Shaq Made a Night of Bad Officiating Even Worse
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Here's a chance to learn about the NBA's dislodging rule. There were a lot of bad calls, but Shaq defending this blatant offensive foul was insufferable. 20 years of LeBron James getting away with this crap has led to basketball courts full of no-slill balco boys.
Shaq seems intent on convincing us he doesn't know basketball rules. - Розваги
Shaq doesn't agree with dislodging because he made his career doing it. 😂
If you played Shaq tough and he missed his jump hook, you can damn well bet he was gonna go through your chest the next time he got the ball. And the foul was probably on you lol.
@@patedison5902 unless you are dennis rodman
Exactly
Or Hakeem .@@crackerjack9320
exactly - he did it all
the time! shaq is a dolt
Shaq is basically justifying 90 percent of the moves of his career.
Only 90?
And most of Lebron's.
@@JayLandon64Nah Bron actually shoots 3's though Shaq was doing that every possession.
He couldn't play ball
If I wanted to watch basketball players running into each other with no consequences I would watch WNBA... come on... Playing hard isn't just running into each other
The officials are so bad anymore........traveling, carrying the ball, running people over, its very hard to watch
Nah, this game was actually a game. It isn't anyone's fault but the Nuggets' for this loss. So, tired of this soft era of the NBA. The Wolves are something to look forward to.
Definitely a charge
It is totally unwatchable! Shaq is not only stupid, but a narcissistic clown! They pay him money to be STUPID, OFFENSIVE AND IN LOVE WITH HIMSELF!
And they did their best to help the Lakers last round. That was brutal.
They are bad. They know exactly what they are doing, rigging games like usual.
Shaq knows that acknowledging that offensive
foul, indirectly criticizes his former playstyle🤣
Exactly!
Shaq would have been fouling out of games during the first half if he playerd during Wilt's era. I like Shaq, but bully ball was his game.
@@CWhyNot75 yeah, I get a bit aggravated when I hear how Shaq was the most dominant forgetting Wilt. Wilt was better in every category, Shaq had about 30 more pounds than Wilt. The great centers that Wilt (and he played against many more than Russell) played against were entering their prime when Wilt was leaving his.
Most of the great centers Shaq played against were leaving their primes when Shaq entered his. (Heck, I compiled the Western starting centers of 01-02, and take away Shaq they averaged something like 9.5 ppg and 6.5 rpg give or take)
@DemonKingBadger admittedly he was post Hakeem Robinson ftmp and the guys left were body fillers and the one criticism the kids are right about is that period had less skilled big men and simply more powerful ones due to being able to camp. The league was better in some areas like PG/SG in that Era, and ball was better when teams weren't gambling 3pt % every fucken night with no offensive fouls or traveling.
Flopping wasn't as epidemic then as it is now
shaq literally repeats the same 3 sentences every show. at least kenny and charles try to say new shit, even if they're wrong.
Shaq is that annoying guy that thinks he's more important and funny than he really is.
He's funny in commercials but horrible as a commentator. Still can't believe he's on the TNT crew.
Barkley is by far the best. At least he is objective
People like Shaq or he wouldn't be such a massive brand. But he is a bad commentator. He doesn't watch the games for sure.
Shaq made a career via that exact move. It's why Shaq will never be considered even top 25 status historically.
Yea no
They always say he was "the most dominant player". I never liked how he was allowed to bowl over players. If I want to watch that, I'll watch football. I agree with Charles on the inconsistency of how games are officiated currently.
Shaq had problems with Jao ,Jao block him reguraly,soooo Wilt will woop his a..of and def ,most dominant pl ever?!? Yeah right pfffff
NY game, "that's a foul." Denver game, "that's not a foul, stop." The officials and the media "analysts" have no consistency or integrity anymore.
Because they're in on the fix.
Never did.
It's always been a narrative league and the Nuggets were NEVER popular and have never got a good whistle in a single series they've played. The league doesn't like the team and they make it abundantly clear. If the Wolves play Boston they're gonna foul out and be reigned in QUICK, and the narrative will be how Boston broke up the Wolves defense with 3s. Their defenders won't be allowed half the physicality they are rn, and it'll be swept right under the rug. No one will care.
Both plays were very different 😂. I’m loving the nuggets tears, keep ‘‘em coming
pat fruher is a minnesota native and was allowed to referee a minnesota Timberwolves game.
Shaq is entertaining but he is completely bias, and jokic getting all this credibility makes him jealous, so instead of being fair, he acts like an ass towards the nuggets. He wasn't telling LeBron whats and not a foul tho
No one should take Shaq serious, he has proven that many a time.
I'd wager that a solid 50% of shaq's scoring came from various offensive fouls. And by 50% I mean 75%.
And by 75% you mean 95% - because it certainly didn't come from free throws.
@@MaydayAggro I was being charitable. In fairness he did have a nice light touch around the rim, the problem was he just pushed guys out of the way to get there.
Shaq is saying that because he played the same way. In the early to mid 90’s, running through a guys chest like lebron and shaq did would always be called an offensive foul (as it should be). But the nba started to allow shaq (and then subsequently lebron and every other player in the league) run over a defender and it either be allowed or even called a defensive foul. They had to do that because in the late 90’s when Jordan retired, the nba was in desperate need of a new face to try and keep their ratings high. Shaq had been the 2nd most popular player in the league since he came in. He was getting swept out of the playoffs pretty much every year despite being on loaded rosters, so the nba decided to allow shaq to just run over guys as much as he wanted, to ensure shaq would be the best player in the league, and so nobody would be able to defend him in the playoffs, thus allowing his team to finally break through and win. They eventually did the same thing for lebron. He has no moves or jump shot, so the nba has just allowed him to travel and commit offensive fouls on every possession.
Exactly, this is Shaq defending his greatness. I mean, even Barkley did this to some extent.
🎯💯
This, I did not know. I would love to see an in-depth video breakdown on this, with evidence.
Shaq was only the best player in the league for 2 or 3 years before Tim Duncan won his 2 league MVPs.
@@renstein8210 eh, not really. Barkley would back down a lot, but most of the time it was legal. There’s a difference between backing someone down and doing what kat did on that play or what shaq used to do, which is gathering yourself, loading up all your force and then slamming into a guy as hard as you can.
Looks like every time LeCharge gets near the hoop..
😂😂😂
It's part of his dribbling rythm to bash his shoulder into the defender when hes in the post.
@@ezfly5680 Was that that "crab-dribble" he was talking about...
@@someguy2972 I think so
Shaq trying to justify what he got away with when he played.
The defender was moving the first time there was contact, but the second time was planted defender versus a freight train.
And Shaw’s advice is to move his feet. Lol
That's why O'Neal is not in my top players of all time! He ran over other players!
Saying the NBA isn't rigged is like saying the WNBA is profitable..
The NFL is worse. Rigged, scripted and terrible officiating.
Stop hating
Damn this got me thinking. Nobody wants the face of the nba to be a white european. So they would gladly whistle againts him. The singing (as in pirates of the caribean) has began they already want to see more of future MJ/kobe type of person which is Edwards. At the end they see this as a show business and entertainment to earn money not to make it, in legal sense fair.
@@nikolatodorov1994 I agree. It's all about money. Entertainment is what they are selling. If you go back to the history of basketball, the ABA and the NBA the businessmen knew that the money was in the entertainment and not just regulation basketball. I think you need both and great officiating to make it good business. Having said that, I believe anyone who has the skills and talent to play basketball should be rewarded and recognized no matter what race, color, or nationality, or part of the world they come from. Unfortunately the NBA is about money and not fans anymore. They pay to keep certain narratives alive and have sadly become political. Many of my friends have been critical of what's going on in the NBA when it comes to players that we love and are legendary. The Legendary Larry Bird is GOAT statis in our circle. We never thought he got enough praise. We love Luka, Dirk, Nikola, Gosal brothers Marc and Pau, Yao, Manu, Beno, Tony, Boban, Domantas and many more. Just because we are black it doesn't matter to our circle who is great at basketball. We give props to the greats who play great basketball.
@@nikolatodorov1994yup. I could add the mavs losing. They got a lot of BS fouls. Half of those free-throws, maybe even more, are touch fouls. I keep thinking about Timberwolves and their physicality. But when mavs do it they get penalized. As the game goes on, mavs became more scared to actually play defense. Now I'm not blaming just the refs. We'll see game 2. But it's just so blatant at time. SGA had more free throws made than fgs made in the 1st half
Thats obviiously ofrfensive. Referees control the game.
NBA IS RIGGED
Shaq is considered one of the greatest ever, because of exactly this type of refereeing. I don't mind giving him his props, but, I hated watching Arvydas Sabonis play perfect defense on him, only to have Shaq elbow him directly to the face, while running over him, with Sabonis usually receiving a personal foul for his efforts.
That exact play seriously sticks out for real Shaq hits him in the face and runs over him
@@JohnBogoioff I saw it SO MANY times, it got fairly sickening. And yet, Sabonis never quit playig proper defense, until the refs fouled him out, or, he had to sit with foul trouble.
That's a huge part of the reason that I'm ecstatic to see Sabonis' son doing so well in the league. Maybe, he can bring home the trophy that the league stole from his dad.
Quick question: How would the Timberwolves series be officiated if the Lakers were their opponent. How many free throws would Lebron, A.D. and Reeves get. I would put the over-under at 30 free throws for the Lakers.
This was my exact post on a Skap Attack video yesterday:
"Just look at all the contact by Minnesota in just the clips Skap showed. If that was the Lakers instead of Denver, they would`ve had close to 100 free throws attempts, and all the Minnesota players would`ve fouled out. I think refs SHOULD be allowing this amount of contact, but they have to be calling it evenly throughout the league."
Jokic seemed very frustated during and after the game. After seeing some images of the match i think the the referees are the reason. Minnesota played defense with tons of contacts on Denver's players and the referees didnt call fouls lots of times.
Jokic mad he got blocked 2+ times in a row, TWICE. Mad that he has like 15 turnovers so far playing the wolves.
Mad that he is -28 for the series so far. Mad that his number 2(Murray) was 0-11 for the entire first quarter.
Stop blaming refs, even if they are bad, for the players playing like shit. The clip showed here is one of the few no calls during the entire game. There was another really bad no call where they allowed Jokic to blatantly travel from the 3 point line to the basket. Lots of no called and 1s for both teams.
Modern NBA is just WWE. Just with more scripts, steroids and a ball.
lmao, I just watched all of Shaq's WWE appearances the other day
@@AyayronBalakay I would also like to state that this man has a Ed.D Let that sink in.
I wish the wrestlers still did roids 😅😂 all indy mídgets now
Oh they do@@DannyBZ9
I truly used to always believe this take was hyperbolic. But as somehow who grew up on late 90's, early 2000's NBA basketball, this is becoming more and more true every season. Which is a shame. And its one thing to have non calls, flopping, traveling, all of that. But it makes it so much more worse when they calling is uneven. Where one team can do something and its a no call, then the other team can do the exact same thing and they get called. There is no consistency.
Not going to lie, I love the Nuggets, but they do flop A LOT. Though most teams do at varying degrees, they are up there with the Lakers and Knicks. As someone who grew up loving Kobe, and despising LeBron, ANT is a breath of fresh air. He reminds me of late 90's, early 2000's basketball. So there is glimpses of hope here and there, but they really need to reevaluate how refs call games. Not only do they need to enforce the rules, but enforce them evenly and consistently.
I love Shaq, but he has some notoriously bad takes.
shaq is a garbage analyst, only thing he says is for players to be "more aggressive"
Yea, this is one of those times where he lacks self-awareness!
I think he is a good guy, truly. But he for sure has an insecure ego. Which there has to be a reason he is that way, even though he is one of the most successful NBA players on and off the court. But if someone even slightly or accidently challenges him, he takes it as challenging his ego and will double down on the lamest stuff. It's why Barkley always gets the best of them when they fight, because Shaq comes off as a child, and Chuck just laughs at him. lol
I like shaq to until he starts his dumb shit he's probably the kindest person ever but his bb views are just stupid most times!!
They let Shaq do that all the time. That was his move. No wonder he thinks it’s legal.
20+ years later Shaq looks deep shocked by the fact, that move was illegal. He never knew that...😮
We call that elbow charge the LeBron shoulder shrug
And this is why we are "haters". Lecheat has produced players like Embiid/Towns and fearful players to take charges among many of his other sins to the game. P.s. of course Shaq disagreed with Chuck, he'd have two less rings if 50% of The Lakers points weren't scored and allowed this way during their 3peat. Man up 6 ft nothing with no shot at blocking the shot, move your feet, get hit with the foul only to be called for a blocking foul for wait for it....moving your feet, and be a man idiot.
@@joepermenter7228 also, Shaquille O'Neal was the original steroid Superstar. The only reason why he stopped taking steroids is because he wanted to become a cop and he knew you would fail the test. So that's why the Lakers sent him to Miami. They knew he would decline after the steroid use cycle was over. A lot of people don't know that Shaquille O'Neal did steroids
@@joepermenter7228 3 of his championships have asterisks anyway. Reffing in 2000 vs Portland game 7, Game 6 2002 rigged west finals vs Sacramento, The whole 06' finals where they decided to give Dwayne Wade 25 free throws a game and they reel off four straight...RIGGED!
@@someguy2972 I said two on purpose because that King series went beyond speculation to fact after the ref snitched on the league.
@@joepermenter7228 Yeah you wonder how many more games/series were decided by that shit. With the mafia and probably the FBI being involved we'll probably never know. Remember Jordan was betting on golf with some mafia dudes too and then we know what happened to his dad.
Townes traveled as well. While plowing over the defender.
Shaquille O'Neal unironically calls Bill Russell the greatest player of all time because...he has the most rings.
By that logic, the second-greatest player of all time is Sam Jones, who has ten.
Shaq should not be listened to on basketball.
I just watched a few clips. The officiating standard for this series is vastly different than the regular season and the Denver/Lakers series. It is crazy different.
Lol cope. Timberwolves are playing good defense. There's only a few clips of questionable no calls. A few no calls doesn't make a team score only 30 by the half lmao
@@internetexplorer3596 How is that a cope? It is a simple statement of fact. If you watched the LA Lakers series, the officiating was VERY different.
@@internetexplorer3596the comment simply stated a fact. Nothing to cope over. Sorry bud.
@@renstein8210 100% what i noticed.. the officiating always benefits the Opponent of the Nuggets... the Lakers were a$$.. but some how they manged to hang with the Nuggets.. and now when they play a good team like the stacked wolves + they have the ref advantage... its pretty much a done deal
Shaq can barley speak let alone say anything of value
You're saying the college educated multimillionaire is stupid?
@@l9ikjam money does not mean youre smart dude
i cant tell if ur being sarcastic im assuming so LOL
@@l9ikjam lol read the comment section dude looks like ur the genius!? lol
@@l9ikjam Doesn't mean he's dumb. It means he's got marbles in his mouth. Why is he even on TNT?
Kat not only dislodged but looked like a up an down travel to me. Just saying
Shaq was the King of dislodging, shit more like bulldozing.
Nah Murray flopping
@@DonD-rb1mr🙄
Yeah I no longer have a dog in this fight but the Nuggets got screwed in this game especially early and then it affected their composure and play from then onwards.
Wilt Chamberlain got called offensive fouls on him for barely bumping into the defender. Despite what younger fans think Wilt had to use some skill to score he didn't just run over every defender. Wilt would have been even more dominant if he could run over people like Towns did last night or like Lebron does to defenders when he has the size advantage.
So last night Brunson (mostly jumpers) shot 14 free throws. Jokic (mostly in paint) shot 6... yeah, the refs are excellent. 😅
the nba doesn't want jokic to win back to back chips
yea bc he makes a total mockery of the league
@@julyonlamont00he really does! I used to dislike him but now I love the guy 😂😂👍🏻
@@ianguarneschelli2082 I dislike him for this VERY reason, actually. BUT to each it's own, I guess. Some people favor D-rose .. players that give their blood sweat and tears for this game. Others favor a player who could care less about the game as if it didn't change their life and families lives forever 🤷🏾♂️ Two different pedigrees
@@julyonlamont00 hey I get it. If this was 15 years ago I’d say Jokic disrespects the game with his comments. But at the same time, how can he be expected to be be respectful of this league, when every year it turns more and more into a joke (no pun intended). Don’t mean to mock the NBA if you’re still an avid fan though, sincerely; I do believe we are all moving away from sports at our own pace though..
@@ianguarneschelli2082 I havent heard truer words in a while.. Great point!
We all know Shaq make a career out of being the most physically gifted player in his era (quite possibly of all time). He made zero improvments to his game and retired the way he came into the league. I have no idea why ppl take his words about hard work and commitment seriously when it's well documented that he played his way into shape. Hearing him critique players about their commitment is honestly comical to me.
When Shaq was with Kobe and the Lakers,he was always coming to training camp out of shape
He was worse when he retired. Orlando Shaq had moves to go with his strength and speed.
@@user-mp2fb9ku5o Move #1- Run over player for One Hand dunk, Move # 2 baby hook, Move # 3 Run over player for 2-hand dunk...
the nba wants to wolves to win b/c of Edwards - the new face of the nba
so nuggets beat lakers and all is good but know nuggets getting there butt kicked now it’s bad referee, and it’s a set up the joker does the same thing all elbows…
U guys are stupid af. Of course the nba is rigged, but they would rather nuggets win this (game 2)& tie the series so it goes 6 or 7. Now they might get swept. The nba will do everything to make this a series & save the nuggets game 3. Wolves are clearly the better team & itsnot even close
yup... they hate the nuugets
I the officiating is so bad, I have been waiting for guys to throw punches...
Wonder what the response would be if Aaron Gordon hit Ant like that.
the refs would be checking the video for flagrant
Refs confused now with all their boys in Cancun :D
Agree they that’s lebum
The nugs won the series, but there were so many plays of Bron, leading with the elbow into the chest on his "drives." This series is going to be a looottt closer, so the refs actually matter more.
I am a Minnesota guy. But this game went from great team D, to a competitive streetball pick uo game in a hurry. Did anyone happen to see the Wolve player take the Nugget player down. It was like a single leg takedown.
I saw Kyle Anderson straight up tackle someone, I think it was Reggie Jackson. No call
Shaq is just another example of his build and height being a gift from Mother Nature who thinks he’s some sort of basketball savant like Lebron, when really they are both just big bullies.
Shaq’s movement and coordination at that size is an athletic wonder.
@@PharaohsNewsyeah that's what the guy said
You are correct. Neither Shaq nor James have the skill of Jokic. It was a charge call in NY but in Denver a no call. Why, because Adam Silver is punishing the Nuggets because their coach exposed the hypocrisy in LA with the free throw disparity. The NBA is becoming more like ancient Rome everyday. Silver's as bad as Brandon.
Does 'savant' mean manipulative crybaby now? Why wasn't i notified?
@@martinjohnfox nah they only think they’re savants lol
TNT should dislodge Shaq from the halftime show, he does not have anything to contribute as an “analyst”.
This was one of the worst games of the year! The NBA want Denver to lose! The Wolves are good they didn't need the help form the refs!
Exactly. The NBA hates the Nuggets, and they especially hate Jokic, who is the best player in the league. But his skin color is white, and he’s not a naturally gifted athlete, so they won’t market a guy like him. The T-Pups are the perfect squad for the NBA. Their skin color is the right tone and they play above the rim. And with Lebron at the end of his career, they need another star they can market like Jordan. Enter Anthony Edwards. He checks every single box. The Jordan comparisons have already started, and they are gonna force this dude into every basketball fans living room for the next 6-8 years. 2024 postseason rig job is in full swing!
@@jondubb35it’s not about him being white. You people have no idea how insane you look saying that. Sure maybe they don’t want Denver to win. But it’s not because their star is WHITE 💀 good god
@jondubb35 it was a while ago now, but 5 different articles appeared in one day calling Edwards the new Jordan, I knew what was happening, LeBron is less marketable now and about to retire, Edwards will get all the calls and be made into the new Jordan.
The only hope for the league is that this poor kid gets a career altering injury... sad as it sounds.
@@jondubb35 wow u just had to make it about race 🤦♀🤦♀not saying the nba isnt rigged but stop saying its about race when its not its about the most exciting playstyle .
@@mrfinalsmvp8067 no, it’s about race. If u think race isn’t involved then you are in massive denial.
I mean Murray was garbage but obviously still a foul.
Both can be true at the same time, and Murray did turn into Ben Simmons without the defense...or height!
@bully.of.broad.st.3626 Yeah, that was the point of my comment. They were still going to lose, but obvious foul there.
@@autismcrocs Great minds think alike I would say!
1. Shaq is illogical so I usually just ignore his vapid opinions. 2. That was an egregious offensive foul and Murray was right to gesture the rigged money sign to the refs. Cause it does look rigged at this point. I love physical play but physical play in the 90s was crafty, and stuff uncrafty and unruly was called a foul. But here the refs seem to just be letting the game be physical for one side only. 3. Murray sadly I will say has Kobe's weakness - guarding in the post. As the smaller player, Murray needs to know the options he has in that scenario - me I one: take the hard foul, or 2, "pull the chair" on him, or 3, go for the aggressive strip, or 4, turn him baseline plus go for an aggressive strip. Sadly guys who arent used to playing offense and defense in the post are like deer in headlights guarding in the post.
And before people get surprised when I say Kobe.... yeah its true, Kobe didnt have a legit post game - 9 out of 10 times he's either taking a turnaround in the post or going up and under in the post. Which is why he too struggled guarding guys like Corey Magette, Bonzi Wells, Rubin Patterson etc in the post. Anyway AOH is 1000% right in that the play was an offensive foul.
IDK? but I think the refs called it like the game was for the Wolves. It's like what happened with the Lakers vs Celtics in 08. Lakers was a finesse team and the refs let the Celtics bully them. There's no way Leon Powe shot more FT than Kobe and the whole Lakers team. That's how ridiculous the calls were.
NBA and the refs wanted to build-up Minnesota as the "next Chicago Bulls" and Anthony Edwards as the "next MJ" to attract the NBA old-timer fans who are stayed away from the current NBA.
this aint sports no more.. the NBA can sk a left Nutt
Jokic got hammered all game long. They didn’t even try to hide the rig job last night. NBA is circus sideshow.
Clearly the NBA creates the delusion of athletes winning games. When in reality they’re the ones that pick the winners before the game starts
100%
Couldn't have said it better myself
So your saying last year Nuggets didn't really win a championship, NBA decided to pick them to win it?
As the great Wilt Chamberlain once said, “He(Shaq) gets away with what I would consider murder”.
Shaq would have been fouled out in 1st quarter of most of the games if they called him on it. He had a league pass for dislodging
The league has it out for coach Malone specifically after insinuating nefarious play with the lakers free throw disparity
The officiating was so bad, pick up game basketball where you call your own fouls would have been better.
Not saying the TWolves didn't outplay the nuggets, but the referee basically gave the Wolves the game on a silver platter.
Im glad that i wasnt only one who see those refs was so bad. Or corrupt. Or maybe badly corrupt. Silver keep doing his stuff.
🤫 "Shhhh, don't you see that the NBA is trying to make ANT the new face of the league??" 🤣🤣🤣
What? Lol, have another
It would have been interesting if LA made it through and played Minnesota. My guess is LA would have shot 1,000 free throws.
Welcome to the core of why i couldn't stand the Shaq-Kobe kobes of old and why my Spurs ended thier Lil title run back in '03 with pure skill and surgical percussion.
This game and the Pacers Knicks game was near impossible to watch! They were officiated absolutely terribly!!
This was the play that ended the nuggets composure.They had nothing after this
Totally agree- NBA is lucky the nuggets just mailed it in, letting that kind of crap go can lead to some serious fouls in a lot of cases
Not really
Shaq doesn't want Jokic winning anymore and replace him in the best center of all time list.
The NBA hates the Denver Nuggets. Officiating in the NBA is inconsistent officials favor their favorite players.
5th in paint points in the reg season but 29th in FTAs. It's not even subtle
Yeah they hate them so much they won a championship last year and their best player has his 3rd MVP 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We all know now who the refs had their money on.
People are saying the wolves are playing like the 90s but this looks more like tge bad boys pistons.
100%.. its the Lakers fans/Minnesota bandwagon fans and the Media who push this narrative. Great D what a Joke.. straight up fouls.
The way these playoffs are being called its apparent to me the league has predetermined for OKC to play T-Wolves in the conference finals. The Mavs v OKC game is being called just as bad in OKC's favor. I love defense and physical play but there are rules - and when I see traveling, handchecking, double-handchecking, moving screens, and over-the-back rebounds on EVERY posession or EVERY other posession, its disgusting. Exciting playoffs this year but they should please stop making it look so rigged.
I love me some Shaq. I was busy doing something during halftime, but man, that was bad. Good on Charles for knowing what the rules are and calling that crap out.
That game, you might not have seen the officiating difference with (Denver had more) free throws, but it was very clear that the Wolves were given way more leeway with contact on both ends compared to what they were allowing the Nuggets. Lot of ticky tac stuff one way, a whole lot of this stuff the other way. That is so clearly a dislodge, like wtf are these NBA refs doing? Why aren't they calling this?
I dunno what the 4th quarter was like, I stopped paying attention after the 3rd, but those first 3 quarters were not officiated well. A lot of people were crediting the Wolves defense, which is fine because they played well in general, but lets not act like they didn't get away with a lot of chippy play on that end as well. I was very surprised when I seen that the Nuggets actually outshot the Wolves at the stripe.
Offensive fouls do not get called because this would stop the clock and no points could be made. And the NBA is all about astronomical numbers instead of good games. For the same reason travelling, offensive three second violations and double dribbles are not called.
The league really does not like denver.
I don't really feed into conspiracy theories, but I know for sure the media doesn't like the Nuggets. That has been obvious since Jokic won his first MVP. And they desperately want an American player to be the face of the league. And who is that player? Anthony Edwards. And don't get me wrong, he is a fantastic player. But it seems like the NBA and media want them to get rid of the Nuggets SO badly. It allows them to belittle Jokic more and give ANT the crown as the face of the league. Every time I see the media getting together to push forced narratives I already know something is up.
The Nuggets are getting screwed
Everyone should now point the finger at Silverman for his efforts to increase scoring and discourage defensive play.
In this new generation NBA refs go by elementary school rules. If they actually went by the rules a lot of these players would struggle
It's Adam silver retaliation 101...his instructed officials carried lefake 2 seasons and despite the officials doing all they could to advance LA they list to Denver..So looking at a potential repeat and 3rd mvp from joker a better player than lefake ever was are now being steam rolled by the officials allowing the Timberwolves...
I think the NBA is against the Nuggets, Jokic specifically.
”Jokic specifically” knocked down Towns a few minutes before this play.
Are you sure it’s the same thing? Because KAT is about as big as Jokic and there are multiple instances of the trying to flop for a charge. AOH even has a short on NAZ. Not saying it would ve made a difference. Who knows.
@@arguseyed9982 Could be the media, but with all the talk over the last couple years it's more the general impression I get than this specific game.
@@melodyisdead503 Well then go check out Gafford launching himself like a torpedo into Zubac and then dunking in game 6. That ended up being a top play of the night highlight.
This was nowhere near as hard.
@@arguseyed9982 cool bro. But that’s not what jokic does. There were multiple flops by “big men” when jokic had the ball. Jamal Murray getting sent is not comparable.
Of course shaq is bout it. Hes the greatest dislodger of all time.
I’m a wolves fan but that was charging and not happy with the flop either, I want to win because we earned it
yeh good luck with that.
Yeah it’s like the league has done a complete 180 recently with the physicality. Used to be ticky tack contact would be fouls but now they’re playing football. The Mavs Clippers series was mugging on both sides. I like physical play but not when it’s excessive to when guys can get hurt or it could lead dirty plays that lead to fights on the court.
O'Neal, with offensive fouls called correctly, during his career, would have considerably lower points per game, for his career. I like that Barkley told him he was not better than Wilt, when O'Neal said he was. I would have enjoyed, if he could have played against Wilt, prime to prime, or, really, even when Wilt was 50 and he was 30, or so. Just saying.
Not to mention the traveling violation
They decided Anthony Edwards is the new face of the league and they have always hated Jokic so its going to be called this way.
As soon as the latest narrative of Anthony Edwards being the next MJ and the new face of the league started taking off in the media, you knew that a lot of ✌🏻situations✌🏻 were going to go the way of Minnesota. And for anyone that still think’s there is no league office bias and marketing agenda, go back and watch the 2002 WCF between the Kings vs Lakers playoff games.
Whoever thinks the NBA has no marketing agenda is completely clueless as to how the league functions ( ever since the 80s at the least ).
@@user-mp2fb9ku5o Stern saw what the WWF did with professional wrestling and felt he had to copy that. Sure it helped made the game more popular worldwide which is good, but the methods to get it to that point like focusing on "stars" at the expense of just having great overall teams led to the watering down of the game. Expansion helped that process too.
because they got used to seeing lechoke getting away with it in HD, so others just do it too. it's just basketball anyway.
It’s just basketball💉💉
There were three bad calls/no calls in that Nuggets game. Two against the Nuggets, one against the Wolves (Jokic getting an offensive foul called when Edwards touched him in the 4th). Odd how much people focus on the calls against the Nuggets. They let both teams play all night and the wolves were more aggressive. The refs did not impact the outcome of the game, at all.
Also, it is not the new generation that says, "get in the gym". It is the old generation that wants the physicality. However that was a bad no call, absolutely agree.
I don't care if it's rigged. I want to see Antman completely reinvent the game with his offense.
Didn't Towns travel before that?
Nuggets gotta rebuild that team ASAP if they want to challenge Minnesota next season.
It’s genuinely baffling that they made ZERO moves in the off-season except to lose 2 crucial vets. Jokić clearly exhausted from carrying this team all year.
Wouldn’t say rebuild, but need a piece or two.
@@webgem14 Yeah, more like re-tool.
They gotta get a dominant starting center that will allow Jokic to do his business as a point-forward; and they need a backup center to be able to compete with MInnesota and OKC's size and length.
They also need a point guard. Murray is good in flashes but hes streaky af and his character is questionable
If the whistle remains anything like last game Denver is going to need a team of linebackers
@@-ac-8296 The refs are playing dumb and allowing Minnesota's "technically not a foul but it really is a foul" type of play to continue.
They're using their bodies to basically body check but wihtout using their hands and the refs ar elike "I DoN't SeE aNytHIng WrOng HeRE"
Naz Reid is running people over lmao
Thank you for the video AOH, I saw this too and it really upset me. I’m glad I’m not the only one upset with Shaq. Referees were clearly against Denver Nuggets in the first half. in the second half they evened it up a little bit, but it was too late for nuggets.
It's illegal unless allowed by the commissioner. Shaq was allowed to do it on Dave Stern's favorite teams at the time.
Yup, the game is still unwatchable even without Lebron. They gotta fix this, I don’t even think the refs know what is or is not a foul anymore.
Nor a technical
They're always going to that damn video ref even if there's no challenge (which should only be used at the end of the game by the way).
Shaq committed more offensive fouls than any other player in history. Most of them were never called.
NBA fan to the NBA.
“You’re losing me”
the NBA does not want the Nuggets in the finals again.
He traveled too lol
You're a casual every single player in the NBA travels they almost never call it. Shit in this same game they allowed jokic to travel all the way from the 3 point line to the basket in one play
Shaq's entire game was plowing into people so of course he says that play was not a foul. I can't stand Shaq on that show. He's always in his feelings and he's incapable of leaving his bias out of the convo.
Id be happier if the nba just openly said they got rid of alot of these rules for the sake of modern play as opposed to this wierd grey area where they pick and choose when they call things.
Game 2 was the single most physical game i have ever witnessed. Watch Game 3 will be called a lot tighter to bring Denver back into series. This is exactly how the NBA made the 2015 and 2016 Finals competitive
you're saying refs are going to help nuggets?... that is wild, did you not see this series so far?... it's been pretty clear that the reffing in this series is designed to favor wolves, why would they now try to help the nuggets?
i think you mean that after being too obvious the refs will have to call it more FAIRLY
@@notimportant3686it’s all about bets. If they don’t people won’t put money up. If Denver suddenly gets back into the series people will throw money down. Game was rigged before betting was legal but now it’s just blatant as hell
@@DC-ml6cv it's not just about bets. It's about ad revenues too.
Lol a round house kick to the face, I’d love to see shaqs face after that but great analogy
The NBA wants Anthony Edwards as the new face of the league, they don’t want Jokic. I would expect many calls not to go the Nuggets way, and that spells defeat against a team that’s as good as the Timberwolves are defensively. The league also gave the Lakers 1150+ free throw differential over last two seasons for those doubters. 😂
Shaq said it's ok because that is how Shaq got 90% of his points...
I was watching the game (ass whopping would be more accurate) when Shaq said that, and while I enjoy a good amount of fight and contact in the playoffs, there were clearly some calls that blown big time and others that were minimized. This one was so downplayed it was tiptoeing into the realm of stupidity! It was a foul Shaq, you can barely do that in hockey man come on!
Shaq aka The Big Mumble
Shaq doesn’t agree with what Chuck is saying cause it would invalidate 90% of his career.