Also, this student is the perfect example that just goes to show that playing the piano is only an instrument, and the music comes from deep inside the mind and soul.
Yes. That's my impression. He's overwhelming her. It's one thing to be in touch with the music but it's also necessary to be in touch with the student otherwise it's hard work. This is painfully hard work. He needs to retrench, calm down and get present to the student. She's not a machine.
I feel that this student should have her teacher come out and get the lesson. She's clearly never been encouraged to think about the music very deeply. However, it does give Mr Itin a chance to explain much more and so for the viewer it becomes more interesting.
Interesting to listen, I don't know what kind of passion this woman has when it comes to Rachmaminoff, but it does not sound like she has it. Difficult to work with this student. Master classes are amazing to watch, I hope there is more Rachmaninoff master classes, only with a student that really feels the music.
Yeah, understand deeply music takes a long time for some people, get some meaning of the piece you are playing is not that easy. Also, she doesn't have to feel the music like you, there's a lot of ways to tell how you feel. Don't take this bad, greetings :)
The distinct difference between a pianist and an artist. Romantic era music isn't meant to be precise it's meant to be expressive. Hate to sound like a jerk but most Asian pianist go with Mozart or Beethoven or Bach for that reason..
I love that Ilya stops her and helps her with phrasing, and techniques to change the color of the notes. I am currently learning this piece, and my teacher is doing the exact same thing with me. I worked on the tenutos on the first 2 pages for 2 weeks just to figure out how to produce a different sound. I also would give the young lady a lot of credit. If I were her I would be so nervous and my brain would be so frozen in the presence of such a great teacher and muscian. Love Ilya Itin. All teachers should teach like this at this level.
@@Zdanler I have not played this piece any more since last year. i couldn't see any improvement in my playing although i did my best. haha 🤣i couldnt make the sound i really wanted and i couldnt follow the required tempo. my hands were injured long ago....this might be the reason why i found this more and more difficult and couldnt see any improvement 🤣🤣
With a student as young as her, I don't think her main focus should be her interpretation of the piece. Sure, the piece is most definitely open to rubato and interpretation, but she'd be much better off sticking with Rachmaninoff's score. If she wants to self interpret, then it has to be convincing and so far, I haven't been convinced in the spots where she plays to her liking. Hope she can go far in the future, and also learn a bit of music theory. Would be very interested to see a video of her playing after the Master Class.
Interesting. I've just started studying the Elegie for grade 8 and the teachers notes for the grade suggest that the student develop a narrative to establish what the music is saying.
It is essentially what he is doing except he it doing it without forcing a specific narrative, I'm assuming he's doing that to let the student have her own narrative in the process (which it doesn't look like she has). I too am learning the Elegie, but it conveys such expressions of sadness and grief that words would be never able to describe, so I would say it's better to focus on the music how it is not on a specific narrative.
This M. Itin might be good at playing other pieces or teaching other ones, but wow he is so wrong here in so many places. He is also constantly putting unnecessary pressure and comments on the student, talk about teachers who end up discouraging students. I would personally have replied to him at every comment where he is completely wrong. Starting with the very first bass note, that he wants to be played almost forte, completely wrong and not as written. M. Itin might be very good at creating his own views on how some repertoire should be played, but he is totally disrespectful of the composer and what was intended.
Also, this student is the perfect example that just goes to show that playing the piano is only an instrument, and the music comes from deep inside the mind and soul.
She's got it he's just not aware of her and is browbeating her.
@@984francis Well, I also think that she plays it kinda cold and that there is something missing / bothering me.
I watched this months, maybe years ago. The last bar is Sergei Rachmaninoff's signature, Ser eb gei bb Rach gb man eb, ni bb noff bb
lol just found out
she's jsut a little shy why bash her so much people
Yes. That's my impression. He's overwhelming her. It's one thing to be in touch with the music but it's also necessary to be in touch with the student otherwise it's hard work. This is painfully hard work. He needs to retrench, calm down and get present to the student. She's not a machine.
I feel that this student should have her teacher come out and get the lesson. She's clearly never been encouraged to think about the music very deeply. However, it does give Mr Itin a chance to explain much more and so for the viewer it becomes more interesting.
I think she did really well. It must be so nerve-racking to play in front of him.
I believe she's very capable
Interesting to listen, I don't know what kind of passion this woman has when it comes to Rachmaminoff, but it does not sound like she has it. Difficult to work with this student. Master classes are amazing to watch, I hope there is more Rachmaninoff master classes, only with a student that really feels the music.
Logan Lentilus - I feel that is why she is there, to learn from him.
Yeah, understand deeply music takes a long time for some people, get some meaning of the piece you are playing is not that easy. Also, she doesn't have to feel the music like you, there's a lot of ways to tell how you feel. Don't take this bad, greetings :)
The distinct difference between a pianist and an artist. Romantic era music isn't meant to be precise it's meant to be expressive. Hate to sound like a jerk but most Asian pianist go with Mozart or Beethoven or Bach for that reason..
@-insert forgettable name- not in this case...
agreed
Any way I should stop critizing and say I really loved this video. Thanks for posting! You had a very lyrical way of playing it! 👍
Where is the rest please want to see more !!!
I love that Ilya stops her and helps her with phrasing, and techniques to change the color of the notes. I am currently learning this piece, and my teacher is doing the exact same thing with me. I worked on the tenutos on the first 2 pages for 2 weeks just to figure out how to produce a different sound. I also would give the young lady a lot of credit. If I were her I would be so nervous and my brain would be so frozen in the presence of such a great teacher and muscian. Love Ilya Itin. All teachers should teach like this at this level.
i am going to Antarctic soon in my cruiser. most important thing i would carry would be Rach's Op.3 No.1 Elegie and Brahms No.4
Jeez am i the only one that had literally 12 ads play during this video.
Im gona enter an exam with this piece, I hope the teacher will be like this
Why you didn't let her play the piano and then you can speak...?
I feel some hope in the last part in this piece. I am practicing this these days. but this music is much more difficult than i thought.
@@Zdanler I have not played this piece any more since last year. i couldn't see any improvement in my playing although i did my best. haha 🤣i couldnt make the sound i really wanted and i couldnt follow the required tempo. my hands were injured long ago....this might be the reason why i found this more and more difficult and couldnt see any improvement 🤣🤣
where's the rest?
Thank you for sharing. graet teacher
With a student as young as her, I don't think her main focus should be her interpretation of the piece. Sure, the piece is most definitely open to rubato and interpretation, but she'd be much better off sticking with Rachmaninoff's score. If she wants to self interpret, then it has to be convincing and so far, I haven't been convinced in the spots where she plays to her liking. Hope she can go far in the future, and also learn a bit of music theory. Would be very interested to see a video of her playing after the Master Class.
Interesting. I've just started studying the Elegie for grade 8 and the teachers notes for the grade suggest that the student develop a narrative to establish what the music is saying.
It is essentially what he is doing except he it doing it without forcing a specific narrative, I'm assuming he's doing that to let the student have her own narrative in the process (which it doesn't look like she has). I too am learning the Elegie, but it conveys such expressions of sadness and grief that words would be never able to describe, so I would say it's better to focus on the music how it is not on a specific narrative.
984francis Wow same man... have you finished it?
teacher people never will understand why
WHo understands what that man says - - -chaos
I think he is good
me
don't bully people with dyslexia
Suck it. He’s a genius.
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This M. Itin might be good at playing other pieces or teaching other ones, but wow he is so wrong here in so many places. He is also constantly putting unnecessary pressure and comments on the student, talk about teachers who end up discouraging students. I would personally have replied to him at every comment where he is completely wrong. Starting with the very first bass note, that he wants to be played almost forte, completely wrong and not as written. M. Itin might be very good at creating his own views on how some repertoire should be played, but he is totally disrespectful of the composer and what was intended.
the teacher tries to confuse himself🤣 maybe he plays well but he doesn't know how to teach.
A real artist but may be not a teacher. A good student but not an artist in the future... sorry...