@@paulchivers9255The difference between mis n dis information is, misinformation is info put out unknowingly, that it is incorrect. Whereas disinformation is information put out knowingly, that it is incorrect. govt put out the Dis
Those imprisoned for words alone should be released immediately and their convictions overturned. Those imprisoned for acts should have their convictions reviewed - and the advice leading to guilty pleas - immediately.
So the pm saying things about the so called rioters is fair and ensured that they had a fair trail. This is pure hypocrisy. Free all of them as they didn't have a fair trial
Killing 3 kids and having a al quada manual along with ricin he is not innocent,all political prisoners involved in this should be released today or tomorrow at latest, government knew they where not spreading misinformation.
If all MP’s have agreed to being gagged , then the problem must be a much bigger and far more serious problem than we are being told , What exactly are they all scared of ?
The majority are not. Unfortunately the minority currently in power are pushing it for all they are worth and for one purpose - they want total control over every aspect of our lives.
No need to worry, undoubtedly he’s the only person that is producing these kind of things. Trust in keir, as he said “ the adults are back in the room”🤣
Its a bit ripe wanting this guy to have a fair trial yet hundreds have gone to court, been tried and sentenced at record speed and are now in prison for reacting to what now turns out to be the truth... everything that comes out of 'the establishment' is gaslighting us - we can't trust anything anymore.
Don't forget starmer covered up the grooming gangs and Jimmy Saville under his watch. No doubt he covered how Edwards as well .Utter filth of a human being g.
@susanwinchcombe8812 exactly, just been having that conversation with my son, I'm immensely angry, secrets, lies & cover ups - just breeds more contempt... Two Tier better wake up & quickly 😤
MPs are legislators - they make laws! They also know that certain questions can prejudice a trial. If a foolish MP errs, then the questioner will be reminded of that fact and the question unanswered.
Then why did the Manchester Airport thugs who broke a police woman's nose hold a press conference with their lawyer which went viral ? Those thugs are still free to wonder the streets, evidently never incarcerated.
But they work for anyone other than the native British people . We need direct democracy meaning referendums on all major issues representative politicians can be and are baught and paid for by the so called elites.
We arent really. Its always been this way. Infact it used to be a lot worse. There was a time when there were only two papers and one television station. The UK has always been a little Orwellian especially with its libel laws but its only now when ppl have info at the tips of their fingers that they are becoming aware of how we are really governed. The news has never been about informing the public for informations sake, its always been about ownership of the narrative. Things arent as bad as ppl make out and most ppl cant work out the why. On all the videos ive watched ive yet to read one comment that understands why the info was witheld. Theres a very good reason. They didnt want to announce they knew it was terrorism because they didnt want the ppl the kid may have beem working with to know what they were looking into. This isnt a normal case, the ramifications of these events have the porential to topple government, its now become a national security issue. Everythings being micromanaged now and their true motive for doing so is the publics saftey.
@@happyapple4269 He was jailed for contempt of court, not for a criminal offence. @GargantuanD Do you mean the documentary that got him into this position in the first place. If he had more than two brain cells to rub together, he would have figured out that this was never going to end well for him. Have you donated to his legal^W holiday fund yet? Suckers.
They “hope” to get this to trial by as early as January!??? Yet if you say hurty words and type something that’s deemed inappropriate you’re immediately thrown in prison!
Hoyle changed the rules because of islamist bullies to Labour MPs if you remember and now Hoyle does it again. Islamists and Muslims actually do get different rules. 2-tier politics, 2-tier justice system, 2-tier policing. I dont want a 2-tier anything I live by the rule of law yet it seems rules and laws can be changed for this section of society
@@ColinTerranceif I remember correctly without looking it up, I don’t think we even had bloody cctv. I was a teenager from ‘73 on, a great decade also.
Exactly. The whole idea of having that privilege is so that our elected representatives are not 'gagged' and are free to ask very important questions that the government don't want to be asked. Following on from the appalling treatment dished out to those who dared to protests after the Southport horror, this makes it all the more imperative that this Labour government cannot be allowed to continue.
Are people in prison today for asserting that the defendant was an Islamist? And if that is the case did the Government withhold exculpatory information whilst advocating for the harshest punishment possible?
You can ask questions about it when (it's not been forgotten, NEVER) but isn't at the forefront of peoples mind as it is right now ???? What an utter disgrace.
Nothing says democracy like banning people from speaking. We live in a democracy in name only. It's time for a British Bill of Rights set in stone rather than a 'gentleman's agreement'- such as the Right to Free Speech (US 1st Amendment). "We don't even know what our cage looks like because we have never seen it from the outside." - Gore Vidal.
Personally we should vote to remove the power away from lawyers to prevent people speaking about it , especially in cases where guilt is beyond doubt as in this case ,
Would this all have been the same if the perpetrator was some other form of extremist than an Islamist? I believe the answer is no. Indeed had he been a genuinely far right nut then it would all have been put out there shortly after the massacre.
A skinhead would've been outed straight away. Names, pictures, his grandma's address, and the rest. Look at the guy who murdered Jo Cox. It is actually questionable whether he was or wasn't a member of any so-called 'far right' groups or had such motivations. But they were calling him 'far-right' in the press within the hour.
When did these "gagging laws" get introduced? I don't recall anything like what is happening now being a factor with the Yorkshire Ripper, the mad doctor, the nutty nurse and the Soham 2 cases as notable examples. Why is everybody gagged these days? Is ethcity a factor yet again?
So those imprisoned for misinformation were RIGHT and should be released!!
And compensated
And ironically the biggest instigator of misinformation was keir himself
@@paulchivers9255The difference between mis n dis information is, misinformation is info put out unknowingly, that it is incorrect. Whereas disinformation is information put out knowingly, that it is incorrect. govt put out the Dis
You would think so wouldn't you?
Those imprisoned for words alone should be released immediately and their convictions overturned. Those imprisoned for acts should have their convictions reviewed - and the advice leading to guilty pleas - immediately.
but OK to name men 'right wing thugs' before their trial
Agree wholeheartedly on that comment, well said.
Exactly.
@@hayleylongster4698 And report their names and addresses in the press prior to trial.
" Right wing thugs will be remanded and recieve long sentences". That sure effected their trials ! They weren't allowed to appeal. Two tier
So the pm saying things about the so called rioters is fair and ensured that they had a fair trail. This is pure hypocrisy. Free all of them as they didn't have a fair trial
Labour should be prosecuted! 🇬🇧
And we have the UK's first cardboard cutout PM. What a W⚓.
Hoyles came with "the integrity of the judicial system" HA HA. Its so corrupt now and mostly used to protect the guilty.
Absolutely
It’s beyond belief that anyone supports them…inept and liars of such a degree that they massively increase the suffering of so many.
This man murdered children , starmer did a cover up. Disgraceful
just like the oosylic pyd gygs , stalin is iyd ater and ny
Why is there no photo of him as a man?
@@Thirdfish Good point.
Starmer is still covering up
Not the first time he's protected the guilty party when it comes to horrific crimes against children
If he is found guilty surely those that were imprisoned for saying it was terrorism should go free????
One of whom died in prison
Killing 3 kids and having a al quada manual along with ricin he is not innocent,all political prisoners involved in this should be released today or tomorrow at latest, government knew they where not spreading misinformation.
@@thecreativeguitarlounge Died mysteriously in prison, committing "suicide" without his two muslim cellmates noticing, Ok.
Freed NOW
You’d think but this is Labour
If all MP’s have agreed to being gagged , then the problem must be a much bigger and far more serious problem than we are being told , What exactly are they all scared of ?
Well Said Tilly 🇬🇧🙏🏻🫡❗️
Truth, it terrifies them.
The truth
Being found out for what they have done to this country.
They aren’t scared they have all been corrupted
3 little children brutally murdered and no one can debate this? The UK is nuts just nuts with wokeness!
The majority are not. Unfortunately the minority currently in power are pushing it for all they are worth and for one purpose - they want total control over every aspect of our lives.
No one ever mentions the other 5 girls and 2 adults that survived the same attack. Information is being deliberately withheld.
Starmer never demanded the media not discuss the people he demanded get long sentences. Double standards Starmer
It's not a lack of transparency, it's about dishonesty and corruption.
❤
No free speech in the UK under this PM 😢
It's not under the crap PM but under LIEBOUR rubbish.
The UK's first cardboard cutout PM. What a W⚓.
Not much more even back to the period of Tony Blairs reign.
This P.M who is not for the British people has got strings attached to him and other people are pulling them.
Both parties are anti-free- spe-ech, tw0 cheeks of the same hole.
A country being run on a mountain of lies.
They will do anything to keep foreigners here and change the will of the English, Scottish and Welsh people. British means nothing now.
which also includes death certificates
Are they gagged from asking about the prisoners jailed for telling the Truth.
Good one.
That's what they don't want they.want to justify not telling truth at the time of arrest when they must have known.
This is starmer trying to silence the public wot a dictator
No, Starmer is not a dictator ~ he's a DICK.
If biological weapons are involved, then the public need to be made aware of the dangers.
100% correct
You dont need to know anything , be a good sheep for the regime.
Yes and how he got them and from who
No need to worry, undoubtedly he’s the only person that is producing these kind of things. Trust in keir, as he said “ the adults are back in the room”🤣
@@jimee5945 no tyrd
Its a bit ripe wanting this guy to have a fair trial yet hundreds have gone to court, been tried and sentenced at record speed and are now in prison for reacting to what now turns out to be the truth... everything that comes out of 'the establishment' is gaslighting us - we can't trust anything anymore.
Covering up Terrorist attacks only makes the public more vulnerable
And more angry!
And more liable to riot, which is precisely what happened.
Don't forget starmer covered up the grooming gangs and Jimmy Saville under his watch. No doubt he covered how Edwards as well .Utter filth of a human being g.
@susanwinchcombe8812 exactly, just been having that conversation with my son, I'm immensely angry, secrets, lies & cover ups - just breeds more contempt... Two Tier better wake up & quickly 😤
We should be told if this was a terrorist attack. We need to know this for our own safety. It's just disgusting.
It WAS a terrorist attack.
No other phrase or catagorisation would fit the bill.
Stop worrying, the real threat is the climate apparently🤣
I mean it had islamic modus operandi all over it, we dont need telling it was quite obvious.
😂@@paulchivers9255
FREE OUR RIGHT POLITICAL PRISONERS
Even the ones that were causing damage?
@@FunnyTummyARTStop trying to be a smarty panse.
And 3 little girls are unable to talk about it 😡
This is sickening
This country getting more
Secretive by the Day 🤮
Communists have taken over the institutions in the UK by stealth.
So the question is: How do we arrest the Government?
It stinks , but it is Starmer , so what did we expect .
True Story
Hoyle!! Starmers puppet.
Nauseating.
I am from chorley lancashire is an utter cesspit of bias lyndsey Hoyle is a WEF puppet.
I really dislike our system, where the speaker is member of one of the parties.
Disgraceful,starmer just did not want to answer these questions,what are these people being paid for,maybe they forgot our taxes pay there wages
Bloody stinks
Is it because MPs Pockets are full of Muslim Money
Ali ?
And the fake Christian royals.
To cover their own arses.....
And they wonder why we have no trust in ANY of them
This malvoleant Government doesnt want their traitorous behaviour critized or questioned
If they can’t ask questions about this, how about they ask about the Manchester Airport thugs in the meantime.
No chance of that…
2Kier Free Gear, won’t upset his ‘core voters’.
This is scandalous, so much for Kier Starmer being transparent in government
How can the Speaker of the House prevent elected MPs from generally asking questions in the House?
WEF give him his orders.
Prejudicing ongoing prosecutions can potentially mean acquittal as lawyers argue they can't get a fair trial
MPs are legislators - they make laws! They also know that certain questions can prejudice a trial. If a foolish MP errs, then the questioner will be reminded of that fact and the question unanswered.
Then why did the Manchester Airport thugs who broke a police woman's nose hold a press conference with their lawyer which went viral ? Those thugs are still free to wonder the streets, evidently never incarcerated.
January trial 😮 for such an horific case . Name callers and truthers are imprisoned within days.
Utterly disgusting
its quite unbelievable when you think about it and when things dont make sense like this it points to corruption
MPs do not deserve to be gagged about the Southport attacker.
Of course they have. Get TR out of Belmarsh now!
Starmer has been let off the hook yet again.
They are all bent as a nine bob note
The people knew already we are not stupid.
Errr why? Our MPs are our elected representatives and should be able to discuss anything considered important by the public who vote for them
But they work for anyone other than the native British people .
We need direct democracy meaning referendums on all major issues representative politicians can be and are baught and paid for by the so called elites.
We are living in a dystopian nightmare!
We arent really. Its always been this way. Infact it used to be a lot worse. There was a time when there were only two papers and one television station. The UK has always been a little Orwellian especially with its libel laws but its only now when ppl have info at the tips of their fingers that they are becoming aware of how we are really governed. The news has never been about informing the public for informations sake, its always been about ownership of the narrative. Things arent as bad as ppl make out and most ppl cant work out the why. On all the videos ive watched ive yet to read one comment that understands why the info was witheld. Theres a very good reason. They didnt want to announce they knew it was terrorism because they didnt want the ppl the kid may have beem working with to know what they were looking into. This isnt a normal case, the ramifications of these events have the porential to topple government, its now become a national security issue. Everythings being micromanaged now and their true motive for doing so is the publics saftey.
We mustn't let this go, Starmer has to be held to account!
Your right alex,being told when they knew doesn't affect the case at all,this is disgusting
FREE TOMMY ROBINSON
I don't want a free Tommy Robinson.
In case you didn't notice, he pleaded guilty. Why should he be let out of jail?
@@sarkybugger5009someone hasn’t watched the documentary
@sarkybugger5009 hes no criminal and he isnt a danger to anyone.
@@happyapple4269 He was jailed for contempt of court, not for a criminal offence.
@GargantuanD Do you mean the documentary that got him into this position in the first place. If he had more than two brain cells to rub together, he would have figured out that this was never going to end well for him. Have you donated to his legal^W holiday fund yet?
Suckers.
@@sarkybugger5009because he only told the truth that’s why 👍
They “hope” to get this to trial by as early as January!??? Yet if you say hurty words and type something that’s deemed inappropriate you’re immediately thrown in prison!
Criminals
It should be mandatory for the MSM to tell us of ALL serious crime and the demographics of those committing them. For OUR safety.
And there goes any chance of a fair trial.
Like the far right receives everytime they go to trial ..
Manchester Airport. What's happening to that incident??
Their skin is brown, therefore they were innocent victims of police brutality.
Don't believe your own eyes and CCTV footage. They lie to you.
Nothing at the mo, CPS sitting on it, no-one knows why.
The people of the UK are fed up with this complete BS.
There not though are they , house prices and football matches seem to matter more
This is why America needs Trump.
More of the same
With Harris
Soon as the speaker spoke I knew what he was doing 🙄
Which was?
@@awraith4569protect Starmer and cabinet from asking questions and establishing if they’re capable of being truthful
Silencing mps didn’t u hear him first thing out his mouth, what right as he to tell people what they can say
Not the first time Hoyle has intervened on behalf of TTK ... he might have got away with it the first time but I think his bias is starting to show.
Hoyle…
Running scared of the Muslim influence in Parliament!
No wonder, Public Opinion and trust, regarding Parliament and MP’s is on the floor!!!!!
Hoyle changed the rules because of islamist bullies to Labour MPs if you remember and now Hoyle does it again. Islamists and Muslims actually do get different rules. 2-tier politics, 2-tier justice system, 2-tier policing. I dont want a 2-tier anything I live by the rule of law yet it seems rules and laws can be changed for this section of society
They don't want to "prejudice" the trial? But they had zero problems prejudicing the trials of people who simply commented on this situation online?
There was no trial.They were pressured into pleading guilty.
Love you Alex. You are a true 'peoples' champion.
Ask Starmer why he jailed ppl for telling the truth & why isnt he letting them out
i wonder if isabel has given richard a good slap for dismissing the unite the kingdom rally thereby alienating many reform voters.
MPs should then ask the Speaker of the House if the Prime Minister asked him to gag MPs.
It’s like being in 1984
1984 was nothing like this , I had a great time
And the rest.
@@ColinTerrance George Orwell, the book 1984.
@keithhall9609 yes I know that , 😏
@@ColinTerranceif I remember correctly without looking it up, I don’t think we even had bloody cctv. I was a teenager from ‘73 on, a great decade also.
Based Tice (carefully) asking a question anyway which clearly rattled Starmer.
OMG are we still living with democracy
They've opened Pandora's box and looking for Scapegoats.
Get starmer out information of dangerous people should be made piblic
Disgusting we have a right to know. Kids were killed. How many in the future.
Under Liebour we and our children don't count.
They simply do not care.
Complete and utter farce
Speaker of the HoC is complicit with this cover up. They are shot scared of it all kicking off again.
Plenty of people on starmers protection payroll
The whole thing stinks!
Some actual debatable journalism. Keep it going.
It's going to be like living in Russia....
worse, not do not believe the lies about Russia.
At least Putin is pro Russia, Starmer and his acolytes are anti British.
In 1918 Russia, modern Russia fought free from Communism which is why the far leftists hate Russia.
I believe its worse, Shirley.
Around 400 imprisoned in Russia for 'misinformation'.
Over 3000 in the UK.
@@IgorM1170sadly you win the argument.
No but they will bang on about the invisable far right.
Orders of Kim Jong Starmer must be obeyed…!
Keir STALIN!!!!
And the coverup continues, it seems we are dispensable.
Thumb up for talking about it 👍🏻 Total disgust 🤢 on these politicians!! 😡
shame those sent to jail for tweets did not get same standard
So much for "Parliamentary Privilege". The whole system is rotten to the core.
Exactly. The whole idea of having that privilege is so that our elected representatives are not 'gagged' and are free to ask very important questions that the government don't want to be asked.
Following on from the appalling treatment dished out to those who dared to protests after the Southport horror, this makes it all the more imperative that this Labour government cannot be allowed to continue.
Well done team for bringing up the continued bias in these horrific cases . Still 2 tier , this man has no shame !
MP'S not allowed to ask question's, especially Reform. I don't want to be associated with "THAT LOT".
Gagging orders everywhere - Censored.
Bet the perpetrator was already known to the MI5.
Absolutely Disgraceful Behaviour
2 men in a maximum security prison, Belmarsh.
One Murdered 3 children and injured many others.
The other made a film.
But it is okay to send film crews along with the police to arrest people on their doorsteps, name them & prejudice their trials though... ??
Parliamentary privilege out the window when Starmers is concerned..
Who advised the Speaker? When does the right of a fair trial become the judiciary interfering with the rights of the legislative?
Dare to Disobey.
Are people in prison today for asserting that the defendant was an Islamist? And if that is the case did the Government withhold exculpatory information whilst advocating for the harshest punishment possible?
Excuses excuses, just want us to forget.
You can ask questions about it when (it's not been forgotten, NEVER) but isn't at the forefront of peoples mind as it is right now ???? What an utter disgrace.
Well said Benedict, you hit the nail right on the head, with your answer.
it certainly is frustrating for ordinary individuals who were convicted for talking to truth on Social Media!
Is it cos they knew all along
The stabbings apparently, not terror related. Bet those poor little souls were absolutely terrified. Flipping Starmer😡
How can people talking change the evidence?
Nothing says democracy like banning people from speaking. We live in a democracy in name only.
It's time for a British Bill of Rights set in stone rather than a 'gentleman's agreement'- such as the Right to Free Speech (US 1st Amendment).
"We don't even know what our cage looks like because we have never seen it from the outside." - Gore Vidal.
A political union masquerading as a nationality, has no law or language of its own. Like the ussr
Personally we should vote to remove the power away from lawyers to prevent people speaking about it , especially in cases where guilt is beyond doubt as in this case ,
Would this all have been the same if the perpetrator was some other form of extremist than an Islamist? I believe the answer is no. Indeed had he been a genuinely far right nut then it would all have been put out there shortly after the massacre.
A skinhead would've been outed straight away. Names, pictures, his grandma's address, and the rest.
Look at the guy who murdered Jo Cox. It is actually questionable whether he was or wasn't a member of any so-called 'far right' groups or had such motivations. But they were calling him 'far-right' in the press within the hour.
A fair trial wasn't considered when he called the rioters far right rioters
Obviously a sign of guilt on the governments behalf
IF I CANT SPEAK FREELY, THEN I WON'T SPEAK AT ALL.
When did these "gagging laws" get introduced? I don't recall anything like what is happening now being a factor with the Yorkshire Ripper, the mad doctor, the nutty nurse and the Soham 2 cases as notable examples. Why is everybody gagged these days? Is ethcity a factor yet again?
When does Kier starmer ever answer a question????.....he is a expect at giving a reply that never gives a straight reply to the question
You know this doesn't look like a free and democratic nation.