does have some interesting elements)
A.S.K Air is clearly just a racist. It was evident by him calling Hazel "Black Timmy Turner" and complaining that "A New Wish" has a race-swapping problem when none of the characters in that show have been race-swapped, which also reveals that he likely didn't even watch the show, otherwise he would have noticed the many, many times other characters acknowledged the existence of Timmy Turner, showing that Hazel isn't a race-swapped Timmy.
Personally I don't he racist just really stupid.
Nah, it's more of him being a dumbass and didn't think about his wording.
My reply is not meant to counter your point as I fully agree with it. I will only add that whether people like it or not, North American culture is so imbued with both overt and subtle racist elements that even people who think they are not racist can actually be racist/prejudiced. I can tell this guy doesn't think he is racist because he's coming at it from a anti-woke/SJW mindset and using the color blind defense. Then again that Family Guy is more than enough for me not to defend him and simply just not watch his videos.
Not to mention him saying his never seen characters such as Cyborg and Static as “black” and for some weird reason added the comment of Halle Bailey and Zoe Zegler aren’t good singers which literally had no nothing to do with the topic of the video 💀
@@jonathanthompson4077 Rare person who understands that not all racists are ideological racists, if only everyone understood that itd be a lot easier to get rid of people like that.
And I thought Phantomstrider's worst cartoon reboots video was bad (As you pointed out in the past he called Extreme Ghostbusters a remake even though it was a continuation of The Real Ghostbusters with them coming back for the show's finale Back In The Saddle)
what he he say? I'm guessing it's old because Josh doesn't talk about cartoons anymore
@@dariogaelreyes7534Zion Kraze made a video talking about the list as a whole. While MangaKamen only talked about two segments.
Please tell me he wasn’t racist in that video bro strider is too wholesome😭
@@kllwtt He wasn't. The racism here is why I think it's worse.
@@kllwtt nah he's cool, it's a very old video he very much grew out of
This reminds me of when mrenter said that turning red needs 9/11
(Despite the film taking place in Canada 🇨🇦)
"TURN THE TV ON! THEY HIT THE PENTAGON!!!"
The biggest difference between this and the 9/11 Turning Red take is that the Turning Red take was just dumb. It wasn't horribly racist and bigoted.
@@addisonhigbee6269
And at least enter redeemed himself!
I don’t think this guy will ever!
@@calebpribyl5152Or at least not anytime soon. But you're probably right.
Yeah and he admitted that screw up I don’t think AFK is going to admit he was wrong
Ask Air's video was the very definition of yapping. He said nothing unique or original, just a bunch of anti woke talking points that have been regurgitated since 2016.
. . .
*is your profile pic Candace as Asuka?*
And he [A.S.K Air] claims that he's the first person to "exposed" reboots
There's another fundamental fact that was gotten wrong: Fairly Oddparents: A New Wish isn't a reboot, it's a sequel.
4:27 My thoughts exactly.
Wow Kamen! Even you’re getting in on dogpiling this crackpot of a user! Even if this isn’t what you work on these days, thanks for the content!
Anyways, I’ve heard this on Cartoonshi and Alpha Jay’s channels many times, and I need to say this here in regards to how that guy went after that show…
A New Wish is NOT a reboot. It IS a sequel, since Timmy is occasionally mentioned, and… HAZEL IS DIFFERENT FROM TIMMY. Timmy’s life utterly sucked, with incompetent parents, awful teachers, and Vicky… just Vicky. Hazel is a more down to earth character who, before running afoul of Vicky, had to deal with more relatable issues. Oh, and her parents love her and her teacher tries to help her to the best of his ability.
Long story short, you can have an opinion on Hazel, but know that she isn’t a new version of Timmy, she’s actually a person who lives in the world that Timmy lived in, who just so happens to be Cosmo and Wanda’s next god-kid!
Not to mention that Poof came back and he's aged a bit. Showing there's been some sort of passage of time between this and the original show.
@@Rabbitlord108 Poof (or as he calls himself due to IRL issues with his original name, Peri) isn’t the only returning character who aged to show that time in the FOP-verse has marched on! There’s AJ (he’s now an adult built like The Kingpin from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse). And Crocker (he’s now an old man who’s trying (and failing) to get into AJ’s new paranormal research organization). And Foop (who had to age alongside Poof/Peri since he’s his Anti-Fairy counterpart). Long story short, you are indeed onto something!
@@Nameless-ln5mr True. I just used him as an example.
Nah y’all on this man’s ass😭. I’ve already seen 3 videos on this same dude and his garbage video twice this morning😂.Tho it’s still just as entertaining as the first time.
W video.
The moment that he said hazel is a race swap version of Timmy Turner that was the moment I stop watching and unsub also surprised he never mentioned miles morales spiderman
Then again he would say miles is the same as Peter Parker spiderman by his own "logic"
I do find it funny that of the 3 character he brings up getting "race swapped" not only is Timmy incorrect, but April O'Neil is probably the 2nd most debated "race swapped" characters people bring up. Admittedly she wasn't ever black, bad faith actors just showed cherry picked images from the comics from after she got a perm, and people who don't know better look at this one image of what is ironically probably the palest she pretty much ever looks on the comics' covers and were like "oh, yeah, she is black" because of the perm. In the actual comic pages in black and white admittedly makes her kinda look black until she's next to a black character, where it becomes obvious that they actually color in black people's skin. (it has also been confirmed by people who worker on the comics that she was never intended to come across as anything but white)
The only worse example I know of he could highlighted of the list he showed would be Starfire in Titans who has literally always been an yellow or orange skinned alien, not a white person. If anything Blackfire got whitewashed in Teen Titans Go, which was admittedly was to make it more visually obvious to children who was who, since they wear the same outfit and dye their hair to match the first episode she appeared.
Off topic but love the new art style/design
I don't really understand why April O'Neil being a different race is such a big deal. It's still April who cares? The Velma thing is whole other can of worms. As for new wish that's clearly a sequel. This guy ask air or whatever his name is drop the ball hard. How could you not know the new protagonist name? It's Hazel not Timmy. The only way I can think of is he didn't see it and it's just ranting.
I think It's beacose people often forget that TMNT Is a multivers, April changed personality, age, looks and role in litraly evry adaptecion but once she's too different from the one they're usted to then they see It as a problem.
@@An0nym0usM_0 Ah.
@@An0nym0usM_0 It's mostly this. She behaves WAY different than back in like..the TMNT show that was on nickelodeon (with red headed april, who had a thing with Donnie too). A lot of people are upset about ALL the characters in the most recent one, not just because April is black but because everyone acts much different than they're used to..Donnie is still the smart one but he's not antisocial and at some times concerningly ok with murder, raph isn't the hot headed violent one anymore, ect. It's just people being uncomfortable with large sudden changes. I at first practically recoiled with the new depictions 😆loved the art style though and designs! 🥺big spikey raph. It's honestly grown on me though tbh and I really like them, they have more depth now tbh
@@testerwulf3357 i agree the art style of ROTTMNT was eye-candy for me. But people need to understend that we can't have the same characters with the same personality same struggols same plot over and over. That would be just tiring and boring
@@An0nym0usM_0True. Once a multiverse is introduced all character consistency goes out the window.
Superman is a nazi now? Multiverse. Batman is the Joker? Multiverse. Joker is the Batman? Multiverse.
It can get some interesting “what if” scenarios, but frankly I’m tired of the multiverse. It unintentionally flattens the stakes to the floor and makes it pointless because even if “this” character dies, there’s literally billions of them out there. The story never ends. And that’s a bad thing, imo.
Multiverses should stay in the realm of fanfiction. I hate’em.
Static, yes, but Cyborg was never a "black" character, as in, the show nor the character never focused on his race. He was a character who happened to be black. Even the "I'm part robot" line isn't just the writers dodging a bullet. Yes, most people think Cyborg would obviously say something about his race when Starfire asked him about prejudice, but the line actually makes sense to the character because Cyborg never experienced prejudice in regards to his race. Before his accident, he was a beloved athlete that was constantly praised. He only experienced prejudice after he became part robot, specifically because of that reason. If Cyborg had said "Of course I do, I'm black" that would not only get the show in hot water and make no sense to Starfire who doesn't see race, but would just be false to the character.
" If Cyborg had said "Of course I have, I'm black" that would not only get the show in hot water, but would just be false to the character."
I mean, I think that's part of the reason why they did take the robot route there, especially since again in that scene, Starfire was specifically talking about her race of people. I'd say it's more like an allusion so they could make that point in that regard.
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Eyeah but it was obviously it was a race metaphor as the whole episode theme was about racism!
@@RaidenNinBrovo, my good sir. You got how applicable prejudice actually works in all scenarios.
@@Mangakamen My view on this is somewhere between yours and Shady Doorags'. I don't think that one episode would have worked as well if Cyborg wasn't black because it subverts what people expect from a "racism PSA" episode by not only making someone other than the black guy receive the prejudice, but also having the black guy be ignorant of prejudice against his friend. That said, I wouldn't call Cyborg a "black" character outside of that one episode. In every other episode in the series, his race is incidental and never brought up. Most people in TT '03, even the villains, care more about who's good and who's evil than they do about anyone's race.
Hazel would be offended by this review.
Can black characters not exist without some chronically-online white guy who refuses to go to therapy treating their very existence like a political issue? Like ever?
This brotha gettin cooked from every channel 💔
I think uncle ruckus is a great character for the boondocks. It’s helps show another aspect of the black community and his usage it’s great plus he’s funny and if someone said he was their favorite I’d sorta understand. But in context if this video it’s not a good look
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What's funny about his comment on the Lion King remake (to me, at least) is that I feel like it'd have been more interesting if they _had_ made it some kind of fake nature documentary retelling the original film's story. The actual remake (from what I can tell, I don't care enough to watch it) just seems to be the original film with a couple of new scenes added in, different voice actors, and less appealing animation.
You gotta love how he says Lion King *remake* and then a few seconds later he calls it Lion King *reboot*
Thank you for using the Amanda clip. Static literally goes to Africa and says “in Africa I’m not seen as a Black kid, over here I’m just a kid”.
This guy seriously brought up the redhead replacement theory
This is the equivalent of Doktor Skipper's video about Godzilla.
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My boy Ryuji once again spittin' facts.
For real
Also, hinting at wanting to raceswap the one black Disney princess....
Dude was YIKES. I can see how this is one of the worst things you ever saw
Atp "woke" just means "anything slightly diverse that i personally don't like"
Just because YOU don't see race doesn't mean other people don't. It matters more than just being a cosmetic quality to a character. In a perfect world it wouldn't but unfortunately we don't live a perfect world
Exactly. Like it or not, race IS important to a lot of characters (and REAL PEOPLE!) and you can’t just look past it. Dismissing it isn’t a good look. People think saying “I don’t see color” isn’t harmful, but it loops right back to being racist. You can’t just say “I am actively ignoring the metaphors for racial injustice. I don’t care about them and they don’t matter to me. I am not going to listen to this because it doesn’t affect me.” That’s not as innocent as people think it is.
I agree on the context that you don't care but call it out when someone else does if you start this on your own your the problem
That clip of Static talking about how good it feels to see another black role model/hero out there really kinda hit with me. Growing up black I always felt like I couldn't fit in the media I liked, and I always did feel a little happier seeing characters like Cyborg, Bumblebee, Susie, Number 5, Libby, Vince, and so much more. It felt like I could actually exist, despite how little that group of characters were. I'm an artist so I do one day want to make a mark on this world, and one day I hope I can do the same for other people who want to see themselves too. Nothing wrong with the characters I grew up with that weren't my color, I love them too, but it's just something else being able to see people like you exist as a kid that feels impactful.
@@pillowmoment This. Ignoring a characters race is equal to ignoring their personality or even clothing style and features..you might as well not care about anything. But they DON'T ignore actions and personality, just race..why is that? Because they're racist and don't realize it. Race impacts the story and characters A LOT! Each race has their own individual struggles, which can be showed off in an episode or several or even the whole series..it impacts how other characters interact with you, how you live, it impacts everything just like how your gender matters! Growing up as a boy is very different from growing up as a girl. Ignoring those struggles and differences is harmful.
@@testerwulf3357 And growing up Asian in America is different from growing up Asian in an Asian country. Yet if I watch a K-drama and don't actively consider the fact that every single character is Korean... I might as well not care about the characters at all, according to you. Yours is a more America-centric perspective than you may realize. I'll stick to letting context decide how relevant a character's ethnicity truly is.
"Remember when they made Apu's actoe stop voicing him?" They didn't. He quit.
@@guyonyoutube3850 I'm so tired of people assuming that quit is the same as being fired
1:30 A lack of research. Reminds me of when I made that commentary on Dobbs' Top 10 Biggest Pokemon knockoff list.
Course a lack of research wasn't really my biggest problem with that video, it's the fact that he passed it off as a subjective issue when you can scientifically quantify how big of a knockoff something is and how he put _straight up bootlegs_ in lower positions on the list than they deserved. Even Robopon didn't deserve to be put above Pokemon "Vietnamese" Crystal (which I since learned actually came from China).
huh never knew Hazel Wells was a race-swap and gender-bend Timmy Turner, since she looks and acts NOTHING like Timmy but i guess being a kid with two fairies is enough to be Timmy
12:38 I was already planning on watching Gavv but thanks for reminding me kamen!
It's always "woke", "DEI", "identity politics", "cultural marxism", and it's never "I'm racist".
Keep telling yourself that. Especially when concord is the most recent example, one bad video doesnt change reality lmao
@@grthjryrd7552 concord was bad because it was bad
@@parkerbeck2335 yeah lets just pretend that many many people did not complain about the characters as well. Keep coping
Also alan wake 2, dustborn, gow ragnarok. Even content outside of videogames, you cant stay a useful regard forever. Grow out of it
Seriously cannot believe what’s his name pulled out a worse version of the Im Not Racist My Friend’s Black card and then proceeded to pull the I Don’t See Color card, my brother in Christ you’re so caught up in Hazel’s skin color you can’t even focus on the episode contents, so happy the fandom’s dog piling him
When your video is so bad it’s brings commentary kamen out of retirement
Oh boy even MangaKamen got involved >_
6:21 you can tell he never actually saw the show because he called the character "Static Shock", that's not the name of the character, that's the name of the show
i'm really glad that i found these videos because i thought that the 'stephan hillenburg didn't want spinoffs' argument was proven true and i never thought to check 😭 really thankful i didn't bring it up anywhere or anything
Wow, flashback to the old days of SkullKamen. Hope you regain back some sanity back MangaKamen.
Man this all just makes me want to see uou talk more about Kamen Rider. It looks so fun 😄
Hazel isn’t Timmy Turner.
So basically... he's one of those "anti-woke" guys.
Pretty much. No point disproving his claims when it boils down to "here's evidence why you're a cowardly racist"
Pretty much
Nothing wrong with being anti-woke. People are allowed their own opinions and perspectives, aren't they? The issue here is he is pointing his finger at the wrong thing. Yes, soulless tossed scrap race swaps like Ariel from The Little Mermaid are bad, says me, a man of Nigerian blood. In this case, because it is a completely seperate character, he is outright wrong from the start. It's a situation like Peter Parker and Miles Morales. Simple as that. Miles Morales is very much used for disingenuous political propaganda but the fact remains he is a different character and not a race swap.
@@DrCoeloCephalo Bigotry is a horrible thing. People should be judged solely on their actions, and not their ethnicity, nationality, gender, or sexual orientation.
@@DrCoeloCephalo Also, pretty sure that’s bullcrap about Miles being used a propaganda.
Yeah I mean I agree that the plot of certain episodes in that show are cheap and corporate but the show is not race swap
Velma is raceswap and self insert
This is more of a”hello fellow kids” vibe mixed with diversity hire checkboxing in chatecters and stuff
Not since synthetic man’s Fallout review have I seen take this bad.
Hurr durr race mixing propaganda
What was wrong with that one???
Not this all over again. This like just happened with Godzilla Minus One
Oh boy. Ain't that nice.
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Choke therapy is pretty effective
Also you can tell his argument is terrible because he's using the "Red Head Replacement" Chart. For those that don't know, there's been this trend where red-headed characters get swapped with Black characters
Many toss it off as a conspiricy nonsense, like with April O'neal due to her original mixed-race origins, but there is at least some proof of Hollywood taking that route, like how Starfire is actually based on Latina women but they made her black in the Titan's CW show because they didn't do their research
But with, A New Wish, that argument doesn't work because, like Manga said, Timmy is already established and the world of FOP is heavily celebrated within the show itself, nevermind the fact that the Red Head chart is related to a differnt cultural topic entirely (i.e. the Irish, Annie, etc.)! You can't use that as evidence when its not even being used correctly
Her design was mostly based off a specific Latina woman, Iris Chacon.
Iris Chacon is still white. Latino is a geographical group… Not a racial one. White latinos, black latinos, brown latinos, all of these exist.
@anubis7457 Yeah, I know, but it was still a good opportunity to cast a Latina regardless, especially since even though Iris is white, Starfire is orange and could've worked with that
But remember this is the CW who loves to stereotype POC and LGBT into segregated roles, and most likely aren't thinking as hard as you and me
@@kendrillion7281 I knowed it that LEGO Batgirl is on it. That bothers me because:
A) Catwoman and Two-Face were also depicted with tanner skin in The LEGO Batman Movie yet Batgirl is the only one that's considered as a "big deal"
B) Much like with DC in general, the LEGO Movie universe dosen't take place in the same countinuity as the ones from the games and/or animation specials.
Holy cow, He’s almost as bad as Lilly
I hope he doesn't reach the same amount of evil as lily orchard
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for a sec i was thinking of the song but who are you talking about
@@DavidDumbedDown Lily isn't evil though? Where the hell did you hear that?
@@ariawen8476 There's a playlist called "The Lily Peet Problem" that goes over the reasons why people despise her, think of her as not a credible media analyst, and even consider her evil, explaining things better than I ever could. This includes videos from former collab partner Joshscorcher, now ex-friend ILoveKimPossibleALot, several by EssenseOfThought (who Lily allegedly S.H.'ed), and even from _Lily's own sister._ Granted, not all of them go into the "evil" angle, especially not the ones that pre-date the name "Lily Orchard".
This worse than his The Downfall of TMNT video where it had some similar problems (except him lying about race swapping)
Yep
His video on the "Downfall" of TMNT 2012 was just him complaining that it isen't like the 2003 show. (He's a big fanboy of the latter show)
Why do people call it a reboot when it's not rebooting anything- It's a sequel or spinoff if anything
Man I never thought to see MangaKamen back to their commentary style videos just because of that Fairly Oddparents critique video.
But yeah that person is an example of a what happens if people get too focused on the Culture War on entertainment media, they only see anything as politics and even their "Criticism" are just nothing but a reflection of their mindset to me. That video is so bad that even content creators like MangaKamen decides to make a video responding to it.
Honestly I rather stay neutral especially when it comes to entertainment media.
I love how the Internet is cooking this guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah this is the kind of video that needs to exist, to call out the most blatant bullshit. It’s a genuine critique, that attacks integrity, and not a person
"Timmy Turner" and it's a whole new character
Timmy is bad because he is selfish, hazel is good character who help friends and more
This is the Godzilla minus one situation all over again
People are going to get mad over everything these days. Some people are so used to being the main characters that when the character doesn’t resemble them they get triggered. You did a very good job with this though
I'm wondering if A.S.K Air actually watched A New Wish before making his video on it, because that was an awful critique on a pretty good revival series.
It's quite clear that AIR didn't think this through while making the video... And damn Kamen, didn't know your sona is JACKED.
I downloaded the original video that had the family guy bit. Its astonishing he only looked back and removed this and not the entire video.
@@AgentNibbles That Family Guy bit was just... dreadful
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 It was incredibly racist. IDK how someone can put a joke like that in given the topic of the conversation should be handled with a lot of care since it is a sensitive topic.
I’ve been playing a lot of persona 4 and arena lately and the persona 4 music you used in the background made me think I accidentally left my PC or PS Vita on for a second
The video was so bad Manga Kamen came back for a commentary, lol.
He did the impossible
It seems to me that so many people don’t know what a reboot actually is
A.S.K Air clearly dosen't what a reboot is. He thinks sequel series, remakes and spin-offs are the same thing as reboots.
Honestly, it seems that around this time, in television, some reboots like the rise of the tmnt and the ben 10 reboot ( i heard it was good after s1) being unfairly bashed without giving it a chance sometimes
I did watch A.S.K. air before mainly his ben 10 and tmnt videos but none of them have felt this out of touch. Did I agree with all of his opinions? No but his statements in this video are so out of touch its ridiculous.
9:43 Ok that was a perfect edit.
Same. The moment I saw the thumbnail, I was like, WTF.
When was the last time that MangaKamen made a response to another UA-camr again? I mean, these videos are becoming a rare breed indeed.
bro is getting JUMPED by the whole commentary community and I’m here for it tbh
KAMEN DOING COMMENTARY VIDEOS AGAIN?????
Matpat’s Underfail 2 when?
i love how the whole community is jumping this guy
great vid kamen great vid