The Capitalist Hero - The Individual and the Collective in Rising of the Shield Hero

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • The first of a two-part discussion about the depiction of Capitalist ideals in modern shounen anime.
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  • @ExplanationPointAnime
    @ExplanationPointAnime  5 років тому +392

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    • @Remi0dd6
      @Remi0dd6 5 років тому +3

      So is this a face reveal?

    • @seanconk6808
      @seanconk6808 5 років тому +4

      capitalize the industry my friend

    • @dragon1130
      @dragon1130 5 років тому +3

      Available in, America and, Other America.

    • @davifelizardo4187
      @davifelizardo4187 5 років тому

      GIVE ME THE HERO ACA VIDEO NOW!

    • @kronos200
      @kronos200 5 років тому +1

      Explanation Point YOU LEFT THE TOSTER ON DAMN IT RUN!!!

  • @Sparkle5fanboy
    @Sparkle5fanboy 5 років тому +1675

    I just realized in the middle of watching this video. Naofumi is a pokemon Trainer. He can't fight for himself and can only defened and support. His pokemon a Senret called Raphtalia which he quickly evolves into a Furret. Then down the line he got a Togepi egg which he name Filo that he then trained into a Togekiss.
    And the evil orginzation is the Church of the three hero's.
    Wow, Did I just uncover the plot for Pokemon shield?!

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +173

      Do I have to feed Eevee part of a zombie dragon to get a dragon type eeveelution?

    • @Sparkle5fanboy
      @Sparkle5fanboy 5 років тому +172

      @@MrDj232 Don't be ridiculous...
      That's how you get a ghost type.

    • @alkorkrus5152
      @alkorkrus5152 5 років тому +13

      I certainly hope so!

    • @S.A.O.D.A
      @S.A.O.D.A 5 років тому +20

      Yeah, in the first few episodes maybe. He very muvh can fight for himself for the rest of the series though, and beat most people too.

    • @caitthecat
      @caitthecat 5 років тому +14

      How have I never realized this before??? What about Melty? Some water Pokemon whose mother is a Jynx.

  • @Bumbillion
    @Bumbillion 4 роки тому +290

    I had almost the opposite interpretation as you in terms of the way Naofumi sees people. I saw him as an unreliable narrator due to the fact that we never actually see any of those "deferred payments" collected. I think that he feels he can only operate in a transactional manner to make sure that he doesn't get betrayed again because he's holding something over people, and we see him gradually move away from this model as the series progresses. The takeaway i got for why he succeeds is because he doesn't treat the world like a videogame whereas the other heroes do. They think that when the "questline" is over there won't be consequences for their actions and don't bother to hang around to see what happens.

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 4 роки тому +58

      I agree. He had to do whatever it took to make up for his lack of an advantage. The capitalist interpretation isn’t supposed to be the main takeaway but I think it is there just not what the story cares to focus on.

    • @sarahmellinger3335
      @sarahmellinger3335 2 роки тому +18

      Naofumi is a unrelenting pessamist and that gives him the advantage

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 7 місяців тому +4

      @@sarahmellinger3335 Fair point. That still doesn't work in reality, though. Gen. Eisenhower said, "Pessimists don't win wars," and this is largely from his personal experience at winning war while being an optimist. I would argue that Naofumi thinks he's a pessimist, but the fact he tries at all - that he thinks it's worth trying to exist at all after his mistreatment - shows that he's at least somewhat of an optimist.
      (sorry if you're seeing this comment twice in your notifications. UA-cam on my phone is glitchy)

  • @isdel9474
    @isdel9474 4 роки тому +95

    I'd say that Naofumi actually embodies the ideal of a philosophy known as Egoistic Altruism, which is basically the good neighbor philosophy -- I will do good if the people around me are doing good, so I should behave altruistic to my neighbors so I too can prosper. At first, he's severely hesitant to follow this ideal, as his altruism laid the groundwork for his betrayal. Over time, he learns more about Raphtalia as a person and sees her self-sacrificial behavior almost akin to weakness. She even proves how selfless she is when she tends to Naofumi's wounds after he uses Rage Shield, instead of he own. Through this, he's seen that his complete focus on his own self and own emotions can manage to hurt the people he's close to. Every time he's used Rage Shield, he's been a danger to himself or the people he cares about.
    On the other hand, I'd say that the Randian Objectivism is more in tune to that of the Heroes, though less about being a prosperous merchant and more in tune to that of being a celebrity. Rand's philosophy considers famous celebrities as parts of the ideal Objectivist, because everyone follows their lead, even in infamy. The Heroes -- especially Motayasu -- are very self absorbed individuals who yearn to live up to the ideal of being a hero. They live by their own conventions and ideas, wantonly slaying dragons, murdering lords and liberating serfs, and deliberately ignoring rules about. In their self-absorption and constant pursuit of ideals, they've managed to leave tons of damage in their wake.
    Myne herself is inconsiderate and a total objectivist in her own right. She's using her power and wealth to elevate herself, implicating Naofumi (an already disliked person) as a national threat and enemy. In the process, she's getting close to both the Heroes and royal legitimization.
    I think the show is trying to have a conversation about what is self-interest vs self-absorption and how a person can keep their individuality and self-interest without chasing ideals or being callous.

    • @NoraNoita
      @NoraNoita Рік тому +6

      yeah I like this take a bit more than straight up capitalism.

  • @hamos4744
    @hamos4744 5 років тому +522

    Thank you for not doing a week long pemier this time lol. I appreciate it.

  • @rladudgns15
    @rladudgns15 5 років тому +187

    Hospitals are legally not allowed to refuse emergency patients in America. They will be charged with ludicrous amount of CURRENCY since there is corrupt relationship between insurance companies and hospitals, but still, broke patients still can get their treatment.

    • @Lin-ij9vk
      @Lin-ij9vk 5 років тому +3

      Well to be fair hospitals don't make much money even from government funds/donations. the finance department in a hospital carries a far heavier burden than typical private businesses.

    • @josepheastham9717
      @josepheastham9717 3 роки тому +5

      Its funny that he thinks people without currency can't get care in the US.

    • @jaydenslaptop
      @jaydenslaptop 3 роки тому +4

      Healthcare costs money. If you want a expensive rare treatment than it’ll be expensive.

    • @nbewarwe
      @nbewarwe 3 роки тому

      @@jaydenslaptop so poor people with cancer should just die then?

    • @cerdon4076
      @cerdon4076 2 роки тому

      @@nbewarwe Why do you think "inventing the cure for cancer" is such a common phrase. Its not because curing cancer would help people. Its because curing cancer would make you rich. Let me be clear, U.S. healthcare is a cesspit, but one good thing is that patent laws and such are a major reason why big pharma 'loves' America, and why those cancer treatments exist in the first place.
      While you will always be accepted into the ER if your leg was cut off, no matter the currency, trying to get long term prescriptions will prove more difficult even if just as necessary. But what value difference is there between dying in America because you couldn't afford a regular checkup and dying in the UK because your surgery has been delayed for 6 years. At least in the US you can earn your life rather than throwing the dice.

  • @bdk336
    @bdk336 5 років тому +629

    Honestly I'm not sure Shield Hero is really trying to push a capitalist ideal as much as you're portraying here. Yes Naofumi as a character embodies it but while he makes the world around him better he certainly isn't solving all the problems present. Additionally much of the advantage he has over the other heroes in terms of success at heroing is due to pragmatism less than capitalistic tendencies.
    Yes the show focuses on individuals and individual corruption but that doesn't mean it's trying to say that all problems are solved if you just deal with the bad individuals, as far as I can tell there are still plenty of problems in areas after he leaves them. Overall I like the analysis but you seem to be treating the show as if it's working in absolutes.

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +188

      Which is hilarious, because the main reason the other heroes screw up is because they treat it as a video game operating on simple absolutes rather than a real world.

    • @robynhoodie
      @robynhoodie 5 років тому +146

      In that regard its important to consider the difference between capitalism in america and japan. Japan is more collectivist in its mind set as opposed to american individualism. While still hyper competitive, Japanese people are often expected to have loyalty to the company they work for and will typically work for the same company their whole life. In turn ceo's are expected to take care of those under them. With 60+ hour work weeks coworkers become your only friends and you help your friends. Promotions happen internally rather then hiring someone successful from another business. So the pragmatism you described is the capitalist ideal in japan, trusting a system that will give you a return on long term investment because those below you are obligated to give more back.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +59

      @@robynhoodie Which countrys language has a word for death by overworking again?

    • @robynhoodie
      @robynhoodie 5 років тому +91

      @@Christian--- hey I said its the ideal i didn't say it works in practice. The societal pressures to put everything you have into your work are higher there. As is the pressure to conform. But when you look at the way they think about obligations of those with wealth they expect them have a higher standard to society too. There is an anime clip about an american villian who's power is based on how much money he spends and the Japanese hero defiantly tells him wealth should be used lift up others rather then just yourself. In practice Japan is probably the mist burnt out country in the first world but the ideal is that every citizen has the common good in mind, be it for their company or their country.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +18

      @@robynhoodie Nor did I say you said it works in practice, so we're cool.

  • @NAGleader
    @NAGleader 5 років тому +186

    This was enjoyable, as such I will continue to give you "the time", which converts to "the currency"

  • @vgarzareyna
    @vgarzareyna 5 років тому +86

    Remember when Kurt was a SAO abridged character? Yeah, me neither...

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher 5 років тому +16

      Who's Kurt? I only know BallsDeep69.

    • @vgarzareyna
      @vgarzareyna 5 років тому +2

      @@eldorados_lost_searcher you didn't watch EP's videos on SAO ABRIDGED, did ya?

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +2

      @@vgarzareyna my dude.

  • @shadoeboi212
    @shadoeboi212 5 років тому +100

    The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay.

    • @smile-tl9in
      @smile-tl9in 5 років тому +24

      which in itself is governement intervention, wich capitalism hates

    • @smile-tl9in
      @smile-tl9in 5 років тому +37

      and it doesn't prevent people to get bankrupt by the bill, and end up dying of cold in the streets because they failed to pay the rent; or let an otherwise easily tratable illness get worse and worse until it becomes life treatening and go in ER because they cannot pay the bill and hope they can tough it up ; or the diabetic to be unable to pay for insulin get into ER for an diabetic shock, get trated, still be unable to get insuling, make another schow and so on and so forth until their body cannot take it anymore and they die.
      It is deplacing the problem really.

    • @shadoeboi212
      @shadoeboi212 5 років тому +11

      @@smile-tl9in unrestrained capitalism is amoral. Not restricting capitalism is Immoral .

    • @shadoeboi212
      @shadoeboi212 5 років тому +14

      @@smile-tl9in i didn't say it was an 'effective' system just that there were Some safeguards. Personally i think health care is a Right and deigning a person things they need to live is immoral. State run single payer seems to work better then the US system . it wouldn't be the first time the US set up state monopolys for the general good (public utilities )

    • @smile-tl9in
      @smile-tl9in 5 років тому +2

      @@shadoeboi212 you preach to a convert my friend ^^

  • @Wabbradford
    @Wabbradford 5 років тому +110

    "Watching someone step from second place to first is far less engaging and cathartic than watching someone rocket up to first place from not even on the leaderboard"
    Afro Samurai: Am I a joke to you?

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah it’s better to watch this an ishekai where the MC is a god by the end of the third episode.

  • @S.A.O.D.A
    @S.A.O.D.A 5 років тому +204

    This is one hell of a stretch. Frankly, I very much doubt the author had this at all in mind when writing the story. Naofumi isn't some sort of hardline capitalist: the only reason why he demands payment for things is that keeping some semblance of a professional relationship between him and needy strangers "protects him" from forming relationships in which he might be betrayed, and to prevent people from taking advantage of his kindness. After all, as you said, he will heal you essentially for free if you can't pay. He is just as altruistic as any other hypothetical hero, in both his business desicions and not, (as seen when kicking himself for not getting there in time to save more villagers in the first wave and sparing Myne- err Bitch's and Trash's life lmao). As for the bandits, the whole discussion between Raphtalia and the merchant was stupid; who in their right minds thinks "stealing" from bandits who just tried to rob you is as bad as robbing and killing innocent people on the road? It's like saying killing an assassin sent to kill you makes you just as bad as they are. Also, again, Naofumi spared Myne: there's no way in fucking hell he would have actually killed those bandits.
    The 3 other heroes' actions were also portrayed weirdly in this video: they didn't fuck up their quests _because_ they were altruistic (they fucked up because they thinknof the world as a videogame due to their prior experiences and weren't taking it too seriously as a result, Naofumi who's never been in a VR world before natutally is more reverent of his role as a hero), so it is not a rebuke of altruism in favor of capitalism.
    The whole economics slant was also kind of shoehorned in. I mean, you seem to portray Naofumi's accumulation of wealth as part of his "Rise" when in reality, it isn't. He doesn't even do anything that affects his hero work with it besides crafting acessories and buying a few things here and there. None of his allies, reputation or skills (i.e. his only valluable assets) are gained through wealth. We almost never see him even spend money. Once again, Naofumi chasing after wealth (or rather pretending to) is just a means to protect himself socially.
    To be honest, I'm not knocking the fact that you view the series through this lens or anything, but I personally just am not convinced.
    Oh, and as for the hospital example, you forgot to add the part where nobody pays, the hospital gets shut down, and now NO one recieves treatment.

    • @k96man
      @k96man 5 років тому +31

      This show makes much more sense when you realize Japan's justice system it's kind of messed up

    • @DarthJami
      @DarthJami 5 років тому +21

      Tbf, his sparing of Myne was far more due to the Queen's "moderating" influence than out of valuing her life.

    • @TheCurseofGatau
      @TheCurseofGatau 5 років тому +29

      Thank you - this is exactly what I was thinking. Particularly about the other heroes being "altruistic" which simply was not true but you put it much better than I could have. Cheers.

    • @S.A.O.D.A
      @S.A.O.D.A 5 років тому +9

      ​@@DarthJami Debatable. Point is though, sparing the life of someone who ruined yours is a very, very far cry from executing tied up captives.

    • @DarthJami
      @DarthJami 5 років тому +15

      The Sword Art Online Dickriding Association Definitely. I also totally agree on Raph and the merchant’s conversation being really weird; saying “no u” to highway robbers is a far cry from *being* highway robbers

  • @EssenceofreigN
    @EssenceofreigN 5 років тому +182

    I was really looking forward to more videos from you! Love your content!

  • @MrDj232
    @MrDj232 5 років тому +226

    This is a very strange take on Shield Hero. Naofumi becoming a merchant was largely an act of necessity because the king refused to provide him the funds every other hero got. He demands payment before helping people, but can't resist his better nature and so winds up making barters or accepting debts. This is a conflict between his empathy as a decent human being and the anit-social apathetic behavior of his depression. He actively shuns his title as a savior by acting gruff and business like to convince people he's not a good person. The focus is on Naofumi's depression and how Raphtalia's loyalty and trust help save him from himself. Any statement on capitalism seems incidental to that story, not intentional idealism.
    Also, your hypothetical situation seems to be just as skewed as the ideal you claim Shield Hero is displaying. That doctor is far more likely to suggest a loan or point Armin to a charity than outright refuse to help. He won't get paid if he doesn't help at all. And that's not even including the fact that most doctors go into medicine hoping to help people, the Hippocratic Oath, and the various charitable medical services like Dr.s without borders and St Jude's children's hospital. Contrary to popular belief, people aren't told "tough luck" if they can't afford healthcare. Not by doctors and hospitals at least. Insurers can be cold bastards.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +18

      Also in the case of public healthcare he's going to be taken in at *some point* and have *something* at least done to him, albeit at the cost of the taxpayers who literally owe him nothing until they are in the same situation to be paid back by them.

    • @MrNotSpecified01
      @MrNotSpecified01 5 років тому +56

      Yeah. Before this video I hadn't even thought about capitalistic ideas being present in shield hero beyond the basic concept of a merchant. This is all very forced. It seems to me like the anime is just an excuse/cover for a video criticising capitalism. Which is OK in and of itself, but in this case it's badly done and doesn't really fit with the channel.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +1

      @@MrNotSpecified01 Judging by our shared compass results we just take it for granted that the system is capitalist from the start.

    • @claravinas9265
      @claravinas9265 5 років тому +3

      Im guessing you look at hungry sick or homeless people and justify why you think they deserve their circumstances. Nothing in your comment directly implies this, I just get the vibe.

    • @NonyaBsnes
      @NonyaBsnes 5 років тому +21

      also, shield hero isnt sayin "heroism is bad", they're saying "acting like a arrogant fuck is bad", which all 3 of the heroes are

  • @Gwenpool2369
    @Gwenpool2369 5 років тому +9

    You seem to have corporatism and capitalism mixed. Capitalism is all about helping people to help yourself, and is fueled by self interest. Every deal benefits all parties involved in the deal. Corporations, like Apple, don't do that.
    But in any case, all you have to do is decide what people make decisions on what is made and consumed in your country. The government, the people, or mix of both. Since I don't feel comfortable with someone else in control of my life, I chose the people.
    Great job on the video tho.

    • @brenito2092
      @brenito2092 5 років тому +7

      For marxists capitalism and corporatism are the same thing, they think private means of production are ineffective for the economy, so they wouldn't survive without state protection. Which is "proven" by marxist economics.

  • @AlternativeIce
    @AlternativeIce 5 років тому +88

    DO YOU HAVE THE CURRENCY?!

    • @derf213
      @derf213 5 років тому +2

      I DO NOT

  • @TheTlay101
    @TheTlay101 5 років тому +147

    !: Capitalism is kinda flawed tbh
    Also !: CHECK OUT MY SPONSOR AND PATREON YO

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +22

      It's like uncle Vladimir always used to say: there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +4

      @@Arrakiz666 Define "ethical" in this context

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +6

      @@Christian--- concordant with ethics. Pretty straight-forward, right?

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +7

      @@Arrakiz666 Is self-interest unethical?

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +10

      @@Christian--- It _can be._

  • @user-nf1vj7ul8d
    @user-nf1vj7ul8d 5 років тому +167

    Hes back. Our God-Emperor is back!!

  • @jumpsharkman3882
    @jumpsharkman3882 5 років тому +179

    Technically hospitals cannot turn you away for emergency services regardless of your ability to pay. Yes that comes with its own list of caveats and yes hospitals do attempt to squeeze profits out of those who can pay, but the lack of nuance in your analogy serves to undermine it overall. The barter analogy in general doesn't make much sense and is trying to mask its incoherency with humor.

    • @codysymes7551
      @codysymes7551 5 років тому +55

      This guy knows what's up. Not to mention the whole idea of medical debt is exactly Naofumi's "deference of payment" that the video chided as unrealistic.
      Also, not to mention that with the trickle-down to Raphtalia, notice how not only as he gets better off she does too, but as he gets better off she also gets more useful and better at her work. She doesn't have a better life simply for being his peon. She earns a better life by being more useful.

    • @JCLegendary
      @JCLegendary 5 років тому +50

      That much vaunted technicality isn't worth much, unless you're unconscious or bleeding out in the hospital waiting room. Hospitals are perfectly within their rights to take people that come looking for help and do nothing but give them some Tylenol and tell them to go home and try to tough through it. Then send them a bill for a thousand dollars for the privilege for being told to F' off.

    • @Nitsugalego
      @Nitsugalego 5 років тому +36

      local anituber has no idea how a real business works
      I'm shocked

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay 5 років тому +35

      @@JCLegendary that's how it was for me in my first accident. They took 300 before they would even look at me, gave me a placebo, took an X-ray, and sent me home with family and a torn back muscle. Oh, and it took my family doctor prescribing me an anti-inflamatory after week 2 of bedridden pain to get me walking right in 4 days. They still said I owed over $800 for the hospital visit.

    • @BygoneT
      @BygoneT 5 років тому +13

      And, there are many hospitals with a fund specifically raised to cover people without an insurance or who can't afford it fully, which people have and keep on exploiting to pay less.

  • @yourresidentginger1245
    @yourresidentginger1245 5 років тому +19

    Watched this thinking “ok this could be a good video” entire video ignores any context or characterization that doesn’t agree with his point.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 3 роки тому +5

      Pretty much, a very typical trait of an American UA-camr, and seems like the dub and Japanese original is different, in Japanese original Natsume never said slaves are not humans, he referred to slaves not being people in that they are obedient and not like people who cannot be trusted. Frankly, this is why dub fucking sucks, albeit if you do not understand Japanese the meaning can be lost the subtitles does a good job of conveying the actual meaning a lot better than the crappy dub does.

    • @turner15
      @turner15 3 роки тому +5

      @SMGJohn It doesn’t make sense to say that he purposefully ignored points AND point out that the dub changed things. By your own admission, there are details in the dub that slightly alter the main characters characterization and actions,. That’s not the UA-camr purposefully ignoring things, that’s him getting incorrect information because of someone else. If I performed a task that wasn’t up to your expectations because the instructions I received are different the instructions you originally had in mind, that wouldn’t be me ignoring what I didn’t like and nitpicking details. I just got incorrect info?

  • @gratingasshat2995
    @gratingasshat2995 5 років тому +135

    >watching someone go from second to first place isn't as interesting as watching someone rocket to first from off the leaderboard.
    Excuse me, but Afro Samurai woukd like a word.

    • @ScaryMason
      @ScaryMason 5 років тому +4

      gratingAsshat this was literally the plot to Enders Shadow&3 other books, the sequels to Ender’s Game.

    • @Roeclean
      @Roeclean 4 роки тому +1

      Thats different and. Not many people know about that show

  • @thenarrator8781
    @thenarrator8781 5 років тому +70

    I think something you can take away from this is that almost system can be made better by better people who understand its strengths and weaknesses. Likewise systems can be ruined by self-centered people and those who don't understand how those systems work.
    In the end, it always comes down to people.

    • @MetaKnight964
      @MetaKnight964 2 роки тому

      Systems that prop up the government will always fail.

  • @andrewlesniak8018
    @andrewlesniak8018 5 років тому +9

    I don't think the "conversation that shield hero wants you to believe/actually happens there" is really a fair interpretation of the situation. If Mr. Basket Weaver doesn't have money, then the baskets are effectively acting as money, and this is simply a contract of debt that Dr. Heaven Lee Fowl has offered to the patient. Hardly unusual or terribly idealistic, frankly.
    The problem arises when prospective patients don't have a medium of exchange that is of value for the person in the hypothetical. Money is better because its generally valued by people more or less equally. If I have baskets already and Mr. Basket Weaver doesn't have anything else, that isn't helpful to me. Even if I took the baskets as payment, I need to go out and find someone else who wants baskets in order to get something that I do need. That's why we don't use the barter system anymore.
    The other, more difficult problem that I was expecting to see rather than "lol capitalism is evul you guise" was the problem of debt accumulation. Sure, its not hard to defer payment for one customer when you have 99 other customers who are able to pay you, the money from which you use to pay your staff, upkeep on your building, medical supplies, etc. But there does come a point when you defer payment to too many people and you no longer have the capital to pay for what is necessary for the hospital, which does not come from nowhere. That is where you get the prioritization of those who can pay immediately, and hospitals that refuse to do that will go under and be succeeded by exploitative systems that you represented in the "what actually happens" conversation, even if that certainly seems played up.
    If we assume the second conversation is meant to illustrate actual pitfalls of the system portrayed without idealism, but a doctor with the same personality as the first, we could assume it would play out more like this:
    "Hello Doctor! I am in need of the medicine so as not to catch the death. Save plz?"
    "Do you have the currency?"
    "I do not!"
    "Do you have the insurance?"
    "I do not! I am but a simple basket weaver of little means!"
    "Well I already have the baskets which I accepted in lieu of payment last time you fell ill. I don't need more."
    "Perhaps you could defer the payment until such time as I am not to catch the death?"
    "I wish I could, simple basket weaver, but the bank is threatening foreclosure on the hospital because I needed to take loans to cover all the other deferred payments that I offered to the sick and dying in the community, because medicine costs money when I can't slap weeds with the magical shield attached to my forearm and convert them into quality ingredients for alchemical potions."
    "What?"
    "What?"
    EDIT: I'm not saying that there aren't bad hospitals staffed by bad people, but you're countering an idealized representation with a strawman.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +3

      The currency is treated as a necessary ill when it is the facilitator of all these great interactions for the personal gain all the parties involved are looking for.
      It's silly.

  • @n.l.g.6401
    @n.l.g.6401 5 років тому +131

    "Flung into an alternate reality... where trickle-down actually works."
    Oh, dis gon b gud.
    EDIT: Yep, it gud.

    • @HANIMEME
      @HANIMEME 5 років тому +38

      (technically "trickle down economics" is a term made by anti-capitalist who don't understand the market to try to make fun of what actually works, it's not an actual term, it's a strawman argument toward something relatively complicated yet effective)

    • @ellisartwist
      @ellisartwist 5 років тому +27

      @@HANIMEMESupply-side economics is derogatively referred to as trickledown specifically to mock its failings. While supply side does have its strengths in certain situations it and the philosophy around it, i.e. fuck unions, minimal regulations etc, ultimately serves to disempower individuals who are too poor and/or dependent on the system to try and fix their situations. Hence the idea that it is trickle down because the idea is that what's good for the rich is good for the poor but in many cases this is not true.

    • @DBZHGWgamer
      @DBZHGWgamer 5 років тому +10

      @@ellisartwist It all depends on what you mean by "good for the poor." Because often what appears to be good for the poor still leaves the poor impoverished. And what is good for the world is often even more harmful to the poor. Being poor in general means you are always disadvantaged and it is very hard to create a system that will appropriately assist the impoverished and also avoid abuse from people who aren't in need.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 5 років тому +24

      @@DBZHGWgamer What is "good for the world", though? Because de-regulation and the minimizing of Collective Bargaining doesn't really help the "world", so much as it helps executives and shareholders.
      Nor does this success "trickle down". We've been doing this model of pro-Capitalism since the 80s. And we've SEEN what happens. That being that wealth disparity has massively increased; the rich get geometrically richer, while wages for most American households (not individuals, _households_ ) have remained static since so times, when adjusted for inflation. The price of living has increased, meaning more Americans must stretch money thinner. An increasing number of people are also hired, not as permanent employees with benefits, but as "independent contractors" that receive no benefits and cannot form unions. All of this not even getting into the weakening of anti-trust laws, which allow businesses to consolidate industries into a small number of corporations each, crippling competition and limiting alternatives consumers and workers have.
      Do you know why "millennials are killing industries"? It's not out of choice, but from economic reality. The middle class is shrinking, because the system has been rigged in favor of big business and away from either consumers or workers. Trickle Down economics - the collection of anti-regulation and pro-Capitalist policies - has only served to enrich the already rich. Rich people who, contrary to conservative talking points, have no actual incentive to reinvest their wealth and grow their businesses. Because they don't. They just give executives and shareholders larger payouts and higher salaries, which they then sit on. Why grow a company when you're one of the companies that own most of the industry between you, and you could instead just line your pocketbook?
      Trickle-down Economics - or whatever you want to call it - is a myth. Money does not trickle down, if you just keep giving the rich more advantages. It's a self-serving philosophy peddled by corporations and rich think tanks, to justify and lionize their own greed. And it was sold to everyone as the secret to societal prosperity, when really it's just a huge con.

    • @ellisartwist
      @ellisartwist 5 років тому +6

      @@DBZHGWgamer While what you have said is true in the general sense i mean things more like worker abuse. The billions of dollars in unpaid overtime that many people work anyway because they are pressured to by their work. The long hours of crunch time thrust upon people in office jobs to meet deadlines. As noted in the video the chronic threat of medical bankruptcy resulting from either having to pay out of pocket for treatment or pay an insurance company that will try and weazel their way out of paying as much as possible. These things are not good for the poor, not good for the working class, and not good for the middle class. But they are all conditions created by Reaganomics which includes supply side.

  • @EmperorKnightlock
    @EmperorKnightlock 5 років тому +10

    I really don't understand why Spear hero says nobody plays the shield. if that's the case, HOW DO THEY TANK AGAINST BOSSES? Like they do in the waves. If Nafumi wasn't there, they would all be dead after one big blast.

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 5 років тому +2

      The game Spear Moron is familiar with, Emerald Online, was supposedly an MMO. So he might not have been literal in saying "no one" uses shield characters, but maybe just very few.

    • @dragamation3266
      @dragamation3266 5 років тому +3

      I don't watch the show, so i can't give a good perspective myself, but an idea i got is maybe dps in the world is so good you don't need to tank? because if you could instantly take out enemies before they even could hit you id imagine that would be way more appealing than tanking attacks.

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +1

      The shield has no attack power, it's all defense. So there's no way to imrpove solo. But fighting together slows the growth of the weapons.

    • @EmperorKnightlock
      @EmperorKnightlock 5 років тому +1

      @@MrDj232 That's the rule of this universe that Nafumi is in. If we're talking strictly about the Emerald Online game mechanics, having a weapon that can't be played solo means the weapon is broken and making it so no one wants to play with people with that weapon because they won't level up means it isn't a team based game except for boss fights. These two things means the shield has no place in this weapon system.
      I understand that "he can't fight on his own" is the premise of the story, but I'm just wishing that the game mechanics of both the game and this fantasy world didn't make the shield work counter intuitively to the game play loop.

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому

      @@EmperorKnightlock Maybe there are NPC adventurers? None of the games are described in detail, but they were similar enough that the other 3 all knew about weapons leveling slower together. And Motoyasu knew about the seed despite not knowing it would grow out of control. I have to assume that they're all similar enough to render the shield useless for solo play in all of them.

  • @daanstrik4293
    @daanstrik4293 5 років тому +155

    Oh duck yea more vids from this Guy.
    And its multiple parts
    And its from rising of the shield Hero.
    Fantastic news

  • @OceanOfKetchup
    @OceanOfKetchup 5 років тому +10

    It's also worth mentioning that there's a third option of the hospital scenario where you get cured but have to pay off so much debt that it leads to the person in debt suffering as a result. The requirement of payment, whether upfront or otherwise, for any service that is necessary for someone's survival inherently creates needless suffering. The problem with Naofumi's model is that it's unrealistic and that it's still a bad model which doesn't give people what they need. Plenty of insurance companies have this model just with shorter due dates or they take other forms of capital, like your house.

  • @BlueStarr86
    @BlueStarr86 5 років тому +121

    I've got a bit of a counter-argument, the tests doctors run, that generally seem like a useless waste of cash, is because a lot of diseases manifest similar symptoms and it's entirely on the table for a person to have multiple diseases with identical symptoms at the same time. To exacerbate issues, a cure for one of these diseases could very well make the other disease infinitely worse, by which I mean kill the patient in a matter of minutes, depending on the disease in question.
    Furthermore, the entire cost of it, particularly in the United States, is because R&D does not pay for itself, and of the nations on Earth, only the US actually pays enough money for the aforementioned R&D to have it see any significant advancement. Shit's gotten expensive as we've had to get ever more creative to figure out a way of destroying each disease as they grow progressively more difficult to manage. This stuff does not exist in a vacuum and it can very well become a guessing game of life and death.
    Also, hospitals are legally obligated to treat your sickness, under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act in the United States, but they will still charge you. Though this law is unfunded, so it's strength is suspect at best.

    • @dargondude2375
      @dargondude2375 5 років тому +13

      @Toy Healthcare can work there are plenty of examples of successful healthcare, its just that the government needs to understand that it needs to help the consumers not the hospitals

    • @Raziel312
      @Raziel312 5 років тому +25

      Regarding the argument that the high price of American health care pays for R&D: if you can't access the medical advances because they are priced out of your reach, then they might as well not exist as far as you are concerned.

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo 5 років тому +8

      Hospitals will treat you, and still send a bill in the mail even if you can't pay for it. A lot of hospitals have a charity fund specifically set up to actually pay for these people so they don't have to pay for it themselves. The second part about overcharging and over testing does happen all the time though.
      Also it isn't R&D. Most of the costs according to research is actually on administration to sift through all the laws they have to follow for the government. There are a crazy number of regulations they have to follow in terms of how they input data, to how they can talk to patents in just about every situation. If you can think of something that might happen in a hospital it has probably been regulated by the government.
      According to the Data a little over 60% of the cash Hospitals spend is actually on Administration just for those government regulations.

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo 5 років тому +10

      @@courtneydemaeyer8017 You can order a months worth of insulin online for $6-30 depending on the brand. The reason they charge hundreds is to nickle and dime insurance companies.

    • @Raziel312
      @Raziel312 5 років тому +4

      @@rrteppo Except if you can't pay that bill they don't just go "oh well ". The reason for the rules are that medical technology corporations WILL take advantage of any loopholes they can. Look up the difference between FDA approved and "FDA cleared" and realize you are the lab rat for an under tested medical device.
      The reason what can be said to a patient is because people are weasels. "Okay ma'am, you say that our prophylactic implant feels like a roll of sandpaper inside you? But you're not pregnant right? Okay, then I'll mark you down as Very Satisfied on our customer feedback survey. "

  • @obits3
    @obits3 5 років тому +4

    I think interpreting shield hero as a case for capitalism is a bit of a stretch. He demands payment because getting paid forces people to place value on you. Real people do tend to value work they had to pay for more than charity. Even if the payment is deferred, the mere fact that they agreed the service or good was worthy of payment forces the payer to admit the service or good has value. In truth, Shield Hero is a closer to feudalism.

  • @Trombi01
    @Trombi01 5 років тому +178

    12:54 I feel like this example fails bacause of one critical thing: Naofumi is a single individual and hospitals are not. When Naofumi is negotiating a payment for himself, he has nobody to answer to, but the doctor is working for somebody else, and thus not the one negotiating the price.
    This could be seen as something Rising of the Shield Hero tries to say: that if everyone is trying to work for themselves, then such situations as this could be possible.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +28

      A hospital has no use for baskets, what a surprise.
      Actually, the hospital just in general needs something of use in return for care, what a surprise.

    • @Trombi01
      @Trombi01 5 років тому +29

      @@Christian--- Yea but an individual who hapens to be a doctor could benefit from bunch of baskets that will be enough for rest of their life.
      Naofumi doesn't work for someone else, thus he can accept payement in various ways with difrent deadlines. Doctor can't because the Hospital is the one choosing acceptable payement and deadlines.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +10

      @@Trombi01 What prevents an individual with the sufficient materials and skills to heal the sick boy from healing him in exchange for baskets?
      The hospital is a variable, not a set modifier.

    • @Trombi01
      @Trombi01 5 років тому +22

      @@Christian--- So we agree the example is flawed, because it has different variables than shield hero?

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +24

      @@Trombi01 We were in agreement from the start, my argument is in reinforcement of it and to mock commies.

  • @soulzero22
    @soulzero22 5 років тому +5

    Well this is a pessimistic view of capitalism

    • @ZontarDow
      @ZontarDow 5 років тому +1

      Well Capitalism isn't perfect. I mean sure, it is objectively the best system of economics humanity has yet conceived, but that doesn't mean it's without flaws.

    • @jackmanleblanc2518
      @jackmanleblanc2518 5 років тому +1

      @@ZontarDow Yup. As long as there is a human element in, well, anything there will always be flaws. Peopl e will always find a way to exploit something.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому

      @@jackmanleblanc2518 A utopia is both impossible and immoral to strive for.

    • @jaydenslaptop
      @jaydenslaptop 3 роки тому

      @@Christian--- Perhaps it’s better that way.

  • @evansathroy
    @evansathroy 5 років тому +75

    My brain B I G intrigue
    Edit: My brain B I G happy
    Will wait on part 2 b u d d y point

  • @ernestotorelli1209
    @ernestotorelli1209 5 років тому +6

    I don't think Naofumi's irrealistic behaviour has to be justified as it to be escapist fantasy, I think the story shows an ideal situation to be a example, a sort of guide on how to do capitalism right, by comparing Naofumi's healthy selfishness with the kingdom's corrupt selfishness, and with the other heroes' hypocritical selflessness.

  • @BeatlesRoxx13579
    @BeatlesRoxx13579 5 років тому +35

    Mr Point you've caught me in the middle of watching Shield Hero. I will return later.

  • @TheHandlegoesHere
    @TheHandlegoesHere 5 років тому +63

    I would say that Shield hero seems to be a more conservative hero than necessarily a capitalist one. Conservative in the Metternich or Otto von Bismarck sense.

    • @BygoneT
      @BygoneT 5 років тому +5

      I've never seen a hero be so reluctant about not helping without money, and I've almost finished reading the story.

    • @johnwilliamson4748
      @johnwilliamson4748 5 років тому +18

      @@BygoneT He doesn't get support from the crown for most of the series even when he starts to receive proper support it can't account for all his expenses like when he tries to reconstruct Raphtalia's village. Buying the villagers back from slavery takes money, then you need money for building materials, money for domesticated livestock etc. The dude has to live as well and that means having the money for equipment to protect himself and his allies not to mention for daily necessity's like food, clothing and so on . Asking repayment for services rendered is perfectly reasonable.

    • @scutumfidelis1436
      @scutumfidelis1436 5 років тому

      @@BygoneT The anime was good in the beginning but turned shit and hypocritical when they made the Pope Arc.

    • @k_tess
      @k_tess 5 років тому +2

      @@scutumfidelis1436 Explain.

    • @spacedoohicky
      @spacedoohicky 5 років тому +2

      @@scutumfidelis1436 Technically it's not the "Pope Arc". It's the institutional power struggle arc.

  • @RonaldCorbin14
    @RonaldCorbin14 5 років тому +29

    Love how much effort you put into the small stuff. Like showing Seven of Nine specifically at the word “individual.”

  • @kireduhai9428
    @kireduhai9428 5 років тому +7

    Yyyyeah, I can't help but think you don't understand either capitalism or RotSH.
    You should probably see a doctor... You stretched so hard to draw a connection between the two that I think you must have pulled something.
    The themes in RotSH are largely about unintended consequences, and how intent behind actions is irrelevant to results.
    Also highlighted are the differences between a hero and a protagonist - the Three Heroes are protagonists, and have everything largely handed to them. Naofumi has to overcome a world dead-set against him, and he's a hero.
    Tacked onto that the differences between appearing kind and actually BEING kind is also a major theme.
    The fact that you drew capitalist themes from it says more about how you and how you perceive capitalism than it does about the show.
    ...Or capitalism, for that matter.
    (And do bear in mind that Ayn Rand was NOT a capitalist, she was an Objectivist - which is kind of a sad, utopianist caricature of a capitalist)

  • @ВладимирОмельченко-й7г

    Some businesses provide sub par service not because of greed/business incentives but because of government which grants them monopolies on ideas/production/distribution etc and forces customers to have these as the only options.

    • @dualindigo9672
      @dualindigo9672 5 років тому +9

      That often happens due to lobbying when rich people use their wealth to influence politicians to act against the interest of the people.
      Government action isn't innately good or bad, but you shouldn't let the already powerful decide all of what is done.

  • @burgermasia2886
    @burgermasia2886 5 років тому +11

    Hospitals ask for money after they treat you, Raphtalia choose to continue to be a slave, even after already being freed, and you didn’t mention that during the waves he protects the village without even a notion of payment.
    I see how you could have been mistaken but there is a noticeably large amount of incorrect information, and assumptions in this video, this tells me you didn’t do much research, despite the fact it has been so long in between your uploads.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +2

      It's almost like there's an ideological bent or something. Thonk intensifies.

    • @burgermasia2886
      @burgermasia2886 5 років тому +2

      Almost as if. 🤔

  • @L337N1NJ4L1NK
    @L337N1NJ4L1NK 5 років тому +29

    The primary flaw with this video is that Naofumi is altruistic at heart and not a true capitalist. The reason he defers payment and helps people for sub-par rewards isn't because he is the perfect capitalist but because he has to remain guarded but wants to help people.
    The reason the other heroes fail isn't because they are being altruistic but because they are being selfish (except for Spear-boi). The Bow Hero is playing up his fantasy of being a hero for the sake of his ego without thinking through his actions or the consequences of them while Naofumi instead weighs the benefits against the costs for his. The Sword Hero seeks power and selfishly puts his party in danger while not thinking about the effects his actions have on the wider world around him causing the plague. The Spear Hero is genuinely trying to be a hero but his naivety and foolishness allow him to be manipulated by those who aren't altruistic and cause his actions to be for their good and not the good of the people as he intends. That and his stupidity anyway.
    It's not that capitalism is the answer, but careful thought. Each of the other heroes have a value they adhere to that is also present in Naofumi but each of the other heroes lacks the one value in Naofumi that allows those values to work for the betterment of the people; consideration of others.
    But it was a good video none the less.

    • @salvador18SaViOr
      @salvador18SaViOr 5 років тому

      Completely truth.

    • @aero6104
      @aero6104 5 років тому +1

      Naofumi, in my opinion, is a good example of a rational egoist with a moral compass.

    • @SISTEMAQ
      @SISTEMAQ 5 років тому

      So the perfect capitalist?

  • @lunokhod3937
    @lunokhod3937 5 років тому +11

    I really don't think that the show is intentionally spouting capitalist propoganda but it's an interesting take on it to be fair.

    • @mwep415
      @mwep415 5 років тому +9

      Even if the show is intentionally pro-capitalist, I'd hardly call it propaganda.

    • @johnwilliamson4748
      @johnwilliamson4748 5 років тому +5

      Can you suggest a better system? You know one that doesn't fail every time it's been tried.

    • @lunokhod3937
      @lunokhod3937 5 років тому +2

      John Williamson
      Lol no need to get political mate.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +1

      @@johnwilliamson4748 Was that the point of the comment tho

  • @lloren9009
    @lloren9009 5 років тому +11

    *lives in North carolina* Uhhh....can confirm all our health care is like that...
    I tried to pay in plushies once and they told me to gtfo

    • @Gwenpool2369
      @Gwenpool2369 5 років тому +1

      Last hospital I went to just automatically tranfered my bill to a bank and turned it into a loan. Completely without my consent, but they did treat me right away.
      But hospitals charge way too much.

    • @lloren9009
      @lloren9009 5 років тому

      @@Gwenpool2369 oh jeez I mean...I guess thats good but still would have been nice if they got your consent and stuff. Glad you got treated though lol

    • @brandonbrown6922
      @brandonbrown6922 5 років тому

      @@Gwenpool2369 Yeah that... that's not capitalism. You didn't agree to the terms of that contract prior to the exchange...
      I'd say sue, but that would imply we actually had a truly capitalist healthcare system, instead of the mixed economy shit it is.

    • @Cneqq
      @Cneqq 4 роки тому

      US healthcare in general, it's the same in every state.

  • @8citani8
    @8citani8 5 років тому +14

    "Hate people? Fight people!!! The sky is the limit" 😂😂😂 I am downloading that game just for that phrase.

  • @isaacsantos6200
    @isaacsantos6200 5 років тому +44

    I disagree with your point on Naofumi calling Raphtalia not a person... His whole conversation with the slave owner was meant to keep him on his good side while getting what he wanted. Naofumi treats his companions with the care and understanding one typically gives to people.
    I also really disagree with your viewpoint on Naofumi caring only about money. He simply relies on what he views to be the only reliable thing in the world, business. He still shows morality by caring for the typical person even if they don't have money to pay.
    Honestly a I really disagree with your whole argument here

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +4

      Money is a means to an end, caring about only money is caring about only means to ends, the morality of caring only about money is dependend on the goals to achieve with the means.

    • @Blinkehyo
      @Blinkehyo 5 років тому +4

      @@Christian--- thats not a 1 to 1 though. In today's society money surely helps many means, but the ends is rarely >insert money, spit out desire<
      unless its something simple

    • @isaacsantos6200
      @isaacsantos6200 5 років тому +4

      @Christian Wrtti But he *doesn't* care only about money? Why else would he accept other forms of payment from the villagers? He does the good things he does out of his sense of moral duty to the normal citizens of the world.
      His financial/status situation pushed him to seek compensation at the start of the series, and at the current point in his journey he has cemented a belief that the heroes shouldn't do things to support the fanfare and legend status they have -- As exemplified when he shows annoyance that he's called the savior of the heavenly fowl.
      A more correct statement about Naofumi's care would be that he cares about the most efficient way to reach his goals while working to have people treat him as a human beig . What he does often seems heartless (ex: charging the plague victims, threatening the shopkeeper with the baloons, taking the brigands belongings) but he does these things as a way to increase his stock of materials/money while trying to get other people to treat him based upon the actions *he* has done, not based on him merely having the shield.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +1

      @@isaacsantos6200 I made no comment about him caring only of money but the righteousness of caring only of money in general.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому

      @@Blinkehyo If you have his view of the world you talk of something like love or can't afford to buy your goals.

  • @austinpoor5217
    @austinpoor5217 5 років тому +25

    My interpretation wasn't that the show was "extolling the virtues" of Naofumi's methods, so much as it was his need to resort to those methods, and interact with the lowborn peoples the way they must interact with one another to survive, learning the good and bad of their culture and society, and understanding the people he's saving. When he charges them, it's because he has to or else he won't be equipped to protect them from the waves, and not to forget, they will pay that money in "hero taxes" weather or not Naofumi provides service for it. All that to say I felt the greed and bargaining was always just a way to make the world "real", so that the shows theme, and focus on the idea that this world isn't a game, would come through, and contrast the other heroes, who ostensibly "born into wealth and glory" have no concept of consequences, or the worth of what they have. Naofumi knows exactly the worth of what he has, because he has to work for all of it.

  • @dylangreen192
    @dylangreen192 5 років тому +5

    Fantasy world? Main Character traveling in a cart with a half-human half-animal female companion? Capitalism? I'm surprised Spice & Wolf wasn't mentioned at all.

    • @ExplanationPointAnime
      @ExplanationPointAnime  5 років тому +4

      Good point, actually. Didn't even think about it.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому

      I'm sure a couple red-cap-bad jabs could be fitted into that aswell.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +1

      @@ExplanationPointAnime You _seriously_ didn't?

    • @ExplanationPointAnime
      @ExplanationPointAnime  5 років тому +3

      @@Arrakiz666 Not once! Although I did kind of rush to get the script/video done because I had a deadline from the sponsor. Wish I'd thought of it, though. I might come back to that idea in the future.

  • @deathpick2
    @deathpick2 5 років тому +12

    hippity hoppity you're now my property

    • @grasshopper801
      @grasshopper801 5 років тому +3

      It is impossible to legitimately make a person into property, although people have been treated as such throughout history. Each person owns themselves. While most things that we own can be traded, our selves cannot be traded, because we cannot divide our will from our selves the same way that we can part with a coin or with land.

    • @deathpick2
      @deathpick2 5 років тому +3

      @@grasshopper801 dude its a meme

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +1

      @@grasshopper801 To be fair, the avatar image should have given it away...

  • @nojatha4637
    @nojatha4637 5 років тому +8

    Thumbs up for capitalism 👍

  • @HANIMEME
    @HANIMEME 5 років тому +5

    The thing is that government regulation causes the problem with hospitals that could be fixed or made easier if medical care was privatized not to mention it would be way way cheaper because of market incentives.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +3

      I will say this yet again, who lobbied for said regulations? Was it the people who need healthcare, or was it the owners of the hospitals?

    • @HANIMEME
      @HANIMEME 5 років тому +1

      @@Arrakiz666 it was many of the beurocracies put in place by the government

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +3

      @@Arrakiz666 It was primarily the insurers, so neither of the options you gave. Although I'm pretty sure the government gets all credit for limiting medical licenses to a set number each year and refusing any path for foreign doctors to practice after immigrating.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому

      @@HANIMEME Where, in insurance companies? In the hospitals? Put there _when_ and _how?_

  • @distance7721
    @distance7721 5 років тому +6

    The difference in how capitalism is portrayed in Shield Hero and how capitalism works in real life is that Shield Hero takes place in a medieval world, as well as one that has different cultural values from ours. Let's take a look at your basket weaver example: in modern society, you would not be able to barter as the basket weaver does because all transactions these days are handled via currency. However, in a medieval society, currency was not nearly as ubiquitous or readily available as it is today, meaning that you could barter with goods rather than just cash. To give a closer analogy for how your example would play out in modern society, the basket weaver would either take out a loan or pay with credit, then work hard making and selling baskets to pay off the loan/credit bill. Yes, real life does not play out this idyllicly. Yes, capitalism can be exploited by unscrupulous individuals. That said, capitalism has come up with solutions to problems more effectively than any other system: basic subsistence is much more affordable in capitalist countries than in any other place in the world. Clean food and water are not considered luxuries, clothing is cheaply available and there are enough people with money to spare and conscientious hearts that charity is viable in its own right rather than needing to be compelled. There will always be problems in any system, but capitalism isn't the purely malignant force that most media makes it out to be

  • @METALmurdererOG
    @METALmurdererOG 5 років тому +5

    Ugh... I've watched the sub so far and dub Naogumi's voice just sounds so weird... he doesn't have that "anger" in his voice

  • @deadmeme8973
    @deadmeme8973 5 років тому +21

    I genuinely hope that you don't think that the "capitalist ideal" message was an intentional thing

    • @yourresidentginger1245
      @yourresidentginger1245 5 років тому +20

      Well he is ignoring a large amount of context and characterization in order to make any of his arguments.

    • @joshuafogg6600
      @joshuafogg6600 4 роки тому +1

      @@yourresidentginger1245 How very Socialist of him.

  • @SuperLlama42
    @SuperLlama42 5 років тому +9

    This video made me realize that Naofumi is a lot like Greed from FMA. His underlings are basically his property, but in a bizarrely positive way, because just like you'd get pissed if someone broke into your house and started smashing all your shit with a hammer, he won't tolerate other people hurting his "property," and you'd do well to treat your property well if you want it to actually function like you want it to.

  • @brentramsten249
    @brentramsten249 5 років тому +18

    13:30 in america hospitals actually cant force you to pay them what they charge you, and are required to give you emergency services whether or not 'you' or 'they' like it.
    its not free healthcare by any means, its just really ominous 'debtcare'

    • @legoboy468
      @legoboy468 5 років тому +4

      True, but that’s because of government regulation to my knowledge, not because of capitalism

    • @brentramsten249
      @brentramsten249 5 років тому

      @@legoboy468
      capitalism has never been well defined (word history is funny, some words never had a real meaning, such as patriarchy which 3 philosophers made up roughly at the same time and continued to disagree until everyone one of them died).
      the closest ive seen any real definition of capitalism (and i have seen no historical evidence that the word was ever used in this way) is that everyone one owns every currency they produce (no exceptions) which means you literally cannot have a government (as governments take money to function).
      sketchy fun facts aside, when people actually did use the word "captialism" it was more or less short hand for the free market that developed with the industrial revolution.
      social capitalism (or the closest thing ive seen to a short way to semi-accurately describe america's economic policy) is primary way the US of A sought to stop the free market place's natural tendency to bubble and then crash, (the bigger the bubble the bigger the crash).
      while USA doesnt assume direct control of their market place, it is the executive nanny in charge, and when it drops the ball, the tragedy of the commons tends to repeat itself.
      every government stratagy has pros and cons (admittedly some are mostly or entirely cons) but as far as "capitalism" USA has cons that are some of the easiest and most straight forward to handle (which is a bit of a misleading statement considering how hard it is to govern in general).
      in summary, im not really sure you can separate "capitalism" from USA government regulation in a meaningful way, and this long comment was the only way i knew how to explain that.

    • @obits3
      @obits3 5 років тому +3

      Just an old account - capitalism by definition can only exist within a governmental structure because it requires there to be capital (ownership of stuff).

    • @brenito2092
      @brenito2092 5 років тому +2

      ​@@obits3 Ownership doesn't require a state, it only requires recognition and protection, both can be done by private business and by the community. There is a lot of confusion on the definition of capitalism, if you use it as just the private ownership of the means of production, it doesn't need a state. What needs a state and is very similar to capitalism according to your definition is corporatism, which is the protection of private business by the state, and is anti free market.

    • @taliladd224
      @taliladd224 5 років тому +1

      Brent Ramsten I mean capitalism has always had a really strict definition: a system wherein the means of production (farms, factories, machinery etc) are owned by individuals alienated from their use I.e a CEO or shareholder, rather than the workers or the people at large. We see this beginning in the enclosure acts of the 1600s, where common land was taken out of the hands of the farmers, “enclosed” to divide it up, and given to the nobles who then sold it to landowners (note that this happened without the consent of the people actually using the land). Use of currency isn’t exclusive to capitalism, for example mutualism believes in free markets and free trade without the need for private ownership of production.

  • @kentsilvain7329
    @kentsilvain7329 5 років тому +26

    While I usually like your content, I feel like this video really should have had some more research into capitalist theory. For example, the relationship between Raphtalia and Naofumi is not a good representation of the capitalist ideal, at least not until he gives her the option to leave during the fight in the mines. This is because their relationship is not mutually consensual, and as such is not subject to the rules that normally govern market interactions (at least from where Raphtalia sits).
    The most important idea that this negates is the idea of mutually beneficial interactions. That is to say that, in a non-coercive interaction, both parties give something they value less to attain something they value more. This is because (without force or deceit) no reasonably intelligent person would consent to an interaction that harmed them (this is not strictly defined in monetary terms, so things like the positive feeling from giving charity factor in as well).
    Aside from that, you conflate capitalism and corporatism, by blaming the free market for effects of actions produced by government interference. For example, if IP laws didn’t exist, Shkreli’s scheme wouldn’t have worked because any potential competitors would see the price hike as an open invitation to undercut Shkreli. The same is the case for the medical system at large. Regulations restrict competition and drive prices up.
    Both of these issues, as well as several others you bring up in the video, have been addressed in clear and easy to understand ways by economists such as Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell. I would strongly recommend their work if you would like to do any further research. Ultimately, I genuinely do like your content, so I don’t want to be mean or unfair, but I feel like there were some issues in this analysis.
    TLDR: Interesting analysis of the show. Economic analysis has some issues.

    • @obits3
      @obits3 5 років тому +5

      Kent Silvain - agreed. Shield Hero is not a capitalist. He is a man doing his best to survive in a feudalist society that is run by royalty.

    • @sparkyboi7352
      @sparkyboi7352 5 років тому

      This is the exact comment I was looking for

    • @FirstnameLastname-yk2js
      @FirstnameLastname-yk2js 5 років тому +1

      Kent Silvain also he like most people conflate trickledown theory (a straw man) of supply side economic. As soon as he said trickle down I was immediately turned off

    • @PeteTheGrouch
      @PeteTheGrouch 5 років тому

      Taxation is not mutually consensual - you either pay up, or they send men with guns to take your freedom away... and yet, this is considered, for the most part, a perfectly normal & accepted part of our - predominantly capitalist - society.
      By comparison, Naofumi having a slave to do his fighting for him - a slave who would've had ZERO quality of life otherwise - seems kinda small potatoes...

    • @abridge2
      @abridge2 2 роки тому

      Most labor isn’t consensual, if it was you could refuse to work, but obviously that isn’t an option in our society. There’s also the problem of working in a cycle of poverty where your job and payment makes it impossible to move into a different job a la the vast majority of labor in places like Vietnam

  • @grrrlag
    @grrrlag 5 років тому +13

    Generally a great video, but your final point about how the ideals don't translate to the real world I find to be a strawman because you imply that a capitalists don't have more nuanced answers to the more complicated real world problems.

  • @darkfire1408
    @darkfire1408 4 роки тому +7

    "Atlas shrugged, he fell of the world and landed in a new one." Quote of the year.

  • @cephalothepod2192
    @cephalothepod2192 5 років тому +7

    ...I mean, kudos for acknowledging that Shield Hero’s reality doesn’t reflect our own, but I take issue with your defense of this series escapism.
    Not all forms of escapism are healthy. I mean, for Christ’s sake, you pointed out in the middle of this video that being a slave is presented in this show as a POSITIVE.

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +1

      There's several episodes about corrupt nobles torturing slaves for fun. Raphtalia got lucky being bought by Naofumi and she knows it. She also knows why he mistrusts people, and uses the slave crest to assure him that she'll never betray him.

    • @cephalothepod2192
      @cephalothepod2192 5 років тому +2

      “It’s okay to be a slaveowner as long as you’re kind to your slaves” is not a positive message either.

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +1

      @@cephalothepod2192 How did you get that from what I wrote?

    • @cephalothepod2192
      @cephalothepod2192 5 років тому

      Alright, what IS your point?

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 5 років тому +1

      @@cephalothepod2192 That the series very clearly villified slavery and prejudice, with Naofumi's and Raphtalia's relationship being an extreme outlier not representative of the system.

  • @ashleylightheart126
    @ashleylightheart126 5 років тому +22

    At least it isn't THE MOST AMBITIOUS RPG OF 2019!

  • @trulymrword
    @trulymrword 5 років тому +4

    Yeah, it is capitalist ideal but it can also be a visage of what capitalism is in a world where there are no laws built to abuse the power those in power have, perhaps this is also the case because I think that there isn't much focus on investing in politics (Correct me if I'm wrong)

  • @MalloonTarka
    @MalloonTarka 5 років тому +6

    Trickle down economics works in this world? I know it's fantasy, but I'm not sure I can suspend my disbelief that much.

    • @uglydougdavis7841
      @uglydougdavis7841 5 років тому +1

      to be fair trickle down economics on the scale of a single individual in a handful of villages makes a lot more sense than saying it works with multinational corporations

    • @MalloonTarka
      @MalloonTarka 5 років тому

      @@uglydougdavis7841 Eh, it still has its problems, but I'll agree it's less implausible at least.

  • @tantricoath
    @tantricoath 5 років тому +23

    LONG LIVE CAPITALIST SHIELD BRO

  • @MoonPatch
    @MoonPatch 5 років тому +9

    From what I gathered Naofumi is using the capitalist angle as more of an EXCUSE to help than anything else, he does demand compensation for saving people, but usually he does it offhand.
    To me it seems like he's a genuinely nice guy who wants to help people, but after being burned he thinks helping for nothing makes him seem gullible, so he demands compensation for everything in order to play the 'tough guy'
    Notice that not once during his travels does he try to make a good name of himself, he never accepts the 'saviour' title (in fact he outright denies it multiple times) and always makes a big show of how greedy of a bastard he is, just to make sure people hate him and don't rely on him in the future or think of him as the 'nice guy' that they can exploit.
    For example you have the execution of Bitch and Trash, who despite all they've done to him he still steps up and saves them, making a big show of it being 'for his own sake' and that death is just too good for them, when in truth he just doesn't want people to die because of him (he's threatened murder plenty of times, but as far as I recall he hasn't killed anyone, much less without being cornered into it)

  • @nathanvanderburg8579
    @nathanvanderburg8579 5 років тому +13

    See you in two or so months guys
    Btw who has read the spear hero spin off

    • @TheJoethud22
      @TheJoethud22 5 років тому

      Nathan Vanderburg link?

    • @nathanvanderburg8579
      @nathanvanderburg8579 5 років тому

      Fortune-cookie I read it on an app if you look up the shield hero manga online I’m sure you would find it

    • @caitthecat
      @caitthecat 5 років тому

      Oh fuck is it weird. I was hoping he would be redeemed to an extent, but he's so obsessed with filo that he essentially abandons other birb children to find her.

    • @shoehunter3928
      @shoehunter3928 3 роки тому

      @@caitthecat yeah Naoumi isn't the only one, nor is the hardest to be hit by trauma

  • @nanigarm
    @nanigarm 5 років тому +39

    Woot, finally someone knows about SotHF hospital in my home state of NC lol

    • @ILiekFishes
      @ILiekFishes 5 років тому +8

      I have the plague, would you help me not have the plague so i may have the not death?

    • @nanigarm
      @nanigarm 5 років тому +6

      @@ILiekFishes do you have the currency?

    • @ILiekFishes
      @ILiekFishes 5 років тому +5

      @@nanigarm I am not have currency, I am hummble basket maker.

    • @nanigarm
      @nanigarm 5 років тому +3

      @@ILiekFishes Sure why not. Pay us later. XD

    • @ILiekFishes
      @ILiekFishes 5 років тому +6

      @@nanigarm here u may hav basket weave

  • @leeroyjenkins7325
    @leeroyjenkins7325 2 роки тому +3

    I think you're right about RotSH portraying the "enlightened egoism" in a positive light but calling it pro-capitalist is a stretch (even by your definition).
    A) Naofumi isn't just someone, he is one of the Four legendary heroes. Sure, he is less conventionally powerful than the rest of them, and is less respected but that still puts him in a privilieged position both in a social context (a regular man would have been executed) and in combat (helping the party members to grow is the cornerstone of Shield Hero's playstyle). That makes him a kind of disgraced/impoverished noble rather than an everyman/commoner.
    B) His reliance on slaves and preference for purely transactional relationships are not treated as the good thing (the novels and manga are more explicit about this) but rather as a defence mechanism which manifested as a response to Myne's betrayal and general shitty treatment he received in a new world. It helped him to survive under unfavourable circumstances but ultimately has to be kept in check, least it would take over and destroy him.
    C) The rest of the heroes failed becuase they were treating the whole business as a game, and didn't took things seriously enough (it's curious that the three of them were familiarized with the fantasy world through different video games - one of them even comes from a timeline in which VRMMOs are a thing - while Naofumi was transported via a book; I don't think I need to explain the significance).

  • @amorencinteroph3428
    @amorencinteroph3428 5 років тому +3

    This is reading A LOT into things to try to make your point, are you not? You could have taken the exact same situations and read into how a 'capitalist system' forces those down on their luck to perform heinous and evil acts (like child slavery) to get by, while the rich and privileged (the other three heroes) get to coast by without ever having to break a sweat, who can afford to adventure around doing their flights of fancy because they're being paid giant lump sums by the King to perform their services - while unable to empathize or understand the plight of the people they're helping because of how far removed from them they are. And you still completely ignore situations where Naufumi has deferred payment or taken little or no reward for the services he renders, instead being rewarded upon the initiative of those he saved.
    He didn't ask for a reward before saving the village from the 2nd wave, and he accepted a CART as his reward for preventing their lordship from being taken away and punitive taxes being raised upon them - but was offered a trader's pass because of all the help he had delivered to them almost unconditionally. And he still does the job he was abducted to do, for free, while not being paid by the King to do so (asides from one time where the other two heroes had to intercede on his behalf to get his reduced payment).

  • @cameronpowell3578
    @cameronpowell3578 5 років тому +18

    The weird moralistic capitalism stuff where every social problem is the fault of bad individuals rather than systemic issues was the biggest reason I stopped reading this manga. I really hope this video is gonna condemn that rather than praise it.

    • @lexter8379
      @lexter8379 5 років тому +1

      I am slightly confused, do you mean that the problem wasn't the noble/king/princess/hero...but the religion/nobility itself? What does that have to do with capitalism? Honestly I didn't see any capitalistic ideas there, but wasn't looking.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +8

      @@lexter8379 This analysis can be equally applied to capitalist structures, as it is applied to feudal ones. In capitalism, the driving motivation of agents is supposed to be personal profit. If every person living in a capitalist system were only focused on profits within certain moral constraints, it is true that the society operating with that system would be fine. But capitalism does not care for those moral constraints, not by itself, society is left to enforce them *in spite of the system.*
      Which is an issue, when the personal profit of an immoral person becomes so large as to enforce the rules of their own morality upon the society.
      A king may be noble and the kingdom would probably be fine, but a king can be a piece of shit and there's nothing about the institution of feudal monarchy that ensures the king is not going to be a piece of shit. Same goes for a capitalism, a CEO of a corporation and the entire board of directors can be noble, but nothing ensures that they will be. Given enough time you will naturally end up with more pieces of shit than good people.
      Which is why it is simply not enough to excise bad actors every few years for the system to remain pure. Institutional constraints must be implemented to retain this purity, otherwise it will always teeter on the verge of collapse.

    • @TwentySeventhLetter
      @TwentySeventhLetter 5 років тому

      I completely agree

    • @blackanimecat2
      @blackanimecat2 5 років тому +2

      @@Arrakiz666 and with capitalism, the goal is to increase profits continuously so eventually, whatever moral constraint might have been in place go out the window once you dont have to rely on good reputation to get more people using your service/goods.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому

      Not bad individuals as that is literally impossible, but foolish decisions and twisted definitions of good and bad. And every man-made social problem absolutely does derive from such people.

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation 5 років тому +5

    Capitalism actually has a moral theory behind it. It's been grinded down in modern culture to the simple "you do you" thing people treat it as, but Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations is a sequel to his book The Theory of Moral Sentiments. I recommend reading this to really understand capitalism. It would make for a good contrast between philosophical capitalism and modern "capitalism"

  • @thesteellegionnaire4570
    @thesteellegionnaire4570 5 років тому +18

    I will go to the one place not corrupted by capitalism! SPACE!

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 5 років тому

      [Tim Curry intensifies]

    • @darkwraithraziel6362
      @darkwraithraziel6362 5 років тому +1

      *space ship crashes into space coca cola ad*

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +1

      Welp, too late. "Space Force", remember?

    • @darkwraithraziel6362
      @darkwraithraziel6362 5 років тому

      @@Arrakiz666 controversial opinion, but space state regulated market capitalism wouldn't be all that bad tbh. There's more space and resources than we can possibly manage. With it we won't have to rely so much on the planet for everything and the cost of living and consumer goods will be lower.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому

      @@darkwraithraziel6362 I'm inclined to agree, actually. I suppose it's a "controversial" opinion only in the sense that you'd _think_ it's controversial, but once you sit down to think about it, it makes sense within the socialist framework.

  • @noodleus99
    @noodleus99 5 років тому +4

    to be honest, the thing about the healthcare in the real life says more about the American healthcare system than Rising of the Shield Hero

  • @shonen_x_trash2488
    @shonen_x_trash2488 5 років тому +6

    To your opening speal: Yeah, that's pretty much what we want. That and don't be an asshole on twitter.
    edit: god job. Definitely lives up to the standard.

  • @Hayseus712
    @Hayseus712 5 років тому +20

    Great vid, I can't wait to watch part 2 next year!

  • @stevemanart
    @stevemanart 5 років тому +37

    Shield Hero also works as subtle criticism of the lack of empathy in real world capitalism.

  • @omniboo1762
    @omniboo1762 5 років тому +12

    I don't know how you managed to fit Everyant in this video

  • @jenova313
    @jenova313 5 років тому +2

    Your framing of Shield Hero as Randian actually helped me organize my thoughts on the series a lot, so thanks for that.
    Goes a long way towards explaining why I fucking hate it so much.

  • @itsme2313
    @itsme2313 5 років тому +8

    *anime based pvp game*
    No thanks, lol is already a dead zone

  • @informalfallacy9780
    @informalfallacy9780 5 років тому +4

    Objectivists are why socialism is so popular these days.

    • @ZontarDow
      @ZontarDow 5 років тому

      But there's almost no objectivists in the world today. I think socialists tricking others into believing their system can work is why it's popular today.

  • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
    @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 років тому +11

    Ah yes, Capitalism. My arch nemesis

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +4

      Revolution fucking when?!

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому

      @@Arrakiz666 Why would you lol

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +1

      @@Christian--- Why _wouldn't_ I? We're well overdue for a revolution, mate!

    • @brenito2092
      @brenito2092 5 років тому +1

      nice profile pic

    • @asphaltshingles8594
      @asphaltshingles8594 4 роки тому

      @@Arrakiz666 To overthrow what? A government which allows its people to vote for the leaders? If you don't like the current political situation, it can very easily and radically change with each election (be it presidential or congressional). The United States -- and all other countries which have republic/democratic governments -- can be changed by the people voting. Revolution is only required when change can't be made without violence (i.e. French Revolution).

  • @ZeroFighter
    @ZeroFighter 5 років тому +12

    Got one slight issue with the hospital analogy.
    Hospitals never talk to you about money until AFTER you've been discharged. Only when you're cleared to leave do they even utter the words 'money' or 'insurance'. The last time I was there, I asked who to talk to about it, and their exact words to me were, "Money's not important right now, so don't even worry about it. Just focus on resting up and getting better so you can go home. You don't want to be here any longer than you have to." Honestly, that last part is true. If you're going to get sick somewhere, it's going to be in a hospital, so the sooner you can leave, the better. Anyway, hospitals aren't allowed to turn you away just because you don't have money; not in the US anyway.

    • @NoraNoita
      @NoraNoita Рік тому +3

      Depends heavily on the country yeah, I assume Points PoV is well US based, so hospitals there are very money first or we can't help you, if you're not able to pay yourself or via insurance you have to leave now.
      It's a prominent feature in shows like Chicago Med, and sometimes in New Amsterdam, where they show a lot of the money side of things in american based Hospitals that those Romance-Adult-Housewive-bait Hospital shows aren't.

    • @ZeroFighter
      @ZeroFighter Рік тому +1

      @@NoraNoita
      I live in the US, and was speaking as someone who's been in the hospital a few times in the last decade, in the US. I learned to stop asking them about money because they kept telling me that it didn't matter over getting me well.

    • @Dell-ol6hb
      @Dell-ol6hb 10 місяців тому

      I mean of course, a hospital doesn't work if it turns away people without paying first, if they were able to do that the government would almost certainly step in and either make it illegal or if they're smart nationalize the hospitals.

  • @Tankerrex3
    @Tankerrex3 5 років тому +45

    Ok so when will there be the Communist video for EVERYONE

    • @TheTlay101
      @TheTlay101 5 років тому +36

      When it works in real life at least once

    • @bandiras2
      @bandiras2 5 років тому +3

      It is already exist. It is called: The soviet story

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +25

      @@TheTlay101 Communism worked perfectly well in real life several times in history. Notable examples include the Zappatists of Chiapas Mexico, the Kibutzists, the anarchist Catalonia, and early communes of workers in the Soviet Union.
      You'd do well to read up a little bit on the actual history of communism. It's a fascinating subject and if nothing else, it will give you a perspective on how socialists think.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +8

      Are you going to seize the means of video production?

    • @colleengrotte7070
      @colleengrotte7070 5 років тому +21

      @@Arrakiz666 I'm sorry to disagree, but i believe youre wrong here. Those countrys may have started out looking successful, but they always turned to tyranny because you have to force people to interact according to it, people no longer have the freedom to choose how they control the money they would earn. I find it quite sad that people only look at the countrys during the start up, but not after the change has finished changing the country. Capitalism isnt perfect, but its better for the people, the poor, then anyother system. If you disagree with me i would love to discuss it more with you, just message me, and i will listen to what you have to say if you are willing to listen to what i have to say. Im not saying i want to change what you think or that what i think is the only correct way to think, but i would like to hear more of your point of view and would like to explain my view more. cegrotte@gmail.com of you want to message me.

  • @uehgjur
    @uehgjur 5 років тому +6

    *chuckle in anti-capitalisme* :3

  • @ratoh1710
    @ratoh1710 5 років тому +20

    Both of those situations happen but in reality we have to plan for the worst case scenario always

  • @slayazes3925
    @slayazes3925 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like you watched the anime, wanted to make a video about 'the truth of the shield hero' and so twisted and skewed the anime into being about money. Naofumi never once actively seeked out money for the sake of money, but merely uses it as a way to maintain some form of power in interactions with others after being made completely powerless at the hands of those he had trusted, Naofumi never collects those 'you can pay me later' depts, he does not care about the money, he cares about having some form of control over his own life.

  • @2254narken2254
    @2254narken2254 5 років тому +5

    Do you have... *the currency*

  • @BaoHadir
    @BaoHadir 4 роки тому +2

    A couple things: first you mention Naofumi hand waving the payment from the running man. That's not what happened. You said it yourself. Credit. He gave the man transportation in exchange for a promise of payment. Credit is simply another form of debt, a loan that must be paid back at a future time. Naofumi was fine with having an IOU from that guy because it didn't really cost him anything to give him a lift, especially because the likelihood of him having some form of payment at his home was high.
    As for the GMO crops, it WOULD be stupid, but it's only stupid like that in the anime. In the Light Novel, he doesn't receive the fruits from the seeds he sold them as payment. Instead they pay him in coin for the extermination, then for the modified seeds by loading him down with all the fruits and vegetables from the Bioplant vines that were going to spoil now that it was dead.
    Another thing to note: unlike Naofumi, the other heroes have plenty of leeway for altruism. They're subsidized quite heavily by the kingdom. After the second wave (the first the heroes fight in), Motoyasu is rewarded with 4000 pieces of silver, Ren and Itsuki receive 3800, and Naofumi was awarded 500, which was quickly eaten up by his expenses. The other heroes ripped off weapon merchants with their Weapon Copy abilities early on (in the LN it's pointed out straight that they copied basically every weapon they could find, and while Naofumi does the same in Zeltoble, at the weapon shop in Melromarc he copies all the old guy's shields and pays him back after visiting Cal Mira). This let them use their saved funds to upgrade their and their parties' gear. They were also free to take quests from the Adventurer's Guild to receive more money and, with a much-lessened financial burden, the other heroes were free to travel to Exp-heavy spots to grind levels efficiently, whereas Naofumi most often had to prioritize either earning money or leveling up, and very rarely has the opportunity to do both at once. Essentially, the other heroes can afford to be altruistic (although they aren't really; mostly their 'altruism' is all for an ego boost e.g. Itsuki, who hides his identity to play mysterious vigilante and revealing his identity after his deeds to soak in praise) while Naofumi cannot.

  • @gabrielespana319
    @gabrielespana319 5 років тому +4

    For the glory of capitalism

  • @Yummynomnom123
    @Yummynomnom123 3 роки тому +2

    In your example with doctor, I see that as more of a government problem. Due to licenses to become a doctor being monopolized by government only serviceable through certain schools, through this fake scarcity they can charge whatever they want for people to become doctors, most doctors even though their salary is high they make not that much due to loans from school and various fees. This cost on the doctor is then brought onto the patient which is probably why costs are so high. This is just one example . Its like why psychiatrists have been giving out record number of medications, they are in more debt than ever before and are trying to pay it off along with the other fees.

  • @crowprincess656
    @crowprincess656 5 років тому +8

    Thank you. You put into words why I hated this anime so much. It was so frustrating to see such an idealized world, where the bastard capitalist was rewarded.

  • @draconisthewyvern3664
    @draconisthewyvern3664 5 років тому +2

    @ExplanationPoint why are you lying about the seed scene? The seeds he was given were seeds of the original plant before he unlocked the ability to modify things. He was also given food as a form of payment for saving the village from the rapid mutating plants. (Or at least this is how it goes in the LN an WN and the anime hasn't changed things too much. But hey maybe i need to catch up on the anime) Bartering is a thing. Bartering is a method of payment were two parties decide how much X is worth to party Y for thing Z.
    Also credit and putting things on your tab are things that happen even today.
    In fact you put things on your tab and make a promise to pay later everytime you use your credit card. However, your paying it indirectly by borrowing money and paying technically for the borrowed amount and continuation of permission to borrow.
    An as i said in my last comment trinkle down economics is a strawman and mischaracterization of supply side economics.
    I have Supply A and people want Supply A so they pay for it. This allows me to get more Supply A. In order to get more Supply A i need X. X will stay if i give him money for his/her work. This is a over simplification but an honest one.
    In fact this is how businesses are run in Europe and the us as well as elsewhere.
    Raphtalia is an investment.
    Redistribution is the inverse, you take Supply A away from X and place it in the hands of Y and Z. Y and Z than in theory use it to buy Supply B.
    Redistribution of wealth has never worked on a large scale.
    An that is because
    X has no incentive to stay. You eventually run out of X's Supply A assuming X even bothers staying.
    An the reason you run out of X's Supply A is because X's Supply A can only support so many Zs and Ys.

  • @SnowyWolborg
    @SnowyWolborg 5 років тому +9

    I look at it in a different way. From my POV, he is the guy who society told "pull yourself up by your bootstraps."
    Naofumi is a victim of systematic oppression. From day 1, he was singled out. Cultural bias exists against him from people he doesn't even know. He gets _paid less_ in the second Wave, even though he alone saved a village the other Heroes never set foot in.
    When Naofumi _does_ pull himself up, get his own party, make his own money, what happens? Society and authority figures are angered and afraid because he is succeeding where they attempted to kick him down and make him a social pariah.

    • @BygoneT
      @BygoneT 5 років тому

      You should probably discard the part about cultural bias because if you recall, before the Myne debacle, there was virtually no problem. It's the religion that creates problems but even then, it's evident that the only reason Naoufumi is ostracised, isn't that it's ingrained in society that "The shield hero is a demon!". Because otherwise the general attitude of the people would have shown (why would the people of the villages or castle act normal?!). What does happen, is after he is framed with rape Which is like über rape in their world, because their monarchy goes through the females.
      Your analysis is trying to cut the head of information off to solve the bottleneck. Again, it's the church. Nothing to do with universal systemic injustice. There is some, AFTER the framing. Did you find out why the King hates the shield hero so much? He spells it out " He's a demon!" He is so blinded by the religion it's not even funny. He's a huge moron, there's no other systemic issue here, nothing like envy or feeling threatened by his "True genuine, heroic qualities". Do I need to remind you, that people believed he had a Brainwashing shield, despite him somehow choosing to stay " Oppressed"? Everyone is a cretin. Oppression based on idiocy is weak, and you can see it clearly because Naofumi regains a sort of good life and respect.

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 5 років тому

      @@BygoneT That was still only day 1. Someone doesn't need to be immediately treated like dirt for a bias to exist against them. The public believed every rumor about Naofumi _way_ too easily because it's expected that the Shield will be evil.

    • @BygoneT
      @BygoneT 5 років тому

      @@SnowyWolborg The intensity of hatred does not care for the first appearance of evil. Even if tomorrow was the first day in your life you met Kim Jong Un, you wouldn't hate him less for being a totalitarian oppressor, just because he just got there.
      I don't know if you and I mean demon and hatred to mean the same thing. That's what this discussion makes me think.
      Is it way too easily? Let's try to consider it:
      Myne is a potential queen.
      No one knows her personally.
      Melromarc is a Hereditary Matriarchal Monarchy.
      Would you think, unless you know her, that the princess is actually lying about being assaulted? She is a beautiful woman if she shuts up. Criminals would want her.
      The average citizen doesn't choose their own religion. In Melromarc there are the Sword, Spear and Bow. The Shield is a demon.
      The people have no reason to doubt it, because in the past, Siltvelt kidnapped the King' sister and a whole lot of other things happened there.
      Who is the symbol of Siltvelt? The Shield. They idolise him. And in the history of the country, the shield is always on the part of the Demi Humans.
      This is all based on evidence and history.
      I know I would lean towards believing the princess with all this (Biased) information. With the link between the Shield and the demi humans, as someone who doesn't have all the information, I would favour the future Queen. And, knowing myself, she looks good if you don't speak to her so unless I hear her move her mouth, I wouldn't think she lied. But she is way too slimy to once would be enough to make me doubt.
      The average citizen only has the obvious information, what can they do? Believe the person who is on the side that wants to *enslave humanity* ?

  • @rasgrizrevelations4145
    @rasgrizrevelations4145 5 років тому +2

    I wouldn't say nafumi is a capitalist hero. He doesn't have very much money and no matter how much he has he never buys influence. His influence comes from what he sells. Medical potions and the fact he helps the common people that are generally left ignored. Those people have relatives who have a bit more influence. Aka the soldiers who help him are relatives or are from a village he saved. Not being bought. In fact his challenge for them to gather up 150 silver was so they could upgrade their gear. If he bought a mansion and started an enterprise then he'd be a capitalist.

  • @Jack-kx5rf
    @Jack-kx5rf 3 роки тому +6

    The slaver actually tries to talk Naofumi out of buying Raphtalia because he thinks her illness is so terminal she's going to die in a few days. Really don't understand why people don't see why Raphtalia loves him.

    • @SpecialProjectY
      @SpecialProjectY Рік тому +1

      By your logic, every doctor that saved a life has a harem already ;)

  • @jetvoidweller
    @jetvoidweller 5 років тому +2

    Like I get the point you are trying to saw but like your example at the end was far beyond hyperbolic. You can literally go into any hospital and they will save your life and you will incur a debt but that comes after keeping you alive first. So like thats a thing.

  • @ChrisLeeX
    @ChrisLeeX 5 років тому +4

    1 minute in, this was so forced-campy obnoxious I unsubscribed.

  • @Cneqq
    @Cneqq 4 роки тому +2

    I'd like to point out despite you saying this doesn't reflect "reality" the entire premise of rising from utter poverty by smart means and cunning happens more often than you think in the world and that is the reality of it. And to be fair nafumi isn't a massive business like the medical industry, he's a simple trader and when you're a sole trader you CAN actually operate like that if you want to, sure you'll probably take a loss but it is possible and that IS reality.
    So the entire point of this being out of the realm of reality in inherently false in the grand scheme of things. Are situations like this unlikely? Yes. Does that mean they don't happen at all? Of course not.

  • @noonetoldyou5100
    @noonetoldyou5100 5 років тому +6

    Part one? Is that a guarantee for more content soon-ish? Please?

    • @ExplanationPointAnime
      @ExplanationPointAnime  5 років тому +3

      I can dang well try!

    • @ratoh1710
      @ratoh1710 5 років тому

      @@ExplanationPointAnime I guess that's all we can ask of you!

    • @jiyuu0610
      @jiyuu0610 5 років тому

      No one told you? Nice pfp

  • @JoeRose8
    @JoeRose8 5 років тому +2

    This is deeply a flawed analysis but I suspect that's just to try to make the point that can be countered in part two

  • @sargecad3t
    @sargecad3t 5 років тому +11

    Ah, drifting towards the Breadtube side of things, I see. Good.

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +3

      I get the urge to go buy a fresh loaf right away and make a sandwich.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +2

      @@Christian--- A _communism_ sandwich, yes?!

    • @Christian---
      @Christian--- 5 років тому +5

      @@Arrakiz666 No, I would have had to work all day for a lunch break with my state provided sandwich whereas in capitalism after a days work I earn as much money as we agreed to prior to starting work and that affords me several sandwiches and a tub of ice cream if I so choose.

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 5 років тому +2

      @@Christian--- Which, if you're like most people, is _less_ than a sandwich!

    • @cdubsb3831
      @cdubsb3831 5 років тому +2

      @@Arrakiz666 after an hour of minimum wage labor I can afford 2 premade sandwiches or spend another hour buying the ingredients to make enough sandwiches for the rest of the week.

  • @kestanecihasanpubg
    @kestanecihasanpubg 10 місяців тому +2

    Man this anime becomes worse and worse the more you look into it