Interesting video, thank you. I'm in the UK and had my tree surgeon fell one these which outgrew my garden. They had to climb it and do it in sections. I got so interested in the process that I did some casual work for him running the chipper and so forth. But that tree didn't want to die. It was about 50 feet high and every spring after it was felled it was suckering 50-60 feet away, which shows how far the roots went!
Trees like these are why there are paid professionals. Attempting a leaner is one thing, the wind blowing adds a whole different dynamic. Great job as always.
I don't know, I've cut and seen a lot of trees cut down, never once have I ever seen anyone rely on hoping or "needing" a tree to divide apart while it's falling. 1:00 That sounds pretty nutz to me, but hey, I guess you gotta be a little to be doing it right? Glad no one was hurt or killed!
I used to work for a tree company I used a skid loader to pull trees in the desired direction, usually just back pressure. Sometimes i would pull it down like that. However the most impressive tree taken down was a locust about the same size with a two long buildings about 10 away on two sides. We wrapped ropes around the branches and trunk, the 8 to 12 foot sections would spin around stop un hook from a trimmed limb and drop to the ground. That was a fun job. I drove the truck and skid loader with a log grapple. I also ran a band saw mill when not falling trees.
I remember years ago I ask you August I was following a bunch of locust trees and the notch I was using conventional was not working you told me to use an open face I went back the next day and it worked great
great felling job, need more chipping footage, the chipper amazes me with the efficiency of disposing with the tree. we had some trees removed in our backyard, it was interesting to see the arborist in action using the techniques and equipment you use. I have a new appreciation of your videos.
The notch scared me, the lean scared me, the winch scared me, I found the whole thing gave me the willies. You pulled it off so that's why I'm not in the tree business.
I'm no fan of pulling but sometimes you got to and that was the worst lean I think I've seen but you did it flawlessly. Made it look easy, I wonder if the customer realizes how few crews could have actually done that one successfully?
It feels a lot bigger, when you are on a ladder, dropping a top straight down, and didn't account for a twist, and 4-500 lbs of falling limb, hits your left hand. No fractures, but instant balloon. I usually don't have that problem. But, this one tagged me.
Good job. I'm not a professional (never exactly my profession), but I grew up on a farm and we did a good bit of cutting. When I was a teenager I worked at a resort that had a campground (people bought lots and planted their campers or had RV's there some put on block foundations). They started the campground after I started working there so I was doing everything (septic tanks, leveling, hook ups,,,). One major problem was that it was all cut into an old forest so most of the trees had nearly no branches low, everything was top heavy. Since gravel roads were cut through the middle it gave wind paths through the once protected trees. Tops breaking was a common problem. They would always stick me with the nasty jobs because I was the youngest and so if something went wrong, I could easily be scapegoated. In ways I didn't mind. I enjoyed the challenge. ,,,,,,,,,, The worst one: Half the top of one tree split during a storm and the end of it was snagged in another tree and directly above a camper, quite high. I didn't have a winch and was alone to deal with it (no one else had the balls to hang around to see what would happen). I did have an old 350 bulldozer. I climbed the tree and put a cable as high as I could. I had also brought a long rope that I was able to wrap around the split part (not especially well but certainly enough to influence things, that part was not detached from the other part and still had a pretty good connection). That old bulldozer had a really slow creeper gear. I did my initial cut, got the cable near tight with the bulldozer heading straight up the gravel lane and let the bulldozer go on its own in creeper, ran back did the final cut in a timely manner and managed to run out of the way before everything came crashing down. No damage to anything. Rock and Roll.
It's funny to see how many commenters don't realize that after you got the tree tied up and had a little support on it that there was absolutely no chance it was going to fall away and so you had plenty of leeway to make a wide hinge that was going to make it go exactly where you wanted it. Good job man. You're a steely-eyed expert tree feller.
The idea of moving the tipping point back with a large face cut like that never occurred to me. It is an obvious advantage pulling a back leaner like that. Thanks
This is the type of tree that can fall four different ways, all at the same time! We have lots of Locust and Bradford pears here in Tennessee and they both can be very unpredictable. Great job!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHGGGGGGGGG, did you say BRADFORD!! The thought of that drives me BATTY! Why anyone would want one of those terrors in their yard is beyond me!
@@dukeflem They are the WORST!! BTW I was not poking at your spelling, I was invoking disgust for such a loathsome tree......LOL. I chortle with delight at the prospect of killing those devil trees
@@bbigrocker1 No problem, i just noticed that I mispelled it.There is a video on youtube of a man felling a medium size one in his front yard and it fell on his house in two places, his car out in the street, his lawnmower he was using to pull it with and part of it remained standing. I personally had one rigged with three ropes and come-a-longs to pull it away from the house and pool and it broke off and almost hit the house and me. I've been felling trees since 1975 and never had a tree go the wrong way except for that one and it was three years ago. I hate them.
For some reason Black Locust seems to be relatively dry in moisture compared to other trees when green. A good bending wood though with straight grain, boat builders will use it for ribs sometimes. Makes good fence posts as well, doesn't rot easily.
@@victoriousvictor7978A Glorious Good Morning to you! 😀 Hmm,🤔are you referring to me being in Edmonton? 🤣 Where are you at? Calgary, maybe? I'm so sorry to hear that in return. 😝 If I could and I had the money too, I'd be either in my car driving with my husband, or on our motorcycles riding all over Canada and the U.S. I hope you have an awesome day wherever you are! 🙏 - Kim
@@victoriousvictor7978I've been out there a few times on holidays! It's a dreamland for old growth trees, eh! 🌲🌲 🌲 Some of my relatives used to live at Sooke.
Always makes you feel good, when it drops within inches of where you said it would. I took a big maple tree down years ago, in postage stamp backyard. Cut from the top down. Last limb stuck on me, about time the wind shifted. The electric crew showed up (hours late) in time to watch my limb rotate 180°, right into the last pole on a primary. We stood there and watched it cook. No weight on their line, just shorting out between the primary and the ground stay. One guy was going crazy. I told 'em to pull the dropout, and I'd get it off. Just needed to kick the butt loose from the tree. They did, came back to watch. I kicked it loose, which wiggled their wire, I climbed down and stood the limb straight up, off of the line. The one guy looked over and said, "Well I guess you do know what you're doing." If it hadn't been for that wind shift, everything would have been perfect. Mother Nature can make you, or make you look like an idiot. Not a pro, just being a good friend.
Beautiful job guy's! fortunately, I've only ever had to deal with a situation like that once in a 20 year career and the way you did it was the only way I could figure out how to do it.Having that deep seat cut like that made me nervous as hell but we managed to get it down without any problems so congrats on a successful drop! Love your work,be safe!
Such a professional job - so much expertise and skill in that short video. Thanks for sharing, it's very educational for an amateur like me felling trees on a small acreage. Stuff like this I wouldn't attempt but good to know the technique. A small typo correction in the description: "Make sure you're pulling power is substantial." --> "Make sure your pulling power is substantial."
Im cutting up a few large limbs that a black locust recently dropped. They become garbage trees when they grow too tall. If they are 25 ft cut them down. Great wood for fence post, boat dock posts, or boards for furniture. Harvest before they get tall.
I would think the hinge wood should be in the most solid and wide part of the tree, your hinge wood was on the edge of the rot or margin so if you had some side force you could crack the hinge wood and have a sideways fall. Something to be concerned about if you have a less powerful winch (thinner hinge) or high side wind. Nice work, I know what you mean about tipping point and will keep that in mind also. Thanks and good job grabbing that far segment. White Birch are segmented like that and I run into alot of white birch, but sounds like you where explaining a tree characteristic a bit more complex. Thanks for sharing. Nice work..
A note to you guys: don't do this with a diseased ash tree. as he infers, it'll shear into pieces. You'll need rig several lines up and down the trunk....and were it me, I'd take off as much of the tree limbs as I could first.
I just cut down a diseased ash tree . The wind took the other one down at the trunk right on top of the shed and smack in the middle of my quad must be over 120ft over 2ft diameter. Dead trees are scary shit.
I’m curious, I feel like this would be limited to time of year and tree species/overall health. Up north with a bit of cold I would worry about snapping the hinge too early, or having an excessive amount of unknown water weight up high in that tree where it could potentially pull the truck with it. In my head that tree outweighs the truck. This is done so well, great job!
how do you do the maths on this pull.16500 lb winch yes, but the truck weighs what? pulling upwards on the truck front removes weight n parked traction off the front of the truck. have you ever bit off too much and the truck started sliding? ive seen tracked skidloader used as a puller n it started sliding n losing traction, my ass was puckering for him…..
id have had to anchor the truck to either another solid object , another tree maybe or another truck just to be belt n braces sure. Once, and only once, a long time ago I nearly caught myself out pulling a leaner with a Maasdam on a single line and it started slipping, i quickly put a second one in as high as i could get it, to help out but ive never forgotten it….the pucker factor was up there that day….solid object pulls and oversize gear was the preferred method every time thereafter.
@@turtlezedThe truck is a 5 ton+ dead weight anchor. It probably weighs more than the tree. I know locust is heavy, but it can't be THAT heavy. The winch can pull way more than that. The tie in is near the top of the solid trunk, acting as a big long lever, way higher than the center of gravity of the tree, in the best position to counter the back lean, and easily overcoming it. While the truck/winch combo can only exert force roughly equal to gravity on the mass of that unit, that's far far more than what is needed here. In your situation with track loader, keep in mind that the most force that the machine can apply is equal to the force of the moving traction. In slippery ground, that's far far less than the mass of the machine, even if it's a 6 ton 95hp big boy. And of course it can't apply every pound of that force, or the machine stops moving. And usually, from what I see, the tie in points are never as high as they could be (and usually that's just fine, to be fair).
I never would have tried that without first taking a tin of the back weight. But I lack August's experience. Maybe someday. That was mighty impressive.
Climbers will climb :). I would have shot a line into it set up left of where he had the winch with my tractor and skidding winch on the tractor and notched it to the left side. Working primarily by myself You have to figure things out and improvise on others techniques. If there was no room to the left I would have cut the notch to the middle(not quite as deep as he did), then used a step cut(see Daniel Murphy's channel), then pulled it straight at the tractor. Using this technique you still want to be sure to pull 180 against the lean or it could break off to the side. Of course all this is based off seeing the trees/tree in a video as inclusion would be a large portion of the decision. Have a great week.
i had a guy do a 30" white oak that was leaning hard over my place with a dead top. i had already resigned myself to roof repairs. but he used two hand winches in a V shape and cut a big notch and cranked that SOB vertical and dropped it perfectly. it just about jumped off the stump. i was amazed that a tree that size would be hand winched that much.
Just yesterday dropped a cedar type of tree, about a 75-footer that was 3 trunks all leaning in different directions from the center. The main trunk about 24-inch dia was leaning by about 10 to 12 degrees right towards my brother's house. Another trunk 14" was leaning to the back of the property and that's where we wanted the tree to fall. The other trunk 14" was leaning to the side towards a smaller maple that also will eventually be dropped. So, we dropped the side leaning trunk first, no problems. Then we secured a line of 1" nylon cord, basically anchor rode to the tree about halfway up and ran it towards back of property around a tree about 100' away as a pivot point then back to the driveway. This is a long property but narrow, maybe 50' wide in town with houses on both sides. Used my JD2025R to anchor the chord and pull on it after doing a good 1/3 in face cut. Couldn't go any deeper as there was a narrow steel plate grown into the tree from years ago. Did the back cut and wasn't getting much movement by tugging with tractor even in 4-wheel drive. My concern was that my 2500 lb JD wouldn't be enough to compensate for the lean angle and the tree might go the wrong way towards the house. So, we chained my Dodge Ram CV van to the front of the tractor for a combination tug. Using both vehicles we pulled forward enough to get the main trunk to be straight up and no lean. That was encouraging as I now was confident that we had enough tug capability to pull this one over. Did one more swipe on the back cut and felt the tractor nudge forward a few inches from that so I waved my brother over to get in my van and we both pulled....AND OVER IT WENT. Felled it exactly where we wanted it to go. What a relief. Also, a little bonus. There was one of those thorny bushed that you can't get near without getting all scratched up in the anticipated line of fire. My brother said if it falls on that bush that's ok cause he wanted to pull it out anyway. The tree went smack down on the bush center and pretty much crushed it completely. Not a bad ending for what turned out to be a good day! (I have video I will post on YT at our TBK channel) Thanks for the video, guys. Really like seeing pros who know enough to use a cable as that was def a real leaner. Also, you really avoid being in range should the tree kick back in what can sometimes be a 'deadly' unexpected result of felling trees! Nice job!
No matter how many times I pull a hard leaner it scares me as equal to the first ever. I wish I cold change that. Maybe it's because I only have 6 years experience
Good job. It worked. I quit pulling them that way. I hook them that way and then cut them sideways to swing them. I think it takes a lot less power to swing a tree than to pull it over backwards. Maybe I am wrong.
An ex brother in law's father had a tree limb hit him in the head. He ended up deaf,blind, and couldn't walk nor talk. Lived for another 20 years but it was no fun. This shit ain't no joke.
I was thinking that that mulch would do great in my back yard to support the trees that are growing along the creek where the neighbors have been dumping their grass clippings.
I worked for asplundh after I got out of the army years back. We sold lots of wood on the side instead of running it through the chipper. We didn’t waste much wood. We had a guy that wanted any cedar we felled. We had another that took any mesquite we ran across. Another that wanted pecan, and so on. It was a nice side gig.
Exactly, and easy BTU's if they were in a wood as they will be nice and tall with very few branches. BL is my primary heat source, the woodshed is already filled for the next two seasons with 80-90% BL. Hated seeing it go into the chipper, but time is money. Where you located at, I'm near Grand Rapids MI.
@@KeoghDanielAU That's funny "mop tops", they are like weeds, cut them and they pop right back up or propagate off the roots. With the many species you have there I would think BL would be a waste of time, the density doesn't compare to the eucs even. That being said it's very easy to harvest and process, unfortunately it "crackles" and pops a lot so it's not the best in a fireplace and it doesn't smell the best when burning. For me it's one of my favorites, but we don't have the sense trees you have.
@@KeoghDanielAU Good burning wood, hard on chains and like my old mountain boy neighbor used to say when I was burning it, " smells like somebody pissing on a camp fire ". Rest in peace, Howard.
It's best to let the professionals take care of a job like this. That way you know your not going to destroy the house, vehicle yourself or the neighbors!!! One false move on a tree of this size and someone will go to see Jesus!!! Much respect to you professional tree trimmers. Y'all do something that could be fatal real quick!!!💯❤️💪
I had a 20 inch maple leaning out of woods over yard and house at a 50 - 60 degree. One day we had a 65 mph wind blowing the right direction. Told wife i know what I doing today. Cut that tree wind blew it around 90° and laid it down right along woodline
Great job. There is a big difference in a cut out in a field and one near a house. This is definately a job for a professional. Nobody needs their house damaged.
A couple of questions: 1. Wasn't there a lot of pressure on the saw when making the back cut? Normally you cut the compression side first to prevent it being pinched. 2. Was there a danger that the tree's weight might be enough to let it start falling and pull the truck behind it? The cable and winch might be rated for 8 tons, but how heavy is the truck?
Hopefully the truck was anchored to something. There is no point having a winch with more pulling power than the weight of the truck if you don't anchor it.
I feel inspired. I'm now going to mow the lawn!
That honestly made me chuckle, thanks! :D
I'll trim bushes. This one almost made me think I have a brain for felling. I have to remind myself, I don't have a clue.
Need to borrow my winch for the lawn??
Whoa, whoa, whoa!! Stop and think before you do anything rash!
WHOOOA metal, take it easy, have a think about it ...
Interesting video, thank you. I'm in the UK and had my tree surgeon fell one these which outgrew my garden. They had to climb it and do it in sections. I got so interested in the process that I did some casual work for him running the chipper and so forth. But that tree didn't want to die. It was about 50 feet high and every spring after it was felled it was suckering 50-60 feet away, which shows how far the roots went!
Trees like these are why there are paid professionals. Attempting a leaner is one thing, the wind blowing adds a whole different dynamic. Great job as always.
Right, anything leaning towards a house, especially like that one its a job for the pros
....add to that the complicating factor of a multi-part tree trunk that adds a lot of unpredictability.....
Agreed, but some folks just don't get it.........what they DO get is a tree on their house................
Logging and Crane Rigger here:
The biggest joy of gravity is, you don't know you effed up until it's TOO LATE!
Do the math, or pay the insurance.
I don't know, I've cut and seen a lot of trees cut down, never once have I ever seen anyone rely on hoping or "needing" a tree to divide apart while it's falling. 1:00 That sounds pretty nutz to me, but hey, I guess you gotta be a little to be doing it right? Glad no one was hurt or killed!
A pleasure to watch a true professional at work!
I used to work for a tree company I used a skid loader to pull trees in the desired direction, usually just back pressure. Sometimes i would pull it down like that. However the most impressive tree taken down was a locust about the same size with a two long buildings about 10 away on two sides. We wrapped ropes around the branches and trunk, the 8 to 12 foot sections would spin around stop un hook from a trimmed limb and drop to the ground. That was a fun job. I drove the truck and skid loader with a log grapple. I also ran a band saw mill when not falling trees.
Unbelievable. I would have bet my life's savings that this was impossible. Well done!
Never get enough of watching challenging jobs going well!
I remember years ago I ask you August I was following a bunch of locust trees and the notch I was using conventional was not working you told me to use an open face I went back the next day and it worked great
great felling job, need more chipping footage, the chipper amazes me with the efficiency of disposing with the tree. we had some trees removed in our backyard, it was interesting to see the arborist in action using the techniques and equipment you use. I have a new appreciation of your videos.
Brilliant. Definitely a job for professionals with the proper gear.
The notch scared me, the lean scared me, the winch scared me, I found the whole thing gave me the willies. You pulled it off so that's why I'm not in the tree business.
My name is wille, so what did it do? Make you look BETTER ? 🎉😂
Respect for you and everything you do.
This is one soft-spoken badass.
I'm no fan of pulling but sometimes you got to and that was the worst lean I think I've seen but you did it flawlessly. Made it look easy, I wonder if the customer realizes how few crews could have actually done that one successfully?
I helped a friend in the business with a tree like this. Gives you a new respect for you guys.
If you ever feel anxious about dropping a limb or a tree, just remember these wise words "it looks a lot bigger when it's on the ground"
Truest statement ever made.
It feels a lot bigger, when you are on a ladder, dropping a top straight down, and didn't account for a twist, and 4-500 lbs of falling limb, hits your left hand. No fractures, but instant balloon. I usually don't have that problem. But, this one tagged me.
What every single client says when you start dropping logs 😂
What every single client says when you start dropping logs 😂
Good job. I'm not a professional (never exactly my profession), but I grew up on a farm and we did a good bit of cutting. When I was a teenager I worked at a resort that had a campground (people bought lots and planted their campers or had RV's there some put on block foundations). They started the campground after I started working there so I was doing everything (septic tanks, leveling, hook ups,,,). One major problem was that it was all cut into an old forest so most of the trees had nearly no branches low, everything was top heavy. Since gravel roads were cut through the middle it gave wind paths through the once protected trees. Tops breaking was a common problem. They would always stick me with the nasty jobs because I was the youngest and so if something went wrong, I could easily be scapegoated. In ways I didn't mind. I enjoyed the challenge. ,,,,,,,,,, The worst one: Half the top of one tree split during a storm and the end of it was snagged in another tree and directly above a camper, quite high. I didn't have a winch and was alone to deal with it (no one else had the balls to hang around to see what would happen). I did have an old 350 bulldozer. I climbed the tree and put a cable as high as I could. I had also brought a long rope that I was able to wrap around the split part (not especially well but certainly enough to influence things, that part was not detached from the other part and still had a pretty good connection). That old bulldozer had a really slow creeper gear. I did my initial cut, got the cable near tight with the bulldozer heading straight up the gravel lane and let the bulldozer go on its own in creeper, ran back did the final cut in a timely manner and managed to run out of the way before everything came crashing down. No damage to anything. Rock and Roll.
It's funny to see how many commenters don't realize that after you got the tree tied up and had a little support on it that there was absolutely no chance it was going to fall away and so you had plenty of leeway to make a wide hinge that was going to make it go exactly where you wanted it. Good job man. You're a steely-eyed expert tree feller.
Ya, one either has command or he doesn’t. If he does then it’s just part of the formula, if he doesn’t then he needs to do something else.
Nice job. You do know what you're doing. 👍
The idea of moving the tipping point back with a large face cut like that never occurred to me. It is an obvious advantage pulling a back leaner like that. Thanks
This is the type of tree that can fall four different ways, all at the same time! We have lots of Locust and Bradford pears here in Tennessee and they both can be very unpredictable. Great job!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHGGGGGGGGG, did you say BRADFORD!! The thought of that drives me BATTY! Why anyone would want one of those terrors in their yard is beyond me!
@@bbigrocker1 Yes , I mispelled Bradford. It is the WORST! Because it can break off inside the "main" trunk and go almost anywhere its hard to manage.
@@dukeflem They are the WORST!! BTW I was not poking at your spelling, I was invoking disgust for such a loathsome tree......LOL. I chortle with delight at the prospect of killing those devil trees
@@bbigrocker1 No problem, i just noticed that I mispelled it.There is a video on youtube of a man felling a medium size one in his front yard and it fell on his house in two places, his car out in the street, his lawnmower he was using to pull it with and part of it remained standing. I personally had one rigged with three ropes and come-a-longs to pull it away from the house and pool and it broke off and almost hit the house and me. I've been felling trees since 1975 and never had a tree go the wrong way except for that one and it was three years ago. I hate them.
Great work! Kinda sad to see it go into the chipper. Some great firewood but I understand y’all deal with a lot more wood than I do haha. Much love!
From a layman's perspective that looked about perfect.
For some reason Black Locust seems to be relatively dry in moisture compared to other trees when green. A good bending wood though with straight grain, boat builders will use it for ribs sometimes. Makes good fence posts as well, doesn't rot easily.
Shame it got all Chipped up there was some nice long bows in that wood! !
Or forever fence posts, EXELLENT firewood
Excellent work Damien, August and Adam! 👍️ Hi folks from Edmonton!🖐️ - Kim
Sorry to hear that 😝
@@victoriousvictor7978A Glorious Good Morning to you! 😀 Hmm,🤔are you referring to me being in Edmonton? 🤣 Where are you at? Calgary, maybe? I'm so sorry to hear that in return. 😝 If I could and I had the money too, I'd be either in my car driving with my husband, or on our motorcycles riding all over Canada and the U.S. I hope you have an awesome day wherever you are! 🙏 - Kim
@@theFunzyBear vancover island!
@@victoriousvictor7978I've been out there a few times on holidays! It's a dreamland for old growth trees, eh! 🌲🌲 🌲 Some of my relatives used to live at Sooke.
A lovely satisfying watch. Thank you.
Great knowledge and skill
That thing looks like it's gonna fall before his story is over!
Always makes you feel good, when it drops within inches of where you said it would.
I took a big maple tree down years ago, in postage stamp backyard. Cut from the top down. Last limb stuck on me, about time the wind shifted. The electric crew showed up (hours late) in time to watch my limb rotate 180°, right into the last pole on a primary. We stood there and watched it cook. No weight on their line, just shorting out between the primary and the ground stay. One guy was going crazy. I told 'em to pull the dropout, and I'd get it off. Just needed to kick the butt loose from the tree. They did, came back to watch. I kicked it loose, which wiggled their wire, I climbed down and stood the limb straight up, off of the line. The one guy looked over and said, "Well I guess you do know what you're doing." If it hadn't been for that wind shift, everything would have been perfect. Mother Nature can make you, or make you look like an idiot. Not a pro, just being a good friend.
Beautiful job guy's! fortunately, I've only ever had to deal with a situation like that once in a 20 year career and the way you did it was the only way I could figure out how to do it.Having that deep seat cut like that made me nervous as hell but we managed to get it down without any problems so congrats on a successful drop! Love your work,be safe!
Such a professional job - so much expertise and skill in that short video. Thanks for sharing, it's very educational for an amateur like me felling trees on a small acreage. Stuff like this I wouldn't attempt but good to know the technique. A small typo correction in the description: "Make sure you're pulling power is substantial." --> "Make sure your pulling power is substantial."
Thanks
The humbold notch works well. You can get a better bend in the hinge wood. But these things only work well with all of that supplemental support
Tree-n-a...love the shirt August, great video . Thanks for taking us along sir.🌳💚🌳💚
Excellent work, that one had my heart pumping.
6:02 - Ever have overheat problems? I put a metal screen on a frame and hinged it to make for quick removal of chipper dust from the radiator.
Seemed it was growing in five different pieces at least! 😲 It's definitely good to know your onions.
It's a black locust tree
Nice job ! 😁😁 u guys always make it look easy
Im cutting up a few large limbs that a black locust recently dropped. They become garbage trees when they grow too tall. If they are 25 ft cut them down. Great wood for fence post, boat dock posts, or boards for furniture. Harvest before they get tall.
I would think the hinge wood should be in the most solid and wide part of the tree, your hinge wood was on the edge of the rot or margin so if you had some side force you could crack the hinge wood and have a sideways fall. Something to be concerned about if you have a less powerful winch (thinner hinge) or high side wind.
Nice work, I know what you mean about tipping point and will keep that in mind also. Thanks and good job grabbing that far segment. White Birch are segmented like that and I run into alot of white birch, but sounds like you where explaining a tree characteristic a bit more complex. Thanks for sharing. Nice work..
A note to you guys: don't do this with a diseased ash tree. as he infers, it'll shear into pieces. You'll need rig several lines up and down the trunk....and were it me, I'd take off as much of the tree limbs as I could first.
I just cut down a diseased ash tree . The wind took the other one down at the trunk right on top of the shed and smack in the middle of my quad must be over 120ft over 2ft diameter. Dead trees are scary shit.
I was going to say the same thing about termite infested trees. Parts will just crumble, and bring heavy limbs down where you don't want them.
Your winch is only as good as the anchor it is attached to! Without a solid ground anchor on the vehicle anything can happen -- U of HardKnocks.
Yep gotta know your tools
Hooking the excavator to the back of the truck would certainly help but I don't doubt you know what you're doing.
I’m curious, I feel like this would be limited to time of year and tree species/overall health. Up north with a bit of cold I would worry about snapping the hinge too early, or having an excessive amount of unknown water weight up high in that tree where it could potentially pull the truck with it. In my head that tree outweighs the truck. This is done so well, great job!
Nah, it all has to do with proper compensation and power. . And cut, and not cut..
@@AugustHunicke and a lot of luck
how do you do the maths on this pull.16500 lb winch yes, but the truck weighs what? pulling upwards on the truck front removes weight n parked traction off the front of the truck. have you ever bit off too much and the truck started sliding? ive seen tracked skidloader used as a puller n it started sliding n losing traction, my ass was puckering for him…..
id have had to anchor the truck to either another solid object , another tree maybe or another truck just to be belt n braces sure. Once, and only once, a long time ago I nearly caught myself out pulling a leaner with a Maasdam on a single line and it started slipping, i quickly put a second one in as high as i could get it, to help out but ive never forgotten it….the pucker factor was up there that day….solid object pulls and oversize gear was the preferred method every time thereafter.
@@turtlezedThe truck is a 5 ton+ dead weight anchor. It probably weighs more than the tree. I know locust is heavy, but it can't be THAT heavy. The winch can pull way more than that. The tie in is near the top of the solid trunk, acting as a big long lever, way higher than the center of gravity of the tree, in the best position to counter the back lean, and easily overcoming it. While the truck/winch combo can only exert force roughly equal to gravity on the mass of that unit, that's far far more than what is needed here.
In your situation with track loader, keep in mind that the most force that the machine can apply is equal to the force of the moving traction. In slippery ground, that's far far less than the mass of the machine, even if it's a 6 ton 95hp big boy. And of course it can't apply every pound of that force, or the machine stops moving. And usually, from what I see, the tie in points are never as high as they could be (and usually that's just fine, to be fair).
World class skill ! Great job
I never would have tried that without first taking a tin of the back weight. But I lack August's experience. Maybe someday. That was mighty impressive.
Climbers will climb :).
I would have shot a line into it set up left of where he had the winch with my tractor and skidding winch on the tractor and notched it to the left side.
Working primarily by myself You have to figure things out and improvise on others techniques.
If there was no room to the left I would have cut the notch to the middle(not quite as deep as he did), then used a step cut(see Daniel Murphy's channel), then pulled it straight at the tractor. Using this technique you still want to be sure to pull 180 against the lean or it could break off to the side.
Of course all this is based off seeing the trees/tree in a video as inclusion would be a large portion of the decision.
Have a great week.
*I got same situation with house I just bought* be safe all n *don’t be complacent!*
Ever put the cable scale on a pull line to see what kind of tension it takes?
i had a guy do a 30" white oak that was leaning hard over my place with a dead top. i had already resigned myself to roof repairs. but he used two hand winches in a V shape and cut a big notch and cranked that SOB vertical and dropped it perfectly. it just about jumped off the stump. i was amazed that a tree that size would be hand winched that much.
I like that the tree wasnt round that did give more hinge wood. Good job.
good job... safe and strong, sad watching him go though, especially in the chipper and .. we need lots more trees
Great job. that had a heck of a lean. i love locust for firewood......
That looked fun. A ton of sections.
Great job
Stay safe
Just yesterday dropped a cedar type of tree, about a 75-footer that was 3 trunks all leaning in different directions from the center. The main trunk about 24-inch dia was leaning by about 10 to 12 degrees right towards my brother's house. Another trunk 14" was leaning to the back of the property and that's where we wanted the tree to fall. The other trunk 14" was leaning to the side towards a smaller maple that also will eventually be dropped.
So, we dropped the side leaning trunk first, no problems. Then we secured a line of 1" nylon cord, basically anchor rode to the tree about halfway up and ran it towards back of property around a tree about 100' away as a pivot point then back to the driveway. This is a long property but narrow, maybe 50' wide in town with houses on both sides. Used my JD2025R to anchor the chord and pull on it after doing a good 1/3 in face cut. Couldn't go any deeper as there was a narrow steel plate grown into the tree from years ago. Did the back cut and wasn't getting much movement by tugging with tractor even in 4-wheel drive. My concern was that my 2500 lb JD wouldn't be enough to compensate for the lean angle and the tree might go the wrong way towards the house.
So, we chained my Dodge Ram CV van to the front of the tractor for a combination tug.
Using both vehicles we pulled forward enough to get the main trunk to be straight up and no lean. That was encouraging as I now was confident that we had enough tug capability to pull this one over.
Did one more swipe on the back cut and felt the tractor nudge forward a few inches from that so I waved my brother over to get in my van and we both pulled....AND OVER IT WENT.
Felled it exactly where we wanted it to go. What a relief.
Also, a little bonus. There was one of those thorny bushed that you can't get near without getting all scratched up in the anticipated line of fire. My brother said if it falls on that bush that's ok cause he wanted to pull it out anyway. The tree went smack down on the bush center and pretty much crushed it completely. Not a bad ending for what turned out to be a good day!
(I have video I will post on YT at our TBK channel)
Thanks for the video, guys. Really like seeing pros who know enough to use a cable as that was def a real leaner. Also, you really avoid being in range should the tree kick back in what can sometimes be a 'deadly' unexpected result of felling trees! Nice job!
Nice, that's skill! Amazing work. Cheers from Canada!
No matter how many times I pull a hard leaner it scares me as equal to the first ever. I wish I cold change that. Maybe it's because I only have 6 years experience
great fell i could totally see the wind blowing the tree towards the lean .. did someone sound check the truck ? I did notice good holding wood ..
"Story time with August".. Awesome! Love it!
Good job. It worked.
I quit pulling them that way. I hook them that way and then cut them sideways to swing them. I think it takes a lot less power to swing a tree than to pull it over backwards. Maybe I am wrong.
I appreciate how much work goes into all the filming etc. Great videos! Keep on rocking in the free world brother 🤙
Up next! August pulls a fallen tree against its lean into an upright position... then speedlines it all back down.
This is an outstanding comment
16,500 lb winch … uh-Huh, but the truck prolly only weighs 7000 with tools aboard, so be careful!
Well executed August and team
When were you actually sewing the speed-line magazine? That could of been one of the two of mine that I just received Monday. Thanks August.
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You make it sound and look so easy.
An ex brother in law's father had a tree limb hit him in the head. He ended up deaf,blind, and couldn't walk nor talk. Lived for another 20 years but it was no fun. This shit ain't no joke.
poor man
A scary tree that was a massive threat for years suddenly becomes "no problem"!
It kills me when I see good cord wood go in the chipper.
I was thinking that that mulch would do great in my back yard to support the trees that are growing along the creek where the neighbors have been dumping their grass clippings.
My thoughts exactly. So many campfires in that chipper.
I worked for asplundh after I got out of the army years back. We sold lots of wood on the side instead of running it through the chipper. We didn’t waste much wood. We had a guy that wanted any cedar we felled. We had another that took any mesquite we ran across. Another that wanted pecan, and so on. It was a nice side gig.
It's even better milled to fine lumber. The black locust is BEAUTIFUL for wood work
25 years ago the numbers were like. 50 bucks chipped 100 to 200 as cordwood and 1000 as lumber for same log volume of about one cord
Your experience... so appreciate your sharing...
Like I've said before, always like watching pros at work 👍
I never would have thought it'd work looking at it but that just shows you my lack of experience lol
Thanks for answering my question from another video.
Great job!🪓🪓🪓
And this is the first time I seen a truck with a winch being used. 👏👏👏
Good job guys. Y'all take care and have a blessed week and see you on your next vidja. Damien it's getting time for you to post some more vidjas 👍👍
August....There it is. Like no big deal. August- the best. 😎👍👍👍👍👍👍
That’s some Good burning firewood there!!
Thats what I said too. Sad watching it go into a chipper
You know, burning firewood is recycling.
That’s impressive August. Great job!!
Black locust abbreviation: BTUs 🔥
Exactly, and easy BTU's if they were in a wood as they will be nice and tall with very few branches. BL is my primary heat source, the woodshed is already filled for the next two seasons with 80-90% BL. Hated seeing it go into the chipper, but time is money.
Where you located at, I'm near Grand Rapids MI.
@@KeoghDanielAU That's funny "mop tops", they are like weeds, cut them and they pop right back up or propagate off the roots.
With the many species you have there I would think BL would be a waste of time, the density doesn't compare to the eucs even. That being said it's very easy to harvest and process, unfortunately it "crackles" and pops a lot so it's not the best in a fireplace and it doesn't smell the best when burning.
For me it's one of my favorites, but we don't have the sense trees you have.
Used to use them for the pottery kiln!
@@KeoghDanielAU Good burning wood, hard on chains and like my old mountain boy neighbor used to say when I was burning it, " smells like somebody pissing on a camp fire ". Rest in peace, Howard.
All wood have nearly identical BTU's. The difference is the time of burn release!
Great job, good engineered pull!
Damn, and I thought that I was the only one with a 16.5..........Let there be no doubt, you ARE THE MAN
Textbook stump. Beautiful. Mine never looked that good!
Well done guys, awesome job 👌
Many ppl overlook topping sections. A lot easier than falling. Can do small sections at a time )
It's best to let the professionals take care of a job like this. That way you know your not going to destroy the house, vehicle yourself or the neighbors!!! One false move on a tree of this size and someone will go to see Jesus!!! Much respect to you professional tree trimmers. Y'all do something that could be fatal real quick!!!💯❤️💪
That goes Against logic when you first see it.but after carefully analysis of becomes clear.
Impressive..!
Took me a second too. Interesting manipulation of the center of gravity
Nice piece of work August❤❤😅
That was pretty freaking awesome.
I had a 20 inch maple leaning out of woods over yard and house at a 50 - 60 degree.
One day we had a 65 mph wind blowing the right direction.
Told wife i know what I doing today.
Cut that tree wind blew it around 90° and laid it down right along woodline
Great job.
There is a big difference in a cut out in a field and one near a house.
This is definately a job for a professional.
Nobody needs their house damaged.
That locust was a natural Sword of Damocles for those buildings! 😅😅
A couple of questions:
1. Wasn't there a lot of pressure on the saw when making the back cut? Normally you cut the compression side first to prevent it being pinched.
2. Was there a danger that the tree's weight might be enough to let it start falling and pull the truck behind it? The cable and winch might be rated for 8 tons, but how heavy is the truck?
Hopefully the truck was anchored to something. There is no point having a winch with more pulling power than the weight of the truck if you don't anchor it.
I was rooting for you.. so to speak..
I'm impressed..!!
I'd of climbed and stripped it before I called someone else to fell it for me 🙈 pride and ego I guess. Fair play Damien for making the call 👍
"I'd of climbed" don't make no since. The mambo dogface to the banana patch!
Amazingly job done..
I am a retired hand faller from the coast of british columbia. You arborist types are all theater.$$$$$
Snore
Moses August parting the black locust at the campground! I love having my mini excavator on the tree jobs too.
True professionals, very well done men!
Merry Christmas
Nice drop!! Been a fan. Keep it up bro
I actually tightened my stomach muscles. This guy knows his physic!
Couldn’t have done it better myself! Very impressive.
Augie my Boy...Ol' sock ol' bean ol' boot.....nice job !!