Hi-Res Audio on the Cheap!

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @ModernClassic
    @ModernClassic  3 роки тому +50

    Quick thing - I had a feeling there'd be some confusion about this, but the point about brickwalling vs. dynamics isn't that CD isn't capable of dynamic sound. That's why there's a title card at 5:05 attempting to explain that these are choices that sound engineers are making. CD's are often mastered for people to listen to in their cars and through earbuds, whereas hi-res is often/usually mastered for critical listening in the home. Different audience. It's not anything inherent to any particular format, but you will *more commonly* find better masters in hi-res files. That doesn't mean it always happens, because as I say later, not everybody is good at their jobs. (In fact, the really bad example of brickwalling that I show later is a hi-res file.) I probably should have talked about hi-res's increased dynamic range either later or not at all - the reason I brought it up at that point was just to explain that dynamic range doesn't matter regardless of format if the engineer's just going to brickwall everything.

    • @ClintTheriault
      @ClintTheriault 3 роки тому

      I'm glad you clarified this, because I was wondering if you were confusing amplitude with khz for a bit there...
      This is why I still try and get the High res music even though I don't have good enough hearing/equipment to hear high res stuff. Because the mastering isn't as aggressive and there's much more detail in the music. Even on my shitty $50 44khz usb stereo amp and half deaf ears, I can tell the difference in the two sources.

    • @bradjohnson5323
      @bradjohnson5323 3 роки тому

      I would go further in favour of hi-res audio, most peoples' interpretation of the Nyquist Theorem is INCORRECT, it is only a perfect sample for EXACTLY double the freq. So if you had a annoying buzzer tone at 10khz a 20khz digital sample will reproduce it perfectly. That's not music, music has constantly varying frequencies. I have by no means golden ears but using specific samples, listening to them multiple times, I can pick out the higher frequency sample 14 times out of 15. This is taking a 96khz sample and resampling it to 48khz, not taking a crappy CD master versus a higher quality master.
      That said it is REALLY HARD to do, I have to listen to very specific samples using good headphones at sound levels that would probably cause hearing loss if I did this all the time. So is high res audio worth it? For most people probably not, but it is 100% possible to hear the difference, it is not snake oil.

    • @TheIpadfanatic
      @TheIpadfanatic 3 роки тому +7

      I agree that there is crappy mastering on CDs. But there is also stellar mastering. It's like Forest Gump and his box of chocolates. Digital downloads can suffer the same fate, as well as HiRes. But it appears to me we are condemning here one format in favor of HiRes, which currently exists in very little quantity. Absolutely, chase perfection. And well mastered red book audio on decent gear sounds AMAING!

    • @Andersljungberg
      @Andersljungberg 3 роки тому

      There are apparently problems with the CD and it is that with ours hearing threshold, we actually hear weaker sounds in the middle register than other frequencies. SONY music tried to solve this problem with SBM super bit mapping. and noise forming. 16 bits is apparently not enough for the sound in the middle register

    • @Andersljungberg
      @Andersljungberg 3 роки тому

      Does this not apply primarily to pop music and other popular music. there are people who point out that pop music on vinyl records in the 80's usually did not have such good sound. that is, music that would bring in money for the record companies

  • @wsurfer2147
    @wsurfer2147 3 роки тому +186

    The problem with audiophile equipment is that, for 99% of the people, by the time you can even come close to afford the true HiFi stuffs, your ears are too old to tell the difference.

    • @burkholdst.rudderberg3574
      @burkholdst.rudderberg3574 3 роки тому +9

      What?

    • @danthemanwhocancan
      @danthemanwhocancan 3 роки тому +2

      @@burkholdst.rudderberg3574 Pardon!!

    • @Deeky76
      @Deeky76 3 роки тому

      @Douglas Blake Are you telling me your 100w amplifier will stand toe to toe against anything the same power and of a higher price level?? ... Then you've obviously never heard a true decent amplifier properly sing before...

    • @Deeky76
      @Deeky76 3 роки тому +1

      @Douglas Blake Not at all, I use my Denon receiver for movies and gaming, and it's surprisingly good at putting out some good music too. It's only a couple of years old...but if i were to compare it musically to my Roxan amplifier, There's no competition, The Roxan is far more clear and with less power than my Denon.

    • @MCMTL
      @MCMTL 2 роки тому +1

      In terms of gear, I prefer buying 90s Japanese (or Korean) kits. You can get near TOTL gear for the price of some of today's midfi gear.

  • @johnathanfelton6251
    @johnathanfelton6251 3 роки тому +15

    Have one. Paid $150. Sounds great with no problems. LOVE IT! It's a versitile budget system, decent enough quality for its price, and won't disappoint people who like Sony products. Proof that great sounding home audio can actually be had without spending a fortune for it.

  • @gewamser
    @gewamser 2 роки тому +2

    I finally had to take my 40 year old beloved MAC receiver in for service, and it was gonna be in the shop for awhile, so I looked on Amazon for an inexpensive basic receiver, to use as a fill-in, till I got my MAC 4100 back. I saw the Sony 190 excellent reviews on UA-cam and was sold…when I got the Sony home and hooked it up…It kind of blew my mind! I was taken aback! Did it sound as good as my MAC? No. But it sounded close enough that I am no longer in a hurry to get the MAC back. Then I began to rethink how far modern sound tech has come in 40 years. Your video here, helped fill in that knowledge gap. Certain Amazon music files in Hi res over my Bluetooth sound incredibly good, almost great. This has caused a sea change in my thinking, and like you, I thought since the Sony is SO close, for so cheap..why not charge a little more and make it better? Great video.

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 3 роки тому +20

    You’re speaking my language: cheap gear. Pride myself on the stuff I find at goodwill and garage sales. Subbed!

  • @noturnleftunstoned72
    @noturnleftunstoned72 Рік тому +1

    You have a new fan and subscriber here. You know what you are talking about while being concise, accurate and fair. Cheers!

  • @Bushidounohana
    @Bushidounohana 3 роки тому +8

    Appreciate your time, trouble, and perspective-this is a great watch with lots of insights as well as a nice recommendation on equipment. Thank you!

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 3 роки тому +12

    6:55 This is not a problem of "low" resolution music. This is a mastering DECISION. The CD could have just as easily sounded EXACTLY like the highres version. They just chose to clip the music and bump the volume too high.

    • @LBCAndrew
      @LBCAndrew 2 роки тому +1

      Yep. They compress the hell out of most modern music and completely ruin it. A properly mastered CD can not be reliably identified when compared properly in a blind test with some fancy super ultra mega unumpentium resolution version.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 2 роки тому

      @@LBCAndrew The same people who waffle on about "high-res" audio are the ones who bought audiophile grade SD cards, monster cables and other audiophile woo and marketing wank. Blind tests prove CD is good enough for 99.98% of people who listen to music. And that .02 I have serious doubts about.

    • @Lazarev666
      @Lazarev666 9 місяців тому

      Try blind test between 320 mp3 and flac 😂
      Nobody hears the difference.
      Nobody passed my test, even sound engineers and audiophiles with crazy expensive equipment 😂

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Lazarev666 That's pretty much what I was saying.

    • @Lazarev666
      @Lazarev666 9 місяців тому

      @tarstarkusz
      I totally agree 👍
      It is a marketing trick to sell the same media again. Even if difference can be seen in software spectrograph, it is still almost impossible to hear a difference. At least I do not know anyone who can hear it.
      It is more about mastering and avoiding clipping.
      The same is with dacs and decent power amps. If the frequency response is flat and distortion is low, the difference between them is inaudible. People who hear the difference between them are delusional.
      The audiophile industry is basically a neat money grabbing trick.

  • @musicbycandlelightmbc3225
    @musicbycandlelightmbc3225 3 роки тому +2

    Oh oh, he said the famous words, "circling back" as in Jen Psaki , 'we'll have to circle back on that"...lol. You have a very soothing and calming voice for narration I must say. Relating to your flight sim videos, we could be incorrectly heading straight for a mountain side and I would be perfectly fine with that while being totally calm and relaxed by your instructions or stories while sipping tea and hearing frantic screams from the rear passengers.

  • @MrB10N1CLE
    @MrB10N1CLE 3 роки тому +3

    This is the first time I've watched one of your vids, and just seeing Scandal, I can already tell I'm going to have a great time.

  • @jeffjefferson7384
    @jeffjefferson7384 Рік тому +2

    16bit FLACs at 44.1KHz are absolutely good enough for me. I have heard 96-24 files that do sound a little better, but many of them I frankly couldn't tell the difference. I'd be more concerned about the quality of your headphones / speakers, and having a decent enough DAC (mine was the Earstudio ES100 Mk2, which I'm very happy with). Great video!

  • @tomb375
    @tomb375 Рік тому +1

    Great Video and Thank you. I love your Equipment Rack, where can I get one of those? Thank you.

  • @pete76cj7
    @pete76cj7 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video buddy. I was expecting you to derail and go off on tangents like EVERY UA-camr does. Kudos for staying on point for a long video. Information was great and the sarcasm kept me reeled in. 10/10... Not that you care, but thanks for sharing. You earned a subscriber here and I don't do that often with all the trash out there....

  • @toneslotohnz4540
    @toneslotohnz4540 3 роки тому +4

    Excellent video! Totally agree on your take on almost everything, especially the value of lossless audio. Why not get the best possible source material? The sound upgrade is usually cheaper than buying new equipment. Btw, the Doritos analogy was hilarious and spot-on! Thanks for the laugh!

  • @loungebiddle7922
    @loungebiddle7922 10 місяців тому +1

    You are like the stranger you met in a pub only to find out the evening was full of the best conversation and observations. Listened to your take on Turntables and not even sure how I ended up on the topic of Hi-Res. Oh yes, I know why, it is that snake oil you mentioned once or twice. Funny thing is that I haven't touched my music system for years and popped into my local AD only to hear that same BS. He was levering $20k out of my bank account with-in 10 minutes as though there is only one way to go about getting a fantastic sound. So refreshing. Will be rushing down to the pub (so to speak) to listen to your other views and thank you for rescuing me from the rediculous assumption that it takes money to produce a good sound. BS - you just gotta know what you like and be prepared to find affordable solutions that don't have to be a compromise. Cheers to you.

  • @InsideOutElectronics
    @InsideOutElectronics 3 роки тому +2

    Nice video ! Thank you
    I still have LGV20 and LG G7 Thinq and they both work very well for High Res music
    Using my ATH-PRO5X

  • @RetroFighter0
    @RetroFighter0 3 роки тому +23

    Imagine a crossover episode with Techmoan, LGR, 8bit Guy, Modern Classic, This Does Not Compute, Mr Carlson Lab, VWestlife and Technology Connections

  • @jarms40
    @jarms40 3 роки тому +2

    As usual, this is just plain excellent. Great technical description of both hi-rez and Bluetooth. (BTW, I’ve had pretty good results with apt-X HD to my wireless earbuds.) If you have a receiver or integrated amp with a hi-rez (24/96 or better) DAC built in, another cost-effective solution for both streaming and hi-rez file play is a Raspberry Pi with a HiFiBerry digi+ HAT. You can attach a disk drive with your files on it and stream from a streaming service all for $200 or so.

  • @DJGeorgeDisco
    @DJGeorgeDisco Рік тому

    A really good review for this receiver. I was looking for a detailed technical review and couldn't find one until I checked your video. I have placed an order for this receiver.

  • @harrypothead42024
    @harrypothead42024 3 роки тому +4

    The compressed format you're seeing there on that CD audiophile is a victim of the loudness War the reason they compressed it and increase the volume so high was because of a limit in sound output.

    • @harrypothead42024
      @harrypothead42024 3 роки тому +1

      @Douglas Blake yeah I did not word that clearly enough I didn't mean that the limitation was because of the CD format. I was under the impression that the loudness war was perpetuated more by producers than by musicians.

  • @briancooper3067
    @briancooper3067 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video with great insights. I too have bought that Sony receiver and have been really amazed at how good it sounds and yet it’s simplicity. I love it for the price.

  • @AdmanMadDog
    @AdmanMadDog 2 роки тому

    That was so well presented, funny and relatable. Well done dude. I'm in ;)

  • @JapanPop
    @JapanPop 3 роки тому +3

    I love my NWA-45 player. Been running Hi Res Walkman players since 2014. I noticed the difference right away. Paired with Grado Labs headphones or the Hear.In2, these devices are great! When commuting via rail, switching to noise cancelling earbuds is king. I rarely use ambient speakers these days…

  • @maximo90019
    @maximo90019 3 роки тому

    Well done . While I don’t agree with all your conclusions, your presentation is provocative, well reasoned , illustrated and earnest. The result is a worthwhile journey. Thanks

  • @tauhidirfani271
    @tauhidirfani271 3 роки тому +2

    love that you use Scandal as an example.
    one of my favourite band ever

  • @hernansalazarnorese9211
    @hernansalazarnorese9211 3 роки тому

    totally agree with you, I understand you. I am 58 years old and I live this day after day. Greetings from Chile!!

  • @aficionadohiend
    @aficionadohiend 2 роки тому +2

    Hello, i am a hardcore audiophile and have spend a lot of money in hi end expensive rig. Nevertheless, I decided to buy this sony amp and the walkman just to verify your findings. After several auditions and small twirks, I found that it is true that this modest system provides a very good Hi-Res Audio. My advise is to match this system with efficient bookshelf speakers and a powerful subwoofer (connected to hi-level inputs) and you will be at the entrance gate of audiophile nirvana, and for the cheap.

  • @jorgeamartineze120
    @jorgeamartineze120 3 роки тому +1

    I was really worried about the volume on this receiver. I thought it was broken or something, thanks for letting me know that is normal. I like this receiver.

  • @tomowens7499
    @tomowens7499 8 місяців тому

    i have the older nw a35 model, looks exactly like your player. love that thing... i've never heard of changing the firmware, sounds interesting... a QUESTION though for you. do you use ANY of the sony sound quality features? clear audio?dsee hx? Phase linearizer? i don't really notice them doing much to improve sound, so i don't use them. i DO sometimes like the sound of the 'rock' preset EQ, and sometimes i like to use the VPT STUDIO setting, but haven't used that in a long time... curious if you like your player totally set to 'everything off/neutral'?

  • @Andersljungberg
    @Andersljungberg 3 роки тому +5

    Sony UHD players can also play Hi-res including SACD and DVD audio

    • @paulmcwilliams8641
      @paulmcwilliams8641 3 роки тому

      I use that method for all my too as I was too frugal to pay for an overpriced SACD player. I also use a SSD, so there is no moving parts to pass my flac music to my Yamaha AS-801 and finally into a pair of Revel speakers. I am totally satisfied with the results.

    • @codname125
      @codname125 3 роки тому

      @@paulmcwilliams8641 If you're concerned about moving parts, you don't understand the concept of DIGITAL audio. A digital file doesn't care if it's located on a moving part.

    • @paulmcwilliams8641
      @paulmcwilliams8641 3 роки тому

      @@codname125 It does if the digital file is on a CD surely, otherwise why do CD manufacturers go to such lengths to reduce imperfections? CDs are not always flat, they have minute scratches, fingerprints, dust on the laser etc etc etc. A SSD has none of that.

  • @dananderson4558
    @dananderson4558 3 роки тому +1

    Amen , preach on brother. Great analogy with the Doritos. I have tried to explain it to others and have been yelled at so many times about how ignorant and old fashioned I am. I did not even know what an audiophile was until I was online in a discussion and was called one. I showed a 20's College guy one day the difference between his ipod and my original production reel to reel tape played music. I have some of my Dads old Reel to Reel tapes and some I have managed to pick up through the years in various places. I rebuilt a TEAC reel to reel machine. I played his exact song through headphones I had. From his Ipod and my system. I also played it open through my speakers. His comment was WOW it sounds like I am in a concert and I can hear the guitarist fingers drag the strings as he changes notes. I told him that he was listening to the difference of the whole analog recording vs a sampled digital file that cuts off everything above and below a set frequency limit. I told him that I have amps and equalizers that will make everything louder but I can only amplify what is originally there.

  • @etiennedesjardins5511
    @etiennedesjardins5511 3 роки тому +1

    The end is just perfect!!!

  • @chuckblank9063
    @chuckblank9063 Рік тому

    How can I buy a Sony A55 new or vety lightly used without getting ripped off? I'm in love with it from all you've said about it. Thanks for your time and intelligence.

  • @jerryspann8713
    @jerryspann8713 3 роки тому +1

    With the Sony NWA55 you can use it as a dac. And if your phone has USB OTG you can send the audio from your phone to your Sony NWA55.

  • @dudedude7849
    @dudedude7849 2 роки тому

    What is the name of the service that you showed at 1:53 that sells vinyl with the digital copy?

  • @brucetungsten5714
    @brucetungsten5714 10 місяців тому

    Great video!
    I was shocked at how many new releases, nearly all, are "brick walled".
    I had to seek out vinyl (e.g. Madonna's "Candy Store") and, in case vinyl was too expensive(>600$), a rip. Even then some of those songs sound "overdriven"... similar to many of Sia's tracks - dire times.
    Are there sites that exclusively select for "non brick walled" content?

  • @jeffcsMN
    @jeffcsMN 3 роки тому

    This might be the only video I’ve watched the entire way through without skipping ahead which says a lot. I bought a Sony STR-DH190 and liked it so much I ended up buying a 2nd one for the basement. I was fortunate to get mine for about $100 each. It’s a great value, but I wish the manual were a little more clear on which inputs are compatible with Hi-Res audio. I use Bluetooth most of the time for convenience and because it works so damn well.

  • @Berryservices
    @Berryservices 3 роки тому +1

    Honest review without the bullshit, I love it

  • @2011joser
    @2011joser 3 роки тому +1

    When it comes to bluetooth codecs, I have found that buying higher end audio equipment doesn’t guarantee the best options. My interest is in car audio and I found that buying a higher end Apline head unit meant settling for a bluetooth version a couple of times removed from the current standard . I streamed from an Lg V35 and I ended up doing my custom install without changing the head unit and instead added a high quality bluetooth reciever meant for wired headphones. My current install has my Pixel 5 streaming to Fiio Btr5 reciever that is connected directly to an Adiocontrol equalizer then directly to the amplifiers. While its not high res, the sound is more satisfying than settling for the outaded factory or Alpine connections.

  • @miikasuominen3845
    @miikasuominen3845 3 роки тому +3

    At 8,5 minutes now and I must say. I agree with you ;)
    Nicely put out :D

  • @Flying_turnip187
    @Flying_turnip187 3 роки тому

    Great video!! I am a beginner in the Audiophile world. This was a great tutorial on begging started without paying the big dollars. Thanks!

  • @omahahnful
    @omahahnful 3 роки тому +1

    For Hi-Res Audio on the cheaper (in audiophile terms) side, it might be an option to look into music studio equipment.
    A cheaper audio interface like the Steinberg Ur22mk2 can play 24-Bit / 192 kHz with a pretty good result for only 120 $, and even the top notch stuff like the RME Babyface Pro or the UAD Apollo are well under 1000 $ all with really great DACs (as good as the DACs the music was recorded on)!

  • @sebbyboiiii
    @sebbyboiiii Рік тому

    My pioneer stereo amplifier A-110 recently failed is the Sony STR-DH190 as good as my pioneer amp also would my tannoy E11 speakers run well with the Sony STR-DH190

  • @pvanb291
    @pvanb291 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. Technical enough and a complete lack of BS! We share the same views on the quality vs convenience plight facing the world. I was looking at many portable audio players, but also needed to update my phone, so got the only device to be considered for the role. LG V30! Just updated to V50, (A$370 from AliExpress!) but that's it for mobile phones with good audio. With LG dropping the phone range (V60 wasn't quite as good) there are no more devices to choose from. Oppo did make one ages ago, that was basically a great audio player, with a phone thrown in. For home, I have a Naim Unity player/streamer and JRiver on a media server PC. Works great , but not a system for everyone to launch into!

  • @utube4andydent
    @utube4andydent Рік тому

    On the note of playback.... it's a big module but I have a Behringer umc 1820 for day to day audio it sounds good. It has the audiophile tag but I'm not sure what this would mean.

  • @kautkascitadaks
    @kautkascitadaks 3 роки тому

    For interconnects best bang for the buck would be buying pure 99.9 fine silver wire from a goldsmith 02 or 0.5 mm diameter is more than enough for interconnects and headphone cables. Use the 0.2mm wire myself for my headphone cable and interconnects.
    For speakers would suggest getting 1mm silver wire or 1mm sterling silver wire. You have to sleave them(ad insulation) but it will still be hell of a lot cheaper than to buy ready built silver or even occ cables.
    My motto is always make what you can yourself and buy what you can not. Making your own cables is super easy and simple. Just basic solder skills required for the interconnects.
    Also before i forget thanks for the video. Love your honesty. If you ever plan on upgrading your player take a look at ibasso portatable players. Some would say they are a bit pricey but the sound justifies the price. Got a modded dx227 myself.
    Had their lower end offerings aswell. Even their usb c dac's the dc01 dc02 and now dc03 and dc04 sound sublime. Amazing tuning for amazing price.
    Thanks for the video and stay safe and healthy.

  • @personne-helms1358
    @personne-helms1358 2 роки тому

    Really good and informative video :-) Since I just love the old vintage receivers, what's the model number of your old Sony? Thanks

  • @lepot23
    @lepot23 2 роки тому +1

    I do tend to think that the extra frequencies add to the overall experience of the music. Maybe the timbre, or the overtones, or reverb, or chorus, etc... that can get damaged when the music is cut at a certain frequency. CD's are great, and to my ears, I probably couldn't tell the difference between them, or hi-res. But, like you said, if you are going to compress your music to a more portable format, it's better to start with the best.

  • @DosGamerMan
    @DosGamerMan 3 роки тому +2

    How's the new career? Missing your vids.

  • @honkybear666
    @honkybear666 3 роки тому

    Love you humor and banter.

  • @NEOREV_MUSIC
    @NEOREV_MUSIC 3 роки тому

    I stay away from Bluetooth altogether as it is lossy compression

  • @chahahc
    @chahahc 3 роки тому +1

    The nine dollar usbc to 3.5mm apple dongles are actually really good. ASR has some measurements on it. Regarding modern receivers, the main issue is that they're almost all class d amps now which are really susceptible to higher order distortion products if not designed well. You really just have to measure the receivers to see how they perform.

  • @mahdiyussuf9804
    @mahdiyussuf9804 2 роки тому

    I can't believe I watched the whole thing. nice video man

  • @codname125
    @codname125 3 роки тому +1

    4:15 Who uses MP3 though?
    That format is by all means ancient just like MP2. AAC and OPUS are the way to go these days.

    • @ModernClassic
      @ModernClassic  3 роки тому +1

      Many, many people use mp3. If you're under the impression that more people use OPUS than mp3, you are extremely mistaken.

  • @rambache
    @rambache 3 роки тому

    Min 2:00 Why is ALAC and FLAC file size so different? almost as double! isnt ALAC and FLAC practically the same?

    • @DJShoji
      @DJShoji 3 роки тому

      While both are lossless audio data compression file formats, FLAC does the better job (usually smaller than ALAC.)

  • @Chrisspru
    @Chrisspru 2 роки тому

    the high res frequencies on their own are not audible.
    however, they excite the speaker membrane. that influences speaker behavior and interacts destructively and construcively with lower audible frequencies harmonicaly.
    so there is audible difference through the high frequencies interaction with the other soundwaves and with the physical speaker, even though the "naked" high frequencies are completely inaudible on their own.
    similar to how you can't se UV light, but it can make some things glow in the visible spectrum

  • @aaronmartinez5029
    @aaronmartinez5029 10 місяців тому

    Love this receiver so far.
    I was using an old Technics receiver that was manufactured in the 80’s and it started to lose its volume.
    My LP’s would sound quiet even at max volume but sounded amazing with CD’s.
    I just wished this receiver had that thumping bass and loudness option like my old receiver but it’s definitely an upgrade in terms of volume and clarity

  • @sarbart823
    @sarbart823 3 роки тому +3

    As a Kid I figured out some how even on a low end stereo that well engineered albums sounded much richer - Eg - Old Doobie Brothers - Steely Dan - Roger Nickols comes to mind

    • @herbyverstink
      @herbyverstink 3 роки тому

      roger nichols was the man..i used to read his column in EQ mag

  • @arindamguha7259
    @arindamguha7259 3 роки тому

    Very nice to give these valuable information. I've question...If I've a external HDD with FLAC/PCM files...what is the option and solution for home stereo setup....Thanks & Regards.

    • @capoman1
      @capoman1 8 місяців тому

      Someone mentioned here in the comments that old MacBooks have optical out.

  • @dominik.jokiel
    @dominik.jokiel 3 роки тому +2

    I use a PC with an "pro" audio interface 192khz 32bit float. I paid ~120$ for it a couple years back. It has Midas preamps.... and a class AA 90s amp because i got it for free. Only downside it get warm in the room because it draws 600W on the outlet and has 2x 90W on 4 or 8 ohm for the speakers.

    • @dmo848
      @dmo848 3 роки тому

      I agree the PC does push things better. I bought some German speakers that kick ass on the PC or phone. Anywhere else I can't get it to push the sub. Idk🤔

  • @slerched
    @slerched 3 роки тому +2

    High Quality Bluetooth:
    Best options are LDAC codec from Sony but on anything other than a Sony Android device, it's hard to ensure you are getting the highest quality from it.
    The next best would be Apt-X HD which is easier to support from things that aren't Sony Android devices but you have to ensure the device you buy supports it, which Samsung devices will never do.

  • @johnh539
    @johnh539 Рік тому

    correction, you could use speakers B out.
    but I'm not sure that this method doesn't mean you should add two subs so as to have one fore the left and one the right set B speaker connection ,witch is why I haven't really considered it for myself .
    If any one knows if it is safe to only connect one speaker of a pair id love to know[ assume powered sub]?

  • @88andy
    @88andy 3 роки тому

    I thoroughly enjoyed that, excellent. How is it listening to headphones on the Sony amp.

  • @codname125
    @codname125 3 роки тому

    21:36 actually Bluetooth can carry High-Res audio via Sony LDAC, it supports up to 96kHz lossless transmission.

  • @Lights480
    @Lights480 2 роки тому

    do you have the Sony SS-CS5 Bookshelf speaker? It has excellent reviews from many UA-camrs that claimed it is the best speaker you can get under 200 dollars. A hi Res speaker, up to 50khz supported via the smooth sounding super tweeter.

  • @neogeo6464
    @neogeo6464 3 роки тому

    google chromecast audio (optical out version) I'm able to send Flac to my system over. But those are hard to find now.

  • @Andersljungberg
    @Andersljungberg 3 роки тому

    There is discussion about whether AIFF and WAV sound better than Flac & ALAC. the problem is considered to be the packing when the file is played, among other things

  • @tomaspa
    @tomaspa 3 роки тому

    Very useful and thorough analysis. Thanks!!! What do you think of the Caiyin N3?

  • @SantuarioReddit
    @SantuarioReddit 2 роки тому

    Should I buy this or the Hidiz AP80 PRO-X?

  • @AndyBHome
    @AndyBHome 3 роки тому

    What are the headphones at 16:48? I'm looking around and can't seem to find the brand and model

    • @JE-tn5tc
      @JE-tn5tc 3 роки тому

      They look like Audio-Technica Bluetooth headphones.

    • @AndyBHome
      @AndyBHome 3 роки тому

      @@JE-tn5tc oh geeze - I am an idiot! Thank you for the reply. He says it a MINUTE before the part where I stared at the screen for 3 minutes trying to figure out what they are. You are right. Audio Technica ATH-M50xBT

  • @christianrafaelli11
    @christianrafaelli11 2 роки тому

    For the cheapest dollar, what speakers/bookshelf speakers etc. would you recommend for this? thanks

  • @bikdav
    @bikdav 3 роки тому +2

    Your video was very informative. Now, I understand why my experiences with hi-res audio confusing. Another receiver to check out is the Yamaha RS-202. I have one and it performs well also. But, unlike the SONY STR-DH190, theYamaha has no onboard phono stage.

  • @Barneyrubble241
    @Barneyrubble241 Рік тому

    I've been looking for something to play just music on. I have a great old set of Klipsch speakers that I paid $1500 for about 25 years ago. They sound great, but are honestly not right for home theatre use. They are huge speakers and I have to check and make sure they are not 4 ohm, but I'm seriously thinking about this Sony.

  • @serguei1985
    @serguei1985 3 роки тому

    Great video! Which speakers are you using here? Looking forward for mount an affordable hires system in the living room. For more personal use I already have the Walkman A55 and the XM4 headphones.

    • @ModernClassic
      @ModernClassic  3 роки тому

      I'm using Pinnacle PN5+'s. Unfortunately haven't been available new for years, but you can often find them insanely cheap on Ebay for how good they sound. They were always one of the best deals around and still are.

  • @mikclarke64
    @mikclarke64 3 роки тому +1

    Yes I have the NW-A55L and is the best music player I have heard so far.

    • @RustyX2010
      @RustyX2010 3 роки тому

      I bet prices on eBay skyrocketed after this video!

  • @anew742
    @anew742 3 роки тому

    2:10 "only a few dollars more"
    god I wish haha
    I also have a NW-A55, I settled on it after buying three different DAPs! Where did you get your screen protector? I had trouble finding decent ones for this model

  • @jch2514224
    @jch2514224 3 роки тому

    I have a dh-190 since March. It really is great bang for your buck. I use it mainly for my turntable and tv. The phono preset really helps balance out the sound on my TT. For regular tv use is does great. Don’t use it muck for Bluetooth. But it is very crisp. Also have a Sony cod-ce235 CD player I have hooked up I picked up also on March for $15 from a thrift store. The CD’s sound a lot more boulder in sound compared to my ancient all one bookshelf system. You really can’t go wrong with this receiver.

  • @shannoncrawford7212
    @shannoncrawford7212 Рік тому

    I bought the 590 in this series for my HT system that I use mainly for music, but want it hooked up to the TV also.
    Got it recently for $250 on sale.
    I have seen some reviews that love the 190 but not the 590.
    I have enjoyed mine though, it replaced a 15 year old entry level Yamaha 5.1 receiver.
    It pushes the system harder than the Yamaha, and IMO sounds better.
    I have it set up as a 3.1 system, I do like having the center channel and sub vs 2 channel, but did not want surround speakers.
    I exclusively use the multi channel stereo mode, as I think it sounds the best of all the modes.
    I did go +5.5 dB on the L/R channels as the center channel volume was overpowering the others and this balances it out.
    And have my sub set at 80 Hz on the crossover, and second line on the gain.
    This gives it a good blend with the system where it disappears into the music, but definitely fills in the sound vs being turned off.
    Although my towers have two 8” woofers each, so they have decent bass.
    The receiver has no problem powering the system to very high volumes while remaining crisp and clear.
    I mostly use Amazon music on my TV with an optical cable into the receiver.
    There is a definite difference in quality between this and using Bluetooth.
    However it only supports Amazon HD (CD quality) and not their Ultra HD, the track quality info shows what is available and what the “streaming” device is capable of.
    Probably going to get a Firestick 4K max and plug it directly into the receiver with a HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV for the video feed.
    This should give me the Amazon music ultra HD capability directly into the receiver through an HDMI port.
    I don’t have a 4K TV, but the receiver does offer 4K video pass through and has the same Hi Res audio designation as the 190.
    And is spec’d as 145 watts per channel.
    I’m not an audiophile and don’t have audiophile level gear, but I’ll see if I can hear the difference on the ultra HD tracks.

  • @RetroFighter0
    @RetroFighter0 3 роки тому

    I like the practical approach of the subject, no snake oil

  • @TheDabbinDave
    @TheDabbinDave 3 роки тому

    Have you used Air Play instead of Bluetooth Jeff?

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 3 роки тому

    I had a pair of old(ish) 40W Akai speakers just gathering dust. So I built a 40W amp to go with them for £75. Nice matching enclosures for the electronics, (one for the amps, balance and PSU, and another for the turntable pre-amp, input select, vol, bass and treble), It has been my main stereo for 5-6 years. It sounds perfect to my 50+ year old ears.

  • @CHAUNCEY.GARDNER.
    @CHAUNCEY.GARDNER. 3 роки тому +3

    I'm using the lgv30 which has a quad dac, MQA, 32 bit,settings, grabbed a second FROM AMAZON,for 315 for a back up . gone in a day, and a headphone jack

    • @pvanb291
      @pvanb291 3 роки тому

      Yep, that's the only phone range to be taken seriously as an audio player! Just upgraded my V30 to the V50. V60 uses too much compression for mic recordings, has a lower res screen and not as good camera. So V50 is the last of the phone audio devices anywhere! No more LG's after the V60.

    • @CHAUNCEY.GARDNER.
      @CHAUNCEY.GARDNER. 3 роки тому +1

      @@pvanb291 They should have just made music player, but grabbing one from Amazon for back up, is a bonus,I use hybrid IEM. with a jack,FIIO,but when using the aux on a bluetooth makes a big diff, I have TWS bluetooth use a 3 way splitter,and chicks dig me LOL.

  • @firstnamelastname5848
    @firstnamelastname5848 Рік тому

    Thanks for the section about brickwalling. Until I saw that I never could justify getting into high resolution music. It does bring about a problem with a lot of music. The recording and mixing leaves a great deal to be desired. We now have the problem of drinking kool- aid from a crystal goblet. Yippee.

  • @luiscastro5456
    @luiscastro5456 3 роки тому

    great content, what is your take on the bluesound powernode?

  • @allen0088
    @allen0088 3 роки тому +3

    If u want Bluetooth just buy an earstudio es100 and connect it with 3.5 to innterconects. There's an adaptor for that. The es100 does LDac and AptXhd

  • @angelwars3176
    @angelwars3176 3 роки тому +2

    Congratulations on going down the DAP line levelled into an amp to play 'hi res' route. Far easier and less hassle than hooking computers up to external DAC's etc.

  • @DJShoji
    @DJShoji 3 роки тому

    Many old Macbooks came with optical audio in/out, and they can output 24/96 stereo audio (also 24/48, 24/44). They are great for setting up your high-res audio library on cheap; just pair with a receiver with optical inputs (used ones can be found really cheap.) Legacy iTunes are simpler and easier to use.

  • @phgodts
    @phgodts 3 роки тому +2

    What about the AudioQuest DragonFly DAC? It's small, 96kHz, MQA, the base model is $100 and powerful enough to drive 300 ohms headphones

    • @dgvpereira
      @dgvpereira 3 роки тому

      Mr. Paulo, have you seen this experiment about MQA? ua-cam.com/video/pRjsu9-Vznc/v-deo.html
      I do agree, audioquest would be a 2 in 1, because of its portability, but you can do better for using a pair of speakers on the cheap. Some small boxes around 80€ on amazon and such.

  • @patrickjones8209
    @patrickjones8209 3 роки тому

    I clicked on this video because I have this Sony receiver and think it's terrific. If you want to set up a great sounding, versatile and inexpensive two-channel system that has full digital functionality, pair the Sony with the FX Audio DAC X6 MKII (about $80) from Amazon. The bluetooth is very good, and it provides coaxial, optical and USB inputs as well. Output from the ESS9018 DAC is by analog RCA connection to an auxiliary or CD input on the Sony. This pairing will support hi-res up to 24/192...and there's a headphone jack to boot.

  • @RazvanMGH
    @RazvanMGH 3 роки тому +1

    Something that sounds unbelievably good for the price (and being only bt aptx) is the combination between Taotronics ba09 (or ba07) and Faeaal Rosemary.

  • @glaxii1
    @glaxii1 3 роки тому +15

    I’m blind I can’t hear this without glasses.

    • @Deeky76
      @Deeky76 3 роки тому

      Take your hearing aid out and you'll see better 👍

  • @johnlira3316
    @johnlira3316 2 місяці тому

    Guys i have a yamaha aventage 2030 has high res option what does it do and when do u use it

  • @absamdb
    @absamdb 2 роки тому

    Great, informative and interesting video. Thanks very much.

  • @Huskytickler
    @Huskytickler 3 роки тому

    Great video, thank you for the clarity

  • @TheDabbinDave
    @TheDabbinDave 3 роки тому

    Both of Hayleys albums are on Apple Music in their Hi-Res, sadly not Atmos though.

  • @gbone1971
    @gbone1971 3 роки тому

    Buying an external DAC isn't a bad way to go either Especially for those with older analogue systems.
    I bought the Modi 3 dac from Schitt audio for $100. I hooked it up to a Wadia ipod classic dock with the digital output to the Modi 3 and then to the stereo. The results were pretty good once hooked up. The ipod classic can't do 96khz but it can do 24bit/48khz and through my system, music sounds like magic.
    You can do the same thing with an old cd or dvd/bluray player with digital coax outputs.

    • @noturnleftunstoned72
      @noturnleftunstoned72 Рік тому

      same. did this for a while with excellent audio, but I used a Fiio X5ii. For people on a budget, it's an excellent transport. I also use a 2001 Pioneer DVD player as a CDP transport or even directly into this DH-190 as the Pioneer has a great Burr Brown dac chip. It plays EVERY disc.
      there are so many ways to get good HIFI audio on a budget these days.
      Good advice. Cheers.

  • @zhangxina9705
    @zhangxina9705 3 роки тому

    sorry for asking, but what kind of speakers on budget should i get for high res audio?

  • @neccros007
    @neccros007 3 роки тому +1

    What do you use to play your files? PC? Also what DAC do you use?

    • @neccros007
      @neccros007 3 роки тому

      @Douglas Blake DAC makes it a lot cleaner audio.... doesn't even need to be hi res, and any cheap DAC is fine

    • @neccros007
      @neccros007 3 роки тому

      @Douglas Blake I still would pick an external DAC/amp any day of the week. I prefer a box with a physical volume. I dont like software adjusting my audio source... software volumes actually do this. Its why I leave my system at 100% and use a external vol.

    • @neccros007
      @neccros007 3 роки тому

      @Douglas Blake nope... I have direct audio setup to output a level output to my amp and the amp is what controls volume

  • @goodgoodstuff
    @goodgoodstuff 2 роки тому +1

    Hows the new job?

  • @joeydelmarsjr.646
    @joeydelmarsjr.646 2 роки тому

    anyone know if the str-dn1080 remote works on the str-dn1040? at least for the volume and bluetooth feature?