Great stuff sir. I bought a new house recently and I have reserved the Master Bedroom as my sim room. The wife and I don't need all that room to sleep and when I can get it put together I expect to spend a significant amount of my time on the Sim. Hoping my experience is similar to yours in improvement.
As long as the ball trace part is accurate it’s definitely beneficial, you don’t want to groove a bad swing based on the wrong ball flight. But they are great for working on the mechanics, grip feels, path etc, the convenience is big plus as well. I’m a drummer as well and spend just as much time on the practice pad as I do on the drums, that’s where all the kinks are worked out.
This is a good segway video for hitting off the deck on the tee box. I alot of the time think for my game not to hit off of a tee,i ferl im onto something. Godbless!
I have the monitor, mat and net. Just need to finish the set up with a screen and projector. Being able to see what the ball does beyond the 15 foot distance helps so much. Even hitting off a prefect lie helps the hand eye and body coordination tremendously.
Good simulators certainly can help, especially the ones that measure all the different parameters. I think it's up to the individual as to whether it helps them or not. I live in a place where SIM's are the only option for almost half the year, so I would go even if it didn't help, but I've found that it does, especially with driver. The biggest problem I find is that there is often an adjustment period for me going from mats to turf. The perfect lies are one reason, the other is the mats themselves. You can get away with hitting quite a bit behind the ball, and I find it's easy to train myself to do that on mats. Apart from that, and the fact that they don't help me with putting, simulators have helped me greatly in showing me how I can improve strike, ball speed, launch angle, and spin. The constant feedback helps me understand what I can do to get the best out of my swing basically. I mean if I feel like I'm doing something in my swing that delivers more speed through the ball, it's really easy to check that on a launch monitor, the numbers don't lie. As a matter of fact I picked up some ball speed with the driver this winter working on some of things that Marcus Edblad teaches. I also used my time on the simulator to try out balls and find which ones work the best for me. The only bad part about the ball testing is that it's always the more expensive ones that come out on top, basically the firmer 'tour' balls.
Absolutely 💯 yes ! A simulator will make you a better ball striker. It will not help your short game or putting . If a person can not achieve consistent solid compression on a mat there is no way it can be done on a golf course. If my kids or grandkids move out I will surely have a simulator because I love hitting golfballs. Nice shirt Chad.
Hahaha, I can relate with the kids my man. My grandpa had one "nice" shirt. It was a yellow golf shirt. He wore it when he would take me out with grandma to the fish camp to eat dinner when I was little. Aside from that, he constantly wore work overalls. Guess subliminally yellow became my favorite color, haha.
I hit shots into my garage simulator screen everyday. Several times a day I will hit 10-15 shots. Usually a 7 iron, but some 5 irons and some 9 irons. I have an artificial putting green behind my garage with a separate chipping mat. Practice does make a difference. However, I've noticed that most of the courses around my area have switched to mats on their driving ranges, which I loathe. If I am going to travel to a golf course to practice, I want to hit off of turf. There is a difference in the two surfaces. Mats are much more forgiving. I need to know if my indoor practice is going to produce good quality strikes off of real turf. Good video! Thanks for letting me rant.
Great point, and a legitimate gripe. Maintenance for golf courses is a really tough road, and the mats help them out a ton with that. However, it DOES defeat the purpose of real-world practice.
Great dissection of the range vs real argument. I must say, that as much as I love the range, the only thing that really translates to the course is club distances, especially wedge distance and trajectory.
Great video. One of the biggest things I learned from @Scotthogangolf is that you need to make sim golf much harder. So I’ve set pin placements to hard, greens fast, and anything more than a few feet out of rough a lost ball rehit. I do this keep score’s realistic. This past winter I worked a lot on swing path, swing speed, and smash factor as my main metrics. I’m hopeful this will translate to lower scores on course as I work to break 90. Keep up the good work, love the channel.
@@GolfTestDummy Thank you, I have been using the overlapping grip, lately I've had some pain in my right little finger so, I was experimenting with a ten finger grip.
Yes, yes and yes! It does improve your game. What does not do excuse playing on a hilly course. If found I hit 8/10 shots flush, and accurate thanks to the SIM golf. At my Club course built in 1890 we have Par 5 up hills down hills and you often balls well be low your feet, or well above your feet! Here the SIM cannot help just course practice helps. As regards Time I for one find 5 hours hard to find to enjoy 18 holes, reality is I play when 95-100 rounds 9 hole rounds,= 90mins so I can get this in mid-day using flexi time, mid week. Come the weekends I play 20-25 yearly 18 hole tournaments same course 4 hours! Slow play! Backed up tee boxes, time I cannot afford, with a young family. The SIM golf I get my 18 fix in, bofore 8am on a Saturday, is how I see many local courses. Ok the R10 spin axis is still out (come on Garmin!) but so what , .
Haha, yeah, Garmin lacks on spin, but the metal dot fixes that.... mostly. Side hill and uphill/downhill are tough to simulate, unless you have Golfzon.
It depends entirely on how you use the simulator and practice. Ideally you will help groove a better swing practicing there. I love the time you save playing in a simulator but accept that replicating the harder shots (different lies in particular) is expensive and difficult
Saying that indoor practice isn’t worth must be on something. Practically every pro has one and it helps you groove your swing. Instead of hitting ball after ball at the range you can take your time, record your swing, and make big improvements. With sim tech improvements you don’t need to spend over $1k, especially with the new rapsodo. Once my kids outgrow the play set I’m putting in a daddy shed with virtual golf!
How can you think you don't get better by practicing? I don't understand the people who say that. Golftec, one of the largest golf instruction organizations in the world, provides instructions indoors! Many pros work on things indoors. I recall seeing several Bryson videos hitting into the net. Thanks for being honest on the fact this helps you. I find a hard time determining the golfer who would not benefit.
Same here. It's difficult to understand, but there are still plenty of people who don't think that it stacks up. Now, I'll agree that the indoor practice needs to be tempered with the real thing, but indoors I a fantastic way to get in reps.
I have an interesting story about simulators. Before I retired in 2009 I worked as an airline pilot. The last ten years I flew an Embraer 145. That is a 50 seat Brazilian made twin engine jet. I did all my training for that aircraft in a simulator. After simulator training we had to fly passenger service for about 20 hours with a training Captain acting as the Co-Pilot. After that we were fully qualified to act as Captain in that aircraft. The first time I had ever seen one of those planes in person and been onboard it was the first time I flew passengers on it. It was a flight leaving O'hare airport with 50 passengers, one flight attendant, and an FAA Inspector sitting in the jump seat. So I believe simulators have some value.
Great stuff sir. I bought a new house recently and I have reserved the Master Bedroom as my sim room. The wife and I don't need all that room to sleep and when I can get it put together I expect to spend a significant amount of my time on the Sim. Hoping my experience is similar to yours in improvement.
Oh wow! Congrats! Wishing you the best of luck in your build, and have a lot of fun with all of it.
As long as the ball trace part is accurate it’s definitely beneficial, you don’t want to groove a bad swing based on the wrong ball flight. But they are great for working on the mechanics, grip feels, path etc, the convenience is big plus as well.
I’m a drummer as well and spend just as much time on the practice pad as I do on the drums, that’s where all the kinks are worked out.
Very well put, and a solid bit of logic.
Great Vid as always mate 😊
I'm sure you can attest to what a huge help indoor practice can be, haha. #bombs
@@GolfTestDummy absolutely 💯 also the fact that when it’s raining outside we can still play and get targeted practise in 😁
found it really valuable to practice shapes with swing path and such in sim
Oh yeah, absolutely. The data points and watching the shot tracer are really helpful for that.
This is a good segway video for hitting off the deck on the tee box. I alot of the time think for my game not to hit off of a tee,i ferl im onto something. Godbless!
Thanks, Taylor!
I have the monitor, mat and net. Just need to finish the set up with a screen and projector. Being able to see what the ball does beyond the 15 foot distance helps so much. Even hitting off a prefect lie helps the hand eye and body coordination tremendously.
You got it. Sure you never have a perfect lie outside, but trying to groove your swing and get it straight is best under controlled circumstances.
Great video. Any kind of practice you can get in will be helpful.
You got that right. Keeping it sharp, grooving something new, identifying weak spots, being aware of changes, etc.
Great video, man!
Thanks, Troy!
Good simulators certainly can help, especially the ones that measure all the different parameters. I think it's up to the individual as to whether it helps them or not. I live in a place where SIM's are the only option for almost half the year, so I would go even if it didn't help, but I've found that it does, especially with driver. The biggest problem I find is that there is often an adjustment period for me going from mats to turf. The perfect lies are one reason, the other is the mats themselves. You can get away with hitting quite a bit behind the ball, and I find it's easy to train myself to do that on mats. Apart from that, and the fact that they don't help me with putting, simulators have helped me greatly in showing me how I can improve strike, ball speed, launch angle, and spin. The constant feedback helps me understand what I can do to get the best out of my swing basically. I mean if I feel like I'm doing something in my swing that delivers more speed through the ball, it's really easy to check that on a launch monitor, the numbers don't lie. As a matter of fact I picked up some ball speed with the driver this winter working on some of things that Marcus Edblad teaches. I also used my time on the simulator to try out balls and find which ones work the best for me. The only bad part about the ball testing is that it's always the more expensive ones that come out on top, basically the firmer 'tour' balls.
Great input and points here. And for someone like you and Marcus, when there is quite a bit of Winter weather, it's an absolute game changer.
It’s worth it. I don’t have a sim but even just swinging a club in the backyard helps me a lot . A sim may be in my future .
They're becoming more affordable and it's not as rare for people to have them.
Absolutely 💯 yes ! A simulator will make you a better ball striker. It will not help your short game or putting . If a person can not achieve consistent solid compression on a mat there is no way it can be done on a golf course. If my kids or grandkids move out I will surely have a simulator because I love hitting golfballs. Nice shirt Chad.
Hahaha, I can relate with the kids my man. My grandpa had one "nice" shirt. It was a yellow golf shirt. He wore it when he would take me out with grandma to the fish camp to eat dinner when I was little. Aside from that, he constantly wore work overalls. Guess subliminally yellow became my favorite color, haha.
I hit shots into my garage simulator screen everyday. Several times a day I will hit 10-15 shots. Usually a 7 iron, but some 5 irons and some 9 irons. I have an artificial putting green behind my garage with a separate chipping mat. Practice does make a difference. However, I've noticed that most of the courses around my area have switched to mats on their driving ranges, which I loathe. If I am going to travel to a golf course to practice, I want to hit off of turf. There is a difference in the two surfaces. Mats are much more forgiving. I need to know if my indoor practice is going to produce good quality strikes off of real turf. Good video! Thanks for letting me rant.
Great point, and a legitimate gripe. Maintenance for golf courses is a really tough road, and the mats help them out a ton with that. However, it DOES defeat the purpose of real-world practice.
Great dissection of the range vs real argument. I must say, that as much as I love the range, the only thing that really translates to the course is club distances, especially wedge distance and trajectory.
Playing and practicing are very different, you're right. On course practice is just as important as the range in my opinion.
Great video. One of the biggest things I learned from @Scotthogangolf is that you need to make sim golf much harder. So I’ve set pin placements to hard, greens fast, and anything more than a few feet out of rough a lost ball rehit. I do this keep score’s realistic. This past winter I worked a lot on swing path, swing speed, and smash factor as my main metrics. I’m hopeful this will translate to lower scores on course as I work to break 90. Keep up the good work, love the channel.
Man thats a fantastic idea. Love that, and I'll try implementing some of that myself.
Love my R-10
do you use a baseball grip?
I do.
@@GolfTestDummy Interesting
I have a lot of hand and wrist pain, and during my Single Plane review a while back, I tried the 10 finger grip and it's just much easier on my hands.
@@GolfTestDummy Thank you, I have been using the overlapping grip, lately I've had some pain in my right little finger so, I was experimenting with a ten finger grip.
Yes, yes and yes! It does improve your game. What does not do excuse playing on a hilly course. If found I hit 8/10 shots flush, and accurate thanks to the SIM golf.
At my Club course built in 1890 we have Par 5 up hills down hills and you often balls well be low your feet, or well above your feet! Here the SIM cannot help just course practice helps.
As regards Time I for one find 5 hours hard to find to enjoy 18 holes, reality is I play when 95-100 rounds 9 hole rounds,= 90mins so I can get this in mid-day using flexi time, mid week.
Come the weekends I play 20-25 yearly 18 hole tournaments same course 4 hours! Slow play! Backed up tee boxes, time I cannot afford, with a young family.
The SIM golf I get my 18 fix in, bofore 8am on a Saturday, is how I see many local courses. Ok the R10 spin axis is still out (come on Garmin!) but so what , .
Haha, yeah, Garmin lacks on spin, but the metal dot fixes that.... mostly. Side hill and uphill/downhill are tough to simulate, unless you have Golfzon.
It depends entirely on how you use the simulator and practice. Ideally you will help groove a better swing practicing there. I love the time you save playing in a simulator but accept that replicating the harder shots (different lies in particular) is expensive and difficult
I love that there is never a crowd in my garage, haha
Saying that indoor practice isn’t worth must be on something. Practically every pro has one and it helps you groove your swing. Instead of hitting ball after ball at the range you can take your time, record your swing, and make big improvements. With sim tech improvements you don’t need to spend over $1k, especially with the new rapsodo.
Once my kids outgrow the play set I’m putting in a daddy shed with virtual golf!
Absolutely. Lots of good points, and good luck on your sim build!
Of course it does
Completely agree.
How can you think you don't get better by practicing? I don't understand the people who say that. Golftec, one of the largest golf instruction organizations in the world, provides instructions indoors! Many pros work on things indoors. I recall seeing several Bryson videos hitting into the net. Thanks for being honest on the fact this helps you. I find a hard time determining the golfer who would not benefit.
Same here. It's difficult to understand, but there are still plenty of people who don't think that it stacks up. Now, I'll agree that the indoor practice needs to be tempered with the real thing, but indoors I a fantastic way to get in reps.
I have an interesting story about simulators. Before I retired in 2009 I worked as an airline pilot. The last ten years I flew an Embraer 145. That is a 50 seat Brazilian made twin engine jet. I did all my training for that aircraft in a simulator. After simulator training we had to fly passenger service for about 20 hours with a training Captain acting as the Co-Pilot. After that we were fully qualified to act as Captain in that aircraft. The first time I had ever seen one of those planes in person and been onboard it was the first time I flew passengers on it. It was a flight leaving O'hare airport with 50 passengers, one flight attendant, and an FAA Inspector sitting in the jump seat. So I believe simulators have some value.
Haha, wow, that's pretty amazing stuff.