Sorry about the audio issues in the second half. I tried a new way to automate levels between the voiceover and background music and it worked great originally, but while I was struggling with copyright issues across 30+ exports it malfunctioned. This was my 19th attempt and it got cleared, so I had to go with it. I try really hard with my audio and won't let this happen again!
Something I found is the film actually carefully deconstructs classism. The dead are the working class, while even the real working class is divided into sections. The whole premise is that the previous generation of wealth actually has squandered it all, and it is only by marrying into the elite working class that they have any chance of maintaining their status quo. Meanwhile the wealthiest of merchants dream of high society, which had previously been barred to them by their poorer bloodline. It’s only now, with the matrimony of both the old and new elite that either can achieve their goals. Then there’s the dead, the common denominator of us all. The most carefree of the lot because they actually don’t ascribe to ‘working to survive,’ because that’s already been taken from them. Still they cling to their old professions, but these hardly matter when one isn’t relying on the coffers of the bourgeoisie to survive. The great thing about this thematic reading is that in the end the ‘working class’ uprise to meet the living on equal ground, to reconnect to lost loved ones and remind the obnoxious priest, “keep it down, we’re in a church.” What’s more is if you look at how Victor experience with the dead reshapes his attitude towards class hegemony, and how it (prospectively) shapes his perception of those less wealthy than him. For instance, he only speaks to his driver after he’s dead and joins him in the underworld. Then there’s Emily’s dress, the perfect representation of a defunct system that lead to her murder. It has aspects and the form that reminisce her class, but her death shows through, often at the expense of function. Though I may be grabbing at strings at this point. Anyhow I do not agree that there is no deeper meaning to the movie. It’s just to find it that you have to unearth it, the same way one would a forgotten corpse bride with a single hand above ground to signal what’s below.
This was one of my first childhood favorite movies and I know this is a really sad and depressing take on the movie's message but as a 7 yr/old I understood the message as "sometimes the people you care about dont belong to you so you have to let them go no matter how much you love them and no matter how much it hurts." I watched this again after many yrs this Oct with some friends (I was 18 at that time) and I still kinda stand by my 7 yr/old self's belief tho I understand now that Emily's journey was about self fulfillment and realizing that peace is sometime you allow yourself. I still love this movie, it brings up so many nice and cozy memories from my first yr here in Canada and experiencing autumn weather and changing of the leaves and Halloween movies and fun costumes and everything. And I genuinely dont think people appreciate this film enough and wish more people knew about it. Sidenote: "belong" as an a sense of belonging/fitting in and homecoming. So like "your someone else's home," so by holding onto someone who isnt yours your actively keeping someone away from their home and experiencing love and comfort. I donno 7 yr/old me was weird.
I agree that this is a great movie! I've watched this more frequently than Nightmare. I love the character development for both leading women, and that Emily really came into her own, ON her own.
this is one of those films that i love so much but can no longer watch. last time i watched it i was 17 and ugly cried. when i was younger and watched the movie i didnt understand why emily passed, but when i rewatched it as a teen it finally hit me and i lost it.
My only wish is for someone with a musical background to make a video analyzing the piano duet scene... I can hear _things_ in it, but can't put them into words without expertise.
So backstory. About another movie I think youd enjoy. I'm 9 years old and my grandpa passed away about a year ago. Because I'm 9, it's just really starting to hit because of all the little things we'd use to do around the holidays namely Halloween and Thanksgiving. So I'm by myself and watching some TV at home, when this movie pops up called "When Good Ghouls Go Bad". And needless to say it was a very cathartic experience. It's based on a short story by R. L. Stien and it stars Christopher Lloyd. Years later I rediscovered it and tbh its a bit more goofy then I remembered. But the core message and symbolism is still there.
About the soul comment: I would say she along with the rest of the dead still have souls There's a theory where the Underwood is actually purgatory which, honestly, It makes the ending muuch more beautiful then ever and it makes SO MUCH SENSE She promised herself that she will get married, and she waited for Years Thats what sealed her fate in purgatory. unfinished business with both her desire or love/married and unfinished business with the blackwidow lord barkus
OH MY GOD I WAS REALLY FOLDING MY LAUNDRY WHEN U SAID TO STOP FOLDING YOUR LAUNDRY i’m going to scream i am so sorry it’s been on my floor for too long
This is probably my favorite video from you yet, cause by now it seems like you've figured just about everything out from a professional standpoint. And it was a dang well-made and interesting review in general.
Usually when I watch these types of videos I have 0 interest in watching the actual movie but I'm still curious enough to know what its all about. Like half way through this video though I realize this is a movie I really want to watch. Not sure of I screwed myself over or if its still going to be awesome enough to enjoy knowing what happens.
Read the pin/description - had it mixed right originally but my software malfunctioned while I was doing like 30 exports for copyright. I try really hard with my audio and this won't happen again.
I went to see this movie when it came out I was 14 with my cousin and Aunt I love the movie from start to finish and it was good we also wanted to see cry wolf that horror movie that came out the same day but I wasn't impressed with that one at all it was like a rip off of scream or something.
So just to iterate, The Nightmare Before Christmas is not a Tim Burton movie. He only wrote and produced the film. Henry Selick (Coraline, James and The Giant Peach) directed The Nightmare Before Christmas. I mean just because Burton's name is in the title, doesn't make it his movie. Of course, he was originally gonna direct Nightmare but due to a lot of scheduling conflicts with directing Batman Returns, he didn't have time so he chose Selick who was a good friend of Burton when they were at CalArts to direct it instead.
Sorry about the audio issues in the second half. I tried a new way to automate levels between the voiceover and background music and it worked great originally, but while I was struggling with copyright issues across 30+ exports it malfunctioned. This was my 19th attempt and it got cleared, so I had to go with it. I try really hard with my audio and won't let this happen again!
Something I found is the film actually carefully deconstructs classism. The dead are the working class, while even the real working class is divided into sections. The whole premise is that the previous generation of wealth actually has squandered it all, and it is only by marrying into the elite working class that they have any chance of maintaining their status quo. Meanwhile the wealthiest of merchants dream of high society, which had previously been barred to them by their poorer bloodline. It’s only now, with the matrimony of both the old and new elite that either can achieve their goals.
Then there’s the dead, the common denominator of us all. The most carefree of the lot because they actually don’t ascribe to ‘working to survive,’ because that’s already been taken from them. Still they cling to their old professions, but these hardly matter when one isn’t relying on the coffers of the bourgeoisie to survive.
The great thing about this thematic reading is that in the end the ‘working class’ uprise to meet the living on equal ground, to reconnect to lost loved ones and remind the obnoxious priest, “keep it down, we’re in a church.”
What’s more is if you look at how Victor experience with the dead reshapes his attitude towards class hegemony, and how it (prospectively) shapes his perception of those less wealthy than him. For instance, he only speaks to his driver after he’s dead and joins him in the underworld.
Then there’s Emily’s dress, the perfect representation of a defunct system that lead to her murder. It has aspects and the form that reminisce her class, but her death shows through, often at the expense of function. Though I may be grabbing at strings at this point.
Anyhow I do not agree that there is no deeper meaning to the movie. It’s just to find it that you have to unearth it, the same way one would a forgotten corpse bride with a single hand above ground to signal what’s below.
@@matureenough34 That's a really interesting read of this movie! Thank you for sharing
@@offbeatkiki glad you like it🙂
The best way i can describe this movie is “A beautiful tragedy”
This was one of my first childhood favorite movies and I know this is a really sad and depressing take on the movie's message but as a 7 yr/old I understood the message as "sometimes the people you care about dont belong to you so you have to let them go no matter how much you love them and no matter how much it hurts." I watched this again after many yrs this Oct with some friends (I was 18 at that time) and I still kinda stand by my 7 yr/old self's belief tho I understand now that Emily's journey was about self fulfillment and realizing that peace is sometime you allow yourself. I still love this movie, it brings up so many nice and cozy memories from my first yr here in Canada and experiencing autumn weather and changing of the leaves and Halloween movies and fun costumes and everything. And I genuinely dont think people appreciate this film enough and wish more people knew about it.
Sidenote: "belong" as an a sense of belonging/fitting in and homecoming. So like "your someone else's home," so by holding onto someone who isnt yours your actively keeping someone away from their home and experiencing love and comfort. I donno 7 yr/old me was weird.
you were a very insightful kid!
I agree that this is a great movie! I've watched this more frequently than Nightmare. I love the character development for both leading women, and that Emily really came into her own, ON her own.
this is one of those films that i love so much but can no longer watch. last time i watched it i was 17 and ugly cried. when i was younger and watched the movie i didnt understand why emily passed, but when i rewatched it as a teen it finally hit me and i lost it.
that man deserves jail but they gave him something even more fitting 🤠
My only wish is for someone with a musical background to make a video analyzing the piano duet scene... I can hear _things_ in it, but can't put them into words without expertise.
For real, this movie still sticks to me, doesn't even matter what day it is, this is always worth a watch
So backstory. About another movie I think youd enjoy.
I'm 9 years old and my grandpa passed away about a year ago. Because I'm 9, it's just really starting to hit because of all the little things we'd use to do around the holidays namely Halloween and Thanksgiving.
So I'm by myself and watching some TV at home, when this movie pops up called "When Good Ghouls Go Bad". And needless to say it was a very cathartic experience. It's based on a short story by R. L. Stien and it stars Christopher Lloyd.
Years later I rediscovered it and tbh its a bit more goofy then I remembered. But the core message and symbolism is still there.
i don’t know what is it about Corpse bride and Nightmare before Christmas that make me feel warm and fuzzy deep inside!!!!!
This is one of my favorite movie's of Burtons and one of my favorite non-Disney animated films.
I haven't seen this movie in so long! Great video, I appreciate how in depth with your thoughts you are towards the different facets of the film!
Thanks Jordan! It was a real throwback for me too.
I showed my mom the vows in this for my wedding. I'm doing them. Minus the props.
I remember seeing this in Theaters
When I was 11 years old
This movie is was a favorite of mine to rent when going on road trips
That's awesome! I miss watching movies in the backseat with a big blanket and a portable dvd player. Those were the days. Now I just drive lol
@@offbeatkiki right? I love driving but I miss not having yo pay attention to everything all the time on the road
About the soul comment: I would say she along with the rest of the dead still have souls
There's a theory where the Underwood is actually purgatory which, honestly, It makes the ending muuch more beautiful then ever and it makes SO MUCH SENSE
She promised herself that she will get married, and she waited for Years
Thats what sealed her fate in purgatory. unfinished business with both her desire or love/married and unfinished business with the blackwidow lord barkus
OH MY GOD I WAS REALLY FOLDING MY LAUNDRY WHEN U SAID TO STOP FOLDING YOUR LAUNDRY i’m going to scream i am so sorry it’s been on my floor for too long
🤣 that's hysterical. get those chores done i feel ya it's always easier when you can listen to videos while you do it
I just saw that movie yesterday! So this is perfect timing
You know what's up!!
had a stellar cast of Richard E. Grant and Christopher Lee
Was shocked to hear Saruman in this movie! Haha
This is probably my favorite video from you yet, cause by now it seems like you've figured just about everything out from a professional standpoint. And it was a dang well-made and interesting review in general.
Not me being called out for folding my laundry
This was recommended to me from Johnny 2Cellos. Corpse Bride is a favorite of mine, and your commentary is charming.
New sub here!
soundtrack slaps 12/13
agree i love it so much!
2 things 1) I thought/hope you was playing the Sonic Heroes haunted Mansion theme and 2) she would be better off with Beetlejuice as her husband
Usually when I watch these types of videos I have 0 interest in watching the actual movie but I'm still curious enough to know what its all about. Like half way through this video though I realize this is a movie I really want to watch. Not sure of I screwed myself over or if its still going to be awesome enough to enjoy knowing what happens.
I hope you do watch it! I left enough out for it to still be enjoyable, especially all of the musical numbers. It's a great film.
Johnny2cellos got me here and I need MORE I love this video!
Great video! My only note is in some places the audio balance was off
Read the pin/description - had it mixed right originally but my software malfunctioned while I was doing like 30 exports for copyright. I try really hard with my audio and this won't happen again.
i used to watch this movie all the time on dvd
Scraps looks like an undead version of my dachshound
I went to see this movie when it came out I was 14 with my cousin and Aunt I love the movie from start to finish and it was good we also wanted to see cry wolf that horror movie that came out the same day but I wasn't impressed with that one at all it was like a rip off of scream or something.
what's wrong with listening as a podcast LOL
I felt so called out when you asked if I were watching, which I was btw
Can you cover Romper Stomper
That wasn’t meant to be a negative comment btw I’ve just seen it so much that I had to point it out
Nightmare before Christmas was Henry Selick (I know, I thought it was Burton for YEARS)
My theory is with Victoria is that she was adopted because I don’t think her parents ever did it and she didn’t look nor act like them
Does anyone have similar halloween/autumn movie recommendations? I really enjoyed Corpse Bride when I watched it last year!
Over the Garden Wall is a must for the autumn.....
So just to iterate, The Nightmare Before Christmas is not a Tim Burton movie. He only wrote and produced the film. Henry Selick (Coraline, James and The Giant Peach) directed The Nightmare Before Christmas. I mean just because Burton's name is in the title, doesn't make it his movie. Of course, he was originally gonna direct Nightmare but due to a lot of scheduling conflicts with directing Batman Returns, he didn't have time so he chose Selick who was a good friend of Burton when they were at CalArts to direct it instead.
Johnny Depp was so good in this film: it’s a shame that his career has taken a blow because of Amber Heard
I hope he gets justice and she gets fired.
I will always remain a Johnny Depp fan! Dudes a Legend!
Every where I fucking go there is this court case
@@hauntmanager3647 I originally made this comment back before the trial
Add this video to the playlist of videos that use “The [adjective] [noun] of [children’s media]” title format
Yeah that's the game we gotta play to get views sadly
Amazing video 👌🔥
Glad you liked it!
hi, how can I find the dead bride cartoon in full format
Please let me know if you know
Have you ever done a video on coraline if not please do 😁
Imagine the disgusting smell in the corpse world
Otters are cute so they mad
Cheers
Nice use of sonic heroes music
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Im here early
Only 120 views
thanks for watching!
Coralline’s better😊
This was recommended to me from Johnny 2Cellos. Corpse Bride is a favorite of mine, and your commentary is charming.
New sub here!
I just found out he shared it because of this comment omg. But thank you so much for watching and subbing, I'm glad you enjoyed it!!