Why is EVERYONE Using Two Different Strings in Their Racquet?
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Why are pro's like Ben Shelton and Casper Ruud using two different polyester strings in their racquets? Should you hybrid two different poly's? How did poly-poly hybrids begin? What is the best tennis string?
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00:00 Pro's Are Using Pol-Poly Hybrids
00:29 Origin Story
01:01 The Max Spin Meta
01:44 Con's of Max Spin
02:33 The Holy Grail of SPIN
03:25 Square X Sharp/Zero Review
06:17 Zero vs Wasabi X as a Cross
07:13 Hyper-G Round
08:05 Tension Maintenance Comparison
09:03 HGR v Wasabi X
09:57 The BEST Crosses
11:05 How to Find YOUR Best Hybrid
13:31 The Search for Greatness
14:16 The BEST Mains
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3:40-6:05 is the greatest 2 minutes in tennis youtube history and there isn’t a close second. I laughed my ass off. My brother, who didn’t even know it was possible to change strings in a tennis racquet, was also laughing his ass off.
Just in case you read this one punch; Because you change around racquets, strings and tensions, it will take a very long time to get the correct benefit from any hybrid. The board of players and their string setups was really interesting. But at any rate, I've been hybriding for about 15 years in an effort to save money on Champion's choice and here's where I've landed and why.
* So right off the bat I'm in a different world than a hard hitting 5.0 playing Big Banger in a Pure Drive. My racquet setup has dropped to a SW of 315, I"m playing the Shift 300 99.
* My holy grail of string setup would be a little of everything, but it has to be comfortable. My bed needs to give me spin when I want it, control always and a bit of pop. In the hybird game you can dial in any level of pocketing you desire, but I've learned that a bit of crispness and some pocketing are ideal for control. Too much pocketing might feel great on the arm, but many balls will go into the net.
So here's what works and what doesn't:
Works: Mid range tension. Mains: Power, spin, not too stiff. Crosses: control, comfort.
Does not work: Weird tensions might start off ok but change constantly and you'll get lost. The exception is if one string loses a bunch of tension quickly and then settles (Game changer comes to mind). Mains: too stiff and under powered given the climate. I can play Head Lynx Tour in the summer but not the winter. Crosses: I think the selection of crosses is the most important variable in the hybrid setup, here's what doesn't work for me: #1 high power or very slippery strings like Ghost Wire or Cream. These kinds of crosses result in terrible launch and no control. Finding one that works is not easy, but I have 2 that I can count on. They're both poly's, stiffer (lower power) and not overly slick.
Right now it's winter, I'm playing in 40-60 degree buildings, my strings are Ghost Wire or Game changer in the mains, Isospeed v18 or Tec Ice Code in the crosses. Either string at about 50.
Fantastic--creativity, humor, and insight all in a single video! Great job guys...
Great video. I think it would be funny to try to recreate the spaghetti string setup Cult Tennis featured
i could try doing it on my Bolt 100... then you'd have spag + suspension for maximum cowabunga
@@TennComI'm suing if you don't
@@TennComI disagree, you have to add the tomato paste for the extra bite on the ball. Just don’t break the strings during play otherwise fogini will get upset (don’t break pasta)
@@TennCom Please do it
I love how the biggest gag off this channel
is when Beckett continuously gets abruptly cuttoff in every video...
*"BY HIMSELF"*
-Chungus Cuttalingus
I first went to a hybrid setup after I noticed it was working so well for Federer, and I still use the same natural gut/poly setup today!
Natural GOAT
Best tennis UA-cam video ever.
I’m planning to test confidential on the main and polytour pro on the cross
Following this vid I went out and tried this on my VCorePro97 and Percept 97, went hyperG mains at 54lb and hyperG Round in cross at 50lb. Holy moly the feeling on the back hand is so nice. Lively but not harsh, less plough than all regular hyperG and felt super stable. Excited to keep tinkering
I just subscribed because of this. You’re both actually very good actors, like legit.
i did have to cut out at least 30 minutes of laughing but thank you we did our best
🤣 Incredible! You make Netflix look like amateurs. Girty, raw, provoking, palpable emotions emitting from the screen 👍👍 loved it
I have been using two types of strings in my racquets since 1990s my dude. I use a 16g gut on my mains, and 17g topspin strings on my crosses. I usually get my crosses strung 4lbs lighter than my mains. But I was playing with the Wilson Profiles 95 and those racquets eat up strings. Great job on the video my friend.
Hyper g soft mains and ice code cross. Lovely in the Percept 100! Full bed hgs feels mushy at times and not connected to shots. Round cross fixes all of that with good spin and power. Still great control!
What are your thoughts on string tension differentials in a poly poly hybrid Beckett? Assuming you put a shaped stiffer string in the mains and a soft smooth poly in the crosses do you find the playability improves? If you have a differential between means and crosses and if so, how much?
Hey guys. Your channel is really cool. I'm thinking about making a hybrid with the game changer (main) and sniper tour (cross), and/or game changer (main) and M8 (cross). Do you think it would be a good mix for spin but at the same time have control in terms of ball direction, consistency, predictability? Blade V9 16x19. I like angles, variations, entering the court more than staying at the bottom and spinning too high (hence the "obsession" with direction lol). I'm looking for more control, not so much spin. Do you have any suggestions using these mentioned strings?
Hi. You should have tried hyper g / hyper g round. ❤
Yesterday I watched Conor Casey’s video about gut and today I find this. Truly a double shot of tennis wisdom. 🇨🇦
Any link for the video you are referring to?
Great vid - Never heard you mention it, but have you tried Still In Black strings? Their Select particularly....it was all the rage of the local university tennis team here a few years back. I think it's from France(?). Cheers!
I have heard of them, but never tried. Didn't find much about them when I researched a few months ago when someone else brought them up.
I've been using a hybrid poly setup for the last 2 years. I went from using a full bed of Hyper G 17 gauge on a Pure Aero 2019 to using Hyper G 17 gauge in the mains and IsoSpeed Spin 17 gauge in the crosses. I found that Hyper G was just too stiff and lacked too much power as a full bed. With the IsoSpeed Spin 17 in the cross I find that I get snap back with the Hyper G like never before, more control and more power with the different cross. Plus, I haven't felt like I lost any spin potential.
Looking to try a new poly with good tension maintenance for a pure aero. Any recommendations? (currently using full bed of lynx tour)
Love the racket rack you have in the back of your videos! Can I ask is it custom made or if you bought it from somewhere and if so what's i called.
I rigged up some Ikea Ivar shelves to make it work for me
Aloha Beckett,
I love your creativity and the drama was DRAMATIC! I was waiting to see if tears were going to start flowing down your face! 😢
On the serious side, have you ever tried a thick-thin poly/poly hybrid setup? Like a 17g main and 18g cross, or a 16g/17g?
I've been using this thick-thin setup for a while now and believe it can combine the best of both worlds. In my opinion (theory), there are three benefits.
1) Since the mains are the "working strings," you get durability and control from the thicker main strings.
2) Since the crosses are the "supporting strings," you get more power from the thinner strings.
3) The spin potential is enhanced, with the thicker mains "popping out" of the string bed due to the thinner crosses, allowing the main strings to grab the ball more (string-to-ball friction), while the thinner cross string will allow for more snapback (string-to-string friction).
As for a main string, would you consider a (uniform) textured string like Babolat RPM Rough 17? I've been using this as a main string because of its decent tension maintenance and spin potential, combined with an 18-gauge round or very slightly shaped cross string. I feel the uniform textured string creates a more "pocketing" feel as opposed to a round string that feels like it "takes off."
Anyway, food for thought! 🤙
As per your typical genius, you've already predicted next steps, which I'm currently testing. Tour Bite Diamond Rough 16/new ReString 18. Great ball bite without the launchiness of a shaped string and without the poor snapback of a full bed of rough.
@@TennCom Cool! Can't wait to check out that video! 🤙
hey beckett love the videos. i ended up w the whiteout xtd 18x20 after demoing a bajillion 98's. Aside from the hyper g tourna silver 7 hybrid you mentioned in here, what's been your favorite string setups for it?
Grapplesnake Tour M8 is the string I'd choose for that frame if my life depended on it
i'm currently using the hyper G on the main and hyper G round on the cross
I tried Babolat natural gut in the mains and alu rough in the crosses and never looked back. Can't sacrifice the feel, comfort, and power. one of those things where you get what you pay for and you can clearly feel the advantage of natural gut.
the Gut Advantage strikes again
I use hybrid as well with gut vs touch and rpm blast. I have gut on the main on one, and crosses on the other. I love them both.
Who needs steroids when we have nat gut! 😂
I am happy with RF97 and super smash orange 1.23 all balls in predictable and durable.
Review the hybrid of ReString Zero and ReString Sync
Have you tried natural gut in the mains? How do you like that? What would you use for crosses?
I tried it a long time ago, used Tecnifibre Red Code Wax in the crosses. Played as well as everyone says. Worth the money and then some.
Nice video! Creative genius in the tragic documentary section 😜
If I’m wanting a crisper set up which prioritizes feel and above average power, what would you recommend?
Maybe Solstice Power? Teal specifically. Or maybe Hawk Power if you haven't tried it. Also a big fan of Alpha but I think you tried that already? I can't remember.
@@TennCom okay cool! Yeah I have alpha but still haven’t tried it. I have tried hawk power which I like a lot, so might keep up with that one as well. Thx!
Have you tried trupro black knight? (Former tier one) finding it a good combo of comfort, tensions maintenance and good spin.
Yes. For me, lost tension super fast and didn't feel connected at all. Haven't had great exp with Tro Pro in general sadly.
well it throws itself out of the court because on your technique u slow down after contact, your fastest part of the swing peaks at the finish thats where u get the control. with any strings it does that
Fire Wire is pretty amazing.
I love mouthwatering ball feel😅
Heavy topspin player here with an Aero 98 - and I'm finding heavily shaped strings (game changer, wasabi pro hybrid) are punishing while I'm trying to add more flat shots to my game. I've found myself going back to 6-siders on the crispy side (tour bite, also like confidential and super toro), but am interested in trying some hybrids for the feel. I've got a half set of Touch VS waiting in my bag for it's perfect partner, and thinking of giving Tour Bite 17 / Touch VS 16 a go. But I also have sets of Sniper, M8, Lynx Tour, K-Pop, Razor Soft... all have yet to be tried.
Thanks mostly to you, Becket, I've got a dozen different sets of string in my bag - and too much of a fear of being judged by my club pro to change them out more frequently...
Save that gut for the mains! You won't lose any spin and it'll play way nicer. M8 would be absolutely holy in the cross. Thanks for watching and all the best with your string journey... the jungle is vast haha
@@TennCom thanks! I'll give VS/M8 a try. Maybe a subject for a follow-on video - how do you approach tensions in a hybrid? 53lb full bed is my go to - and I've defaulted to 54/50 when hybriding. But my world got rocked when I noticed that Toroline suggests 2lb tighter (!) on some of their cross strings.
What are the effects of tighter/looser mains vs crosses? Do you also have a 'go-to', or does it depend heavily on the strings themselves?
@@craignelson5689 I think effects are minimal but I’ve seen less racquet head deformation with looser crosses
I played fireboost 1.20/1.17 at low 40s and experienced very minimal notching even after 20 hours. I am not a hard hitter but hit deep topspin shots almost always. Crosses were almost flattened though. Weird, maybe because of the low tension.
Put a full bed of TOROLINE Snapper into my Ezone 98 - after Cade from MPtennis gave it a review. Might be interesting to throw them into a hybrid as it is an 8 sided string with a very slick coating, soft feel but responsive energy return - a lot more than most strings that feel that soft.
Yeah I had them in my Whiteout in a full bed and in my Extremes. I have a Omakase hybrid from TOroline that uses it in a cross as well.
Max Rotation Main PTP cross
Nice video, it's got it all. Content, arts, surprising scenes, side plot...
Reguarding the content: everybody may search for what suits them best. Some want max. spin, some need all control they can possibly get their hands on.
My demands are way more simple. I need endless spin, top control, decent power (not too much, don't want to overshoot), great feel and half a year durability without any tension drop.
Life could be so easy...
tyty we will accept our emmy anytime
hey Beckett!. What would you recommend for Yonex Vcore 97 for more control/power setup. I like to hit ball very flat and I don't use too much spin.
I'd go natural gut mains with something like Lux 4g in the crosses. Budget version could be X1 Biphase mains with Max Power crosses, or even a full bed of Triax, like Clay Thompson.
Any recommendations for Low launch angle powerful control strings?
Hawk Power
Lynx tour 125 on top of RPM Rough 125.
Could you review the new 2024 Dunlop CX 200 I’d like to get your opinion.
ye im working on it as we speak
Do we think that Hyper G Round Crosses and Prince Vortex Triad will have a similar effect as the combo that led to severe depression? Because I want spin but also want to love myself
My experience with Triad was very negative when I tried it in a full bed, but if you know you like it, as is, I'm sure it would work, but Hyper-G would firm it up a little in case that's something you are concerned about.
By some reason hybrid gives something extra. Recently, I found out a great mix from Yonex Poly Tour Spin on the main and Yonex Poly Tour Fire on the cross (1,25 each). And tbh I did never feel anything like this, where I tested a lot of different strings.
Do you think the magic is from the Fire, the Spin, or just a magic combo?
Gotta be the slickness from fire@@TennCom
I have an insanely good combo, Tour Bite 18 5% pre in mains, Luxilon Element 125 in crosses. About 3lbs differential. It is incredibly good in tighter string pattern rackets and if you're not a huge string breaker
Element is so expensive I feel like id rather get gut
@@TennCom it can be substituted with ptp too
I use Tour Bite and PTP as well in my Ezone 98 really cool setup
I think tennis warehouse should adopt this review style 😂
Would you ever try a hybrid like ALU Power Rough in the mains, and ReString Zero in the crosses? Maybe like 54/52 lbs?
You read my mind. Currently testing Tour Bite Diamond Rough 1.30 mains / new ReString Crosses. New Restring is round and feels more connected. This is a very very good setup for me.
@@TennCom Will be interesting to see the new round version soon!
what do you think about Tour M8 in the mains and Velocity MLT in the crosses in a Aero 98?
Good, but I'm a big fan of multi mains. Feels better, more spin. I can play multi mains until they break which is about 90mins but i can only play poly mains till the snapback stops which is like 15 mins.
@@TennCom what setup can you recommenf thats not too firm but you dont have to restring it that often ( I dont have a machine)
@@jona6025 Tour M8 at 43lbs should last a good while
3:25 just awesome, nice one, One Punch Chungus!
Hi Becket. Do you think this kind of hybrid could bring black consistency in the vcore 98/100?
I actually think those racquets are pretty consistent, just consistently high. I tried Paradox Pro a while ago in the 98 to try to tame the launch but I had no success. A full bed of something rough might be better.
@@TennCom ok, thanx, I ll try !
What would you recommend to pair together with restring zero in a hybrid setup?
Caviar mains Zero crosses is a pretty fun setup. Huge power and spin without losing too much feel.
@@TennCom Thanks! Basically exactly what I want to be able to do. I’m restringing my head ti s6, so I just wanna be able to slam bullets into the court with good spin. Also what about a pair with the other restring string, Sync? A more control oriented setup.
At 3:25 I laughed, I cried... it became a part of me...
I pair confidential w poly tour pro. Seems to work for me
How do you think this would compare to a full bed of confidential?
Why haven't you try razor soft? IMO it is one oof the best string in terms of feel!
not easy to get in canada
What is the best string for ezone 100 2022? I dont like poly tour pro, i need another, i think under potencia string
maybe try something completely different from PTP, like Solinco Tour Bite
@@TennCom what do you think about alu power rough, 4g, rpm blast ? It Was a different like tourbite?
@@rafaeldutra3252 a bit expensive for what they are but worth a try
Is this Soprano ending going to be a sort of trend here now or som'in?
To be fair Ultra Cable is pretty sharp. Maybe not as sharp as a star-shaped string, sure, but for a squared string its edges are incredibly defined. Maybe it's because they reshape a round string into a square, not sure if shaving it or compressing, I think the latter. Same for Rock and Power.
Do I remember correctly that you once suggested as a substitute for zero/wasabi, in terms of snapback, MSV swift (among others, such as PT Fire)? If so, have you tried Bussard? According to them is more oriented to control and spin, was wondering if it could make a good cross as well (great price-point).
Also, Poly Power Pro from Pacific has an outstanding "score" in TWUs in terms of string friction. I only tried a full bed in a Prestige MP GT gen (the PT57A mold, same 18x20 pattern as the pro tour as well so pretty dense), and have to say allowed pretty decent spin.
Also, PT Rev from Yonex is basically same as PT fire but 8-sided?
I haven't heard of Bussard. MSV is largely off my radar because they don't have a huge presence in North America. TBH I can barely keep up with Toroline's new releases... it feels like the string selections are infinite. Idk if PT Rev is the same, but I wasn't a fan in a full bed. Nothing bad, but nothing great.
@@TennCom thanks for your answer! So I assume you weren't the one recommending MSV swift either, right? My bad
@@Maiqel no I might have because I heard that’s what a lot of Europeans were using instead of ReString. Now you can get Zero from tennisracquetseu in Lisbon tho
@@TennCom yes! @time410s mentioned it to me and I got my first lot of Zero, Toroline and Grapplesnake strings! I'm trying a full bed of Zero 16g in my Prince Tour 95 and loving not just the extra spin but also how surprisingly plush and lively it feels. I was expecting it to feel much stiffer, particularly at this gauge.
Question, I have to play tennis on a budget, I would like to play with a softer setup and keep my opponent on the base line. Currently using solinco confidential 18g @55lbs for control and I love it but find that the ball hits the service line or maybe a foot past the service line and my opponent just steps in and crushes balls. Should I be trying to go for a hybrid setup with poly/multi, poly/poly or poly/gut? I cannot afford to change strings every month or every other month unfortunately and am looking for a setup that can last the length of a rec league season. I’m a 3.5 player, I play singles/doubles and play two to three times a week with a 2 hour group lesson once a week. I’m lost and looking for advice. O and I string at 55 cause if I string at lower tension with the 18g the strings just loosens up to much and ball just flys on me. I went with 18 to try and save my shoulders a bit with poly cause I’m not a huge string breaker.
go to 16L and drop to 48lbs, trust yourself to adapt to the lower tension and find the spin you need to bring the ball back down
@@TennCom but should I just stay with my string setup or would it be to much of an adventure to find a solid hybrid setup? Thank you so much for your response!
@@JovanniG678 since budget is an issue i'm suggesting to stay with what you got. Going to a hybrid is a risk for your preferences and I don't want to recommend something you might feel urged to cut out right away
did hear mouth watering ball feel 🤣
i’m sorry u guys went thru this tragic experience
ty for your thoughts and prayers
Have you tried Zero/Sync? 😁
not yet
If I had 6 minutes of life left, I'd probably choose to watch the YTex Square X / ReString Zero part twice.
Dying😂😂😂
This snap back thing is such a bs myth! In a millisecond at contact, the string will move like 5mm and snap back giving the ball any energy, especially considering how enormous the impact from collision is. Seriously?
Have you seen slow motion footage? Its pretty clear what's going on.
@@TennCom
I don’t deny that snap back happens. But it has any impact on the ball that has so much momentum and weight at that moment? Really?
@@watcher687 let me know what you think of this study: twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/stringmovementPart2.php
@@TennCom
I’m not a physicist. Can’t tell if this experiment is scientifically valid. There’s only one way to test it. Same racket, same string, same tension but you (somehow) fix the mains and crosses in one racket to measure the difference in spin. Even then when you glue the cross and mains intersections, that’ll change the tension. So it’s not easy to do a really controlled experiment.
Your intuition is absolutely right. Snap back might have a spin effect on the NEXT SHOT since the strings are rightly placed again, and not dislocated from the shot before. But to think that snap back affect the ball in real time is just nuts. (I can imagine that the slow motion footage might look cool though, as if snap back would give the ball energy upon impact, but that is nothing that really happens..)
The drama. 😂😂😂😂
Why don't you just use syn gut at 60?
Genuinely? It's so much easier to hit heavy balls with full poly. Maybe if I play a lot of serve and volley I'd prefer syngut, but I never go to net.
@@TennCom I use a full bed of syn gut at 60 lb with my CX 200 tour, and I really think it's good. My only problem with this setup is durability, but syn gut is cheap so it's fine. And, by the way, I know it sounds like I'm a 60 year old, and I swear I'm not. I'm actually 17, if you can believe it.
@@maruydasilva i'm sure it plays great but its not a setup that'll maximize my game personally. Even a hybrid with multi mains reduces my performance significantly since my game is built around spin and i grew up using full poly
Thou king Beckett we are merely peasants under your rule of tennis racket review land! How are you liking the pure strike 98 gen 4 16x19
I only hit it for about 15mins... hoping to get a review unit from Babolat soon. Really enjoyed the update but probably a bit heavy for me swingweight/twistweight wise
Beckett, the only human born on February 29, 1998.
If PTP lasted longer I would stop trying other strings
have you tried Caviar? My friend (NTRP 5.5) switched to it from PTP and said the tension was a big factor.
@@TennCom Not tried Caviar, might have to give it a go.
These poor people use the modern giant artificial rackets and artificial strings to give them the things they cannot develop themselves. It’s the person not the racket/strings. When tennis was really played by talented people in the 80’s and early 90’s they had one rackets gut strings and a bottle of water. The talent had to come from within. Now you have a society full of tennis nuts who spend their days looking for something to assist them in playing. Can you imagine if they actually had to play with real equipment.
This is cinematic beauty. Stop spending your time on tennis. Focus on golf or something with a crap ton more popularity and money and you’ll blow up. Best channel on YT already just too small a target audience. I’d watch you review piles of dog doo.
I was thinking of switching to ultimate frisbee or darts
@@TennComDo a spinoff channel where you go down the golf rabbit hole and along the way you’ll be able to show how relatable the 2 sports are. I think you’d grow the 2 channels and the audiences would merge. The OP is right, your production is so good that you’ve got to branch out to bigger audiences and golf is cool now lol
Aaand in this meta, string texture nerf
Q2 '24 will see rough strings get patched and become the new meta
First❤
world record click
This is just getting too much lol
the never ending journey
just use a pickleball paddle, it gives best spin and control, tennis is for losers that are too weak and slow for pickleball
Honestly does nobody have muscles? I could beat sinner 6-0 6-0 6-0 at the ao, but if I was playing my legendary Idol, Jack sock, who changed to the dominant sport, he would triple bagel me easy (or however our W sport's scoring system works). That just proves how intense our glorious sport is.
Don't exaggerate.
How dare you tell One Punch Chungus what to do.
New Video idea a Subscriber String Combo Fight Off eg my no.1 -> Pro's Pro Concept 17 1.22mm @ 38lbs X Pro's Pro Black Out 16L 1.24mm AKA... WC Scorpion 1.17mm x WC Black5Edge 17 (same thing same factory different package) - Cheap, durable, crazy snap back and feel - all in one combo.
Imagine using Strings, my pickleball paddle had no strings at all. Time for you to fix your setup. 🫵😡
what is this pickleball you speak of?
@TennCom it is the dominant sport over tennis, I only watch tennis because of the grunting
(I'm just joking I'm innocent tennis better)
Back in my old days I own a prestige mp and I use the Giles Simon Hybrid 🫡 head Inteli tour