Forgive My Grief: Penn Jones, Jr. with an introduction by James DiEiugenio (KPFK 1966, 2021)
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2021
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Discussion of his book, examining the Warren Commission's study of President Kennedy's assassination.
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00:00:00 James DiEugenio intro 00:22:30 Penn Jones Jr. interviewed by William O'Connell, KPFK 1966
Forgive my Grief, vols 1-4 archive.org/details/ForgiveMyGriefPennJonesJr
Baylor University Penn Jones collection: digitalcollections-baylor.quartexcollections.com/documents/filteroption/poage-legislative-library-penn-jones-collection/d0c0b8b4-b4a1-4602-b69a-94045ffd9552/view
James DiEugenio at kennedysandking.com
Thank you for sharing this valuable information.
Best Regards, Christer
When pointing out the champions of the ‘60s, particularly regarding the JFK assassination, there's Mark (The Mouth) Lane, Jim (The Great) Garrison, and then there's Penn (News Reporter of the Century) Jones! These men and their work must never fade away, but instead remain in our hearts and minds. Because after 50-some-odd years later, there remains dust clouds of dark, demonic corruption that's still very much present today! Personally, I thank all three men for their passion and courage! 🙏🏽
Amen
And MLK, Jnr (Let Freedom Reign) and RFK (mafia nemesis). These brave true patriots tried to correct the course of USA politics , but instead, most were cut down in there prime. America could truly of been great had they lived.
miss? interesting. you have a good grasp of history. greetings from Scotland x
For me there is no doubt....Our Government or elements that head Government were unquestionably responsible . No one other than the co conspirators controlled the evidence and the NARRATIVE. THAT POWER is that of the Masons within the National Security State. 60 yrs later still the same song and dance...Who or What has that power ? SKULL N BONES/CIA....OUR OWN!
Mae Brussell should be on that list along with Penn. They were the OG of researchers.
Penn Jones was one of the true heavyweights.
Here's a man that had reached the rank of Brigadier General, in the US Army, and who, not only despised the military, but immediately suspected them in the death of John Kennedy.
He was a fearless individual.
Penn Jones didn't give a shit he was telling it how it was and the threats the intimadation won't work...a true Texan hero an example to us all
He was the only one to mention
smoke rising from the storm drain.
And that shot blew JFK's brains out.
No one mentions anything about this today.
Apart from the now departed Jim Marrs.
@@markrymanowski719 Not saying Penn didn't say it, but do you have a source for this info?
@@Dartman6
Penn Jones has interviews here on utube.
I have listened to them all.
I can't remember in which one he mentions
the storm drain.
Best i can say.
@@markrymanowski719 After I asked you the question, listening to Penn in this interview he says he wasn't in Dealy Plaza during the assassination, but was waiting for the press conference at the trade mart. So it must have been second hand info to him.
@@Dartman6
He said he saw Ruby at the hospital.
He took many photo's. One of them
shows the back of Ruby.
He knew of a reporter who said he saw
smoke rising from the storm drain.
That reporter lost his job Sunday morning for what he said.
All this in the interviews on utube.
The gentleman Jim DiEugenio mentioned is Leo Savage whose article "The Oswald Affair" appeared in Commentary magazine in March of 1964. He later expanded it into book form as "The Oswald Affair - an Examination of the Contradictions and Omissions of the Warren Report"(1966).
Thank you for these excellent comments and additions.
Mae Brussell read the 26 volumes front to back and back to front. She never gets the credit she deserves.
I also am a Mae Brussel fan. You can listen to her broadcasts on the worldwatchers archive site. I like this site because it is arranged in a chronological order. There's also some of Mae's articles & other resources as well. It has a map showing the locations of listeners. Let's make Brigid's day by visiting this site. We can also see where we are in the world listening to these wonderful offerings. 6/6/21
Penn Jones Jr. was interviewed on Mae Brussell's show about the JFK assassination.
Proud Brussel Sprout here. I used to go to bed listening to her videos on UA-cam. I love when people mention Mae. It means her indomitable spirit and decades of research lives on in all of us!
I'm another big Mae Brussell fan. The passion she brought to the CT community was infectious. Her broadcasts are a main part of the reason I spent the last 35+ years researching and investigating the JFK assassination. I believe some of the answers we seek are right there, buried in those 26 volumes. For the last ten years, I've been concentrating on Mrs. Paine's four days of testimony.
@@barbaras2669 In one of Mae's interviews ( early 1971 ) she cites the original 11 researchers who got this whole ball rolling.....
I love Jim DiEiugenio, he’s one of the most knowledgeable people on the subject… him, Mark Lane, just a few people really are able to wrap their minds around it, and Vince Palamara is the Secret Service expert…
Excellent!!
Well, he predicted correctly that Ruby would die in custody
The debate Jim DiEugenio refers to occured at the Beverly Hills High School and can be heard on David Von Pein's JFK Channel "JFK Assassination Debate Mark Lane VS. Joseph Ball (December 4,1964)". Von Pein is a Warren Commission supporter but he has a lot of Kennedy materials on his channel. This debate is a great display of Mark Lane's ability as an advocate and reveals why he was so feared by the Warren Commission supporters. He actually has to debate 3 individuals. I highly recommend this debate. Dave also has "JFK Assassination Debate (Featuring Author Sylvan Fox) (November 1965) This covers the police radio transcripts which his book "The Unanswered Questions about the Kennedy Assassination" addresses.
Thank you for these excellent comments and additions.
The thing is about Lane vs Ball etc was that there was still a lot of documents being hidden at that time. Imagine what Mark Lane could have added in these debates if he had known about what the CIA was up to in the late 50s/early 60s or if he had access to FBI documents.
Fantastic interview.
Everything stated about the Warren Commission can also be said about the 9/11 Commission which was chaired by former NJ Governor Thomas Kean (R) and former US Congressman Lee Hamilton (D-IN). It was designed to appear completely open and bipartisan, but was never meant to get to the truth of what actually happened. It was all about confirming the official report.
great job on this interview!
Fantastic interview, really interesting. Great intro too.
I am surprised there are no publishers for this book?
I bought a pretty decent used copy of Vol 1 for $34.00...but most copies are in the hundreds of dollars. It would be great is someone would reprint them...
George butler Dallas pd was hl hunts man.
John birch society. Penn Jones helped Roger Craig after he was fired by sheriff Decker for speaking out.
Predicts ruby's fate spot on. But anybody with any street sense would know ruby's life was short lived at this point.
Dorothy Kilgallen was one of the early female reporters who pre-tv started out covering crime mainly murder cases. That was and still is of great interest to the public. She got her hands on Jack Ruby's Warren Report testimony before it was released by the Commission. She was instrumental in getting the Sam Shepard murder verdict overturned. This was the case "The Fugitive" tv series & movie were the inspiration for. Her column "Voice of Broadway" ran from 1938 through 1965 the year of her death. The FBI had her under surveillance & maintained a file on her. Mark Shaw has written 2 books on Dorothy. " The Reporter Who Knew Too Much" & Denial of Justice. He wrote "Melvin Belli: King of the Courtroom", who was Jack Ruby's lawyer. He also wrote "The Poison Patriarch: How the Betrayals of Joseph P. Kennedy Caused the Assassination of JFK".
She didn't get her hands on Ruby's WC testimony. What she did was get the only one on one interview with Ruby.
@@allenjohnson4043 She did get her hands on Ruby's testimony before it was published in the Warren Report and reported on it in her newspaper column. She also got her hands on the Dallas police logs and reported on those before they were released. Ms Kilgallen published a number of article on the Kennedy Assassination in her column. You should read the biographies on her or the entry on her at Spartacus Educational which shows portions of the various articles. You are correct she did get a short interview with Ruby but no one knows what it contained.
@@barbaras2669 She's seen sitting next to Ruby at his trial.
@susanmattinglyhatfield9036 Network television news footage of recesses in Jack Ruby’s trial shows Dorothy Kilgallen seated next to two of his defense lawyers. Also, Penn Jones screwed up Forgive My Grief Volume 2 by saying in it that not only was Dorothy murdered, so was her friend. Jones refers to the friend as “Mrs. Earl E. T. Smith.” The truth is that Miss Kilgallen could have been murdered, but Mrs. Smith could not have been. I have a certified copy of the death certificate of each lady. I contacted multiple surviving loved ones. Mrs. Florence Pritchett Smith died of a cerebral hemorrhage after a few months of struggling with leukemia. Her death certificate was signed by her personal physician, Dr. Norton Brown. She died in her family’s Manhattan apartment.
Mae Brussell did quite few shows with Penn... Mae was also one of the voices of truth and discoverer of evidence...
I want his book but I can't afford it.
There are free PDFs linked in the comments.
Here you go, the four volumes of his book, plus 'The Continuing Inquiry' newsletter
Forgive my Grief, vols 1-4 archive.org/details/ForgiveMyGriefPennJonesJr
Baylor University Penn Jones collection: digitalcollections-baylor.quartexcollections.com/documents/filteroption/poage-legislative-library-penn-jones-collection/d0c0b8b4-b4a1-4602-b69a-94045ffd9552/view
@@DaveSCameron Here you go, the four volumes of his book, plus 'The Continuing Inquiry' newsletter
Forgive my Grief, vols 1-4 archive.org/details/ForgiveMyGriefPennJonesJr
Baylor University Penn Jones collection: digitalcollections-baylor.quartexcollections.com/documents/filteroption/poage-legislative-library-penn-jones-collection/d0c0b8b4-b4a1-4602-b69a-94045ffd9552/view
@@OurHiddenHistoryRevealed
Thanks so much for posting these links as well as the excellent video with an introduction by Jim DiEugenio (Kennedys and King) which had me doing research on Jim's many points in the middle of the night. Jim has such a broad knowledge on JFK & his ssassination & it's aftermath. If you're not already familiar with Len Osanic's Black Op Radio, Jim DiEugenio is a frequent guest. You'll get all the latest research, activities & participants involved with JFK research & occasionally other topics.
Look on the internet archive site. They have good PDF copies
I started reading this book online and browsing through it and jeez… is it all just Warren Commission testimony word for word???? I could just read the Warren report myself (which I have, and must of the evidence in the volumes)
Honest question: what came out of the latest release of JFK files that Trump promised to release all but then held back some, at the behest of the CIA? Were they helpful?
This should be good: whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/analyzing-the-new-jfk-revelations/
Interesting that Peter Dale Scott was against Garrison; does anyone have a source for that?
I heard that before!
@William Murray Might not have been wanting him muzzled. Garrison ultimately violated the Deep Throat axiom that if you sim too high and miss everybody at risk fells more secure. Scott probably thought Garrison did more harm than good. I remember watching Garrison on The Tonight Show giving away his whole case BEFORE the trial of Clay Shaw and it pissed me off that he would expose his whole case on tv before the trial occurred.
I think I should have put it that Scott would have preferred Garrison not talk publicly so much, and not reveal details before trial. Also, the Deep Throat maxim is if you aim too high and miss, everybody feels more secure.
You can find FORGIVE MY GRIEF VOL 1 - 4 on the internet archive. And you should read them. He got a lot of stuff wrong, actually, but he was a sincere man, with yuuge nuts, and a sense of Patriotic Duty that is far too absent with a majority of "lefties" today...
Hello William, could you list the stuff he got wrong? Not critical of your statement, I just want to learn more about Penn Jones Jr. Thank You for your time in advance.
@@4pokeryou I would as well
I love Jim's books but it often seems it takes him 10 minutes to say something that should take only two minutes.
00:00:00 James DiEugenio intro 00:22:30 Penn Jones Jr. interviewed by William O'Connell, KPFK 1966
Forgive my Grief, vols 1-4 archive.org/details/ForgiveMyGriefPennJonesJr
Baylor University Penn Jones collection: digitalcollections-baylor.quartexcollections.com/documents/filteroption/poage-legislative-library-penn-jones-collection/d0c0b8b4-b4a1-4602-b69a-94045ffd9552/view