Regardles our borders are wide open to anyone and everyone. Where is Yvette Cooper? Where is this government? Carry on regardless, allowing eneducated unqualified doctors and engineers to flock here every single day. No documents, no vetting, just complete and utter incompetence.
In a report by the Office of Budget Responsibility it said that out of 3,600,000 visas given to immigrants, only 0.8% were for doctors and 0.6% were given to scientists. Far from the NHS being propped up by immigration, they only account for 3% of the workforce. The OBR are an Independent body that examines and analyses the sustainability of the nation’s finances.
Questions to the government and police regarding their actions, has no bearing at all on the trial itself. They are making themselves unanswerable to the people.
Of course not …a trial is not even required..there are witnesses to what he did and there is no way he wasn’t guilty of mass murder, whether or not the despicable establishment lawyers etc manage to explain away the terrorism bit. He needs a life sentence without the possibility of getting out and the deceit by Starmer and the establishment means there are a few others who should be joining him
@@theinngu5560 exactly, it makes no difference. Also this idea that the case could collapse is utter bollox. ... Juries can make their own mind up, the more information they have the better.
They are desperate to sell them off to US farming conglomerates. The same will happen across Europe & Ukraine as the economy collapses under the weight of paying for the war in Ukraine, insane green policies & the burden of cripplingly expensive energy (due to the US pushing us into buying their LNG making our industrial energy inputs 4x more expensive than competitors).
I was stunned at the direction given to MPs at PMs QT. I watched it live and was of the opinion this man has no business chairing parliament anymore. There are questions which need to be answered considering the political prisoners they are now holding with regards to the establishment shutting down our right to protest about legitimate concerns. This is another legitimate concern.
hoyle is there to make politicians behave within the house of commons, he is not there to restrain MPs on what they want to debate or say under parliamentry privilege, he has acted beyond his powers and should be immediately sacked, he is gagging parliament to protect the government.
Yes you have to wonder what they are covering up…either way, the level of deceit is off the wall and if Boris can go for cakes, they should definitely go for this.
Upsetting a certain community. Standard protocol after a terrorist attack. Downplay it, pretend the far right are to blame, bring up Islamophobia, show concerned Muslims. They fear civil war breaking out. It was known at the time that anti terrorist police had visited the scumbags residence. The political class are entirely to blame for allowing his parents to settle here in the first place not to mention importing countless criminals & terrorists. 40000 on the watchlist without the resources to be watched.
@@theinngu5560,hello, its gone quiet on the thing??? that cant be talked about because it would bring starmer down. Someone knowes and should leak it. Come on sun newspaper do the right thing,you know you want to.
From the government ,to the speaker of the House, to the governor of Belmarsh prison , we have people in our institutions who are making up the rules to suit their own political agenda , we have an out of control dictatorship running this country and the people , as always , will suffer . If Peter thinks a fair trial is paramount, does he think a PM proclaiming all tweeters as criminals , before they went to court , jgave them a fair hearing ?
I think he is out of order for telling them not to ask questions regarding Southport. Obviously they are not going to ask questions that would jeopardise the trial. All the public want to know is WHEN DID THEY KNOW AND WHEN IS HE GOING TO RELEASE THE POLITICAL PRISONERS
I still can’t see how you can jeopardise a trial like this…he committed his crime in full daylight with witnesses…no trial needed, where nefarious people could make excuses for him. He should be locked up for life and the key thrown away from the minute he was arrested.
The Liebour Party should buy Hoyle a superhero costume. He has yet again come to Starmers rescue, his bias is exposed, and he needs to step down. Why was not the aftermath of Southport protected by sub-judice. Both Starmer, Cooper, and the Home Office commented on sentencing and alledged activities that were yet to come to court. Stinks to high heaven.
I thought Linsay as speaker is supposed stay neutral in matters of the sitting Government party and the opposition party, he seems to be supporting Labour from answering questions, thats not being neutral, thats helping one side, the people come first and they work for us.
We, the great British public, are always told ‘now is not the time to talk about it’…we all know that is merely an excuse to stop us talking about it at all and to kick it into the long grass by which point people will forget
Why do these people get to do this? Why do we let them? After all, they are just a bunch of " temps." Most of whom are woefully under qualified for their jobs, and the rest are just inept. We are and MUST remain a FREE people.
@@ShyTalks-d8b how can you prejudice the facts…he committed murder in front of many witnesses…..prejudicing a live case is what they are trying to do and lying big time with vindictiveness in the process.
@@theinngu5560 Some people are so thick they don't know the difference between an allegation and a conviction. Ever heard of 'innocent until proven guilty'?
The question is not about the forthcoming trial (if there is one, as the mental health card is yet to be waved)but exactly what and when did Starmer and Cooper know about the incident in the first 12-24 hours.
Who would have thought that the speaker would stop freedom of speech? Is SIR lindsey still under investigation for the disagreement with SIR kier ? 2 tier agenda ,SIR, TITLES, the party inside the parties?
Why weren’t MPs worried that the Jamie Bulger trial would collapse when publicly speculating in and out of Parliament that ‘video nasties’ and Childs Play 2 inspired or caused them to do it? It wasn’t even clear what role each one had in the murder and MPs weren’t worried the case would collapse.
Why are we not seeing a recent photo of the accused? He is now 18yo so presumably, the age restriction no longer applies. Or, does it? Similarly, the family connections to the ruling party in Rwanda. This suggests something strange with the refugee process if their family is so well connected at the top level in Rwanda. A country that has been so much in the news in the UK in very recent times, yet no mention of this connection. Hmm.
Im a great admirer of Hitchens but here I do believe with this labour gov it does set a dangerous precedent in motion for so much more that the gov will bring in. If it is not challenged by mp’s it will become normal… just as normal as machetes in the street
This idea that the case could collapse is utter bollox. ... Juries can make their own mind up, the more information they have the better. Why should they be kept in the dark about anything ? Say there is a he said she said case.... He says she wanted it, she says she didn't... I would find him innocent because how can it be proved.... BUT If she is not the first woman to make the accusation then that's different. If the jury doesn't know the history they cannot make an informed decision.
Well that can be expected from Mr Speaker of the house he is a labour MP after all that’s his impartiality gone to the wall bound to stick up for his own party Order Order
Labour want to squeeze small farms out where else our they going to find land to build all these so called new homes & what we cant grow etc there'll import at a over inflated price & pass the cost over to the consumers.its a despicable act by a clueless government,who dont do their groundwork but just put both feet in & sod the consequences. to others.madness.
May i suggest that inheritance tax on farms is so they can be bought by investment companies to ensure land is out of the hands of ordinary people... X or maybe I'm just being cynical..
The reason that questions are not being allowed in the house is to avoid embarrassing Starmer, Cooper and the government. Any indication that the government new within minutes or even hours of the terrorist connection and Starmer's actions in the immediate aftermath, would call into question many of the arrests and convictions for 'hurty words' on social media.
The issue is whether members freedom of expression should be impinged. While nothing should be said that could compromise a fair trial, this is a case where the government should be held to account as they appear to have actively peddled disinformation. The right to know and members ability to ask questions free of constraints, trumps the rights of the individual before the courts IMHO.
Soon as they get AI up and running the better. incompetent governments. Scared of a gobby mp. Saying stuff. public finding out that government had known about this low life. And instigated the riots
Absolutely disgraceful that Starmer via Hoyle has put a curfew on Southport but when its Starmer's definition of "Right Wing Thugs" its way to go with full on guilty before court and told its "custodial sentences" for shouting at a police dog! re-tweeting!!!! Starmer then gets up and says politicians, himself included, must not predicate the individual from having a fair trial! Further example of 2 Tier Kier if more examples required!!!!!!!
I have a question. If Lindsey Hoyle can stop parliamentary discussion on the Southport case why was it acceptable to do so with the alleged far right protesters ?
Re: farms and inheritance. Bill Gates is the largest farmland owner in the USA. The other week he was filmed in No 10 with Reeves and Starmer. Is Gates planning on increasing his farmland portfolio into the UK?
@@ShyTalks-d8b and if the judge was stupid enough to do that we would have total uproar. Fair trial! What about the kids who died? It’s total madness all this is just playing stupid games. Guilty full stop. Cover up is obvious.
@@ShyTalks-d8b Starmer could be asked what he, the Home Secretary and the Merseyside Constabulary knew AND when they knew it. THAT for a start! Other questions too about their conduct in the aftermath, Starmer's interference in sentencing guidelines, the advice offered to those detained by duty solicitors, a statement on the death of Peter Lynch. Loads of pertinent questions could be asked. Instead, The Speaker showed his political bias in favour of this government (he had form when they were in opposition).
Effectively Starmer used the Speaker of the house to prevent him being asked embarrassing questions about what he knew and when whilst spreading discontent across the nation with his devisive rhetoric.
Again LInsay Hoyle protecting the Labour Party…he needs to go 🇬🇧
🎯 THAT is simply all that it is about.
I’m surprised at Peter, how is asking the PM if he knew about the evidence before protesters were arrested going to jeopardise the case?
Desperately trying to keep the lid on a boiling kettle by any means
The Government wouldn't be banning anything if this was Caucasian Brits involved.
Go home, Racist Troll.
@@ShyTalks-d8b Have you been over medicating again ?
They wouldn't, Starmer would be demanding they face maximum sentences.
@@cyberleaderandy1spot on
Linsay Hoyle is in Starmers pocket.
Starmer in lord Ali's pocket 🤔
Regardles our borders are wide open to anyone and everyone. Where is Yvette Cooper? Where is this government? Carry on regardless, allowing eneducated unqualified doctors and engineers to flock here every single day. No documents, no vetting, just complete and utter incompetence.
In a report by the Office of Budget Responsibility it said that out of 3,600,000 visas given to immigrants, only 0.8% were for doctors and 0.6% were given to scientists. Far from the NHS being propped up by immigration, they only account for 3% of the workforce. The OBR are an Independent body that examines and analyses the sustainability of the nation’s finances.
And no health checks, hence the increase in HIV, drug resistant TB and Polio, etc.
Not the first time he's bent the knee to labour
He looks like he bends over for other things too
Animal Farm 2024
Lost farms from 2024 too.
We're definitely on the slippery slope there.
Questions to the government and police regarding their actions, has no bearing at all on the trial itself. They are making themselves unanswerable to the people.
Of course not …a trial is not even required..there are witnesses to what he did and there is no way he wasn’t guilty of mass murder, whether or not the despicable establishment lawyers etc manage to explain away the terrorism bit. He needs a life sentence without the possibility of getting out and the deceit by Starmer and the establishment means there are a few others who should be joining him
24/7 media stories about Sarah Everards murderer didn't seem to be a problem. It's like they think we're all as stupid as Labour voters
@@theinngu5560 exactly, it makes no difference.
Also this idea that the case could collapse is utter bollox. ... Juries can make their own mind up, the more information they have the better.
Labour want farms to belong to corporations, they have their own agenda
I read somewhere that this is exactly what's happening in NZ already, so the smaller farms are being priced out of farming!🤦♀️
🎯 Communism: control of the means of food and power production. Centralised, "command" economy.
They are desperate to sell them off to US farming conglomerates. The same will happen across Europe & Ukraine as the economy collapses under the weight of paying for the war in Ukraine, insane green policies & the burden of cripplingly expensive energy (due to the US pushing us into buying their LNG making our industrial energy inputs 4x more expensive than competitors).
Exactly, Bill Gates has spent billions buying all the farms in the usa
You will own nothing and be happy
Nothing says democracy like banning people from speaking.
It isn't a democracy. A 2 party system can never be democratic and when we get Labour in power it becomes a dictatorship.
We are knee-deep in horror. The atrocity unleashed by Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper has thrown unimaginable sadness across England. WHO will save us?
Across the UK.
Don't ask WHO to save us, they're the one's that tried to coerce everyone into having the jab.
Remember their kids are safe its our kids always at risk 😢
They act as if they were voted in by the whole country.
Yet, only 20% of the votes went to this ill educated bunch
instead of 20% of the eligible voter base
@@coling3957Even less voted for the Tories yet 4 out of 5 seats in Parliament are held by the votes of only 34% of the electorate.
Hoyle is protecting starmer as he knows something and frightened of being questioned, free Tommy Robinson as he's inocent and a political prisoner
I was stunned at the direction given to MPs at PMs QT. I watched it live and was of the opinion this man has no business chairing parliament anymore. There are questions which need to be answered considering the political prisoners they are now holding with regards to the establishment shutting down our right to protest about legitimate concerns. This is another legitimate concern.
Justice in this country has GONE !
hoyle is there to make politicians behave within the house of commons, he is not there to restrain MPs on what they want to debate or say under parliamentry privilege, he has acted beyond his powers and should be immediately sacked, he is gagging parliament to protect the government.
What is it about this Southport trial that is so precarious and fragile?
Yes you have to wonder what they are covering up…either way, the level of deceit is off the wall and if Boris can go for cakes, they should definitely go for this.
Starmer knows something or labours protecting criminals
Hello, something goes a lot deeper than southport????we need to know.
The Elephant in the room.
Upsetting a certain community. Standard protocol after a terrorist attack. Downplay it, pretend the far right are to blame, bring up Islamophobia, show concerned Muslims. They fear civil war breaking out. It was known at the time that anti terrorist police had visited the scumbags residence. The political class are entirely to blame for allowing his parents to settle here in the first place not to mention importing countless criminals & terrorists. 40000 on the watchlist without the resources to be watched.
In his career starmer has completely subverted the cps the police to suit his agenda
And I hope some decent journalists dig deep enough to find a cause for Starmer to resign and preferably be charged.
@@theinngu5560,hello, its gone quiet on the thing??? that cant be talked about because it would bring starmer down. Someone knowes and should leak it. Come on sun newspaper do the right thing,you know you want to.
From the government ,to the speaker of the House, to the governor of Belmarsh prison , we have people in our institutions who are making up the rules to suit their own political agenda , we have an out of control dictatorship running this country and the people , as always , will suffer . If Peter thinks a fair trial is paramount, does he think a PM proclaiming all tweeters as criminals , before they went to court , jgave them a fair hearing ?
💯
Covering up for Starmer again.
I think he is out of order for telling them not to ask questions regarding Southport. Obviously they are not going to ask questions that would jeopardise the trial. All the public want to know is WHEN DID THEY KNOW AND WHEN IS HE GOING TO RELEASE THE POLITICAL PRISONERS
I still can’t see how you can jeopardise a trial like this…he committed his crime in full daylight with witnesses…no trial needed, where nefarious people could make excuses for him. He should be locked up for life and the key thrown away from the minute he was arrested.
The Liebour Party should buy Hoyle a superhero costume. He has yet again come to Starmers rescue, his bias is exposed, and he needs to step down. Why was not the aftermath of Southport protected by sub-judice. Both Starmer, Cooper, and the Home Office commented on sentencing and alledged activities that were yet to come to court. Stinks to high heaven.
I thought Linsay as speaker is supposed stay neutral in matters of the sitting Government party and the opposition party, he seems to be supporting Labour from answering questions, thats not being neutral, thats helping one side, the people come first and they work for us.
The people of Southport should have been told the truth.
WHAT A LOAD OF CAHOONERS,THIS HAS COMEDIRECTLY FROM THE PM
We, the great British public, are always told ‘now is not the time to talk about it’…we all know that is merely an excuse to stop us talking about it at all and to kick it into the long grass by which point people will forget
If an MP refuses to be silenced where does that leave Lindsey Hoyle? Moreso if a number of them refuse
Why do these people get to do this? Why do we let them? After all, they are just a bunch of " temps." Most of whom are woefully under qualified for their jobs, and the rest are just inept. We are and MUST remain a FREE people.
💯
Time to turn our backs.
Hitchens is a windbag. Hoyle is protecting Stamer.
Did certain people, use the horrendous murder of 3 little girls to achieve political aims? That is the question, are we allowed to ask that?
Hoyle is suppose to be impartial but it looks like the rules are made up as they go along
I’m sure it’s pure coincidence that an ex Labour MP appears to protect the current Labour PM from scrutiny 🤔
Peter is a classic example of someone I can agree and disagree very strongly within 10 minutes.
Comrade Hoyle!
He's looking a bit smarter these days, has Ali used his card for him also.?
Unless directly involved in the case; how is asking when the PM was aware of something going to have any influence on a case?
I dread the future both near and far of this country.
What happened to Parliamentary Privilege…..
It's called prejudicing a live criminal case.
@@ShyTalks-d8b how can you prejudice the facts…he committed murder in front of many witnesses…..prejudicing a live case is what they are trying to do and lying big time with vindictiveness in the process.
@@theinngu5560
Some people are so thick they don't know the difference between an allegation and a conviction. Ever heard of 'innocent until proven guilty'?
They are looking for an excuse to get that kid off the hook.
Mark my words.
It came in days for the rioters to go to court
The question is not about the forthcoming trial (if there is one, as the mental health card is yet to be waved)but exactly what and when did Starmer and Cooper know about the incident in the first 12-24 hours.
They knew and the level of deceit, cover up and vindictiveness is off the wall. Both should be jailed.
Over 19 million people didn't bother to vote and handed Starmer power without a fight.
How is the non compliance working out?
Goodness, Hitchen's can drone on. He is most impressed by himself
Lies, Lies and more Lies.
Smoke and Mirrors!!
Who would have thought that the speaker would stop freedom of speech? Is SIR lindsey still under investigation for the disagreement with SIR kier ? 2 tier agenda ,SIR, TITLES, the party inside the parties?
Why weren’t MPs worried that the Jamie Bulger trial would collapse when publicly speculating in and out of Parliament that ‘video nasties’ and Childs Play 2 inspired or caused them to do it? It wasn’t even clear what role each one had in the murder and MPs weren’t worried the case would collapse.
You have to ask Whois pulling his strings……..very worrying
We know …. Begins with W
And here's me thinking Linsay Holye was a decent human being. He is protecting no one, as the truth is out there.
what happened to impunity in the house?
Gone, along with real democracy
Both Starmer and Reeves look like Bug Eaters.. They have no need for Farms or Farmers
Real food ( people food ) is too Good for their Kind
Why are we not seeing a recent photo of the accused? He is now 18yo so presumably, the age restriction no longer applies. Or, does it?
Similarly, the family connections to the ruling party in Rwanda. This suggests something strange with the refugee process if their family is so well connected at the top level in Rwanda. A country that has been so much in the news in the UK in very recent times, yet no mention of this connection. Hmm.
So Hoyle is now complicit in this cover up like the good labour supporter that he is.
Farmers and everyone else should boycott London
Im a great admirer of Hitchens but here I do believe with this labour gov it does set a dangerous precedent in motion for so much more that the gov will bring in. If it is not challenged by mp’s it will become normal… just as normal as machetes in the street
Milliband always reminds me of one of the old hens from the Chicken Run film😂😂😂
starman had a lot to say before the sentencing of the political prisoners ? what's the difference ?
Starmer Putin Navalny, we know where its all going with this PM
Who is controlling Starmer I want to know
Well yesterday's govt website asserted over 1500 arrived safely in 7 days. Are we paying to die by their hands? The public has a right g
To j knue
This idea that the case could collapse is utter bollox. ... Juries can make their own mind up, the more information they have the better.
Why should they be kept in the dark about anything ?
Say there is a he said she said case.... He says she wanted it, she says she didn't... I would find him innocent because how can it be proved.... BUT
If she is not the first woman to make the accusation then that's different. If the jury doesn't know the history they cannot make an informed decision.
The long march of the 'Elective Dictatorship'. - a phrased coined by Lord Hailsham in 1976.
Well that can be expected from Mr Speaker of the house he is a labour MP after all that’s his impartiality gone to the wall bound to stick up for his own party Order Order
Why would the trial go wrong with words ?...The evidence is there ...stop dragging out the lies!!
Labour want to squeeze small farms out where else our they going to find land to build all these so called new homes & what we cant grow etc there'll import at a over inflated price & pass the cost over to the consumers.its a despicable act by a clueless government,who dont do their groundwork but just put both feet in & sod the consequences. to others.madness.
Who voted these hope your proud .. you were warmed as bad as tories and still done it
I used to have a lot of respect for Lindsay Hoyle, note the past tense.
No mention of the budgetting for immigration yesterday - strange that, isn't it?
Hes just has bad has starmer and labour !
The problem is that two tier kier and the rest of the liebour government never answer the questions
Its for the benefit of the WEF starmers master
That’s labour for you although I loath labour it’s got to be said Tory’s didn’t do anything either..
I used respect Peter Hitchens ... not after this coward interview
Burcow, Hoyle, does anyone spot a similarity?
Peter Hitchens is, without a shadow of a doubt, the main character!
Linsley Hoyle doesn't seem to have any wisdom or knowledge of his own. How do these people get these positions.
Those our MPs are elected by us and not to be gaged by the speaker or the whips.
New Labour Tax . We will Tax the Truth .
Peter is not as smart as his brother Chris.
Innocent how can someone cought red handed and on camera be Innocent .
Jeeees!!!
Mike why do you let Peter Tolstoy Hitchens on to your programme???
May i suggest that inheritance tax on farms is so they can be bought by investment companies to ensure land is out of the hands of ordinary people... X or maybe I'm just being cynical..
The reason that questions are not being allowed in the house is to avoid embarrassing Starmer, Cooper and the government. Any indication that the government new within minutes or even hours of the terrorist connection and Starmer's actions in the immediate aftermath, would call into question many of the arrests and convictions for 'hurty words' on social media.
The issue is whether members freedom of expression should be impinged. While nothing should be said that could compromise a fair trial, this is a case where the government should be held to account as they appear to have actively peddled disinformation. The right to know and members ability to ask questions free of constraints, trumps the rights of the individual before the courts IMHO.
Another Champagne Socialist ,
Hes another labour fanatic
Soon as they get AI up and running the better. incompetent governments. Scared of a gobby mp. Saying stuff. public finding out that government had known about this low life. And instigated the riots
Absolutely disgraceful that Starmer via Hoyle has put a curfew on Southport but when its Starmer's definition of "Right Wing Thugs" its way to go with full on guilty before court and told its "custodial sentences" for shouting at a police dog! re-tweeting!!!! Starmer then gets up and says politicians, himself included, must not predicate the individual from having a fair trial! Further example of 2 Tier Kier if more examples required!!!!!!!
There really is no complexity!!
Same old same old.
I have a question. If Lindsey Hoyle can stop parliamentary discussion on the Southport case why was it acceptable to do so with the alleged far right protesters ?
Hoyle is a bloody joke
He just wantvyo keep his butt on his seat fat bank balance
Re: farms and inheritance. Bill Gates is the largest farmland owner in the USA. The other week he was filmed in No 10 with Reeves and Starmer. Is Gates planning on increasing his farmland portfolio into the UK?
Who holds the moral compass in the UK? Seemingly no one. Society is breaking down.
Needs to keep his mouth shut
Don't subvert the obvious!
Peter Hitchins being obtuse indeed. Questions can be asked in the HoC without it having a bearing on a legal case.
If the judge rules that the defendant can't get a fair trial, he'll be set free.
@@ShyTalks-d8b and if the judge was stupid enough to do that we would have total uproar. Fair trial! What about the kids who died? It’s total madness all this is just playing stupid games. Guilty full stop. Cover up is obvious.
Hitchen still living in the shadow of his much nicer and more intelligent late brother .
@@ShyTalks-d8b Starmer could be asked what he, the Home Secretary and the Merseyside Constabulary knew AND when they knew it. THAT for a start! Other questions too about their conduct in the aftermath, Starmer's interference in sentencing guidelines, the advice offered to those detained by duty solicitors, a statement on the death of Peter Lynch. Loads of pertinent questions could be asked. Instead, The Speaker showed his political bias in favour of this government (he had form when they were in opposition).
@@ShyTalks-d8b You're not James O Brian's drinking buddy, are you ?
Effectively Starmer used the Speaker of the house to prevent him being asked embarrassing questions about what he knew and when whilst spreading discontent across the nation with his devisive rhetoric.
Good debate chaps enjoyed hearing both aides debated amicably
Dogs bark, cats crap on your garden, cows moo and the labour party raises taxes.