Disclaimer: Before watching the podcast i just want to let you know that this one is Less about Campus culture and more about Genderings & Feminism (60/40) Which really sucks I wonder if Amanullah were hosting (or in the panel) then the whole discussion would be on next level presumably...!
Sara, Tehreem, and Ayesha bring their unique perspectives as guests on the podcast. Their insights on university culture, women's rights, and Co education add depth to the discussions, making the podcast a compelling and worthwhile listen.
All of these things exist in corporate culture. Even worse, harassment is at its peak in corporate culture as well. Some women feel compelled to build disrespectful relationships with their bosses to get a few thousand rupees raise in salary and an unworthy job title as a promotion. Women who work within boundaries and in a respectful way are often not noticed, even if they are doing extraordinary work. However, these girls who are still studying or have just graduated from universities seem very sensible and mature, which is uncommon in Gen Z. May Allah protect all women from harm and keep us safe and healthy with our families. Ameen.
Amazing content and beautiful discussion. Also consider making podcast on IT industry of Pakistan and its future outcome for Pakistan. Also invite someone from FAST, COMSATS, and PUC-IT
This is an interesting podcast channel,what I most like about this podcast is the diversity of topics being discussed and a guests from lots of different fields of life from students to sports analysts to MMA trainers to business people to scientists,a lot of interesting podcasts I have seen from it recently.
Kuch kaam editor ko bi kar lena chahiyah wese k upload karne se pehle jab edit kar raha hon tu audio levels up kar de taa ke hum loog tu sab ko samajh sakain.
1:06:00 at the end, I'm a university graduate and the 4-year period was terrible. At first, females do not even recognize males. You can never judge what's going on in your male classmate's mind. In my 4-year-old university span, the females were extremely comfortable with the same boys who had the same mentality behind their backs that i couldn't imagine. I don't mind but you can't judge by anyone's looks. I am sure even today that they will be in touch even today. Even those girls longed to hang out with them. So my point is dont judge someone rapidly and give opinion
People doesn't want to listen what they're saying instead they're focusing why they're sitting without parda..When you read the quranic verse about veil it's mentioned " jab tum bahar niklo Apne cheron ko dhaank lo taaki tum satai na jao"...so face veil isn't compulsory all the time it's conditional..
@@theredomarArey Bhai Jo bhi BAAT ho Yahan parde ki BAAT Kahan se aagayi woh keh kia rahin poore podcast me wo asal mudda hai..parda unka apna masla hai
Very rightly said. Actually, mostly men in our society are not willing to accept women equally talented, out spoken, intelligent. Pardah lai ker aa jaatay...none of your concern.
I agree with the point raised on 54:33, Its very important to bridge this gap earlier on in life. You cannot just expect people to know how to act with the opposite gender when you just throw them together suddenly in a workplace setting when they haven't had this experience before in life. Plus with age comes certain rigidity that changing perspectives becomes increasingly difficult. The problem is that for their whole lives, kids have never interacted with the opposite gender and they create an image in their minds with the second hand knowledge from poor sources. And suddenly they are thrown into this melting pot of different people coming from different backgrounds and value systems, that are our universities. Some even dont have the luxury of co-ed institutes and directly land into the industry with 0 knowledge and nearly no experience in dealing with the other genders. The solution boils down to de-taboo the interaction between genders. Teaching kids from a younger age about the basics of biology and how things work. Teaching them how to maintain a respectful interaction the other gender. And most importantly letting them know that this interaction isn't prohibited. This problem can never be solved by expecting adults to suddenly change their perspectives. And definitely not by trying to limit their interaction even more. I believe in addition to having some sort of simplified "sex ed" education there should be more room for children to interact and grow together. Of course, with a certain degree of oversight. this is the only way we can shift our whole generation to be more focussed on bigger problems then having issues in maintaining basic relationships at work or at home.
But what about western societies that have already experimented this kind of educational system? Girls do get harmed in those societies. Co Ed is not the solution
Is everything is all right in high societies when the kids has co existence from ver starting ? I think those who has siblings in opposite gender already teaches from starting about the approach .
Hats off to the boys in the comments, hyper-focused on 'pardah,' but seems they missed the memo on making girls feel confident and comfortable. 'Larkon ko abbu banne ka boht shok' - well, that apparently explains it. Bravo, Abbu Patrol! 👏🕶️
Extreme liberal man is a threat to women, I am not saying every man, only "Extreme". If not early but later every woman realizes it. Because chances of exploitation increases in loose environment. You can intellectually disagree with me.
The crux of this podcast, as I understand it, is "Guys should try to see things from a girl's perspective as well, so they will automatically take a step back from dialogues like 'yae meri bandi hai.'"
Follow some religious concepts and rules and regulations, everything will be okay. Like protecting yourself under a veil, and from men's side protecting your eyes over staring at girls. There is no meaning in debating on your own views or perspectives, when you are not following some basic rules and regulations. Your views matter when you are following your religion first. Both for Men and Women.
15:28 Boys is bary mai boht specific hoty hain k un ko kon si baat kis se karni hai, wo haar baat awen he kisi lrki ya even kisi boy se bhi share nahi krty,,,, Boht he close jisay feel krty hain wo apni baat usi se share krty hain, Boht si asi batain hoti hain jo ap ghr par share nahi kr sakty bata nahi sakty wo ap close friends k sath he share krty hain
Bhai you talk about islam and you are sitting with the girls without any parda even they are not wearing a scarf, this is a constructive criticism i hope you'll take it in a positive way.
Got the point and its valid . But i think the problem is the separation of left and right for over a century that led us to this stage and if we keep seperating the left and right its gonna end up real bad like in the west these days so we have to keep them tech them the right way if we want to change the society .. and just for sake of argument women are sitting in corners and he is looking at camera mostly as in the start he asked one of the girl to keep looking at the camera .. also if he deviates ..pretty sure his wife also gonna be watching the podcast so its gonna be umm..😂
Human being is a beautiful creature from all but when human against and break the nature law, then human always fail.Its my own perspective.May be it's true or false
🛑 objectifying women 🛑 telling them what to wear and what not to wear 🛑 ordering them around 🛑 cheating on your girlfriends and wives 🛑 disrespecting women period! 🛑 telling them what to do and what not to do
54:02 this is pure feminine nature, and it is a good thing, and Islam respects this nature of women. But people do not understand because they have been drifted away from their nature.
It's like living in a world of your own making. Men = Animal. Wasn't he saying that men feel the need to protect women. As Muslims aren't we supposed to protect women regardless of their relationship with us.
Log keh rahe hai ke ladke agaye abbu banne comments me parde ka batane! Par koi ye kyun nai pooch raha ke in ladkiyon ke abbu ne kyun nai kaha inhe parde ka?
The argument over boundaries is good and must be established for both genders through the institution's guidelines that in turn should flow from the state as an Islamic representative. The idea of consent is ridiculous. There is no need for consent when boundaries have been set beforehand unless the person wishes to extend those boundaries and not diminish them to get away with indecency regardless of whether it is between agreeing or disagreeing adults.
Recently you guys made some amazing intellectual podcasts with amazing guests and knowledge to gain. Please now dont make low quality podcasts with useless content
59:35 Well there is a point about underestimation than there is I think physical aspect that's why the male psychology working that way because male are calculating everyone back in their heads to take down and when it comes to female they are making estimation on how well a person is emotionally engaging.
27:02 I dont know in mohtarhma ka pala kasy boys se para hai lekin lag ye raha hai k, in mai Mashallah kafi attitude hai or thori si self obsessed bhi hain, Ya boys ko le kr in ki knowledge boht kam hai. Agar ap ka boys se itna interection hai he nahi to ap ko ye kis ne kaha hai k boys se un k parents kuch puchty nahi ya un ko ye kaha jata hai k wo ghr jaldi ain ya na ain. maine apny circle mai jitnay bhi boys dekhy hain event mai khud beshak late bhi ana ho ghr 11 bjt call ani shuru ho jati hain k beta g kab ana hai. 30 Saal ka ho gya hu shadi ho gai hai ab ami k sath sath ghr mai Begum ko bhi bata kr jana hota hai yaha ja raha hu or is time pr au ga....
A lot of Girls are saying "Larkoon ko abu bannay ka bht shauk hay" humei koi shauk nhe hay kisi ko toknay ka magar yeh humari zimmedari hay as Allah said in Quran, Surah Ali Imran 110 "You are the best community ever raised for humanity-you encourage good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah." Humara kaam bta dyna hay, taa kay Marnay kaay baad koi yeh na kahe kay humaray paas ko phnchanay wala nhe aya, ya khud humsay he sawal na ho jaye kay tum sab jaan kr bhe chup he rhay
Bhai kitne aise ladke jo ladkiyon ko toktay hain, woh koi signal tode ya seat belt na lagaaye ya helmet na pehne unko toktay hain? And jab literally illegal kaam karne pe logon ko nahi toktay toh phir sirf ladkiyon ko kyun toktay hain? Kyunki unpe bas chal sakta hai. Bhai aap apne kaam se kaam rakho dusro ki akhirat ki rakhwale na bano. Koi illegal kaam ho rha hai toh theek hai aap kisi ko bhi toko. But, jo cheezein illegal nahin hain aur insaan apni marzi se karta hai usko karne do. Baaki Allah aur unke beech mein hai apko haq nahi hai taang adaane ka
@@samlee3039 Acha mtlb yeh kay kay jo cheez gov kahe woh ap kr saktay ho or jo gov mana kry woh nhe kr saktay???? Gov is not our Rab, jo Authority or status Allah ka hay woh hum gov ko nhe day sakty
ssaimm ask him if he willing to take responsibility ke agar qayamat ke din Allah sawal kare ke tumhare samne ye sab chal raha tha to tumne kuch kyu nahi kara will he intervene and say ke yes maine ssaim bhai ko mana kara tha
@@mohammad.ssaimmBhai Kuch cheezen aisi Hain Jo Allah ne khud optional rakhi Hain wo aapka masla nhi hona chahiye aur Kuch matters private bhi hotey Hain isliye kabhi kabhi chup rehna chahiye aise Tou aurton ne bhi nabi k zamane me Deen ki dawat di Hain par kisi ladki ne ladke ko Toka k Tum bank me Q job karte ho Sood Q khate ho Q k ye unka matter hi nhi hai.. Tou isliye kahin chup hojana chahiye aur kahin par bolna chahiye
@@rabiasheikh5949 Allah nay kab kaha kay Parda rkho ya na rkho marzi hay, Allah nay kab kaha kay Soodi job kro ya na kro marzi hay, apni taraf say hum khud he optional keh nhe skty, What we can do is apni ami say kahen ami prda kara krein, behn say kahen prda kara kro, wife say kahen prda kara kro (agr ho tou), dooston say kahen kay ghr walon ko smjhao, this is the only thing we can do, we aren't forcing anyone or pushing anyone to this.
It is totallay wrong that a person dont get attention then they start finding opposite gender 😅😅yes you do look for someone with whom you share all of your hurdles but that is the friend with whom u even share the love relation stories too .. there are many people who belongs to middle class families and even their family bounding is so frank and open but still they are has many opposite gemder close relations..
Well, I think there needs to be a work on the video title. Be smart, change it to something more attractive. Campus culture discussion with women is nice enough.
All they do is contradict themselves with in a few sentences to each other, that they deliver all on their own. The questions are not even difficult. How do they pass university???
@muhammadomar784 well said. It's sad that English has become a status symbol in Pakistan. People forget that even a janitor speaks English in the West.
I feel what you are saying but sometimes certain emotions just automatically make you switch to a different language like i switch to punjabi in gusa and urdu when i am calm and English when i am excited lol
محترم! ایسے ہی ہے،شاید یہ ہماری معاشرتی زندگی میں رواج کی شکل اختیار کر چکا ہے کہ انگریزی بولنے سے سننے والوں پر اپنا اثر چھوڑنا چاہا رہے ہوتے ہیں۔اور بدقسمتی سے یہ بات سچ بھی ہے۔
@readmydescription5533 This can only happen when u don't know urdu and is often the case with kids from English medium schools. Anyway, I don't have anything against them, but I wish people should stop treating urdu as a lesser language.
I think coexistence is very normal in high class societies but at the end you can see that high class societies also involved in many filthy things and even though those things then revolving in the minor level in to middle class i dont think this is the solution .. as per me the solution is that every kid must have keen knowledge of Islam and Islamic boundries until they dont really know their creator and the reasons of islic boundries between gender until that u cant solve the things out
Most of the boys seeing their own sisters, mothers well modest support conservative approach. Same time the girls are mostly wanting liberalism. But the same men who shout for culture and traditions become attracted to liberal girls because they found them talkative, interactive and beautiful. To put it simple, both perspectives are just providing benefits to respective genders. But for all men if they are supporting liberalism, you should remember your sister and mother. The conservative thinking that under-estimates girls than boys in rural or desi families where people are sad on daughter's birth and happy on boy's is never appreciable. Same time neither gender should be allowed to do anything immoral. It's not like it's going OKAY for boys and bad for girls. Equally for both. But boys being somehow less expressive before girls might violently express or undergo something immoral if they find some girl appreciating their bad habit or desiring the same. This is dangerous. Because mostly these boys are eyeing the girls' acceptance and their appreciation for their greatness.
Well this podcast was quite pleasant to listen and easy to digest if compared to the previous panel that discussed about men and their issues around women. They all seemed quite compose and not like the previous discussion at all where they simply wanted men to disappear from the existence. Please bring similar panel in the future for such talks as a guy I do not mind listening to the truth but they way the truth is delivered matters a lot. The issues they have highlighted I have seen it whether it is a high class university or a professional place where women work under men. It is sad that it is 2023 and women are still not safe in this so called Islamic Society.
Bro even the previous panel never said that all man want to disappear honestly the main problem with the previous podcast ep was the another podcaster who was interrupting them which even two of the girls pointed out without the second podcaster the first ep could been really great or if he kept his composure by first listening then talking to them
Video is 'LEAST' about the campus culture. 😂 Its just three female students sharing their perspectives in dealings and interactions with Men. The thing wrong is they have too much acceptance with Mixing of Men and Women. Invite three male students from the same universities too....
تحریم کا یہ پوائنٹ بہت بہت مناسب ہے کہ جن لڑکوں سے بچانا ہے انکو ہر کوئی اپنے گھر میں اتنا چیک دیں نا جتنا لڑکوں کو دیتے ہیں۔ اگر لڑکے دیر تک گھر سے باہر ہیں تو لڑکی ہی غیر محفوظ ہے۔ ۔
V rightly said. Keeping check on girls all the time while complete no check on boys...is height of non sense....achi society uss waqt ho gi jab tarbiyat gender biased nahi ho gi
Why can’t we study in co education. Jis ne Gans dalna Hai wo Dalenge. We need our children boys and girls to be in the same room without thinking of sex. Or without dating, ect. Until we don’t normalise it our society will always wov wov on EACHOTHER. Look out country is failing, we need boys to accept girls as humans. Not sex objects. Also girls will know how to deal with men when they start working. What’s the point of uni’s if they aren’t going to work.
Niqabis ko bhi bulayain any uni or from Jameeat ect we want to see niqabis I think population of niqabis is also great so why we are not seeing them? Your prodcasts are great but these one are looking worse
Bawa ji I am a Ravian 2011: Tights and capri's are in full swing Boys be like: WTH ye tu mama winter mein shalwar k nechay pehnati thi. ye upper kese a gai? Its all the same across many campuses in Pakistan. Kawa chala hans ki chaal....BAWA JI
Also like please the host needs to challenge and question the ideas of the guests. Here the host is just agreeing to everything.. feminism promote karna hai to seedha uspar karlo like other low level podcasts which are echo channels of the guests
Literally is podcast ki reason sumj nhi i mujy or shyd or bhi kafi logon ka yhi kiyal ho ga! Agr ap ko campus culture he pata krna tha toh shyd un student ko bulna tha jo is sb min sy khud ko bcha k niklti hain. Yh EON ki trf sy acha gesture nhi tha🙂
Start mein hi mrd aur aurton ki segregation ko conservative soch keh rahy....😮😮😮afsoos hoa.... Aurton ko kam krny ki ijazt hai islam mein aur confident rehny ki bi.....lakin segregation to zaroori hai ......free mixing to islam mein kahin ni alkowed ....... Nzrein jhukha k rakhny ka hukm kyuon hai? Mrdon aur aurton ko??? Because Allah ko pta tha k kal ko aurton aur mrdon aik hi jga akhty kam krna hoga....to isi liay mrdon ko bola gia k wo nzr jhukha lein aur aurtein apni awaz ko beautify na krein ........ Herat hai mujy un so called Muslims pr jo nzr jukhany ko low confidence kehty Hain.......😢😢😢
I feel you guys are a little biased, oftentimes you present your opinions as facts & surprisingly no one questions that, even ppl from Lums are not pointing that out. Shouldn't you have a neutral stance as a host and not give your opinion because mostly we don't have people with a diverse range of opinions, seems like an echo chamber.
To the host: tameez seekhi jasakti hai agar chahein tou. Mard bhi insaan hotein hai, change is possible. Segregation can never be a solution. That's basically enabling shitty behavior and staying mediocre.
"Indeed, the lady with the scarf is a unique individual (Vakhri Makluk). Sara was the only one in the middle who articulated her point clearly and convincingly."
Some objections are- Girls makeup is too much. Use urdu instead of English Apparels of khwatein are not decent. Girl sitting in third side is having too much make-up All bibies came from elites Next time try to invite girls from lower class and discuss their economical issues. Host should throw triplets ids in below section.
Bhai apki Nazar gandi hai. As far as their apparel is concerned, what is 'not decent' about it? Mujhe toh bada decent lag rha hai. Apko kya cheez specifically decent nahi lag rhi? Kya apko sexual thoughts aa rhe hain inko dekh ke? Agar haan toh aap mein problem hai kapdon mein nahi. And apka makeup se kya Jaa rha hai? Apko kyun mirch lag rhi hai kisne kaisa makeup Kiya hai?
@@MasabAhmads we can see she is being so fake. jo insan co-edu mai parhta hai wo apny sath walo ki respect bhi krta hai or larkian asi nahi hoti or jo hoti hain un ki apni bhi koi friends nahi hoti
13:04 ap k ghr baap bhi hai bhai bhi hai ap ko boy ki zarurt nahi ok fine, Hum ne bhi university mai time guzara hai, or apni female class mates ki boundaries ki respect ki hai, jab ap k fone se Uber careem nahi ho rahi hoti to boys he hotspot dety hain, Jab exam se pehly apko book pen pencil cahiye hota hai or Uni ki book shop pr nahi mil raha hota to wo boys he hoty hain jo la kr dety hain ap k baap bhai nahi hoty us time. And i want to condeme this stupid word "ABU BAN RAHY HAIN" seriously whan an unmature word she is using again and again.
12:46 Yes he’s true & boys need to be implement on them before the preach but the girl in pink staff have some emotional scarves from boys back in university life.
@@readmydescription5533 Bro! These girls are the type jinko koi munh bhi ni laga ra hota but they are being byped up just bcoz inki koi khubsurat c dost hoti, ye bhi apny aapko utna he khobsurat smjhti hain
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Disclaimer: Before watching the podcast i just want to let you know that this one is Less about Campus culture and more about Genderings & Feminism (60/40)
Which really sucks
I wonder if Amanullah were hosting (or in the panel) then the whole discussion would be on next level presumably...!
This was way better
agree 100%
Sara, Tehreem, and Ayesha bring their unique perspectives as guests on the podcast. Their insights on university culture, women's rights, and Co education add depth to the discussions, making the podcast a compelling and worthwhile listen.
Please do a podcast on corporate culture from women's perspective
All of these things exist in corporate culture. Even worse, harassment is at its peak in corporate culture as well. Some women feel compelled to build disrespectful relationships with their bosses to get a few thousand rupees raise in salary and an unworthy job title as a promotion. Women who work within boundaries and in a respectful way are often not noticed, even if they are doing extraordinary work.
However, these girls who are still studying or have just graduated from universities seem very sensible and mature, which is uncommon in Gen Z. May Allah protect all women from harm and keep us safe and healthy with our families. Ameen.
I like diversity on the podcast but I love you ppl discussing global stufff.
you should also link the previous program if someone didn't get chance to watch that they can find in the descriptions.
Amazing content and beautiful discussion. Also consider making podcast on IT industry of Pakistan and its future outcome for Pakistan. Also invite someone from FAST, COMSATS, and PUC-IT
Still as muslim I say this that women should do more pardah and do everything with caution. Now you can take it either positive or negative
abe chal na
This is an interesting podcast channel,what I most like about this podcast is the diversity of topics being discussed and a guests from lots of different fields of life from students to sports analysts to MMA trainers to business people to scientists,a lot of interesting podcasts I have seen from it recently.
Kuch kaam editor ko bi kar lena chahiyah wese k upload karne se pehle jab edit kar raha hon tu audio levels up kar de taa ke hum loog tu sab ko samajh sakain.
We don't INTENTIONALLY humiliate women in the disguise of help. :) (at least I don't)
1:06:00 at the end, I'm a university graduate and the 4-year period was terrible. At first, females do not even recognize males. You can never judge what's going on in your male classmate's mind. In my 4-year-old university span, the females were extremely comfortable with the same boys who had the same mentality behind their backs that i couldn't imagine. I don't mind but you can't judge by anyone's looks. I am sure even today that they will be in touch even today. Even those girls longed to hang out with them. So my point is dont judge someone rapidly and give opinion
People doesn't want to listen what they're saying instead they're focusing why they're sitting without parda..When you read the quranic verse about veil it's mentioned " jab tum bahar niklo Apne cheron ko dhaank lo taaki tum satai na jao"...so face veil isn't compulsory all the time it's conditional..
we got an islamic scholar here guys who just gave the fatwah that pardah infront of non mehrams is totally permissible if its indoors
@@theredomarArey Bhai Jo bhi BAAT ho Yahan parde ki BAAT Kahan se aagayi woh keh kia rahin poore podcast me wo asal mudda hai..parda unka apna masla hai
@@theredomarI was talking about face veil but ya she should wear scarf at least..
Stop twisting deen for your secular agenda if you don't want to accept islam that's a different thing but stop twisting my religion
Very rightly said. Actually, mostly men in our society are not willing to accept women equally talented, out spoken, intelligent.
Pardah lai ker aa jaatay...none of your concern.
I agree with the point raised on 54:33, Its very important to bridge this gap earlier on in life. You cannot just expect people to know how to act with the opposite gender when you just throw them together suddenly in a workplace setting when they haven't had this experience before in life. Plus with age comes certain rigidity that changing perspectives becomes increasingly difficult.
The problem is that for their whole lives, kids have never interacted with the opposite gender and they create an image in their minds with the second hand knowledge from poor sources. And suddenly they are thrown into this melting pot of different people coming from different backgrounds and value systems, that are our universities. Some even dont have the luxury of co-ed institutes and directly land into the industry with 0 knowledge and nearly no experience in dealing with the other genders.
The solution boils down to de-taboo the interaction between genders. Teaching kids from a younger age about the basics of biology and how things work. Teaching them how to maintain a respectful interaction the other gender. And most importantly letting them know that this interaction isn't prohibited.
This problem can never be solved by expecting adults to suddenly change their perspectives. And definitely not by trying to limit their interaction even more. I believe in addition to having some sort of simplified "sex ed" education there should be more room for children to interact and grow together. Of course, with a certain degree of oversight. this is the only way we can shift our whole generation to be more focussed on bigger problems then having issues in maintaining basic relationships at work or at home.
But what about western societies that have already experimented this kind of educational system? Girls do get harmed in those societies. Co Ed is not the solution
Is everything is all right in high societies when the kids has co existence from ver starting ? I think those who has siblings in opposite gender already teaches from starting about the approach .
Hats off to the boys in the comments, hyper-focused on 'pardah,' but seems they missed the memo on making girls feel confident and comfortable. 'Larkon ko abbu banne ka boht shok' - well, that apparently explains it. Bravo, Abbu Patrol! 👏🕶️
Single mareinge ya kisi ki zindagi barbaad karenge
The diversity of content on this channel is ❤
Extreme liberal man is a threat to women, I am not saying every man, only "Extreme".
If not early but later every woman realizes it.
Because chances of exploitation increases in loose environment.
You can intellectually disagree with me.
extremist religious men also pose a threat to society at large
The crux of this podcast, as I understand it, is "Guys should try to see things from a girl's perspective as well, so they will automatically take a step back from dialogues like 'yae meri bandi hai.'"
Follow some religious concepts and rules and regulations, everything will be okay. Like protecting yourself under a veil, and from men's side protecting your eyes over staring at girls. There is no meaning in debating on your own views or perspectives, when you are not following some basic rules and regulations. Your views matter when you are following your religion first. Both for Men and Women.
Exactly 💯
15:28 Boys is bary mai boht specific hoty hain k un ko kon si baat kis se karni hai, wo haar baat awen he kisi lrki ya even kisi boy se bhi share nahi krty,,,, Boht he close jisay feel krty hain wo apni baat usi se share krty hain, Boht si asi batain hoti hain jo ap ghr par share nahi kr sakty bata nahi sakty wo ap close friends k sath he share krty hain
Bhai you talk about islam and you are sitting with the girls without any parda even they are not wearing a scarf, this is a constructive criticism i hope you'll take it in a positive way.
Got the point and its valid . But i think the problem is the separation of left and right for over a century that led us to this stage and if we keep seperating the left and right its gonna end up real bad like in the west these days so we have to keep them tech them the right way if we want to change the society .. and just for sake of argument women are sitting in corners and he is looking at camera mostly as in the start he asked one of the girl to keep looking at the camera .. also if he deviates ..pretty sure his wife also gonna be watching the podcast so its gonna be umm..😂
Jee ye tou khula tazaad hai Umar bhai
Why are you watching namehram girls????????? Where’s your hijaab
@@efdiscovers3666 aadat se majboor brother
Go and spend time in universities then tell me what is hijab 😂
Human being is a beautiful creature from all but when human against and break the nature law, then human always fail.Its my own perspective.May be it's true or false
God made laws are perfect.
Damn trueeee
sir what about you invite 3 men from different unis and share their perspective
🛑 objectifying women
🛑 telling them what to wear and what not to wear
🛑 ordering them around
🛑 cheating on your girlfriends and wives
🛑 disrespecting women period!
🛑 telling them what to do and what not to do
Abbu bannay agaye log parday ki baatain karnay 😂😂😂😂
Inka Islam sirf aurton par pabandiyan lagana hai parde par shuru hota hai aur chadar chaar devari mein khatam.
sarah has some wisdom and a soothing voice
54:02 this is pure feminine nature, and it is a good thing, and Islam respects this nature of women.
But people do not understand because they have been drifted away from their nature.
25:53 Mard agar beast hai and they are not safe for any buddy phr to sab se pehly ap k ghr waly khatray hain hain wo bhi ap se.. Right...?
It's like living in a world of your own making. Men = Animal.
Wasn't he saying that men feel the need to protect women. As Muslims aren't we supposed to protect women regardless of their relationship with us.
Log keh rahe hai ke ladke agaye abbu banne comments me parde ka batane! Par koi ye kyun nai pooch raha ke in ladkiyon ke abbu ne kyun nai kaha inhe parde ka?
Please do again a podcast with a private school teacher.
if these are the mothers of our future generation we are so doomed
We are already boss
The argument over boundaries is good and must be established for both genders through the institution's guidelines that in turn should flow from the state as an Islamic representative. The idea of consent is ridiculous. There is no need for consent when boundaries have been set beforehand unless the person wishes to extend those boundaries and not diminish them to get away with indecency regardless of whether it is between agreeing or disagreeing adults.
Recently you guys made some amazing intellectual podcasts with amazing guests and knowledge to gain. Please now dont make low quality podcasts with useless content
Agreed
Agreed really disappointed
59:35 Well there is a point about underestimation than there is I think physical aspect that's why the male psychology working that way because male are calculating everyone back in their heads to take down and when it comes to female they are making estimation on how well a person is emotionally engaging.
Ayesha the reason nobody approached you were not the the boundaries.🤣
27:02 I dont know in mohtarhma ka pala kasy boys se para hai lekin lag ye raha hai k, in mai Mashallah kafi attitude hai or thori si self obsessed bhi hain, Ya boys ko le kr in ki knowledge boht kam hai. Agar ap ka boys se itna interection hai he nahi to ap ko ye kis ne kaha hai k boys se un k parents kuch puchty nahi ya un ko ye kaha jata hai k wo ghr jaldi ain ya na ain. maine apny circle mai jitnay bhi boys dekhy hain event mai khud beshak late bhi ana ho ghr 11 bjt call ani shuru ho jati hain k beta g kab ana hai. 30 Saal ka ho gya hu shadi ho gai hai ab ami k sath sath ghr mai Begum ko bhi bata kr jana hota hai yaha ja raha hu or is time pr au ga....
Majority cases mein boys aren't asked to give explanations as compared to women. It's a fact. Do your research.
Bhai mere Mic tu Girls ka pass kar diya karo yah koller mic use kar liya karoo. banda aab vol up and down h karta rahe sari video mea
Do one with someone from Aitchison, LGS, and LAS
We need amaan bhai or asad bhai
Well done girls but I’m expecting way more from you
A lot of Girls are saying "Larkoon ko abu bannay ka bht shauk hay" humei koi shauk nhe hay kisi ko toknay ka
magar yeh humari zimmedari hay as Allah said in Quran, Surah Ali Imran 110
"You are the best community ever raised for humanity-you encourage good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah."
Humara kaam bta dyna hay, taa kay Marnay kaay baad koi yeh na kahe kay humaray paas ko phnchanay wala nhe aya, ya khud humsay he sawal na ho jaye kay tum sab jaan kr bhe chup he rhay
Bhai kitne aise ladke jo ladkiyon ko toktay hain, woh koi signal tode ya seat belt na lagaaye ya helmet na pehne unko toktay hain?
And jab literally illegal kaam karne pe logon ko nahi toktay toh phir sirf ladkiyon ko kyun toktay hain?
Kyunki unpe bas chal sakta hai.
Bhai aap apne kaam se kaam rakho dusro ki akhirat ki rakhwale na bano.
Koi illegal kaam ho rha hai toh theek hai aap kisi ko bhi toko.
But, jo cheezein illegal nahin hain aur insaan apni marzi se karta hai usko karne do. Baaki Allah aur unke beech mein hai apko haq nahi hai taang adaane ka
@@samlee3039 Acha mtlb yeh kay kay jo cheez gov kahe woh ap kr saktay ho or jo gov mana kry woh nhe kr saktay????
Gov is not our Rab, jo Authority or status Allah ka hay woh hum gov ko nhe day sakty
ssaimm ask him if he willing to take responsibility ke agar qayamat ke din Allah sawal kare ke tumhare samne ye sab chal raha tha to tumne kuch kyu nahi kara will he intervene and say ke yes maine ssaim bhai ko mana kara tha
@@mohammad.ssaimmBhai Kuch cheezen aisi Hain Jo Allah ne khud optional rakhi Hain wo aapka masla nhi hona chahiye aur Kuch matters private bhi hotey Hain isliye kabhi kabhi chup rehna chahiye aise Tou aurton ne bhi nabi k zamane me Deen ki dawat di Hain par kisi ladki ne ladke ko Toka k Tum bank me Q job karte ho Sood Q khate ho Q k ye unka matter hi nhi hai.. Tou isliye kahin chup hojana chahiye aur kahin par bolna chahiye
@@rabiasheikh5949 Allah nay kab kaha kay Parda rkho ya na rkho marzi hay, Allah nay kab kaha kay Soodi job kro ya na kro marzi hay, apni taraf say hum khud he optional keh nhe skty, What we can do is apni ami say kahen ami prda kara krein, behn say kahen prda kara kro, wife say kahen prda kara kro (agr ho tou), dooston say kahen kay ghr walon ko smjhao, this is the only thing we can do, we aren't forcing anyone or pushing anyone to this.
Sir Sahi Adeem ki daughter ko bulayain
It is totallay wrong that a person dont get attention then they start finding opposite gender 😅😅yes you do look for someone with whom you share all of your hurdles but that is the friend with whom u even share the love relation stories too .. there are many people who belongs to middle class families and even their family bounding is so frank and open but still they are has many opposite gemder close relations..
Well, I think there needs to be a work on the video title. Be smart, change it to something more attractive.
Campus culture discussion with women is nice enough.
All they do is contradict themselves with in a few sentences to each other, that they deliver all on their own. The questions are not even difficult. How do they pass university???
Please Invite Khalid Mehmood Abbasi SB in your podcast
The title of this podcast should be: “The bitching & rants about boys & jealousy with their independence”
😂 had me laughing lol
Title should be how to hate men’s because they have penis and we didn’t have
I always enjoy diversity of opinion. I wish Pakistanis could stick to either english or urdu during public speaking. Ajeeb!
yaar eng urdu both are part of society now we even launched a new language called urdish
@muhammadomar784 well said. It's sad that English has become a status symbol in Pakistan. People forget that even a janitor speaks English in the West.
I feel what you are saying but sometimes certain emotions just automatically make you switch to a different language like i switch to punjabi in gusa and urdu when i am calm and English when i am excited lol
محترم!
ایسے ہی ہے،شاید یہ ہماری معاشرتی زندگی میں رواج کی شکل اختیار کر چکا ہے کہ انگریزی بولنے سے سننے والوں پر اپنا اثر چھوڑنا چاہا رہے ہوتے ہیں۔اور بدقسمتی سے یہ بات سچ بھی ہے۔
@readmydescription5533 This can only happen when u don't know urdu and is often the case with kids from English medium schools. Anyway, I don't have anything against them, but I wish people should stop treating urdu as a lesser language.
I think coexistence is very normal in high class societies but at the end you can see that high class societies also involved in many filthy things and even though those things then revolving in the minor level in to middle class i dont think this is the solution .. as per me the solution is that every kid must have keen knowledge of Islam and Islamic boundries until they dont really know their creator and the reasons of islic boundries between gender until that u cant solve the things out
Exactly 💯
Most of the boys seeing their own sisters, mothers well modest support conservative approach. Same time the girls are mostly wanting liberalism. But the same men who shout for culture and traditions become attracted to liberal girls because they found them talkative, interactive and beautiful. To put it simple, both perspectives are just providing benefits to respective genders. But for all men if they are supporting liberalism, you should remember your sister and mother. The conservative thinking that under-estimates girls than boys in rural or desi families where people are sad on daughter's birth and happy on boy's is never appreciable. Same time neither gender should be allowed to do anything immoral. It's not like it's going OKAY for boys and bad for girls. Equally for both. But boys being somehow less expressive before girls might violently express or undergo something immoral if they find some girl appreciating their bad habit or desiring the same. This is dangerous. Because mostly these boys are eyeing the girls' acceptance and their appreciation for their greatness.
Well this podcast was quite pleasant to listen and easy to digest if compared to the previous panel that discussed about men and their issues around women. They all seemed quite compose and not like the previous discussion at all where they simply wanted men to disappear from the existence. Please bring similar panel in the future for such talks as a guy I do not mind listening to the truth but they way the truth is delivered matters a lot. The issues they have highlighted I have seen it whether it is a high class university or a professional place where women work under men. It is sad that it is 2023 and women are still not safe in this so called Islamic Society.
Bro even the previous panel never said that all man want to disappear honestly the main problem with the previous podcast ep was the another podcaster who was interrupting them which even two of the girls pointed out without the second podcaster the first ep could been really great or if he kept his composure by first listening then talking to them
Video is 'LEAST' about the campus culture. 😂
Its just three female students sharing their perspectives in dealings and interactions with Men.
The thing wrong is they have too much acceptance with Mixing of Men and Women.
Invite three male students from the same universities too....
26:57 farig arguments boys can easily defend themselves and woh harrasment wala argument boys pai apply nahi hot they dont get harassed
Dumbass spotted
Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it hasn't happened to anyone.
There are many guys who get abused and harassed in Pakistan.
@@Invinciblebeingstill less vulnerable than girls
تحریم کا یہ پوائنٹ بہت بہت مناسب ہے کہ جن لڑکوں سے بچانا ہے انکو ہر کوئی اپنے گھر میں اتنا چیک دیں نا جتنا لڑکوں کو دیتے ہیں۔ اگر لڑکے دیر تک گھر سے باہر ہیں تو لڑکی ہی غیر محفوظ ہے۔ ۔
اپنے پیروں پر پانی نہیں ڈالتیں آپ لوگ، سارا مسلئہ ہی یہاں سے شروع ہوتا! 😂
V rightly said.
Keeping check on girls all the time while complete no check on boys...is height of non sense....achi society uss waqt ho gi jab tarbiyat gender biased nahi ho gi
Why can’t we study in co education. Jis ne Gans dalna Hai wo Dalenge. We need our children boys and girls to be in the same room without thinking of sex. Or without dating, ect. Until we don’t normalise it our society will always wov wov on EACHOTHER. Look out country is failing, we need boys to accept girls as humans. Not sex objects. Also girls will know how to deal with men when they start working. What’s the point of uni’s if they aren’t going to work.
Is it possible by nature to avoid this?
What’s the point of uni if they aren’t going to work? 🤡
the host is well mannered and so is the LUMINITE.
I feel male students should also be Included in the Discussion and Yk let em put their side on the table aswell
most of the older generation does not respect women and the younger generation or now generation are mixed, some respect women some do not.
True af
We do not want to see such podcasts from Eon platform. Please
Men campus culture? Any video on that
Where is amaan
We have heard 2 Podcast on the Women Side would be interesting to hear what is the other side of the story as well.
Amaan Bhai
Please defend us here
I feel like males are being attacked here and you would represent our interests best here
What specific things do you feel attacked by? Because nearly everything they say makes a lot of sense and is based upon truth
@@samlee3039 keep silence please tumhe toh Maza aa raha hoga ,tum male Mahi ho na
Reality is reality. Learn to not take things personally instead improve your behavior.
Now boys side as well
missing Aman
Sir Zeeshan k sath again podcast kren
Niqabis ko bhi bulayain any uni or from Jameeat ect we want to see niqabis I think population of niqabis is also great so why we are not seeing them? Your prodcasts are great but these one are looking worse
This makes me realise how practical women are compared to men.
Feels like they minus islam from their discussions
Bawa ji I am a Ravian
2011: Tights and capri's are in full swing
Boys be like: WTH ye tu mama winter mein shalwar k nechay pehnati thi. ye upper kese a gai?
Its all the same across many campuses in Pakistan. Kawa chala hans ki chaal....BAWA JI
Also like please the host needs to challenge and question the ideas of the guests. Here the host is just agreeing to everything.. feminism promote karna hai to seedha uspar karlo like other low level podcasts which are echo channels of the guests
Agreed
Yaar eon wasn't like this somedays ago myjhe to is host me masla lagta he
Last part was much more informative and mature
Why they talk like party ho Rahi girl
wheres amanullah ?
Literally is podcast ki reason sumj nhi i mujy or shyd or bhi kafi logon ka yhi kiyal ho ga!
Agr ap ko campus culture he pata krna tha toh shyd un student ko bulna tha jo is sb min sy khud ko bcha k niklti hain.
Yh EON ki trf sy acha gesture nhi tha🙂
You should also invite boys and get their point of view
Very wrong thing to say - it’s the responsibility of the state to ensure safety at large so that a woman can step out in the night -
Jo 2 mic khareed leta podcast shuru😂😂
Start mein hi mrd aur aurton ki segregation ko conservative soch keh rahy....😮😮😮afsoos hoa....
Aurton ko kam krny ki ijazt hai islam mein aur confident rehny ki bi.....lakin segregation to zaroori hai ......free mixing to islam mein kahin ni alkowed .......
Nzrein jhukha k rakhny ka hukm kyuon hai? Mrdon aur aurton ko??? Because Allah ko pta tha k kal ko aurton aur mrdon aik hi jga akhty kam krna hoga....to isi liay mrdon ko bola gia k wo nzr jhukha lein aur aurtein apni awaz ko beautify na krein ........
Herat hai mujy un so called Muslims pr jo nzr jukhany ko low confidence kehty Hain.......😢😢😢
I feel you guys are a little biased, oftentimes you present your opinions as facts & surprisingly no one questions that, even ppl from Lums are not pointing that out.
Shouldn't you have a neutral stance as a host and not give your opinion because mostly we don't have people with a diverse range of opinions, seems like an echo chamber.
ہم دیسی مسئلوں سے کب نکلیں گے
اگر دنیا کے کسی ملک کے کریم تعلیمی اداروں کی اس عمر کی طالبات مسائل ڈسکس کریں تو کیا وہ یہ ڈسکس کریں گی؟
To the host: tameez seekhi jasakti hai agar chahein tou. Mard bhi insaan hotein hai, change is possible. Segregation can never be a solution. That's basically enabling shitty behavior and staying mediocre.
Compare to last podcast this one had far healthy disscussion
Ammanullah major missing ❤
Please try to invite khalid mehmood abbasi
Oman Bhai ko miss kr rahy hai es podcast ma
"Indeed, the lady with the scarf is a unique individual (Vakhri Makluk). Sara was the only one in the middle who articulated her point clearly and convincingly."
Blue shirt is so pretty ❤❤
Some objections are-
Girls makeup is too much.
Use urdu instead of English
Apparels of khwatein are not decent.
Girl sitting in third side is having too much make-up
All bibies came from elites
Next time try to invite girls from lower class and discuss their economical issues.
Host should throw triplets ids in below section.
Bhai apki Nazar gandi hai.
As far as their apparel is concerned, what is 'not decent' about it?
Mujhe toh bada decent lag rha hai.
Apko kya cheez specifically decent nahi lag rhi? Kya apko sexual thoughts aa rhe hain inko dekh ke? Agar haan toh aap mein problem hai kapdon mein nahi.
And apka makeup se kya Jaa rha hai? Apko kyun mirch lag rhi hai kisne kaisa makeup Kiya hai?
@@samlee3039 tu koun ae? tenu ki takleef ho rhi hai ?
@@naveddhillon2686bhai aap kon ho aur yahan likhne kee ijazat kis ne dee hai ?
I m among audience
@@naveddhillon2686 So am I idiot.
54:04 Mujy to hyrani hai ye UMT wali behan abhi Male cousins k sath bhi asy he react krti ho gi. Itni itnii insecurity,. Job kasy karay gi ye bandi
I think yeh just podcast m he esi bn rhi hein real life m opposite scene hoga
@@MasabAhmads we can see she is being so fake. jo insan co-edu mai parhta hai wo apny sath walo ki respect bhi krta hai or larkian asi nahi hoti or jo hoti hain un ki apni bhi koi friends nahi hoti
She just shared her experience relax lol
Wah keya baat hai aik Taraf islamic khilafat ki batain karty Hain or islamic Nizam Hona chaeyai or 😢😢
یہ والی کلاس کا بھی پاکستان میں "اک وکھڑہ ی جہاں ہے"
Haha
sensible talk.
13:04 ap k ghr baap bhi hai bhai bhi hai ap ko boy ki zarurt nahi ok fine, Hum ne bhi university mai time guzara hai, or apni female class mates ki boundaries ki respect ki hai, jab ap k fone se Uber careem nahi ho rahi hoti to boys he hotspot dety hain, Jab exam se pehly apko book pen pencil cahiye hota hai or Uni ki book shop pr nahi mil raha hota to wo boys he hoty hain jo la kr dety hain ap k baap bhai nahi hoty us time. And i want to condeme this stupid word "ABU BAN RAHY HAIN" seriously whan an unmature word she is using again and again.
UCP ki tiktoker awaam ko bhi zara bulain
Pls invite niqabi influencers
Purple wali sbse fit h :p campus life hahaha
8:29 What a start! Rants about what boys do how boys are! Lol. The brain they got altogether is slightly brighter than a talking parrot.
12:46 Yes he’s true & boys need to be implement on them before the preach but the girl in pink staff have some emotional scarves from boys back in university life.
Excellent analysis😂(engineer reference) lol
@@readmydescription5533 Bro! These girls are the type jinko koi munh bhi ni laga ra hota but they are being byped up just bcoz inki koi khubsurat c dost hoti, ye bhi apny aapko utna he khobsurat smjhti hain
@@architectworld786 the only topic they have is how boys are so evil. Inferiority complex
what bout fccu..
Boring Boring Boring!
Especially without Amaan Bhai!