2023 Disc Golf Pro Tour Championship | MPO R1F9| Heimburg, Robinson, Buhr, Wysocki | Jomez Disc Golf

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  • @JomezPro
    @JomezPro  Рік тому +4

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    • @mikebrannon6197
      @mikebrannon6197 Рік тому

      Hey guys, phenomenal coverage as always! Just a small suggestion...when you show leaderboard at the end of certain holes, I'd recommend displaying all scores though the top 12, or tied for 12th place, so we can see who is potentially making the cut for rounds 3 & 4. Great work!

    • @WillRadney
      @WillRadney Рік тому

      not the best for disc golf they will wear faster then any other shoe

  • @jermug
    @jermug Рік тому +311

    That McBeth sunglass ad is such a meme, I can't take it seriously

    • @ryanmustain6545
      @ryanmustain6545 Рік тому +47

      The look on his face during the ad makes it seem like he's thinking the same thing.

    • @sammyjamjar
      @sammyjamjar Рік тому +25

      @@ryanmustain6545 the massive sigh at the end lmao

    • @jaredlindenberger
      @jaredlindenberger Рік тому +15

      It's not good. Haha

    • @elderberrysnackshack6655
      @elderberrysnackshack6655 Рік тому +26

      ​@ryanmustain6545 the fact they don't even fit his face make it even funnier. Like he has such good style and they look miserable.

    • @SkeletorJenkins
      @SkeletorJenkins Рік тому +5

      He just has well have put on a welding hood.

  • @curdit9
    @curdit9 Рік тому +46

    Next year, it'd be nice to have one camera dedicated to following bubble players and giving Bubble Check-ins. That's where the real drama is during these first two rounds.
    I'd also like to see the leader board between holes have about three slots at the bottom showing players right at the cut line.

    • @xzacto3100
      @xzacto3100 Рік тому

      They have those cams and they probably have them next round but not for this Rouen because they are less important rn

  • @landonwebb886
    @landonwebb886 Рік тому +30

    Thank goodness Jomez is back! Missed you guys last week 😢

  • @squatchhunter15
    @squatchhunter15 Рік тому +75

    I recognize that this is lead card, but I wouldn't mind watching a middle card on day one with this format. Would be fun to see the guys with a little more pressure to make the first cut IMO. Thanks for the coverage, fellas!

    • @funkgremlin2765
      @funkgremlin2765 Рік тому +1

      I think the whole reason they changed the format is so people could see the top players in the world on day one. I agree with you tho

    • @weo4762
      @weo4762 Рік тому +11

      There’s always Gatekeeper coverage

    • @darinladd5312
      @darinladd5312 Рік тому

      @@weo4762that's where it's at! (but no nathan queen...😢)

  • @forwardfollower2401
    @forwardfollower2401 Рік тому +4

    I feel like the dog at the door seeing Jomez walk in, tail wagging excitedly like "OMG where have you been...." ....missed you :)

  • @bensalemi7783
    @bensalemi7783 Рік тому +2

    “Jomez wedding cake” 😂 Paul Ulibarri you are truly a rare gem. Unpolished, sure, but an absolute gem!

  • @jonbohley3406
    @jonbohley3406 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic job JomezPro! I love that you are displaying the name of the disc thrown for 2nd and 3rd shots!!

  • @ElyriaRecords
    @ElyriaRecords Рік тому +4

    Thanks to all Jomez crew for great coverage of a difficult track! Love the disc info off the tee!!!

  • @levesquestech4649
    @levesquestech4649 Рік тому +4

    Cool hole shot on 5 catching the deer by the basket!

  • @SpencerDonahue
    @SpencerDonahue Рік тому +36

    So glad there is good coverage of this event this year, watching this stuff on DGPT coverage is generally an awful and unenjoyable experience.

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому +1

      Didn't they do a weird next week coverage or something last year or something like that?

    • @user-ko1qo7qw8r
      @user-ko1qo7qw8r Рік тому +2

      DGPT is Jomez now....

    • @Davivd2
      @Davivd2 Рік тому +1

      Do they do live coverage for like 5 hours that bounces all over the place like traditional golf? One of the big reasons that I watch Disc Golf is that I get to watch a group from start to finish. How the game is covered makes a huge difference to me.

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому

      @@Davivd2 yeah it bounces around basically 3 cards and then does check ins on other cards farther through the course

    • @SpencerDonahue
      @SpencerDonahue Рік тому

      @@SmallDoggo37 it was over a month before they let the post production teams air their footage.

  • @JaySteetsArt
    @JaySteetsArt Рік тому +5

    Sick Pink Floyd homage during the Jerm exposition in the opener. 💯🔥

  • @cadevaughn7596
    @cadevaughn7596 Рік тому

    Thank you Jomez! On a side note I've been ignoring, you've gone one beyond 444k subscribers. I feel like that number must have been the population of disc golfers in the world.

  • @a.j.5108
    @a.j.5108 Рік тому

    Thank you Big germ for shouting out the other Queen City, Cincinnati. Disc golf is super big here also. I dream of Ohio having a pro tour event (aside from idlewild). There are so many great courses within an hour of Idlewild

  • @brandonfbomb_2327
    @brandonfbomb_2327 Рік тому +16

    Ricky's front 9 score card is the definition of all gas, no brakes disc golf 😮

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Рік тому +3

    Watching this is sublime. Never stop doing it right, Jomez Pro!
    This in stark contrast to trying to watch DGPT's USDGC coverage - that is like being stabbed in the eyes, 15 times a second.
    Their 360p15 really reminds me of bad disc golf coverage from 2009.

  • @kev13v1
    @kev13v1 Рік тому

    Ricky and Calvin are absolute BEASTS love watching them throw

  • @DOOBERtv
    @DOOBERtv Рік тому +1

    can someone please explain to me if this is a foot fault or this is just hop jump puts work? 33:53

    • @boucher7719
      @boucher7719 Рік тому

      Outside of circle one (10m or 33ft) you can step or jump or otherwise fallow through past you lie. The disc must leave your hand before you land beyond your spot. Gannon is close but it’s out before his foot hits the ground. You can see the orange marker in front of him showing where the edge of circle one is. If you’re inside circle one you must remain balanced behind your lie or it’s a foot fault. Hope this helps.

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому +1

      I think he foot faulted that one. his front foot looks to be off the ground while the disc is still in his hand. I could be wrong about that, but thats how it looked to me

    • @DOOBERtv
      @DOOBERtv Рік тому

      @jamesturner7488 thank you! I did not know it was before your foot touches the ground

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому

      @@DOOBERtv that is not the full rule. you have to have a connection behind your disc when you let go. Or else you could take a basketball jump shot lol

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому +1

      @@jamesturner7488 You also have to look at his foot behind his lie that comes off the ground before he releases the disc. You can not be in mid air when you release the disc. Your landing foot cant hit the ground AND your supporting foot must be on the ground when you release the disc

  • @joshstandridge9763
    @joshstandridge9763 Рік тому

    Gannon’s caddy with the double bag duty. 😂 front and back!

  • @danieljohnson9081
    @danieljohnson9081 Рік тому +1

    So lucky to call Charlotte my disc golf home!! Love seeing these guys on our home turf! Great work by all the volunteers and staff who made this week possible! Not all heros wear capes ❤️ much love fellow huckers❤️

  • @darinladd5312
    @darinladd5312 Рік тому

    i bet the players love this format, or most of it. it's a nod to the old tournaments and compares well with ball golf. i personally love the multiple second-chances players get...as long as they stay in striking-distance. a bit complicated, but no more than mlb, nhl, nfl, uefa(!!!), and/or pga.

  • @Nick-jk8zw
    @Nick-jk8zw Рік тому

    It disappoints me that JAMES PROCTOR doesn’t get NEARLY ENOUGH credit. Dude has been on almost all lead or chase card all year long. Maybe 1 or 2 tours he wasn’t on lead or chase but the dude is on fire this season he’s just a straight up good player who knows his discs. Which could be a little difficult when your sponsor literally has access to every single mold in every single plastic. He’s a top 3-5 player and deserves more recognition and mentioned more. One of my favorite professionals athletes. He’s a humble dude but proves he deserves Respect. Just because he doesn’t have a world title or DGPT championship win YET the dude deserves mad respect and more spotlight

  • @TheQuicksilver115
    @TheQuicksilver115 Рік тому

    Are you kidding me?! Robinson breaking out a forehand on hole THREE!? I am so freakin' excited, this tournament is going to be SUCH a banger!

  • @krishnagoon
    @krishnagoon Рік тому

    I love that format!

  • @artvandelay2441
    @artvandelay2441 Рік тому

    Yayyyyy you're back!

  • @MrBrockAttack
    @MrBrockAttack Рік тому +1

    good job on getting the coverage out early

  • @kalen1702
    @kalen1702 Рік тому +4

    I don't know if I'm a fan of this layout yet, but I sure am a fan of your coverage. Great to see you guys back out here covering this event!

  • @acefutura.norcal6237
    @acefutura.norcal6237 Рік тому

    thanks for the shout-out for the course announcer. now turn up his volume and be quiet so we can hear him and the crowd.

  • @chadjacksonDG
    @chadjacksonDG Рік тому +5

    The format isn’t confusing.

  • @JClark2600
    @JClark2600 Рік тому

    Glad you guys are covering this event. Sucks that the PDGA kicked you guys off many of the majors to go with their own in-house service. The coverage, the calls, the non biased views are missed. I hardly watch disc golf anymore unless I see Jomez pop up in my feed. The funny thing is that I bought my first PDGA membership after 7 years playing disc golf only after I watched Jomez for the first 2 years. Then around covid time I saw I was missing coverage because PDGA wanted to blackout others in support of their service. I never renewed my membership after that.
    Last week I was talking to some of the other guys I play with and they said the same thing. The PDGA saw how popular Jomez was and I guess they thought you were scooping up the UA-cam $$$ and got greedy. Well screw them, I don't play tourny's and I don't have the time during the day to watch 4 hour live streams. I have 4 hours a week to play disc golf, if I'm lucky. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Back when it was just Jomez and CCDG it was great.

  • @SuPrMoNk1
    @SuPrMoNk1 4 місяці тому

    Those scores LoL
    Love me some Jomez

  • @nickfraver5638
    @nickfraver5638 Рік тому +1

    Happy to see disc golf tournament is back on Jomez, not on DGN

  • @rogernock7865
    @rogernock7865 Рік тому

    Perfect Barney score card for Rick! Epic!

  • @ThomasDercole2230
    @ThomasDercole2230 Рік тому +1

    Disc Golf is the greatest sport period

  • @spinewrenched848
    @spinewrenched848 Рік тому +1

    I dont think Paul will sell any shades with that add?

  • @untrustworthyshelfing9953
    @untrustworthyshelfing9953 Рік тому

    Hole 6 was absolutely awesome to watch.

  • @JClark2600
    @JClark2600 Рік тому

    If I were to create a stroke playoff event I'd do the starting strokes different. For example; Scoring leaders 1st-4th get (-4 to -1), if you win a major you get another -1, if you win a masters you get -2 with runner-up getting -1. Or something to that effect. The way this event is managed from day one just seems like it doesn't favor someone who won everything all year then has 1 bad day and your out of the running for the biggest payday of the year. There should be some way to ensure the top play on tour all year can have just one bad day and be cut from the biggest payday, especially on hard wooded courses.

  • @tomthefall
    @tomthefall Рік тому

    I have never ever seen someone with 6 birdies on the front 9, but still only shooting even par. What a crazy start to the round

  • @HodgesHodgeMusic
    @HodgesHodgeMusic 10 місяців тому

    whoever made the music for jomez popped off fr

  • @dogma8073
    @dogma8073 Рік тому

    Wow i love pro discgolf and i love BIG CREAM. thank you BIG CREAM for sponsoring disc golf. YOu know what they say, BIG CREAM means BIG CASH.
    w

  • @danielsigursson6215
    @danielsigursson6215 Рік тому

    Isaacs' putts continue to be my favorites. Looks like he ain't even trying.

  • @dispersingweight
    @dispersingweight 10 місяців тому +1

    Ricky's midrange is underrated. I might be wrong. I am a idiot.

  • @andrewlundiii1387
    @andrewlundiii1387 Рік тому

    Year-old licorice is SO good. We call that AGED licorice, haha

  • @jonholt8071
    @jonholt8071 Рік тому +1

    I have so much anticipation to watch. Thanks for finally posting!

    • @hunterdasal7434
      @hunterdasal7434 Рік тому +4

      What to you mean finally? This is just next day coverage like always

  • @mattschion
    @mattschion Рік тому

    Ricky just wants a cool looking card!!!

  • @bica4120
    @bica4120 Рік тому

    Why Gannon disc are never show ?

  • @TCoutdoors95
    @TCoutdoors95 Рік тому +2

    Maybe just me but I think it would be nice for Jerm to give us insight as someone who was walking right there with the card. Instead of the commentary as if it was his first time seeing it.

  • @beauhanson3318
    @beauhanson3318 Рік тому

    Calvin throwing a prodigy disc @8:49? Am I missing something?

    • @KillRoy117
      @KillRoy117 Рік тому +10

      Yes you are missing something incredibly obvious. Like watching who was actually throwing then

    • @mindlander
      @mindlander Рік тому

      Lol

  • @markhumphrey8894
    @markhumphrey8894 Рік тому

    that caddie could pull a cart and caddie for 3 players!

  • @nickdagamer
    @nickdagamer Рік тому

    gotta love the ffeature card!

  • @Universal-Jack
    @Universal-Jack Рік тому +11

    Oh man, its a good thing Jerm clarified the format for all of us. 😂

    • @stopdropanddrumroll
      @stopdropanddrumroll Рік тому +2

      Yea, I’m still lost. Top 12 scores move on to sat/sun and then top 12 scores go to the playoff? Maybe I missed something.

    • @xzacto3100
      @xzacto3100 Рік тому

      @@stopdropanddrumrolltop 12 from days 1&2 move on to sat and sun. On Sunday all 12 that moved on start over at even par and play 2 regular rounds to decide winner

  • @easy3discgolf144
    @easy3discgolf144 Рік тому

    Has Rickey ever had 3 doubles on a front 9 in his career? What a wild start.

  • @mehameha4453
    @mehameha4453 Рік тому +1

    I still am waiting for the USDGC to drop on this site. I hear it will be available starting Oct 19th. After that I will watch this tournament. Their live coverage on DGN and their commentary as well as their camera angles are unpalatable. They ruined it and still are too stubborn to fix it due to greed. Maybe one day they will cater to the fans. Most people I talk to are still not ever going to watch DGN. It sucks. We always wait until post production. It’s much better and less annoying. We won’t don’t pay for garbage.

  • @DrPhill2569
    @DrPhill2569 Рік тому +3

    Pulling for Calvin so hard to come out on top this tournament. This layout really does screw him over for being the most consistent player on tour all year. Like why not give a pro-rated payout to the top guys before the tournament for their points finish, or at least let him have the stroke lead going into the final 12 instead of the reset? What if he was hurt going into this tournament since he’s played every tourney all year? That alone could completely dismantle a year’s worth of work. I’m glad to see he is throwing well to start. I think this layout needs further revising.

  • @NoBreadsticks
    @NoBreadsticks Рік тому

    That's the craziest front 9 score card I've ever seen lol

  • @donovangmike
    @donovangmike Рік тому

    Jomez wedding cake!

  • @a.j.5108
    @a.j.5108 Рік тому

    Rick is playing like it's league doubles, unfortunately there's no partner to play the safe shot 😂

  • @dazzanw5067
    @dazzanw5067 Рік тому +2

    If you’re confused about the format….remember the DGPT is striving to become the PGA TOUR, this is no different! By sucking the life blood, out of everything unique/different the DGPT couldn’t think of anything original, so instead they “borrow” the exact same format as the ©️ “FEDEX CUP”…(from wiki-, The FedEx Cup is the championship trophy for the PGA Tour. Its introduction in 2007 marked the first time that men's professional golf had a playoff system. Since its inception, the competition has been sponsored by FedEx) So again, just as they’ve done with the “live” broadcast, on the course “pre-round” show, the “after show”, “the tournament pre-show/recap”….just like they’ve done with “the hair gel and polo shirts” we get our Brandel Shamblee blabber from Brian Earhart, who’s reporting on/off around, up and down, hard hitting insights like “Calvin is gonna an advantage (no shxt) he gets 6 strokes and this course sets up long straight tunnel shots…..back to you Terry” isn’t it great! Thanks DGPT! You’ve taken a once original, unique, amazing game with the most diverse incredible community and forced polo shirt, hair gel country club, copycat PGA TOUR YUPPIE vibes on all of us! So lame! I don’t think “growing the game” behind a paywall and making it a exact replica of the PGA TOUR is the ticket, however I’m not part of “dumb masses” who lie, cheat and steal under the guise of a corporation and call it “good business” or “nothing personal….it’s just business”! Welcome to DG clown world, kinda appropriate in 2023 to go along with everything else! Technodildonics anyone?! SMH!

  • @atlivalgeirsson3853
    @atlivalgeirsson3853 Рік тому +1

    this format is not complicated, the last format was complicated

  • @jeromycaballero91
    @jeromycaballero91 Рік тому

    Is that guy caddying for both Isaac and Gannon?

  • @turdferguson1945
    @turdferguson1945 Рік тому

    Fun fact- the city of Charlotte has twice as many people as the city of Atlanta.

  • @Superfly816
    @Superfly816 Рік тому

    Cincinnati is the TRUE Queen City, and aside from Idlewild, there are a TON of courses in The Ohio River Valley.

  • @pokeroots2
    @pokeroots2 Рік тому

    how are these guys -7 on hole 2 in round 1?

  • @dnewcomb77
    @dnewcomb77 Рік тому

    Was that Jerm I saw standing on his own behind hole 1 after Ricky's long drive(4:57m)?

  • @allstargaming0377
    @allstargaming0377 Рік тому

    Did Gannons caddy have two bags on 😂😂

  • @AaronsTalks
    @AaronsTalks Рік тому

    TEAM HEIMBURG, LETSSSSS GO

  • @angelilarraza119
    @angelilarraza119 Рік тому +1

    I’m so happy burr is making terrible shots. Let’s go vinnie!!!!

  • @tannertagg7999
    @tannertagg7999 Рік тому

    Hard to do well here if you don't have a hyzer flip game

  • @YouLikeThat14
    @YouLikeThat14 Рік тому

    ngl that explanation at the beginning of the video was confusing af but after rewinding and re listening i was able to decipher the meaning lol. thanks for the explanation regardless though.

    • @Johnmtankard
      @Johnmtankard Рік тому

      How was it confusing? Explained it simply 🤷‍♂️

  • @Name42128
    @Name42128 Рік тому

    👏👏👏

  • @keithshred
    @keithshred Рік тому

    Rep the true Queen City, Cincinnati. Nati Boyz 4 life.

  • @mikepitts8470
    @mikepitts8470 Рік тому

    Those sunglasses are so bad! 😂

  • @tannertagg7999
    @tannertagg7999 Рік тому

    Let's goooooo!!

  • @MrBrockAttack
    @MrBrockAttack Рік тому +2

    Isaac seems off...especially the usual rock-solid putting.

  • @TENGILL
    @TENGILL Рік тому

    Man look at that legend, caddying for 2 players and running dubble bags!
    What is his name?

  • @jeremeysmith2620
    @jeremeysmith2620 Рік тому

    Anybody else see the deer on hole 5? haha

  • @mitchrob100
    @mitchrob100 Рік тому

    Yes

  • @anthony452
    @anthony452 Рік тому

    How is the total score and round score different if this is the first round??

    • @Imrightyourewrong1
      @Imrightyourewrong1 Рік тому

      Well considering that's the first thing they explain in this video I suggest you start over and answer your own question

    • @anthony452
      @anthony452 Рік тому

      @@Imrightyourewrong1 Sorry, I watch while working and have the volume turned down. I'll do back and check after.

  • @DirtyRandy420.0
    @DirtyRandy420.0 Рік тому

    First year watching worlds and man a -6 advantage to start? A real “yours to lose” situation

  • @nanthanielw4210
    @nanthanielw4210 Рік тому

    I feel like they were hung over during this commentary.

  • @matthewcheeseman2840
    @matthewcheeseman2840 Рік тому

    Hey Vessi Can you make a wide style diabetic shoe, Please

  • @thedavidrussellking
    @thedavidrussellking Рік тому

    But did Ricky find his mini?😢

  • @theoausborn5682
    @theoausborn5682 Рік тому +3

    Man please please please, I’ve somehow avoided USDGC spoilers… I beg don’t spoil it for me

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому +1

      you cant spoil live sports. Paul McBeth came back and won again

    • @laureeeent
      @laureeeent Рік тому

      ah ah same, can't wait for usdgc coverage!

  • @tatewinters5565
    @tatewinters5565 Рік тому

    Where's Paul?

  • @jonaharnot736
    @jonaharnot736 Рік тому

    OMG Yuli, that wedding cake comment was freaking hilarious! And accurate. My wife liked it too :)

  • @ZachBoyce_DG
    @ZachBoyce_DG Рік тому

    how tf is this up and not USDGC??

  • @Jase-ul5yi
    @Jase-ul5yi Рік тому +1

    One thing I don't like is if a player ends the 2nd round 6 strokes in the lead is it's all erased and they all start round 3 at even? Kinda crazy. It's like all that matters is the final 2 rounds

  • @SurvivalPunk
    @SurvivalPunk Рік тому +1

    Where usdgc coverage at?

  • @quazzydiscman
    @quazzydiscman Рік тому

    I don't know what to think about the handicap system...

  • @jorginhoabreu5545
    @jorginhoabreu5545 Рік тому

    How this guys are at -7 … if is round 1 ?

  • @alexbisnett8751
    @alexbisnett8751 Рік тому +5

    Not sure why people keep talking about the complicated format. It's pretty simple.

  • @landonwebb886
    @landonwebb886 Рік тому +1

    I hate to say it because this place looks way fun to play, but filming here has to be brutal, it is tough to see where some of these are going

  • @lynch42o
    @lynch42o Рік тому

    Calvin lost because of his putting. Most of the tournys were his to lose this year... And if Eagle could control his damn emotions, and quit being such a priss, he would be almost unstoppable.

  • @mindlander
    @mindlander Рік тому

    This course is rough. Looks fun to play, bad for competitive play.

  • @tymonjames8577
    @tymonjames8577 Рік тому

    😎

  • @RandomShip23
    @RandomShip23 Рік тому

    Jonathan looks dead inside during the sponsor segments.

    • @JustDisc
      @JustDisc Рік тому

      He always does lol. They need to hire someone with some actual emotions for these commercials. If I was the sponsor, I’d be upset 😂

  • @jaundice27
    @jaundice27 Рік тому

    I am even more confused after the intro

  • @pelletlike
    @pelletlike Рік тому

    What did Uli say on hole 5? Putting is a poor man's ... ?

  • @flyingpersian
    @flyingpersian Рік тому

    I think it's a bad sign for the format whenever you have to open your coverage with an explanation

  • @Drsmiley72
    @Drsmiley72 Рік тому +1

    maybe im looking at it wrong, but shouldnt the players lower on the tier list be the ones who get the extra points so they have a better chance of keeping up/winning? instead of the best players getting to start with -6

    • @Drsmiley72
      @Drsmiley72 Рік тому

      like otherwsie unless the mess up horribly, the top few will remian in the top. not that its bad, but still. or keep them all at 0.

    • @trevorvanderwoerd8915
      @trevorvanderwoerd8915 Рік тому +3

      This event is meant to reward the whole year, not just the weekend of the tournament. The players at the top just need to not make too many mistakes because they've earned it all year long.

    • @SmallDoggo37
      @SmallDoggo37 Рік тому

      No. Its a year long thing that gets someone to qualify for this tournament. Why would someone who played well all year be punished and someone that played worse than them get a head start? Its a tour championship so it takes into account the whole tour

    • @tyst5927
      @tyst5927 Рік тому

      Personally dont understand where they got -6 for Calvin or how they determined that made the most sense. How about instead you just give them a bye to the next round fir the top X in the standings.

    • @GM-ie2zl
      @GM-ie2zl Рік тому

      ​​​​@@tyst5927they took the square root of the number of rounds played divided by the number of holes played multiplied by the number of hole in ones and then divided by number of players and they got 6. Seems fair no?